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A new world order behind closed doors

  • 01-09-2020 6:17pm
    #1
    Dionaibh
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    During a concert organised by the UN called 'Pacific Unite: Saving Lives Together' a song was sung which contained the following lyrics:

    “Around the world we’re closing borders, COVID-19 on the rise
    A new world order behind closed doors, the storm will pass, we will survive
    We will rise, we will rise again, our isles will rise again
    We will rise, we will rise again, our world will rise again”

    What does 'a new world order behind closed doors' mean? I was accused of peddling conspiracy theories when I drew people's attention to the disturbing lyrics on another thread. But those are the actual words they sang. Given that the World Economic Forum has for months been talking about The Great Reset to reset the planet, why couldn't the UN be just as open about what they are planning to do? The Secretary-General of the UN called for a new model of global governance a few months ago. And now they're signing about it while people go around in masks bumping elbows to greet one another.


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  • #2
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    During a concert organised by the UN called 'Pacific Unite: Saving Lives Together' a song was sung which contained the following lyrics:

    “Around the world we’re closing borders, COVID-19 on the rise
    A new world order behind closed doors, the storm will pass, we will survive
    We will rise, we will rise again, our isles will rise again
    We will rise, we will rise again, our world will rise again”

    What does 'a new world order behind closed doors' mean? I was accused of peddling conspiracy theories when I drew people's attention to the disturbing lyrics on another thread. But those are the actual words they sang. Given that the World Economic Forum has for months been talking about The Great Reset to reset the planet, why couldn't the UN be just as open about what they are planning to do? The Secretary-General of the UN called for a new model of global governance a few months ago. And now they're signing about it while people go around in masks bumping elbows to greet one another.

    The meaning is pretty clear.
    The world is different because a lot of people have to stay in doors.

    I would bet whoever wrote the song didn't get the meaning conspiracy theorists attribute to the term "new world order".

    What are you suggesting is the real meaning here?


  • #3
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    King Mob wrote: »
    The meaning is pretty clear.
    The world is different because a lot of people have to stay in doors.

    I would bet whoever wrote the song didn't get the meaning conspiracy theorists attribute to the term "new world order".

    What are you suggesting is the real meaning here?

    Take a wild guess...but you must be happy to assume that the instigators of the insidious new world order would be dumb enough to telegraph it in song.

    Glad to see that this nonsense has migrated to its natural home, though. :)


  • #4
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    The meaning is pretty clear.
    The world is different because a lot of people have to stay in doors.

    I would bet whoever wrote the song didn't get the meaning conspiracy theorists attribute to the term "new world order".

    What are you suggesting is the real meaning here?

    When one considers that the Secretary-General of the UN called for a for a new model of global governance a few months ago "a new world order behind closed doors" is rather alarming.


  • #5
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    storker wrote: »
    Take a wild guess...but you must be happy to assume that the instigators of the insidious new world order would be dumb enough to telegraph it in song.

    Glad to see that this nonsense has migrated to its natural home, though. :)

    The World Economic Forum has no qualms about telling the world about their plans to reset the planet. It's all on their website. So why couldn't the UN be just as open about creating what their Secretary-General euphemistically calls 'a new model of global governance'?


  • #6
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    When one considers that the Secretary-General of the UN called for a for a new model of global governance a few months ago "a new world order behind closed doors" is rather alarming.
    Ok. Why though?
    Why do you believe that these lyrics were added to the song?

    Like I said, the explanation seems to be pretty clear and obvious.
    The line means "the world is different now because people stay indoors".

    You seem to believe that there is a different meaning.
    Please elaborate.


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  • #7
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. Why though?
    Why do you believe that these lyrics were added to the song?

    Like I said, the explanation seems to be pretty clear and obvious.
    The line means "the world is different now because people stay indoors".

    You seem to believe that there is a different meaning.
    Please elaborate.

    Why is it alarming?

    I believe it means 'a new model of global governance', what the Secretary-General called for.

    Why "a new world order behind closed doors" and not "a new world behind closed doors" if that's what they meant?


  • #8
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Why is it alarming?

    I believe it means 'a new model of global governance', what the Secretary-General called for.
    Ok? So what has this got to do with a song? Why do you believe this was added to the song?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Why"a new world order behind closed doors" and not "a new world behind closed doors" if that's what they meant?
    Sounded better? I don't know. I haven't heard the song or know anything about it.

