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  • #102
    LeagleEagle747
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭LeagleEagle747


    Would there be enough time between rechecks and the next sitting to know whether you need to resit or not? I hate the idea of shelling out money for a recheck, then not getting the results in time, and then resitting, to find out I've gone up to a pass and I wasted time and energy studying for the subject when I didn't have to.


  • #103
    nmurphy1441
    Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    FE1s2021 wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long it takes to get a copy of your script?

    I was waiting ages the last sitting! Sat Tort in August, applied to see my script as I thought I did a lot better. Got 37... too low to get a re check I think. Was so long waiting I missed the application deadline for November for tort.


  • #104
    michaelot97
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭michaelot97


    bozzer198 wrote: »
    anyone else feel they done very well in the paper but results say otherwise, honestly starting to think theyre last minute system they put together didnt save some of my questions

    My equity result makes absolutely no sense to me. When will I get my recheck result? Will it even be before the March sitting?


  • #105
    LeagleEagle747
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭LeagleEagle747


    nmurphy1441 wrote: »
    I was waiting ages the last sitting! Sat Tort in August, applied to see my script as I thought I did a lot better. Got 37... too low to get a re check I think. Was so long waiting I missed the application deadline for November for tort.

    God the more I read about previous sittings and the rechecks, etc. make me really reconsider wanting to be a solicitor with the way the Law Society has been arsing around


  • #106
    nmurphy1441
    Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Fe7 wrote: »
    Same!

    https://forms.gle/884G1bmrUHv7YyvXA

    Submitted mine too!


  • #107
    Fe7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Fe7


    nmurphy1441 wrote: »
    I was waiting ages the last sitting! Sat Tort in August, applied to see my script as I thought I did a lot better. Got 37... too low to get a re check I think. Was so long waiting I missed the application deadline for November for tort.

    After seeing your script, did you feel ~7 marks per question was fair?


  • #108
    IgoPAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭IgoPAP


    Leave it to the Law Society to actually mark the exams harder during the Pandemic lmao


  • #109
    DavidX90
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭DavidX90


    TCPIP wrote: »
    Just a reminder of the form I created if anyone is willing to help compile some data on pass rates and average grades in these exams.

    https://forms.gle/884G1bmrUHv7YyvXA

    If I get enough numbers I'll post the results in a week so please share far and wide!

    I've completed the form but I ask that you share your results publicly, regardless of the sample size.

    Thanks.


  • #110
    LawLearnin
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭LawLearnin


    LeagleEagle747 wrote: »
    Would there be enough time between rechecks and the next sitting to know whether you need to resit or not? I hate the idea of shelling out money for a recheck, then not getting the results in time, and then resitting, to find out I've gone up to a pass and I wasted time and energy studying for the subject when I didn't have to.

    Wondering the same. If I have to resit, I'd rather do it asap. Would love to see the script before even applying for recheck but seems like there's zero chance of that before the recheck deadline.


  • #111
    Saved.bythelaw
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Saved.bythelaw


    I got 44 Constitutional. My third time failing it and I thought the exan went really well for me so it doesn't make sense at all. Its hit and miss with the rechecks but if you have the money to do them then go for it


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  • #112
    TCPIP
    Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭TCPIP


    DavidX90 wrote: »
    I've completed the form but I ask that you share your results publicly, regardless of the sample size.

    Thanks.

    Well based on the numbers so far it will be because the response is astounding.


  • #113
    bozzer198
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭bozzer198


    michaelot97 wrote: »
    My equity result makes absolutely no sense to me. When will I get my recheck result? Will it even be before the March sitting?

    i dont know tbh, im in the same boat but with company and tort, from looking at boards post exam i pulled out everything and had the same cases but still failed. i doubt it ,wouldnt expect it any time soon.


  • #114
    Corplawtrainee
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Corplawtrainee


    IgoPAP wrote: »
    Leave it to the Law Society to actually mark the exams harder during the Pandemic lmao

    Yeah, company seems to be a bit of a wildcard this year. A suprising number of people I know failed it, and those who passed were just 50 on the dot. Genuinely, though that they'd be basically be passing anybody who sat the exams and half-knew the content, given the circumstances.


