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How important is the economy

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  • 20-02-2018 7:54pm
    #1
    Ajsoprano
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    I’m not looking for a political debate. More a personal inside where your feelings are debate.

    Say you had a government that did all sorts of bad things. Reprehensible some of them. All found out and reported in the media.

    But an here’s the kicker they spent loads of money on advertising telling you the economy was great. You werent sure if it was or not but you thought it probably was.

    Would you vote them back in because you were comfortable and didn’t want change and had a job and no time to be following every controversy or would you chance it on a different party.

    Disclaimer this is not a political discussion thread. This is one of them questions that aren’t rhetorical but imaginary. It’s a thread about how you would react to it.

    You have 4 options
    1 the government in power
    2 the old government who were a bit dodgey and corrupt but a bit nicer to the hobos and vagrants and salt of the earth types.
    3 someone who has never been in charge and had criminals from wartime as its members but would probably have the same policies as the other two once they were in charge but claimed they wouldn’t.
    4 a load of untested lads with making a beautiful world for all as there main goal but didn’t really say how they’d pay for it.

    I can’t add a pole cause I’m not good at maths and I’ve nothing to add the pole to but if somebody can that’s be fair enough.


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    Ipso
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    No need for a pole, it's only February. May is a bit away.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Imaginary? You gave the scenarios for the political options we currently have.

    As for advertising that the economy is in good shape; I think we'd know for ourselves what state the economy is in.

    Is the economy important? Ultimately, it's all that matters. No decent economy means no money for anything else.


    Keeping this out of a political debate and with such imaginary scenarios is neigh on impossible.


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Ipso wrote: »
    No need for a pole, it's only February. May is a bit away.

    This election will be held in imagination land. So it can be anytime of the year.


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Yahya Plump Limb wrote: »
    Imaginary? You gave the scenarios for the political options we currently have.

    As for advertising that the economy is in good shape; I think we'd know for ourselves what state the economy is in.

    Is the economy important? Ultimately, it's all that matters. No decent economy means no money for anything else.


    Keeping this out of a political debate and with such imaginary scenarios is neigh on impossible.

    Now let’s not go comparing to the real world. We only have my options.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    Now let’s not go comparing to the real world. We only have my options.

    Then I abstain from voting on through the looking glass options.


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Yahya Plump Limb wrote: »
    Then I abstain from voting on through the looking glass options.

    That’s your right. In imagination land your right to vote is as important as your right not to vote.


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    Ajsoprano
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    Ipso wrote: »
    No need for a pole, it's only February. May is a bit away.

    This has nothing to do with Theresa May.


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    Are Am Eye
    Registered Users Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    On a scale of 1 to 23 I would it is about 17.


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Are Am Eye wrote: »
    On a scale of 1 to 23 I would it is about 17.

    Option 4 to 23 has now been reclassified as option 4.


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    bear1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I've read the op twice and still don't have a clue what this is about.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Vote rigging. Nice one.


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Yahya Plump Limb wrote: »
    Vote rigging. Nice one.

    They formed a coalition.


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    One eyed Jack
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    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    Now let’s not go comparing to the real world. We only have my options.


    But you've made it blatantly obvious from the opening post that your feelings regarding the type of government you want to run your imaginary economy are based on the current political parties in Ireland! :pac:

    A question about peoples political views on the economy and what type of government they would want, but without the politics? Sure you don't need anyone else's opinions when you can just imagine the outcomes for yourself :confused:


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    bear1 wrote: »
    I've read the op twice and still don't have a clue what this is about.

    It’s a fairly simple fun thread where you have 4 choices and can choose one if you want.


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    But you've made it blatantly obvious from the opening post that your feelings regarding the type of government you want to run your imaginary economy are based on the current political parties in Ireland! :pac:

    A question about peoples political views on the economy and what type of government they would want, but without the politics? Sure you don't need anyone else's opinions when you can just imagine the outcomes for yourself :confused:

    Jaysis
    Can we just not have a fun thread. It’s not real.
    You only know the things I said about the options.
    I’m not going to make one party leader gay and one party leader a woman to make it easier to chose.


