Micheal O' Leary: What a fu-cking whinge bag.

AMKC · 17-05-2021 11:03am #1

Honestly is that all he can do whinge. Nothing constructive ever comes out of his big fat mouth.
On Sky News this morning whinging as usual because Ryanair are not getting any funding from state home-state owned Airlines. Can't say I am sorry in the slightest. In fact if Ryanair were to ho bust I would be delighted. It's bad for myths environment and its staff are overworked and underpaid. If you want to fly you should have a good reason to fly not be going on 5 or 6 holidays a year. I am glad the Pandemic has but on end to most of that excessive holidaying and hope it never goes back like that.

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LollipopJimmy · 17-05-2021 11:05am

Yeah your title and opening line are a bit pathetic, maybe watch your own whinging

17-05-2021 11:05am

I'm gonna guess you don't work at the airport?

Baggly · 17-05-2021 11:10am

Please note the mod note now in the OP.

Magno_DT · 17-05-2021 11:11am

I fly Aer Lingus but I believe I can do that only because Ryanair exist and keep Aer Lingus on their toes. God only knows what Aer Lingus would be charging us these days if it weren't for Ryanair's crazy low prices.

17-05-2021 11:11am

Mikey plays the media like a fiddle, I'm confident he doesn't believe half the guff that comes out of his mouth. There is no savvier operator at drawing attention to his business, and that translates into more profit. Like him or loathe him, he has mastered the art of marketing and free publicity.

Outkast_IRE · 17-05-2021 11:15am

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Mikey plays the media like a fiddle, I'm confident he doesn't believe half the guff that comes out of his mouth. There is no savvier operator at drawing attention to himself and his airline, and that translates into more profit. Like him or loathe him, he has mastered the art of marketing and free publicity.

I never minded him previously . But his everyman persona really fell apart during the pandemic. Essentially saying everyone else was wrong and we should all carry on flying and buying flights as normal , that the restrictions dont work etc.

His bottom line is all he cares for and he was preaching false information at every turn. I doubt he was going to offer to cover medical expenses of those catching covid on flights etc.

17-05-2021 11:17am

He's supposed to be a nice enough chap in person from what the staff I know have said.

His business side however doesn't allow staff to charge their phones in work, bans unions, only pays staff from the boarding time and generally treats customers like cattle, while bypassing a number of regulations where possible.

Two sides of the same coin. I worry more for the airheads who talk about putting him in charge of other businesses. I'm sure they wouldn't like to work for him.

AMKC · 17-05-2021 11:31am

Magno_DT wrote: »

I fly Aer Lingus but I believe I can do that only because Ryanair exist and keep Aer Lingus on their toes. God only knows what Aer Lingus would be charging us these days if it weren't for Ryanair's crazy low prices.

If Micheal O' Leary had his way Aer Lingus and all the other state airlines would be gone bust and Ryanair would then rule the skys and charge what it likes so Aer Lingus and the other airlines keep Ryanair on its toes too. That is why it is important that they still be around and do not go bust and big states like Germany, France, Italy and the UK know this.

OwenM · 17-05-2021 11:38am

AMKC wrote: »

If Micheal O' Leary had his way Aer Lingus and all the other state airlines would be gone bust and Ryanair would then rule the skys and charge what it likes so Aer Lingus and the other airlines keep Ryanair on its toes too. That is why it is important that they still be around and do not go bust and big states like Germany, France, Italy and the UK know this.

Before Ryanair came along it cost the equivalent of €1200 to fly Dublin to London, of course nobody (nearly) could afford that so people got a bus.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-1.85501

Aer Lingus was adding to its art collection at the time, I think we should put up with O'Leary spitting the dummy now and again.

