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How important is the economy

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Owryan wrote: »
    You're not "Neill Young" but you are John Lennon pmsl

    I just want people to imagine all the parties, options one to four.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    Ah they’ve been done to death and there’s a politics forum for that.

    Exactly, so my question is how do you decide which government to vote in without using politics?
    The entire premise makes no sense.
    Regardless if you think it's fun or not you are essentially asking would we want ff or fg back in government.
    If it's the choice of those two then fg all day long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    bear1 wrote: »
    Exactly, so my question is how do you decide which government to vote in without using politics?
    The entire premise makes no sense.
    Regardless if you think it's fun or not you are essentially asking would we want ff or fg back in government.
    If it's the choice of those two then fg all day long.

    There are 4 options in my question.
    Which one is fg?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Will any of these parties:

    A) Increase productivity of jam tarts?
    B) Make the size of them bigger?
    C) Make them free for general consumption?
    D) Protect the status of them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Will any of these parties:

    A) Increase productivity of jam tarts?
    B) Make the size of them bigger?
    C) Make them free for general consumption?
    D) Protect the status of them?

    They will all tell you they will. The party in power will tell you they already have.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,665 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Going off the trend of this and your last thread i suspect you might be trying to get us all to do a bit of homework for you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    I think most people trying to derail the thread would vote a certain option but don’t want to explain why.
    It’s ok there is no judgement in imagination land.
    You can write a big long reason or no reason at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    You can write a big long reason or no reason at all.

    The reason is this


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    There are 4 options in my question.
    Which one is fg?

    Options 1-4.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    bear1 wrote: »
    Options 1-4.

    If you wrote that on the ballot paper it’d probably be the same as writing none of the above.
    I think that’s like the freemen of Ireland strategy. If you need to poop on a public street a officer of the law must catch it in his hat apparently according to their views.
    Imagination land has no such law.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,665 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Isnt option 4 basically exactly your argument from your last thread,?

    You said we could create a global socialist utopia but ignored every request to explain how you would go about it


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    I've no idea why I read this thread to the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    I think FG over their time in power have proved the economy comes first and society second. Sadly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Isnt option 4 basically exactly your argument from your last thread,?

    You said we could create a global socialist utopia but ignored every request to explain how you would go about it

    You don’t need a money tree in a world with no money. So no option 4 is nothing like the last thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I think FG over their time in power have proved the economy comes first and society second. Sadly.

    Who?
    What option is that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    This election will be held in imagination land. So it can be anytime of the year.

    I pronounce myself king and execute the dissenters.

    Long Live The King!


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,665 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    Who?
    What option is that?

    Its imagination land so we are allowed come up with our own options, personally im voting for the crab people in option 42


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Its imagination land so we are allowed come up with our own options, personally im voting for the crab people in option 42

    Another none of the above vote


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,665 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    Another none of the above vote

    What happened to imagination land?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    VinLieger wrote: »
    What happened to imagination land?

    I feel it's a dictatorship, where only the divine leader's imagination is permitted.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,175 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I think FG over their time in power have proved the economy comes first and society second. Sadly.

    Classic Right-wing thinking. It's about time we had some proper Right vs. Left politics around here. This weird little setup where we have the one major party divided into two sides yelling "Yerra 'oor grandfather shot bullets at my grandfather, cunsha!!" is not terribly effective in this day and age. All we need now is a Labour party that believes society should come before the economy, as opposed to the current shambles that leaps into bed with any outfit that looks like it might allow them back to the trough. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,461 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Classic Right-wing thinking. It's about time we had some proper Right vs. Left politics around here. This weird little setup where we have the one major party divided into two sides yelling "Yerra 'oor grandfather shot bullets at my grandfather, cunsha!!" is not terribly effective in this day and age. All we need now is a Labour party that believes society should come before the economy, as opposed to the current shambles that leaps into bed with any outfit that looks like it might allow them back to the trough. :D

    FG aren't right wing, there is no real right wing or conservative parties in Ireland. Just lots of bland left of centre stuff with the odd PPP/AAA lefty loons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,175 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Ush1 wrote: »
    FG aren't right wing, there is no real right wing or conservative parties in Ireland. Just lots of bland left of centre stuff with the odd PPP/AAA lefty loons.

    I'd have said the FG/FF mish-mash was a just-right-of-centre outfit, but broadly speaking I agree with you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    What really interests me is option 1s reprehensible acts being ignored while option 2s past dodgey ness still being brought up.

    “I wouldn’t vote for option 2 they did stuff less worse than option 1”.

    When option 2 were in power We were loaded. Most average workers were rolling in it. Option 1 however wages aren’t great much less than when option 2 were running things.

    What would it take for option 1 to lose this support for providing a few low wage jobs.

    Who knows

    They’ve been proven dishonest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    So you are talking about fg and ff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    What really interests me is option 1s reprehensible acts being ignored while option 2s past dodgey ness still being brought up.

    “I wouldn’t vote for option 2 they did stuff less worse than option 1”.

    When option 2 were in power We were loaded. Most average workers were rolling in it. Option 1 however wages aren’t great much less than when option 2 were running things.

    What would it take for option 1 to lose this support for providing a few low wage jobs.

    Who knows

    They’ve been proven dishonest.
    Are you imagining those comments? Because they aren't here

    Your pretence that this is not a political discussion is shattered. It's clear what politics you adhere to and what response you wish to get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Are you imagining those comments? Because they aren't here

    Your pretence that this is not a political discussion is shattered. It's clear what politics you adhere to and what response you wish to get.

    It seems to upset you. Every thread I’ve started you seem to take offense to. Is it me or are you like that with all people?

    You arnt very welcoming. I think you are great though just Incase you think I won’t like you and you just wanna get the first shot in before you get your feelings hurt again.

    I think you are all great.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    It seems to upset you. Every thread I’ve started you seem to take offense to. Is it me or are you like that with all people?

    You arnt very welcoming. I think you are great though just Incase you think I won’t like you and you just wanna get the first shot in before you get your feelings hurt again.

    I think you are all great.

    Far from upset. :D

    I'm just befuddled and bemused by the pretence in the OP, as it's illogical and doesn't hold with your later posts. But in this imaginary world of yours I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Ajsoprano


    Far from upset. :D

    I'm just befuddled and bemused by the pretence in the OP, as it's illogical and doesn't hold with your later posts. But in this imaginary world of yours I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by anything.

    You could have just picked an option and decided whether or not to explain your reasoning.
    I’d say what good is the economy if only the few enjoy it while the many survive it.
    Option 2.
    I hadn’t decided until I spent the day thinking about it.
    You on the other hand tried to break the thread.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Ajsoprano wrote: »
    You could have just picked an option and decided whether or not to explain your reasoning.
    I’d say what good is the economy if only the few enjoy it while the many survive it.
    Option 2.
    I hadn’t decided until I spent the day thinking about it.
    You on the other hand tried to break the thread.

    I think you'll find I posted constructively on the importance of the economy.
    Asking what good is the economy seems strange. A strong economy is vital for any group to benefit society.

    As for the options, I said there were none that, even imaginary, I could vote for by the mandates given. As political discussion has been forbidden by our great dictator it's impossible to add much more by way of reason.


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