    Why do you think they said: "a new world order behind closed doors" in a song at an event?


  • #9
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    During a concert organised by the UN called 'Pacific Unite: Saving Lives Together' a song was sung which contained the following lyrics:

    “Around the world we’re closing borders, COVID-19 on the rise
    A new world order behind closed doors, the storm will pass, we will survive
    We will rise, we will rise again, our isles will rise again
    We will rise, we will rise again, our world will rise again”

    What does 'a new world order behind closed doors' mean? I was accused of peddling conspiracy theories when I drew people's attention to the disturbing lyrics on another thread. But those are the actual words they sang. Given that the World Economic Forum has for months been talking about The Great Reset to reset the planet, why couldn't the UN be just as open about what they are planning to do? The Secretary-General of the UN called for a new model of global governance a few months ago. And now they're signing about it while people go around in masks bumping elbows to greet one another.

    There plenty of secret world order clubs, what discussed in private an open question. Information sometimes shared here by groups in the first list.. Their clubs and you are not in it ;)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations
    Skull and Bones
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission

    The ones the conspirists talk about the most.
    NWO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting


    There probably others the public not even aware of.


  • #10
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    There plenty of secret world order clubs, what discussed in private an open question.
    And they but information about themselves in lyrics of songs sang at random events?

    :confused:


  • #11
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,535 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    King Mob wrote: »
    And they but information about themselves in lyrics of songs sang at random events?

    :confused:

    it is a cunning double bluff.


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  • #12
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok? So what has this got to do with a song? Why do you believe this was added to the song?


    Sounded better? I don't know. I haven't heard the song or know anything about it.

    Why do you think they said: "a new world order behind closed doors" in a song at an event?

    You can read about the concert and the song at the following link: https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/08/1070312

    It's on the UN's own website.

    Sorry, forgot to post the link.

    I believe it's what it says on the tin, that they are using Covid-19 to usher in what the Secretary-General called "a new model of global governance" (doesn't sound as sinister as One World Government). There would be no need for them to sing "a new world order behind closed doors" if what they meant was "a new world behind closed doors". As to why they'd be so open about it, why wouldn't they be? WEF has been boasting for months about their plans to reset the planet. If the UN announced tomorrow that they were going to set up a New World Order 99% of people would still go around in masks all day and be afraid of their own shadow. It's all so easy for them given the hysteria.

    The problem is that when people read 'New World Order' they immediately think that it's 'a crazy conspiracy theory'.


  • #13
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I believe it's what it says on the tin, that they are using Covid-19 to usher in what the Secretary-General called "a new model of global governance" (doesn't sound as sinister as One World Government). There would be no need for them to sing "a new world order behind closed doors" if what they meant was "a new world behind closed doors". As to why they'd be so open about it, why wouldn't they be? WEF has been boasting for months about their plans to reset the planet. If the UN announced tomorrow that they were going to set up a New World Order 99% of people would still go around in masks all day and be afraid of their own shadow. It's all so easy for them given the hysteria.

    The problem is that when people read 'New World Order' they immediately think that it's 'a crazy conspiracy theory'.

    Ok. So why did they put the lyric into the song?


  • #14
    touts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    During a concert organised by the UN called 'Pacific Unite: Saving Lives Together' a song was sung which contained the following lyrics:

    “Around the world we’re closing borders, COVID-19 on the rise
    A new world order behind closed doors, the storm will pass, we will survive
    We will rise, we will rise again, our isles will rise again
    We will rise, we will rise again, our world will rise again”

    What does 'a new world order behind closed doors' mean? I was accused of peddling conspiracy theories when I drew people's attention to the disturbing lyrics on another thread. But those are the actual words they sang. Given that the World Economic Forum has for months been talking about The Great Reset to reset the planet, why couldn't the UN be just as open about what they are planning to do? The Secretary-General of the UN called for a new model of global governance a few months ago. And now they're signing about it while people go around in masks bumping elbows to greet one another.



    Another conspiracy to take over the world foiled by those involved organizing a concert and singing about it in front of millions. Not very good at this secrecy thing are they.


  • #15
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. So why did they put the lyric into the song?

    Because they know people are powerless to stop them, so they can boast about it. As I said, if they meant "a new world behind closed doors" then that's what they would have sung.


