Corona virus and social protection

ToddDameron wrote: »

Does anyone have experience with casual dockets? I read on gov.ie that there is an online facility for returning them but I can't find it on welfare.ie. I'm working remotely and my boss can take days to respond sometimes so I don't think I can get them in on time.

Hi there, it is possible but you have to you use your mywelfare account to submit from what I can see on link below.

If you have a mywelfare account, good, if not set one up, very easy to do, you'll need email address and mobile phone number, both to hand for verification, you'll also need your PPS number. Basic account fine for this facility.

Read carefully and look at the pdf for instructions on casual dockets during Covid-19 etc, good luck

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/5cc237-what-to-do-if-youre-a-casual-worker-on-xs-and-os-during-coronavirus/

ToddDameron wrote: »

Thanks. For some reason it says I do not have a claim when I click to make a declaration. Anyway, Finglas Intreo has said I can scan and email them to them.

Yes, mywelfare claim status very slow to update but at least you can email the documents directly which is easier

_Brian wrote: »

HOw long are PUP claims taking at the moment, friend I helped did one two full weeks ago now and still showing as waiting for assessment on mywelfare site.

Seems a long time Brian, the mywelfare portal is slow to update status of application, so ignore that for a moment. My guess is your friend should recieve payment tommorow, if so great if not, I'd be calling them ASAP, most applications take a week but keep in mind weekends etc.

If your friend has not received any notification re decline or request for further info that's a good sign, no news with SW is generally good news if you get my meaning

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I applied for mine on October 8th and an hoping there is a payment in my account tomorrow, I haven't heard anything good or bad from them so hopefully that's a good sign.

As long as Criteria met etc should be fine, as long as no notification of decline or seeking further info etc, it's a good sign. Good luck

Curlysue76 wrote: »

Anyone previously earning over €400, payment restored to €350 again. If you don’t have a set weekly wage will they take average? If sometimes wage is €500 and some weeks €380 do they take the lower amount?

My experience was they worked it out on average earnings per week over the full period they look at (2019) and or first two months 2020., in simple terms they'll look at the years earnings and divide by 52 if that makes sense

Kinda sneaky move I think, alot of people earning just shy of 400 gross will loose out.

tritriagain wrote: »

I was made redundant in Feb before pup. I started a new job on August . Will I be entitled to pup now if company closes

Sorry to hear that. I've just checked criteria and it's been updated, looks like they've removed the initial criteria re in employment from early March, so maybe?

EDIT, keep in mind, payment rate determined on earnings from 2019 and or Jan/Feb 2020
Link here

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/#rate-of-payment

tritriagain wrote: »

Thanks for that.its what I thought but just wanted to double check.

No problem, I was actually surprised at the updated criteria on the 14th October, makes alot of sense as a lot have lost jobs or have been laid off since March and initial criteria very unfair on those affected from mid March onwards. Good luck

Was made redundant on Aug 8th due to a lack of work available. Applied for JSA immediately. Still have received no response to my application 2 months later despite numerous e-mails. At first I got automated responses but now I get nothing at all. Did I make a mistake in not applying for PUP at the time and could I apply for it now?

Dempo1 wrote: »

Yes indeed but it's likely to be spread out over a decent period of time so I wouldn't anticipate any shocks in Jan

Revenue, the hit will be over the year or so. Still something people will get a shock especially on the higher payment.

punisher5112 wrote: »

Revenue, the hit will be over the year or so. Still something people will get a shock especially on the higher payment.

It's actually been suggested over 4 years and also credits owed etc will be considered when working out liability

punisher5112 wrote: »

Didn't hear that, probably no choice as so many will be out of work and unable to pay.

The people who really should worry are those on the highest TWSS Scheme. It's going to be an interesting few months ahead

Dempo1 wrote: »

This is really tricky, the criteria was only updated on the 14th October, technically when you applied for JSA in Aug, you wouldn't have qualified for PUP, but now it seems you may, this is further complicated by you already applying for JSA and whilst not yet sorted (which is extraordinary by the way), you can't have 2 SW standard unemployment benefits. My best advice is to immediately clarify WTF is going on with the JSA and are you now entitled to PUP, I'd assume if you are, the JSA Application would if it can be closed, there is another complication however, when and if JSA Approved it should be back dated, if claim closed you coukd potentially forfeit that substantial back payment.