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    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    So this thread is not about politics but it is about politics.

    Oh and love how you not so subtly made it clear who each of the four parties are.


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    bear1
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    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    It’s a fairly simple fun thread where you have 4 choices and can choose one if you want.

    It's not that simple if you are saying it's not a political thread but then ask what we'd chose government wise?
    You can't have an economy without a functioning government and any government needs politics so how do you do all that without descending into a political debate?
    A more interesting idea would be a debate on how the country would look now say 1) the housing bubble of the 00s hadn't happened or 2) if it did happen and the government decided to let the banks fail.


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    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,797 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The whole proposition is moot.

    Vote in the current mob, vote in the other mob or vote in a rainbow of different mobs and you get the same thing anyway.

    The Civil Service run the Country, not the Government. The Government may say its their policies, but really its just bashed into whatever shape the Civil Service want.

    Its the same with Brexit in the UK, the Civil Service dont want it to happen, so it won't. It may be twisted and turned and upset caused, but eventually the British people will be instructed on whats best for them and accept it.

    So vote for who you like, t'won't matter.


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Owryan wrote: »
    So this thread is not about politics but it is about politics.

    Oh and love how you not so subtly made it clear who each of the four parties are.

    Are you being sarcastic when you say you love it?

    If I came on here saying snog marry avoid and named a b list celeb a footballer and the local historian would you find something it was about Im not Neil Young there is no hidden meaning.


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    AndyBoBandy
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    How important is the economy??

    It’s more important than touching yourself.

    But not as important as cheesecake.


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    #22
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    Are you being sarcastic when you say you love it?

    If I came on here saying snog marry avoid and named a b list celeb a footballer and the local historian would you find something it was about Im not Neil Young there is no hidden meaning.

    Rather than give a not so vague description of each party why not just name them? It's fairly clear who you meant tbh.


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    #23
    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    bear1 wrote: »
    It's not that simple if you are saying it's not a political thread but then ask what we'd chose government wise?
    You can't have an economy without a functioning government and any government needs politics so how do you do all that without descending into a political debate?
    A more interesting idea would be a debate on how the country would look now say 1) the housing bubble of the 00s hadn't happened or 2) if it did happen and the government decided to let the banks fail.

    Ah they’ve been done to death and there’s a politics forum for that.


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    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,053 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Ipso wrote: »
    No need for a pole, it's only February. May is a bit away.


    Jaysus. You couldn't be more different than your mother

    ............There was no way she could have waited from Feb to May for some pole


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Owryan wrote: »
    Rather than give a not so vague description of each party why not just name them? It's fairly clear who you meant tbh.

    Again I’m not neill young.


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    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    And if it was really an imaginary scenario you could have made up some parties.

    Instead you gave us the 4 parties that will contest the next real election but want people to pretend otherwise.


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    #27
    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Owryan wrote: »
    And if it was really an imaginary scenario you could have made up some parties.

    Instead you gave us the 4 parties that will contest the next real election but want people to pretend otherwise.

    I now know how John Lennon felt when he had a fan turn up at his house claiming all his songs were about him.


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    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    But you've made it blatantly obvious from the opening post that your feelings regarding the type of government you want to run your imaginary economy are based on the current political parties in Ireland! :pac:

    A question about peoples political views on the economy and what type of government they would want, but without the politics? Sure you don't need anyone else's opinions when you can just imagine the outcomes for yourself :confused:

    They are totally made up parties, they have absolutely no resemblance to any other political parties whatsoever......the op says so 🙄🙄


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    #29
    diomed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    The opening post sounds like the history of Fianna Fail.
    And yes, we did vote them in again.


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    Ajsoprano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Lads look.
    It’s not important if you go through the history books or the world atlas and find such an election that resembled this one.

    It’s a good connundrum what’s it matter if you think it resembles something from somewhere.


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    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    I now know how John Lennon felt when he had a fan turn up at his house claiming all his songs were about him.

    You're not "Neill Young" but you are John Lennon pmsl


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