17-05-2021 11:40am

I'm old enough to remember (and it isn't actually that long ago!!!) you'd need the price of a decent second-hand car just to get off this island, and that was only as far as London. Weekend shopping trips to Paris and Madrid seem to be taken for granted these days, but before RyanAir came along the only people you'd see on a plane were either rich or else emigrating with a very small expectation of flying back home anytime soon.

billie1b · 17-05-2021 11:41am

AMKC wrote: »

Honestly is that all he can do whinge. Nothing constructive ever comes out of his big fat mouth.
On Sky News this morning whinging as usual because Ryanair are not getting any funding from state home-state owned Airlines. Can't say I am sorry in the slightest. In fact if Ryanair were to ho bust I would be delighted. It's bad for myths environment and its staff are overworked and underpaid. If you want to fly you should have a good reason to fly not be going on 5 or 6 holidays a year. I am glad the Pandemic has but on end to most of that excessive holidaying and hope it never goes back like that.

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Tell me, how much is my yearly wage and the hours that I work for you to state that i'm overworked and underpaid?

McGinniesta · 17-05-2021 11:41am

G'wan the Michael O'Leary.

G'Wan

Car99 · 17-05-2021 11:44am

AMKC wrote: »

Honestly is that all he can do whinge. Nothing constructive ever comes out of his big fat mouth.
On Sky News this morning whinging as usual because Ryanair are not getting any funding from state home-state owned Airlines. Can't say I am sorry in the slightest. In fact if Ryanair were to ho bust I would be delighted. It's bad for myths environment and its staff are overworked and underpaid. If you want to fly you should have a good reason to fly not be going on 5 or 6 holidays a year. I am glad the Pandemic has but on end to most of that excessive holidaying and hope it never goes back like that.

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I think MOL has more constructive things to say than yourself in fairness.

Hyperbollix · 17-05-2021 11:54am

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Mikey plays the media like a fiddle, I'm confident he doesn't believe half the guff that comes out of his mouth. There is no savvier operator at drawing attention to his business, and that translates into more profit. Like him or loathe him, he has mastered the art of marketing and free publicity.

Exactly. I can nearly see him now on another British news programme whinging and moaning like the end of the world is nigh. Then at the very end he will smirk, wink and remind people that there's a 50% off discount on all flights for the next 24 hours.

He's like Trump if Trump actually had business savvy.

17-05-2021 1:16pm

What it cost to fly with Aer Lingus in the 1980s is irelevent. Airfare for the entire globe was a far more expensive event and it was even more expensive in 1960.

It was more an event in general before no frills became a thing. Ryanair also isnt the reason why airfares in Europe as a whole or indeed, the US have come down. Competition, cheaper supplies and less service are the main factors.

Compare the cost of a computer in 1989 to today. Michael nor Bill nor any single entity can take credit for that. They can share in the credit but they cant claim it all

17-05-2021 1:17pm

billie1b wrote: »

Tell me, how much is my yearly wage and the hours that I work for you to state that i'm overworked and underpaid?

are you saying that you are overpaid and underworked?

Car99 · 17-05-2021 1:28pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

are you saying that you are overpaid and underworked?

I would guess he is saying he is fairly compensated for his skills and the effort required to carry out the duties of his position within Ryanair.

branie2 · 17-05-2021 1:34pm

If it wasn't for him, we'd be taking the ferry to England or France

lawred2 · 17-05-2021 1:35pm

AMKC wrote: »

Honestly is that all he can do whinge. Nothing constructive ever comes out of his big fat mouth.
On Sky News this morning whinging as usual because Ryanair are not getting any funding from state home-state owned Airlines. Can't say I am sorry in the slightest. In fact if Ryanair were to ho bust I would be delighted. It's bad for myths environment and its staff are overworked and underpaid. If you want to fly you should have a good reason to fly not be going on 5 or 6 holidays a year. I am glad the Pandemic has but on end to most of that excessive holidaying and hope it never goes back like that.

Mod: Title edited on spelling and removing misogyny grounds.