  • #16
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    touts wrote: »
    Another conspiracy to take over the world foiled by those involved organizing a concert and singing about it in front of millions. Not very good at this secrecy thing are they.

    But the point is that they don't have to hide it. The Economic Forum have for months been boasting about The Great Reset.

    I have no idea why people aren't alarmed about both The Great Reset and the UN happily singing about "a new world order behind closed doors".


  • #17
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Because they know people are powerless to stop them, so they can boast about it. As I said, if they meant "a new world behind closed doors" then that's what they would have sung.

    Ok. So you are saying that the shadowy masterminds told the singer to ad that one line to their song (and presumably nothing else) and that this is a problem because it exposes their evil plot?

    That seems a bit silly.


  • #18
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. So you are saying that the shadowy masterminds told the singer to ad that one line to their song (and presumably nothing else) and that this is a problem because it exposes their evil plot?

    That seems a bit silly.

    No shadowy masterminds. Just the UN. The world economy is banjaxed, countries and societies are destroyed, people have been reduced to zombies going around in masks, towns and villages are shadows of their former selves. So isn't it the time for a New World Order?

    And what do you think the Great Reset is? A few gentle recommendations for governments? The WEF has said that every aspect of society and human activity has to be reset. It's horrifying.


  • #19
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    No shadowy masterminds. Just the UN.
    Ok. So the UN told the songwriter to add this lyric to their song? Because...?

    Or did the UN write the song themselves?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    The world economy is banjaxed, countries and societies are destroyed, people have been reduced to zombies going around in masks, towns and villages are shadows of their former selves. So isn't it the time for a New World Order?
    This is very silly and very hyperbolic.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    And what do you think the Great Reset is? A few gentle recommendations for governments? The WEF has said that every aspect of society and human activity has to be reset. It's horrifying.
    I seriously doubt you are representing it accurately, given that you seem to think that some random song is exposing the whole thing.
    I don't think you're thinking very rationally about it.

    Conspiracy theorists like yourself have been claiming this stuff for many years now and they've always claimed that this was "just around the corner."
    I don't think a song that has the lyrics "new world order" is going to be the trigger.


  • #20
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. So the UN told the songwriter to add this lyric to their song? Because...?

    Or did the UN write the song themselves?
    This is very silly and very hyperbolic.


    I seriously doubt you are representing it accurately, given that you seem to think that some random song is exposing the whole thing.
    I don't think you're thinking very rationally about it.

    Conspiracy theorists like yourself have been claiming this stuff for many years now and they've always claimed that this was "just around the corner."
    I don't think a song that has the lyrics "new world order" is going to be the trigger.

    I don't know who wrote the song, but it's on the UN's own website. What did the Secretary-General of the UN mean when he called for "a new model of global governance"? Doesn't a "new model of global governance" point to there being a 'global government', or, to use their own words, "a new world order behind closed doors".

    I meant to write "the perfect time for a New World Order" in my previous post. Sorry.

    I don't know what you mean when you say you seriously doubt I am representing it accurately. All I offered was my interpretation of the words "a new world order behind closed doors", which, unsurprisingly, is that they, the UN, want a new world order behind closed doors. I even posted a link to a description of the concert that's on the UN's own website.

    I don't think what I wrote is hyperbole either. The world economy is in bits, towns and villages are shadows of their former selves, and it's going to be worse in a few months when there's no more money. There'll be a tsunami of job losses and business closures.

    What are your thoughts on The Great Reset? Are you worried about it?


  • #21
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,535 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. So the UN told the songwriter to add this lyric to their song? Because...?

    Or did the UN write the song themselves?
    This is very silly and very hyperbolic.


    I seriously doubt you are representing it accurately, given that you seem to think that some random song is exposing the whole thing.
    I don't think you're thinking very rationally about it.

    Conspiracy theorists like yourself have been claiming this stuff for many years now and they've always claimed that this was "just around the corner."
    I don't think a song that has the lyrics "new world order" is going to be the trigger.

    It could be the modern equivalent of "Jean has a long mustache" or "the long sobs of the violins of autumn" or "wound my heart with a monotonous languor"


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  • #22
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I don't know who wrote the song, but it's on the UN's own website.
    So again, why did it contain that lyric according to you. You started the thread about it, so you must have some idea.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I don't know what you mean when you say you seriously doubt I am representing it accurately.
    I think you've read some stuff on the internet and watched some stuff on youtube, then reached the conclusion of some big conspiracy theory.
    What you're claiming isn't very unique.
    It's just a but unusual to claim that they'd announce this via some random song at one of their events.
    It's kind of a silly thing to suggest to be honest, and if you're suggesting something like that, you're not being very rational.