  • #115
    Fe7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Fe7


    Corplawtrainee wrote: »
    Yeah, company seems to be a bit of a wildcard this year. A suprising number of people I know failed it, and those who passed were just 50 on the dot. Genuinely, though that they'd be basically be passing anybody who sat the exams and half-knew the content, given the circumstances.

    I'm curious if a large number of people were cheating, having been able to use the Act (maybe notes inside or something). And marking it harder was to combat this. I really don't know. I hope not as well, cause it would be real **** for the rest of us. (But also, EU has open book.. but at the same time a different examiner). So shellshocked at this result. It was definitely my best.. the fact I got 36 when I studied for so long and even had a book in front of me makes no sense.


  • #116
    AlexTG356
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭AlexTG356


    42 in Company, which although I feel didn’t go as well as my other exams, which I thankfully passed, I still feel it was marked a small bit harsh. For anyone who’s had company rechecked in the past but felt it was a long shot, how did you get on?


  • #117
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    channing90 wrote: »
    Passed Constitutional can't believe it, 8 exams passed at last. Thanks so much to anyone on here who has helped me in anyway. There are some great people on this forum. Now to find a TC.

    Well done! :):)
    Good luck on finding a TC too!

    Any advice on passing constitutional welcome!!!


  • #118
    FE1Nov20
    Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭FE1Nov20


    How did people find Tort marking??


  • #119
    nmurphy1441
    Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Fe7 wrote: »
    After seeing your script, did you feel ~7 marks per question was fair?

    Totally not!!! But it’s a matter of opinion! I was waiting a long time. I was hoping once I saw my script again, I’d feel comfortable to apply for a recheck based on my answers but by the time I got my script, recheck and application deadlines had passed so just got on with it. And November tort paper seemed like something I would have done well in judging by the paper!


  • #120
    LeagleEagle747
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭LeagleEagle747


    LawLearnin wrote: »
    Wondering the same. If I have to resit, I'd rather do it asap. Would love to see the script before even applying for recheck but seems like there's zero chance of that before the recheck deadline.

    Yes wondering if it's just easier to resit seeing as it's €10 more expensive to have a recheck rather than sit the exam. I'm terrible with in-person exams and my anxiety goes through the roof so I never perform well, so I've preferred the online system in that I can do it from home in a familiar setting, but I have too many to sit this March that it's better I push some to next September but I would really rather they still be online, so I'm in a Catch-22 situation


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  • #121
    Law101
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Law101


    Fe7 wrote: »
    Same!

    https://forms.gle/884G1bmrUHv7YyvXA

    Same here


  • #122
    Sunflowers8
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Sunflowers8


    There seems to be more posts about fails than usual, sorry to everyone in that boat.

    WHY do they leave such a short time between results and the next sitting? There’s literally no reason why the next sitting couldn’t be in April to give people a chance to get rechecks done.


  • #123
    Saved.bythelaw
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Saved.bythelaw


    Id say so, i got 44 and going to get it rechecked


  • #124
    Al1501
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Al1501


    Fe7 wrote: »
    did ANYONE pass company .. and if so, by more than the skin of the teeth?

    I got 38 in Company. I thought it was my best, it was the only one I failed!


  • #125
    Law101
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Law101


    FE1Nov20 wrote: »
    How did people find Tort marking??

    Well I got 46 in tort and I’m actually raging! With the exam crashing through it all and the stress of the beginning of the whole start time delayed with crashing - it’s absolutely absurd. I’m so raging right now


  • #126
    Fe179user
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Fe179user


    Can you request your scripts if you passed and how do you do this? Is there a charge for looking at your scripts? Also if you request scripts is there a chance your exam grade will be changed, I was expecting a fail for contract law but somehow managed to get 51 so I’m absolutely shocked.


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  • #127
    Fe1taker2020
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭Fe1taker2020


    What’s the general consensus regarding constitutional? Do you feel it was harshly marked?


  • #128
    Mc96
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭Mc96


    I thankfully passed the 3 I sat but would also rather more time before the next sitting as I found it hard to get any meaningful study done with results hanging over me. Is it worth a number of us emailing to ask they are pushed out? I know that it takes quite a lot of pressure for them to change but if enough of us emailed/phoned they may consider it.


  • #129
    phildub
    Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭phildub


    FE1Nov20 wrote: »
    How did people find Tort marking??