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you'd be in the minority of people

the rest of us appreciate connectivity to the wider world

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime · 17-05-2021 1:46pm

I don't believe for a minute he is the sole reason for cheap flights

Sure pre-pandemic it was just as cheap to fly to new York than it was to half the places in Europe with this lad.

Personally I've no time for Ryanair, I purposely go out of my way to avoid flying them and the last time I did to Poland I actually got cheaper flights roughly €100 cheaper with Lufthansa than Ryanair, going to the likes of Spain etc , Iberia, Vueling, aer lingus etc all worked out cheaper for me in the past.

I'd love to know who's going on a weekend shopping spree in Paris and Milan and flying Ryanair because that doesn't sound right to me. RYANAIR leaving you miles outside Paris meaning you've to get a crowded bus to a city then onto your hotel again.

But anyway I'm sure everyone who absolutely loves Ryanair and think they are the only airline they would ever fly with will be happy to learn they ordered their own special Boeing max 8 planes with roughly 220 seats. The FAA etc had to get ryanair planes it's own safety certification because it's capacity is more than any other Max 8 plane. Also with the shortest leg room in a commerical airline today ! So there's that too.

I'd be happy for Ryanair to stay around however. Because in the airport you can see the type of people that fly with them and the trouble that can be caused. All you have to do is look around their gates in Terminal 1 and half the place is on a session and very loud. I'd happily leave them to their own plane thanks.

Strumms · 17-05-2021 1:46pm

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

I never minded him previously . But his everyman persona really fell apart during the pandemic. Essentially saying everyone else was wrong and we should all carry on flying and buying flights as normal , that the restrictions dont work etc.

His bottom line is all he cares for and he was preaching false information at every turn. I doubt he was going to offer to cover medical expenses of those catching covid on flights etc.

I agree there. His more deeply sinister side came to the fore during this pandemic...

“Vaccination is the way out of this Covid crisis, not these failed lockdowns,"

All very well Michael but when vaccines are not available ? Duhh !

He has lost one very regular Ryanair customer here, more in fact family too..

lawred2 · 17-05-2021 1:51pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I don't believe for a minute he is the sole reason for cheap flights

Sure pre-pandemic it was just as cheap to fly to new York than it was to half the places in Europe with this lad.

Personally I've no time for Ryanair, I purposely go out of my way to avoid flying them and the last time I did to Poland I actually got cheaper flights roughly €100 cheaper with Lufthansa than Ryanair, going to the likes of Spain etc , Iberia, Vueling, aer lingus etc all worked out cheaper for me in the past.

I'd love to know who's going on a weekend shopping spree in Paris and Milan and flying Ryanair because that doesn't sound right to me. RYANAIR leaving you miles outside Paris meaning you've to get a crowded bus to a city then onto your hotel again.

But anyway I'm sure everyone who absolutely loves Ryanair and think they are the only airline they would ever fly with will be happy to learn they ordered their own special Boeing max 8 planes with roughly 220 seats. The FAA etc had to get ryanair planes it's own safety certification because it's capacity is more than any other Max 8 plane. Also with the shortest leg room in a commerical airline today ! So there's that too.

I'd be happy for Ryanair to stay around however. Because in the airport you can see the type of people that fly with them and the trouble that can be caused. All you have to do is look around their gates in Terminal 1 and half the place is on a session and very loud. I'd happily leave them to their own plane thanks.

and nor does anyone else

nice bit of pompous waffling though

17-05-2021 1:53pm

Car99 wrote: »

I would guess he is saying he is fairly compensated for his skills and the effort required to carry out the duties of his position within Ryanair.

Seems quite confrontational when the person he was challenging was defending him and saying he should be paid more.

I would love people to argue for a raise on my behalf

17-05-2021 1:56pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I don't believe for a minute he is the sole reason for cheap flights

Sure pre-pandemic it was just as cheap to fly to new York than it was to half the places in Europe with this lad.