Have you received nothing since you finished your job, this is extraordinary?

You realky need to contact them and think carefully given your issue with JSA delays. This benifit should take no more than 4 weeks to be processed.

Is this because I applied for JSA or because I simply wasn't entitled to PUP?

Schwiiing wrote: »

Is this because I applied for JSA or because I simply wasn't entitled to PUP?

Absolutely not, there is something seriously wrong with this inordinate delay. You correctly applied for JSA as at the time that was the entitlement.

Deleted User wrote: »

Did you ring your local social welfare office? They’re best placed to help you.

Usually engaged as is the 1800 helpline number.

I received my payment this morning after applying on October 8th. No update on the my mywelfare page yet though.

Dempo1, you're clearly a man in the know. Do you know when the €350 will be restored?

torrevieja wrote: »

Can someone tell me when pup came out first everyone got €350, then they came out with a rule you had to have over €10,000 Net Pay,

then they said you had to have over €300 net to get €300,

Now there saying the payment is restored , to €350 a Week who had prior earnings ofover €400 a wweek or above, if u earning - €300 - €400 your payment becomes €300, earning between €200-€300 u get €250 etc, well this is were im confused is this money you must earn as Gross or is Nett pay help me out here please

Hi, the payment is based on Gross pay and worked out on an average weekly wage, working off earnings from 2019 and or Jan Feb 2020.

All that's changed now is those who earned over €400 gross per week will have full €350 restored and from payment made 27th of October next. I presume it will be automatic and no action required by claimants.

Edit, the criteria was slightly different for self employed, I noticed you mentioned €10k, other Thread helps with self employed questions

MintyMagnum wrote: »

Do u need letter from employer for PUP claim?

This was not a requirement and I don't think this has changed. You'll just need employer name, address etc, pps number and your own per details. mywelfare account the easiest and quickest way to apply

torrevieja wrote: »

So there basing this on Gross that's all I wanted to know why they couldn't say that in first place

But keep in mind self employed is turnover based so I can't advise on that as you know the challenges self employed have had since the outset

I assume the plan for post office payments in November has been suspended again?

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Have been on unemployment assistance since may (was previously on PUP but was given 3 day's work every 2 weeks).

With level 5 ... I'm facing loosing my 3 days , so do I need to reapply for PUP, I assume I also need to stop the unemployment assistance first, then reapply for PUP and hope there isn't any delay (financially struggling for the past few months even with state assistance)

Have started selling stuff from the house to get cash in to make ends meet....with lockdown, I'm guessing this may not even be possible.

Hi, sorry to hear this. This issue came up before and not straight forward, you'd assume you can just claim 5 days rather than 3 but does not seem the case. Added to this you can't have JSA/JSB or shortened hours payment and PUP at the same time.

To be honest, I'm going to advise contacting your local intero centre before doing anything, they are best place to advise. You need to avoid a period were you have no income, others may have additional advice. I don't feel you'll qualify for PUP however, I feel it will be full JSA. Good luck

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

I contacted them yesterday following the announcement on Monday and they said they couldn't advise me and asked do I want to close the unemployment assistance ? I said yes because with lockdown I'm completely out of work (again).

Shocking ineptitude, the concern I have is closing your temporary assistance requires you to sign up for another benifit and I'm hearing serious delays on new claims. At a guess and its only a guess would you now qualify for PUP?

The criteria re earnings for 2019 and or Jan/Feb 2020 still applies. We're you working in these periods (with no benefit?)

If as its seems you have now closed temporary payment, I don't think you have much option if you have earnings from 2019 etc to apply for PUP through mywelfare. If it's declined, you won't know for at least a few days (important temporary benefit closed fully before you commence.

If declined the only option is then to apply for full JSA but as advised, serious delays being reported. I know not ideal but is it possible to visit your local intero centre? Surely there has to be advice on this tricky issue. My primary concern for you is being without income for a period of time. There is the CWO option while any new claim being processed.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Get back on to them immediately. Closing your claim mightn’t have been the right thing. If you’re not totally satisfied with the information you’ve been given, ask them to clarify it with their supervisor.

They’re not the ogres they are often made out to be!

Have to agree, get BACK on ASAP, there certainly not Ogres but under pressure this however doesn't excuse bad advice.