    I thought it was my best exam, like I didnt not stip writing. Now maybe I misidentified the issues but I got 55, I am in now way complaining because all I want is 50 but I was surprised, I got 62 in criminal when I rushed through the last question so noone of it makes sense.

    I thought I'd fail eu and company and I passed so my heart goes out to those of you that thought you passed and failed, seems to be no rhyme or reason!


  • #130
    Fe7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Fe7


    The fact so many people seem to have gotten the 30's and are confused with Company instead is astounding. I even threw in the amendments to the Company Law Act with the Covid 2020 amendment in my answers! e.g X should file this before December 2020 to avail of X, after Dec 31st such and such applies.. blah blah


  • #131
    Corplawtrainee
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Corplawtrainee


    Do you reckon the LS would push back exams if there was enough backlash? Given the amount of people that now need to resit and who were definitely not expecitng to do so, seems ridiculous to have such a short time in between to prepare.


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  • #132
    phildub
    Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭phildub


    Law101 wrote: »
    Well I got 46 in tort and I’m actually raging! With the exam crashing through it all and the stress of the beginning of the whole start time delayed with crashing - it’s absolutely absurd. I’m so raging right now

    Ya I dont see how they can fail people In tort, some people were given the opportunity to go back and finish the paper after they saw the exam! Others weren't! You should be able to appeal that without a recheck, we literally lost time!


  • #133
    FE1new
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭FE1new


    I passed Criminal and Property but I am absolutely shocked about my Equity mark of 43. Genuinely thought it was my best exam. If I had of failed Property I wouldn't have been surprised. It seems as though a lot of people are the same. Gutted and its really put a black cloud over my mood.


  • #134
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I think it’s really important for us to push for a decent timeline between rechecks and the next sitting.

    We should start hounding the Law Society from today and if we don’t get an answer within a week or two take it to TDs, media, whoever we can

    It’s a terrible state of affairs where people think it’s easier to study an entire subject again rather than be afforded an accessible recheck/review system.

    Like everyone said, we’re in the middle of a global pandemic and we’re being treated worse than ever by a professional body!


  • #135
    ruby1998
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭ruby1998


    I agree, really think they haven't given us a chance to catch our breaths.


  • #136
    Law101
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Law101


    phildub wrote: »
    Ya I dont see how they can fail people In tort, some people were given the opportunity to go back and finish the paper after they saw the exam! Others weren't! You should be able to appeal that without a recheck, we literally lost time!

    Yeah I actually forgot people were even allowed go back in and finish!!! This is farce. Complete joke on their part. I’m raging even more now


  • #137
    Fe7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Fe7


    The petition I started regarding the entire approach of the law society only has ~170 supporters: http://chng.it/zZ8gqnMHp6

    The previous petition regarding pushing out October exams has over ~600: http://chng.it/2XFRnF4kbV

    Unsure if the person who started that one could get another going, or what to do now. But there isn't enough supporters on the former and I feel like I've wasted my time trying to get others on board to repeal their system personally.


  • #138
    SLB19971997
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭SLB19971997


    Congrats everyone!

    Any advice on getting contract re checked?? I got 41 and I thought I did great in it! It went so well for me!


  • #139
    Dropin
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭Dropin


    Instead of asking them to push back the next sitting, is there anything to be said for having a 3rd sitting this year to split the March and October exams? Probably wishful thinking but given the year thats been in it with dates being pushed back constantly, results out so close to sittings and even 2 weeks notice of a new format; surely a summer sitting to balance out the disruption should be considered?


  • #140
    Ianmc97
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Ianmc97


    Fe179user wrote: »
    Can you request your scripts if you passed and how do you do this? Is there a charge for looking at your scripts? Also if you request scripts is there a chance your exam grade will be changed, I was expecting a fail for contract law but somehow managed to get 51 so I’m absolutely shocked.

    ask for it under gdpr they have to provide copies of it I did it for my first sitting where I failed one and got all 4 copies of my exams


  • #141
    Fe7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Fe7


    Ianmc97 wrote: »
    ask for it under gdpr they have to provide copies of it I did it for my first sitting where I failed kne and got all 4 exams

    Did you apply for a re-check and change in marks? In the end did getting your script aid you?