Personally I've no time for Ryanair, I purposely go out of my way to avoid flying them and the last time I did to Poland I actually got cheaper flights roughly €100 cheaper with Lufthansa than Ryanair, going to the likes of Spain etc , Iberia, Vueling, aer lingus etc all worked out cheaper for me in the past.

I'd love to know who's going on a weekend shopping spree in Paris and Milan and flying Ryanair because that doesn't sound right to me. RYANAIR leaving you miles outside Paris meaning you've to get a crowded bus to a city then onto your hotel again.

But anyway I'm sure everyone who absolutely loves Ryanair and think they are the only airline they would ever fly with will be happy to learn they ordered their own special Boeing max 8 planes with roughly 220 seats. The FAA etc had to get ryanair planes it's own safety certification because it's capacity is more than any other Max 8 plane. Also with the shortest leg room in a commerical airline today ! So there's that too.

I'd be happy for Ryanair to stay around however. Because in the airport you can see the type of people that fly with them and the trouble that can be caused. All you have to do is look around their gates in Terminal 1 and half the place is on a session and very loud. I'd happily leave them to their own plane thanks.

wow!

Have you considered that they sometimes fly to locations that suit people more? For example, they are the only company that allows myself to fly direct. Everyone else I need to go via London or Madrid and so on

billie1b · 17-05-2021 1:56pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

are you saying that you are overpaid and underworked?

Never said that but it was a pretty strange statement to come out with when he/she probably has never worked for Ryanair. I might not like working there but my shifts are quite good and my salary is comfortable enough for the role and experience I have in my job.
Agency folks might have a different opinion because they get shafted on pay but most Ryanair employed staff stay there due to the shifts and pay.

JoChervil · 17-05-2021 2:02pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I don't believe for a minute he is the sole reason for cheap flights

Sure pre-pandemic it was just as cheap to fly to new York than it was to half the places in Europe with this lad.

Personally I've no time for Ryanair, I purposely go out of my way to avoid flying them and the last time I did to Poland I actually got cheaper flights roughly €100 cheaper with Lufthansa than Ryanair, going to the likes of Spain etc , Iberia, Vueling, aer lingus etc all worked out cheaper for me in the past.

I'd love to know who's going on a weekend shopping spree in Paris and Milan and flying Ryanair because that doesn't sound right to me. RYANAIR leaving you miles outside Paris meaning you've to get a crowded bus to a city then onto your hotel again.

But anyway I'm sure everyone who absolutely loves Ryanair and think they are the only airline they would ever fly with will be happy to learn they ordered their own special Boeing max 8 planes with roughly 220 seats. The FAA etc had to get ryanair planes it's own safety certification because it's capacity is more than any other Max 8 plane. Also with the shortest leg room in a commerical airline today ! So there's that too.

I'd be happy for Ryanair to stay around however. Because in the airport you can see the type of people that fly with them and the trouble that can be caused. All you have to do is look around their gates in Terminal 1 and half the place is on a session and very loud. I'd happily leave them to their own plane thanks.

What a condescending post! I am happily flying with Ryanair and I am delighted that I am not flying with "types" like yours...

Masala · 17-05-2021 2:07pm

branie2 wrote: »

If it wasn't for him, we'd be taking the ferry to England or France

I dont think so..... other operators would have moved in. Richard Branson / EasyJet/ Etc Etc......

Mikey was in the right place at the right time.... if it wasn't him it would have been someone else.

The problem now... is that he wont allow anyone else enter the market without driving them back out (Easy Jet) and he is now in dominant position to charge what he likes.

Don't let anyone tell you that MOL care about you and me and the whole of Ireland Inc etc..... he is strictly about the bottom line and his share price.

billie1b · 17-05-2021 2:27pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

But anyway I'm sure everyone who absolutely loves Ryanair and think they are the only airline they would ever fly with will be happy to learn they ordered their own special Boeing max 8 planes with roughly 220 seats. The FAA etc had to get ryanair planes it's own safety certification because it's capacity is more than any other Max 8 plane. Also with the shortest leg room in a commerical airline today ! So there's that too.

