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Interdepartmental HEO Competition 2019

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭WAW


    If Garda HR can get away it they probably would as the tend to make up their own rules.

    I think someone mentioned Mayo earlier where the Divisional model is being trialled. Could be wrong but I'm sure I read that they had put HEO/s in there who took over Div EO role or at least elements of it, like finance. Maybe it was Cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Crunchymomma


    I wonder will the familiarisation material come through soon as indicitive dates for stage one was end of next week I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 derryleigh1


    Not sure if the following is helpful to anyone, but if the DPM pilot is successful, it looks there's going to be many more EO and HEO vacancies in Garda Stations over theh next few years.

    4 divisions in the country are pilots for the new DPM which officially begins on 1 April for one year, even though its been gradually introduced over the past 2 years. There's four sections contained in the DPR, Governance, Administration, Crime and Community Engagement. Administration section is completely made up of garda staff.

    Due to the DPM Cork city has seen a massive increase in COs and EOs. Its also has new HR HEO, a Finance HEO and a Governance HEO, plus an AP.

    HEOs are not taking over the divisional EO role, however, parts of the Divisional EO's work, eg leave, finance, divisional Garda Statf, etc was transferred to either HR or Finance section.

    Apparently, in Cork City, when the Divisional Sergeant is promoted (shortly) the role will be taken up by the Divisional EO, supported by the Divisional CO. No sign of a Divisional HEO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭LordBasil


    Pre-Test info issued. Tests issue by 4th April, to be completed 1pm 9th April.

    3 Tests;
    Verbal
    Numerical
    Management Scenarios


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭Kittykat6


    I dont like the format of the tests ��


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    I haven't seen them yet.
    Are they different to the last 2 competitions?


  • Registered Users Posts: 674 ✭✭✭carnie


    Addle wrote: »
    I haven't seen them yet.
    Are they different to the last 2 competitions?


    No, they are using Cut-e again, which were the providers for the last couple of HEO comps.

    They're handy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭boccers


    Has anyone tried the sample tests yet? The first two were fine but the management scenario one opened a PDF and clicking the answer didn't workand there was no option to go any further. This happen anyone else?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭LouD2016


    boccers wrote: »
    Has anyone tried the sample tests yet? The first two were fine but the management scenario one opened a PDF and clicking the answer didn't workand there was no option to go any further. This happen anyone else?

    Yea I think it's literally just there to show you what it will look like.
    Not an actual practice test


  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Sinus pain


    Arghhhhh hate the tests!!! I knew they were coming- but I still hate them!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭cosmic


    So the Verbal and Numerical practice tests tell you how many you got correct or incorrect but they won't tell you which ones are which. Utterly pointless! Surely this can't just be me, right?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    cosmic wrote: »
    So the Verbal and Numerical practice tests tell you how many you got correct or incorrect but they won't tell you which ones are which. Utterly pointless! Surely this can't just be me, right?!

    yep thats correct. its stupid really. you got x right but we wont tell you which ones....same as the last heo comp.. i tried them today and couldnt believe how rustly i had got since the last time even though they are more or less the same genre of test provide.


  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭De Danann


    I hope the tests issue today. I have the day off work and nobody is at home so it'd be the perfect time to do them.

    It's going to be rather difficult if they don't come out until Thursday and then trying to find a quiet moment at home over the weekend!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Crunchymomma


    De Danann wrote: »
    I hope the tests issue today. I have the day off work and nobody is at home so it'd be the perfect time to do them.

    It's going to be rather difficult if they don't come out until Thursday and then trying to find a quiet moment at home over the weekend!

    I highly doubt they will issue before Thursday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭speedygirl


    Has anyone got any good aptitude tests links similar to familirisation material they coukd share . Im on maternity & totally out of the loop so need all help i can get ! 🀥


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Crunchymomma


    speedygirl wrote: »
    Has anyone got any good aptitude tests links similar to familirisation material they coukd share . Im on maternity & totally out of the loop so need all help i can get ! ��

    I think there is some cut e style ones on jobtestprep.co.um


  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭speedygirl


    I think there is some cut e style ones on jobtestprep.co.um

    has anyone purchased ?or it it worth it ? The E Cut one does not seem to have many numerical tests and loads of other tests we would not use... thoughts ???