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  • #142
    LS3
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭LS3


    I know the last year has been tough for a lot of us on here and hope that results hasn't pushed anyone over the edge. If anyone needs to talk please don't be afraid to message me if they just simply feel like they need a friend to talk to in similar circumstances.

    Samaritans are also available for people to call and have a chat on (01) 671 0071

    Please reach out if you need help.


  • #143
    FE1student560
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭FE1student560


    Anyone else beginning to think the whole thing is complete bull****? I got 38 in company having answered all 5 questions in full with plenty of caselaw. I got 48 in tort last year having left early and leaving 2 questions blank. Is this whole thing a scheme to extract money from young people? Are they marking it harder to account for potential cheating? If so that's hardly fair on people who didn't cheat. Genuinely astounded that I failed that exam hahaha. Not even angry just shocked


  • #144
    phildub
    Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭phildub


    Dropin wrote: »
    Instead of asking them to push back the next sitting, is there anything to be said for having a 3rd sitting this year to split the March and October exams? Probably wishful thinking but given the year thats been in it with dates being pushed back constantly, results out so close to sittings and even 2 weeks notice of a new format; surely a summer sitting to balance out the disruption should be considered?


    I sent a email off to them yesterday to ask if either of these two options were currently being considered by the law society, as you could of guessed, I have no received a reply


  • #145
    michaelot97
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭michaelot97


    FE1student560 wrote: »
    Anyone else beginning to think the whole thing is complete bull****? I got 38 in company having answered all 5 questions in full with plenty of caselaw. I got 48 in tort last year having left early and leaving 2 questions blank. Is this whole thing a scheme to extract money from young people? Are they marking it harder to account for potential cheating? If so that's hardly fair on people who didn't cheat. Genuinely astounded that I failed that exam hahaha. Not even angry just shocked

    There's something not adding up with how people got on in Company and Equity this sitting... It all seems a bit off.


  • #146
    lsheehaneire
    Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭lsheehaneire


    How long does it take for them to send your script back?


  • #147
    LawStudent999
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭LawStudent999


    I have to agree about something being off about equity this sitting. I have seen 43 as a mark pop up quite a bit in this forum and I got the same. Screams lazy marking.


  • #148
    bkm2020
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭bkm2020


    FE1student560 wrote: »
    Anyone else beginning to think the whole thing is complete bull****? I got 38 in company having answered all 5 questions in full with plenty of caselaw. I got 48 in tort last year having left early and leaving 2 questions blank. Is this whole thing a scheme to extract money from young people? Are they marking it harder to account for potential cheating? If so that's hardly fair on people who didn't cheat. Genuinely astounded that I failed that exam hahaha. Not even angry just shocked

    Well put!


  • #149
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    lsheehaneire wrote: »
    How long does it take for them to send your script back?

    Knowing the law society I would imagine forever! I think someone said they’re still waiting on their script from August? I would encourage as many people as possible to email - power in numbers and all that!


  • #150
    orlaghs
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭orlaghs


    FE1student560 wrote: »
    Anyone else beginning to think the whole thing is complete bull****? I got 38 in company having answered all 5 questions in full with plenty of caselaw. I got 48 in tort last year having left early and leaving 2 questions blank. Is this whole thing a scheme to extract money from young people? Are they marking it harder to account for potential cheating? If so that's hardly fair on people who didn't cheat. Genuinely astounded that I failed that exam hahaha. Not even angry just shocked

    I feel the exact same! I only got 44 in property and thought it went so well, even my family said that I was so confident after it that I should get it rechecked which is what I'll be doing. Judging by the reactions of people here, and the fact that remotely invigilated exams (not even invigilated by an actual person!!) were not reduced in price.. seems like a money scheme. Someone said a few days ago that other exams that were moved to remote sittings were reduced in price for obvious reasons. LS have done nothing to compensate or make the exam process any easier.
    The whole thing seems like a bit of a joke if I'm honest. Feeling really deflated.


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  • #151
    Philodendron
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭Philodendron


    Just to add to the conversation, I got 57 in Equity and 54 in Company but I failed both 3-4 times and used to get very low scores in previous sittings.

    On another note, I finally passed all 8 after feeling like it will never end so I thank this forum for all the support. These exams are brutal and it helped so much knowing I wasn't alone in all of this.


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