    Honestly, if you want people to take your theory more seriously, maybe don't open with that claim.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I don't think what I wrote is hyperbole either. The world economy is in bits, towns and villages are shadows of their former selves, and it's going to be worse in a few months when there's no more money. There'll be a tsunami of job losses and business closures.
    So therefore the UN is going to impose a one world government?
    Ok. When will this be?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    What are your thoughts on The Great Reset? Are you worried about it?
    Haven't heard about it before, but it has the name of something that conspiracy theorists would twist and misrepresent to appear more sinister than it is.


  • #23
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    So again, why did it contain that lyric according to you. You started the thread about it, so you must have some idea.


    I think you've read some stuff on the internet and watched some stuff on youtube, then reached the conclusion of some big conspiracy theory.
    What you're claiming isn't very unique.
    It's just a but unusual to claim that they'd announce this via some random song at one of their events.
    It's kind of a silly thing to suggest to be honest, and if you're suggesting something like that, you're not being very rational.

    Honestly, if you want people to take your theory more seriously, maybe don't open with that claim.


    So therefore the UN is going to impose a one world government?
    Ok. When will this be?


    Haven't heard about it before, but it has the name of something that conspiracy theorists would twist and misrepresent to appear more sinister than it is.

    I've already answered why I think the song contained the words "a new world order behind closed doors". I understand that to mean "a new world order behind closed doors".

    Doesn't the Secretary-General of the UN calling for a new model of global governance a few months ago make it all the more likely that's that "a new world order behind closed doors" means global governance?

    It's strange that this is being discussed in the Conspiracy Theories forum when neither the Great Reset nor the Secretary-General of the UN calling for a "new model of global governance is a conspiracy theory. But I guess it's because 'New World Order' is considered to be a conspiracy theory.

    An article on The Great Reset on WEF's own website: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/08/building-blocks-of-the-great-reset/

    No YouTube videos. The song is on the UN's own website and The Great Reset is on WEF's own website.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/COVID-19-Great-Reset-Klaus-Schwab/dp/2940631123/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2D573XZMJI304&dchild=1&keywords=the+great+reset&qid=1599051529&s=books&sprefix=the+great+reset%2Caps%2C170&sr=1-1

    The head of WEF, Klaus Schwab, even wrote a book on The Great Reset.

    A few quotes from the book:

    "The containment of the coronavirus pandemic will necessitate a global surveillance network" (p.33)

    "China, Hong Kong SAR and South Korea implemented coercive and intrusive measures of digital tracing. They took the decision to track individuals without their consent, through their mobile and credit card data, and even employed video surveillance" (p.160)

    "No voluntary contact-tracing app will work if people are unwilling to provide their own personal data to the governmental agency that monitors the system" (p.164)

    the corporate move will be towards greater surveillance; for better or for worse, companies will be watching and sometimes recording what their workforce does." (p.165)

    "Then, when the crisis is over, some may realize that their country has suddenly be transformed into a place where they no longer wish to live." (p.167)

    If that doesn't sound horrifying to you, then I don't know what to say.


  • #24
    sydthebeat
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    They made Steve guttenberg a star


  • #25
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I've already answered why I think the song contained the words "a new world order behind closed doors". I understand that to mean "a new world order behind closed doors".
    Yes. But that doesn't really explain why the lyrics are in the song.

    Why do you think they were put there?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    It's strange that this is being discussed in the Conspiracy Theories forum when neither the Great Reset nor the Secretary-General of the UN calling for a "new model of global governance is a conspiracy theory. But I guess it's because 'New World Order' is considered to be a conspiracy theory.
    Yes. Your rather strange interpretation of things and your claim that a song lyric exposes all of this is a conspiracy theory.

    Why would it be in any other forum?


  • #26
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes. But that doesn't really explain why the lyrics are in the song.

    Why do you think they were put there?


    Yes. Your rather strange interpretation of things and your claim that a song lyric exposes all of this is a conspiracy theory.

    Why would it be in any other forum?

    I think they were put there because they want people to know what they're going to do. What do you understand by "a new model of global governance"? That's what the Secretary-General called for.