Ryanairs Max 8 variant have a seating capacity of 197, 7 less than the max capacity of 204, none of the Max 8 variants have a seating capacity of 220, I believe you're getting mixed up with the Max 10 variant, which is a longer and higher version of the Max 8 with bigger engines and higher landing gear which has a capacity of upto 226 in a full single class cabin, which currently Ryanair have none.

17-05-2021 3:07pm

Is he not the same as any other being on the planet? I mean if for some bizarre reason the contents of Paul McCartney's bank account was the sort of thing that would keep you awake at night then you have the option to not buy a Beatles album next time you're out shopping. No one gives a flying fukc if you want to hand a thousand euros over to Aer Lingus or Lufthansa next time you need to sit on a plane for an hour, knock yourself out, I'll swallow my pride and pay the tenner to fly with Mick.

17-05-2021 3:28pm

billie1b wrote: »

Never said that but it was a pretty strange statement to come out with when he/she probably has never worked for Ryanair. I might not like working there but my shifts are quite good and my salary is comfortable enough for the role and experience I have in my job.
Agency folks might have a different opinion because they get shafted on pay but most Ryanair employed staff stay there due to the shifts and pay.

Well thats your opinion and you do work there.

I consider your working conditions to be below par and would be looking to join a union so I could fight for better but I dont work there nor would I wish to (your on call days and call back to work system would not be tolerated in most industries)

Phil.x · 17-05-2021 3:35pm

Ireland would be screwed if it wasn't for Ryanair, and remember we are an island, and now Ryanair is our national carrier through default and not IAG aer lingus. So show some respect

Adyx · 17-05-2021 3:44pm

Maybe air travel should go back to being the preserve of the wealthy.

Strumms · 17-05-2021 4:21pm

branie2 wrote: »

If it wasn't for him, we'd be taking the ferry to England or France

He has played a major role in making air travel more affordable.

Having said that, so has technology, more efficient, better designed and lighter aircraft... using multiple less tonnes of fuel, cheaper yet more reliable to maintain... so boeing and airbus have kicked it off, o’leary took the ball and ran sure...credit where it’s due in that respect...

AMKC · 17-05-2021 4:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Is he not the same as any other being on the planet? I mean if for some bizarre reason the contents of Paul McCartney's bank account was the sort of thing that would keep you awake at night then you have the option to not buy a Beatles album next time you're out shopping. No one gives a flying fukc if you want to hand a thousand euros over to Aer Lingus or Lufthansa next time you need to sit on a plane for an hour, knock yourself out, I'll swallow my pride and pay the tenner to fly with Mick.

You do that and end up getting a clot on the squashed Ryanair seats with no legroom too. That's your choice your body.

MyLove4Satan · 17-05-2021 4:30pm

AMKC wrote: »

Honestly is that all he can do whinge. Nothing constructive ever comes out of his big fat mouth. .

Other than allowing countless millions of working class people to see the world...create tens of thousands of jobs...generated billions into the Irish economy and demolished the Union and Management Cushy Number at Aer Lingus and Aer Rinta ripping off the Irish nation for generations.

yeah, he hasn't risen to your level of perfection yet.

17-05-2021 4:38pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I don't believe for a minute he is the sole reason for cheap flights

Sure pre-pandemic it was just as cheap to fly to new York than it was to half the places in Europe with this lad.

Personally I've no time for Ryanair, I purposely go out of my way to avoid flying them and the last time I did to Poland I actually got cheaper flights roughly €100 cheaper with Lufthansa than Ryanair, going to the likes of Spain etc , Iberia, Vueling, aer lingus etc all worked out cheaper for me in the past.