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 MISECT


    Hi guys in relation ti policy it is not compulsory to put something in for this if you have no experience. My colleague showed me her HEO form where the policy section was left blank it did not hinder her in the slightest she is now HEO. Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Crunchymomma


    speedygirl wrote: »
    has anyone purchased ?or it it worth it ? The E Cut one does not seem to have many numerical tests and loads of other tests we would not use... thoughts ???

    I haven't used them myself as I never actually get around to practising bedore hand haha they were just previously recommended to me


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  • Registered Users Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Idjit


    Got the test link there.
    It's a bit weird that the test window opens tomorrow but we have the link now?
    I thought in the past once you had the link you could start them immediately.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Banananana


    Hi all,
    For anyone who's applied for HEO previously and completed the online assessments before: can anyone advise if the questions in the real test are much more difficult than the samples provided? Obviously the timing is much tighter in the real test but are the actual questions more complicated?

    Thanks in advance if anyone can answer this


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Banananana wrote: »
    Hi all,
    For anyone who's applied for HEO previously and completed the online assessments before: can anyone advise if the questions in the real test are much more difficult than the samples provided? Obviously the timing is much tighter in the real test but are the actual questions more complicated?

    Thanks in advance if anyone can answer this

    Infinitely harder.
    The examples are to give you an idea of how the questions are formatted- not a gauge of their difficulty.
    On the brightside- we're all in the same boat- if you find them hard- the rest of us probably do too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Banananana


    Infinitely harder.
    The examples are to give you an idea of how the questions are formatted- not a gauge of their difficulty.
    On the brightside- we're all in the same boat- if you find them hard- the rest of us probably do too.

    Thanks! I suspected as much. Trying not to overthink things!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    MISECT wrote: »
    Hi guys in relation ti policy it is not compulsory to put something in for this if you have no experience. My colleague showed me her HEO form where the policy section was left blank it did not hinder her in the slightest she is now HEO. Hope this helps.

    Same for me last time round. Don't worry and good luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 GKE


    Just completed the tests. The time goes so so fast. Only got about half of the verbal finished and 3/4 of the numerical.

    Questions are fine though - not too tough.

    Best of Luck Everyone.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 JamPack


    God these practice tests are woeful!! They give barely any feedback and seem to be really ambiguous


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭LordBasil


    Completed the tests.

    The Management Scenarios were fine but my God the Verbal and Numerical were awful. You are not entirely sure which questions relate to which of the tabs. Got about 2/3 of each test completed before the time ran out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Forthebuzz


    Got tests done today while the kids were at school. The time was a real killer! Didn't get the last two in either verbal or numerical done but all in all it definitely could have been worse

    Good luck everyone!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Furby2020


    Help! I completed the Management Scenarios and when I went to hit proceed my computer crashed! I logged back in but the test is gone but not submitted! I have emailed the Helpdesk but waiting on a reply. I am panicking - has this ever happened anybody before? Can I redo them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭TheRoyce


    Do we have any indication of timetable for results?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Forthebuzz


    TheRoyce wrote: »
    Do we have any indication of timetable for results?

    The initial info booklet said stage two shortlisting would be late April /early May so before then. I think it normally takes about two weeks for them to issue results of these types of test


  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭speedygirl


    I haven't used them myself as I never actually get around to practising bedore hand haha they were just previously recommended to me

    Thats exactly the boat im in. With 3 kids under 3.5 il be kucky get time to do the test never mind pratice...


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 JamPack


    Just completed the test there, by Jaysus are they quick! You really don't feel the time going.

    Best advice I can give is to work quick but try ignore the clock. I probably wasted a minute near the end looking between the clock and questions out of panic.

    And remember that the tests are more to do with accuracy than speed, it even tells you that most people wont answer everything.

    Best of luck everyone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,424 ✭✭✭Aisling(",)


    I had done a bit of practicing but found those verbal particularly challenging.