    What are your thoughts on those quotes from the book on The Great Reset?

    Another few for you:

    "Dystopian scenarios are not a fatality."(p.171)

    "The possibilities for change and the resulting new order are now unlimited and only bound to our imagination" and "We should take advantage of this unprecedented opportunity to reimagine our world" (p.19)

    " [Instead of] driving to a distant family gathering for the weekend" using "the WhatsApp family group" which "is not as fun but, again, safer, cheaper and greener" (p.155)

    "This won't happen, because it can't happen." (p.173) (Author talking about industry leaders which might want to go back to the old way of making business.)
    "It is likely that the markets or the consumers, or both, will punish those companies that performed poorly on social issues (p.188)

    "Simple pleasures like smelling a melon or squeezing a fruit will be frowned upon and may even become a thing of the past." (p.198)

    What Karl Schwab is advocating is complete control over aspect of human life and society. Is that a world you want to live in? Do you see now why so many people are suspicious about all of this?


  • #27
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I think they were put there because they want people to know what they're going to do.
    Ok. So why would they do that is some random song?
    Why only in that one line?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    What are your thoughts on those quotes from the book on The Great Reset?
    Like I said. Conspiracy theorists like yourself have a habit of misrepresenting and twisting things to make them sound more sinister than they are.
    And I don't think you're applying a whole bunch of rational thought here given your claims about this song thing.


  • #28
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. So why would they do that is some random song?
    Why only in that one line?

    Like I said. Conspiracy theorists like yourself have a habit of misrepresenting and twisting things to make them sound more sinister than they are.
    And I don't think you're applying a whole bunch of rational thought here given your claims about this song thing.

    I don't think there's anything I can say that will persuade you. I quoted from 'The Great Reset' by Klaus Schwab. I didn't twist or misrepresent anything. It's from the horse's mouth. It's a horrifying dystopia that he's pushing. And this isn't some random guy on the street saying it. This is the head of a powerful global organisation.

    But you don't mention that that song came a couple of months after the Secretary-General of the UN calling for a 'new model of global governance'. It's not important that it's in a song. It's the words that matter. You still haven't told me what your understanding of the Secretary-General's call for 'a new model of global governance' is.


  • #29
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I quoted from 'The Great Reset' by Klaus Schwab. I didn't twist or misrepresent anything.
    I'm sure that's what you believe.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But you don't mention that that song came a couple of months after the Secretary-General of the UN calling for a 'new model of global governance'. It's not important that it's in a song.
    But why put it in a song? It doesn't make any sense to and you've kinda shot your credibility in the foot by bringing it up.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    It's the words that matter. You still haven't told me what your understanding of the Secretary-General's call for 'a new model of global governance' is.
    I don't know. I haven't looked into the real meaning and as I said, I don't buy the interpretation of a conspiracy theorist who's hinging a lot of it on the lyrics of a song.


  • #30
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    I'm sure that's what you believe.


    But why put it in a song? It doesn't make any sense to and you've kinda shot your credibility in the foot by bringing it up.


    I don't know. I haven't looked into the real meaning and as I said, I don't buy the interpretation of a conspiracy theorist who's hinging a lot of it on the lyrics of a song.

    How can simply quoting from the book be twisting what the author wrote? All I did was quote from the book. What is your opinion of the quotes I posted from the book? Horrifying?

    Why am I a conspiracy theorist for saying that 'a new model of global governance' and 'a new world order behind closed doors' means exactly that? You keep bringing up the 'random song'. Forget about the song. It's the words 'a new world order behind closed doors' in the song I'm referring to.


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  • #31
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    How can simply quoting from the book be twisting what the author wrote? All I did was quote from the book. What is your opinion of the quotes I posted from the book? Horrifying?

    Why am I a conspiracy theorist for saying that 'a new model of global governance' and 'a new world order behind closed doors' means exactly that? You keep bringing up the 'random song'. Forget about the song. It's the words 'a new world order behind closed doors' in the song I'm referring to.

    King Mob would have you believe that a modern day song writer wouldnt know the meaning NWO it s only littered throughout pop culture/music they even market their stuff on it
    And the song is "random" even though they closed out the event with it usually this kind of closing has a message
    So i think the song was written for the event at the very least


  • #32
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    How can simply quoting from the book be twisting what the author wrote? All I did was quote from the book. What is your opinion of the quotes I posted from the book? Horrifying?
    Those are good examples of how to do it.
    Taking quotes out of context and implying sinister meaning to them.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Why am I a conspiracy theorist for saying that 'a new model of global governance' and 'a new world order behind closed doors' means exactly that?
    Again, you are suggesting that there's a sinister global plot to install a one world government. And that this plot is exposed by a line in a song.