I'd love to know who's going on a weekend shopping spree in Paris and Milan and flying Ryanair because that doesn't sound right to me. RYANAIR leaving you miles outside Paris meaning you've to get a crowded bus to a city then onto your hotel again.

But anyway I'm sure everyone who absolutely loves Ryanair and think they are the only airline they would ever fly with will be happy to learn they ordered their own special Boeing max 8 planes with roughly 220 seats. The FAA etc had to get ryanair planes it's own safety certification because it's capacity is more than any other Max 8 plane. Also with the shortest leg room in a commerical airline today ! So there's that too.

I'd be happy for Ryanair to stay around however. Because in the airport you can see the type of people that fly with them and the trouble that can be caused. All you have to do is look around their gates in Terminal 1 and half the place is on a session and very loud. I'd happily leave them to their own plane thanks.

I don’t buy that Ryanair are worse than most everybody else either. Like everybody else, back when I could fly, I took the cheapest ticket. Be it Ryanair, Lufthansa, British Airways or Aer Lingus. The differences were slight. Ryanair has the most modern fleet, the others are slightly more comfortable.

Most of the pain in flying is the airport itself. Security. The long walk to gates. When I’m on the plane I’m happy.

(In fact when priority boarding was free for the online savvy Ryanair was better than the rest)

Never saw a session on a Ryanair flight by the way. Charter planes and east jet maybe worse, but shy plane can have sessions. Why would that be if Ryanair isn’t the cheapest anymore.

basill · 17-05-2021 4:39pm

MyLove4Satan wrote: »

Other than allowing countless millions of working class people to see the world...create tens of thousands of jobs...generated billions into the Irish economy and demolished the Union and Management Cushy Number at Aer Lingus and Aer Rinta ripping off the Irish nation for generations.

yeah, he hasn't risen to your level of perfection yet.

You seem to have convieniently forgotten that the owners of the above were the Irish state who were gouging you.

riewomann · 17-05-2021 4:42pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm old enough to remember (and it isn't actually that long ago!!!) you'd need the price of a decent second-hand car just to get off this island, and that was only as far as London. Weekend shopping trips to Paris and Madrid seem to be taken for granted these days, but before RyanAir came along the only people you'd see on a plane were either rich or else emigrating with a very small expectation of flying back home anytime soon.

This is the way it should be. We should not be jetting off to Lisbon "for the weekend" (pre covid I know).

People should not be free to fly halfway around the world for for €500 quid.

The aviation industry needs to be taxed into oblivion.

Want to go to Portugal? Yeah next sailing is tomorrow morning at 8, bring a book.

newuser99999 · 17-05-2021 4:44pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I don't believe for a minute he is the sole reason for cheap flights

Go to Canada and try to get a cheap flight then. Upwards of €600 for a flight the same distance as Dublin to Warsaw.

ineedeuro · 17-05-2021 4:47pm

Ryanair work on the basis that "Any PR is good PR"
They release stories previously about having passengers with no seats etc, just so people would fly off the handle and discuss them across social media. They will do anything for media attention and keep themselves in the news

In regards to the OP point, Michael O'Leary is right, plenty of bloated airlines getting propped up by governments which makes it unfair for the non-government airlines.

mrh1974 · 17-05-2021 4:49pm

riewomann wrote: »

This is the way it should be. We should not be jetting off to Lisbon "for the weekend" (pre covid I know).

People should not be free to fly halfway around the world for for €500 quid.

The aviation industry needs to be taxed into oblivion.

Want to go to Portugal? Yeah next sailing is tomorrow morning at 8, bring a book.

*in your opinion.

17-05-2021 4:49pm

riewomann wrote: »

This is the way it should be. We should not be jetting off to Lisbon "for the weekend" (pre covid I know).

People should not be free to fly halfway around the world for for €500 quid.

The aviation industry needs to be taxed into oblivion.

Want to go to Portugal? Yeah next sailing is tomorrow morning at 8, bring a book.