    Now to forget about it till the results come out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Pepah82


    Hi all,

    I've been using this site to practice Numerical Reasoning.

    Its free to use, only down side is that its structured differently to the real thing.

    www . numericalreasoningtest . org/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭cosmic


    Anyone who has taken them already - do they give you the option to go back and review a question, or when you move on to the next one is that it? In that time limit I sincerely doubt I'd have the time to go back but I'd like to know for peace of mind :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 384 ✭✭osullic


    cosmic wrote: »
    Anyone who has taken them already - do they give you the option to go back and review a question, or when you move on to the next one is that it? In that time limit I sincerely doubt I'd have the time to go back but I'd like to know for peace of mind :)

    You can move forward and back or jump to any number you want using the grid option. Good luck!


  • Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭speedygirl


    For anyone who has being through the process before is there any advice on approaching the manager scenarios ? I know its your own approach &no right or wrong but any asvice greatly appreciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Go with your gut.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Mazuma


    cosmic wrote: »
    Anyone who has taken them already - do they give you the option to go back and review a question, or when you move on to the next one is that it? In that time limit I sincerely doubt I'd have the time to go back but I'd like to know for peace of mind :)

    You don’t have time to go back and review for numerical & verbal tbh


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  • Registered Users Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Idjit


    Just finished them.
    Verbal was fine. Numerical was tricky I found, just trying to understand what was being asked used up a lot of the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    I found numerical difficult to interpret too.
    A lot of the questions referred to Evergreen Ltd.

    Are we to assume all the tabs are information from Evergreen Ltd.

    Some tabs reference other Organisations but most tabs income / costs / employee etc reference no particular organisation.

    I’m guessing with majority of questions re Evergreen that this is there accounts / data?

    Did I miss something obvious?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Feck we're back on damn Evergreen again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭Samjd


    Feck we're back on damn Evergreen again?

    Has it been used in another competition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭lucat


    BlondeBomb wrote: »
    I found numerical difficult to interpret too.
    A lot of the questions referred to Evergreen Ltd.

    Are we to assume all the tabs are information from Evergreen Ltd.

    Some tabs reference other Organisations but most tabs income / costs / employee etc reference no particular organisation.

    I’m guessing with majority of questions re Evergreen that this is there accounts / data?

    Did I miss something obvious?

    I came on here today to see if anyone else had the same issue. I'm really annoyed about it tbh, and I think I might complain to Publicjobs because I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out if the charts were for Evergreen or not. A simple heading on each chart would have avoided the issue. I think it was very poorly done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭AngelaG


    Did anyone manage to answer majority of questions ? Do we have any idea of what is required to pass based on previous comps ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    lucat wrote: »
    BlondeBomb wrote: »
    I found numerical difficult to interpret too.
    A lot of the questions referred to Evergreen Ltd.

    Are we to assume all the tabs are information from Evergreen Ltd.

    Some tabs reference other Organisations but most tabs income / costs / employee etc reference no particular organisation.

    I’m guessing with majority of questions re Evergreen that this is there accounts / data?

    Did I miss something obvious?

    I came on here today to see if anyone else had the same issue. I'm really annoyed about it tbh, and I think I might complain to Publicjobs because I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out if the charts were for Evergreen or not. A simple heading on each chart would have avoided the issue. I think it was very poorly done.

    I’m guessing it was Evergreen, otherwise I’d have had a lot of cannot say.

    I agree that it should have been clearer who each tab referred to especially when one tab in particular referred to a number of organisations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Forthebuzz


    AngelaG wrote: »
    Did anyone manage to answer majority of questions ? Do we have any idea of what is required to pass based on previous comps ?

    I got all bar the last three done on each but not sure if that's a good thing!!

    I think the pass marks are usually around 50%.


  • Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭AngelaG


    Forthebuzz wrote: »
    I got all bar the last three done on each but not sure if that's a good thing!!

    I think the pass marks are usually around 50%.[/quot

    I answered 40 for verbal and 27 for numerical . Safe to say that's me out ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    But who answered them correctly and selected the most correct tabs?


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