    Sorry to say, but that is conspiracy theory stuff.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    You keep bringing up the 'random song'. Forget about the song. It's the words 'a new world order behind closed doors' in the song I'm referring to.
    But your op was about the song. The topic of the thread is this song. And you still haven't actually addressed the very simple question.

    Why did the UN have this lyric put into a song?


  • #33
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    King Mob would have you believe that a modern day song writer wouldnt know the meaning NWO it s only littered throughout pop culture/music they even market their stuff on it
    But the terms "NWO" and new world order only really have signifigance to you conspiracy theorists and people familiar with conspiracy theorists.

    For most people it doesn't actually carry that connotation.

    This is especially so if the song writer isn't from an English speaking or western country.

    It's very possible that someone isn't familiar with the conspiracy theory definition of the term.

    Not sure what you find that notion more ridiculous than the notion suggested by the op.
    enno99 wrote: »
    And the song is "random" even though they closed out the event with it usually this kind of closing has a message
    So i think the song was written for the event at the very least
    Ok. So the UN told the writer to put that one line in the song cause they wanted a catchy song for the end of their event?
    Why?


  • #34
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    enno99 wrote: »
    King Mob would have you believe that a modern day song writer wouldnt know the meaning NWO it s only littered throughout pop culture/music they even market their stuff on it
    And the song is "random" even though they closed out the event with it usually this kind of closing has a message
    So i think the song was written for the event at the very least

    Indeed. We have the UN singing about "a new world order behind closed doors" and the head of WEF outlining his vision for a nightmarish and dystopian future in a book entitled 'The Great Reset', and they're butting heads on other threads and fora about Covid cases.

    The song is most definitely not random.


  • #35
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    But the terms "NWO" and new world order only really have signifigance to you conspiracy theorists and people familiar with conspiracy theorists.

    For most people it doesn't actually carry that connotation.

    This is especially so if the song writer isn't from an English speaking or western country.

    It's very possible that someone isn't familiar with the conspiracy theory definition of the term.

    Not sure what you find that notion more ridiculous than the notion suggested by the op.

    Ok. So the UN told the writer to put that one line in the song cause they wanted a catchy song for the end of their event?
    Why?

    You read the lyrics right ?


  • #36
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But the terms "NWO" and new world order only really have signifigance to you conspiracy theorists and people familiar with conspiracy theorists.

    For most people it doesn't actually carry that connotation.

    This is especially so if the song writer isn't from an English speaking or western country.

    It's very possible that someone isn't familiar with the conspiracy theory definition of the term.

    Not sure what you find that notion more ridiculous than the notion suggested by the op.

    Ok. So the UN told the writer to put that one line in the song cause they wanted a catchy song for the end of their event?
    Why?

    I wonder what most people's interpretation of "a new world order behind closed doors" and "a new model of global governance" would be.

    The UN provided them with the song they sang. Are you seriously saying that the UN doesn't know what it's saying when it says "a new world order behind closed doors"?

    And I don't know how context could make what Schwab wrote in that book any less sinister or horrific.

    And I haven't even mentioned that all of what is happening now was "predicted" in Lockstep in a report from the Rockefeller Foundation and simulated during Event 201, during which a simulation of a coronavirus pandemic was run a couple of months prior to a coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan. WEF and the Gates' Foundation co-sponsored the simulation. But I suppose I'm a conspiracy theorist for pointing all of this out.


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  • #37
    King Mob
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    enno99 wrote: »
    You read the lyrics right ?
    Nope.

    Again I think you're attempting to dishonestly misrepresent me and what my argument.

    I am not saying that the person who wrote the song couldn't speak English.
    I'm saying that someone who didn't grow up in an English speaking country might not necessarily have heard the obscure and niche usage of "New World Order" in the way you guys take it to mean.

    But no, you're right. It's far far more likely the shadowy plotters behind the New World Order plot told this singer to sing this line for no real reason.

    That makes far more sense. :rolleyes:


  • #38
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    https://www.lyrics.com/lyrics/new%20world%20order

    1205 hits for the phrase "new world order" in song lyrics, and a concert of South Pacific islands is the one you focus on?