Why tax? Why not give one return ticket per person per year, including business people?

the top 10% do most of the flying and higher tax won't help there.

You might also want to read up on the misery of getting off this island pre cheap flights.

JoChervil · 17-05-2021 4:50pm

AMKC wrote: »

You do that and end up getting a clot on the squashed Ryanair seats with no legroom too. That's your choice your body.

I am a tall person with even longer legs and never had problems in Ryanair planes. I find it really bizarre, how people keep repeating this nonsense.

ineedeuro · 17-05-2021 4:56pm

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I don't believe for a minute he is the sole reason for cheap flights.

Ryanair are not the sole reason for cheap flights. Plenty of airlines had tried before. Ryanair are one of the first to provide cheap flights and make an absolute fortune out of it.

They are also one of the first who went to random airports instead of the main airports to drive down cost. I don't know the exact history but you can probably point to a lot of things Ryanair did which now allows for cheap flight

Stuff like removing the instruction and putting them on back of seat etc....I think all of this came from Ryanair

ineedeuro · 17-05-2021 4:58pm

riewomann wrote: »

This is the way it should be. We should not be jetting off to Lisbon "for the weekend" (pre covid I know).

People should not be free to fly halfway around the world for for €500 quid.

The aviation industry needs to be taxed into oblivion.

Want to go to Portugal? Yeah next sailing is tomorrow morning at 8, bring a book.

I guess this is to do with green agenda?
They done research and a plane load full of people flying from London to Glasgow(I think it was) released less CO2 than all of those people driving up to Glasgow in cars.

Plus boats have horrendous CO2 outputs

riewomann · 17-05-2021 4:59pm

fvp4 wrote: »

Why tax? Why not give one return ticket per person per year, including business people?

the top 10% do most of the flying and higher tax won't help there.

You might also want to read up on the misery of getting off this island pre cheap flights.

Yeah you're right, maybe a system where each flight doubles in cost.

ie first flight 1x price
second flight 2x price
third flight 3x price

Anything to reduce the environmental impact of all these unnecessary flights.

Michael O'Leary has probably done more damage to our environment than all the coal burning power plants in China combined.

Gregor Samsa · 17-05-2021 5:28pm

newuser99999 wrote: »

Go to Canada and try to get a cheap flight then. Upwards of €600 for a flight the same distance as Dublin to Warsaw.

Skyscanner has flights from Toronto to Vancouver listed from €59, which is a 5 hour (3361km) flight. 1000km further than Dublin to Warsaw.

17-05-2021 5:31pm

JoChervil wrote: »

I am a tall person with even longer legs and never had problems in Ryanair planes. I find it really bizarre, how people keep repeating this nonsense.

There is slightly more room on an Are Lingus plane, but not much.

17-05-2021 5:35pm

Hyperbollix wrote: »

He's like Trump if Trump

......had'nt incited a mob on the White House

Ubbquittious · 17-05-2021 5:37pm

riewomann wrote: »

Yeah you're right, maybe a system where each flight doubles in cost.

ie first flight 1x price
second flight 2x price
third flight 3x price

Anything to reduce the environmental impact of all these unnecessary flights.

Michael O'Leary has probably done more damage to our environment than all the coal burning power plants in China combined.

Ireland emits 0.1% of world total

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

Coal seam fires worldwide emit 3%, most of it in China. So the coal that doesn't even make it to the power plant aready emits a lot more

Some of Ryanair's emmissions probably fall under UK but that whole country is still only emits 1% of total.

This auld squabbling over people taking a few flights or perhaps deciding to buy a car with a 6 litre engine doesn't even register on the scale. We could all decide to go on 5 foreign holidays a year and start driving Aston Martins and it would make feck all difference to EU emissions, in the long run it won't even stop the downward trend of Ireland's emissions because all the old fuel burning power plants are being phased out and these cause the bulk of our emissions.

Micheal O' Leary: What a fu-cking whinge bag.

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