    "The new world order can't touch me
    They can't **** with me
    Cuz I'm free"


  • #39
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    The UN provided them with the song they sang.
    Ok. That's a weird thing for them to do.
    Why did they do that?
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But I suppose I'm a conspiracy theorist for pointing all of this out.
    Yup. A bit.


  • #40
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    hmmm wrote: »
    https://www.lyrics.com/lyrics/new%20world%20order

    1205 hits for the phrase "new world order" in song lyrics, and a concert of South Pacific islands is the one you focus on?

    "The new world order can't touch me
    They can't **** with me
    Cuz I'm free"

    How many of those songs were produced by the UN a couple of months after its Secretary-General called for a "new model of global governance"?


  • #41
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    enno99 wrote: »
    You read the lyrics right ?

    How many of the 1% were cannibalised on the back of "Eat the Rich"?


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  • #42
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. That's a weird thing for them to do.
    Why did they do that?


    Yup. A bit.

    The concert was organised by the UN so I assume they chose what songs would be sung during the concert.

    Are you going to dismiss everything I say with "I haven't looked into it" or "I don't know anything about that"? Because, if you are, then there's no real point in me posting links to sites, or mentioning events that took place. Event 201, for example, was an actual simulation of a coronavirus pandemic two months prior to the outbreak in Wuhan. Lockstep is available online to read.


  • #43
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    The concert was organised by the UN so I assume they chose what songs would be sung during the concert.
    Ok. So why did they have them sing that line?
    What was the benefit for them to do so?
    Why did you bring it up initially?


  • #44
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    storker wrote: »
    How many of the 1% were cannibalised on the back of "Eat the Rich"?

    We're talking about a global and powerful organisation singing about "a new world order behind closed doors".

    Do you not find it worrying that the Secretary-General of the UN calls for "a new model of global governance" and then a couple of months later the UN is singing about "a new world order behind closed doors"?


  • #45
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. So why did they have them sing that line?
    What was the benefit for them to do so?
    Why did you bring it up initially?

    I can't keep answering the same question. I think that the reason they had them sing that line was to announce to the world that they are planning a new world order behind closed doors. There's no hidden meaning, in my opinion.


  • #46
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I can't keep answering the same question. I think that the reason they had them sing that line was to announce to the world that they are planning a new world order behind closed doors. There's no hidden meaning, in my opinion.
    But you haven't answered it once.

    Why would they announce this by a silly song?Why would they announce they are secretly plotting a new world order?

    What other parts of the song are part of their announcement? Is it just that one line?


  • #47
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But you haven't answered it once.

    Why would they announce this by a silly song?Why would they announce they are secretly plotting a new world order?

    What other parts of the song are part of their announcement? Is it just that one line?

    To rub our nose in it. To show that they think so little of us to announce it in a song. But when you have people losing their mind over cases then you can see why they're laughing at us.

    Just that line.

    But they're not really secretly plotting it. The Great Reset is basically a radical programme for global control. And they all work together. Indeed the Secretary-General of the UN has praised The Great Reset. And WEF has been completely open about The Great Reset.


  • #48
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I can't keep answering the same question. I think that the reason they had them sing that line was to announce to the world that they are planning a new world order behind closed doors. There's no hidden meaning, in my opinion.

    First venture into CT here be prepared


  • #49
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    To rub our nose in it. To show that they think so little of us to announce it in a song. But when you have people losing their mind over cases then you can see why they're laughing at us.

    Just that line.
    Ok. That's a very silly reason and a very bizarre thing to believe is true.


  • #50
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. That's a very silly reason and a very bizarre thing to believe is true.

    It might be bizarre, but the world has become pretty bizarre in the past few months.

    As I said in a previous post, if they meant "a new world behind closed doors" that's what they would have said.

    So you wrote that you think "a new world order behind closed doors" means "a new world behind closed doors". And what do you think The Great Reset is?


  • #51
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,345 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    It might be bizarre, but the world has become pretty bizarre in the past few months.
    It's very bizarre and silly and illustrative of why your beliefs are rightly dismissed as conspiracy theory.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    And what do you think The Great Reset is?
    I already said I don't know cause I'm not familiar with the term or the person and work you're referring to.
    I also explained that I don't believe that you are presenting them fairly, accurately and honestly.


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