carers allowance application process

lulu1 · 03-09-2019 10:43pm

This is definitely not a job for an au pair Its a job for family members even if there were 2 or 3 to share the workload .

Yea a person on carers allowance is allowed to work 15 hours per week outside the home but they must ensure that there is someone to look after the patient while they are not there

We have done it ourselves for 3 years and I am talking about around the clock to the point of exaustion, we just couldn't let them go into a home and when the end came we were so happy that we did it..

Ace2007 · 04-09-2019 10:27am

lulu1 wrote: »

This is definitely not a job for an au pair Its a job for family members even if there were 2 or 3 to share the workload .

Yea a person on carers allowance is allowed to work 15 hours per week outside the home but they must ensure that there is someone to look after the patient while they are not there

We have done it ourselves for 3 years and I am talking about around the clock to the point of exaustion, we just couldn't let them go into a home and when the end came we were so happy that we did it..

It’s not the thread for it but will just make a couple of comments.

1. It’s happening and these Au Pairs in many instances have experience with working with the elderly/their own grandparents in their own country and know what they are getting into - there are contracts and agencies involved to ensure there is no abuse or they can leave etc.

2. A family member may be less/equally qualified as an Au Pair, a family member may not want to do it but feel they have to because of other family members - why is it ok for an unqualified family member to do it but not an Au Pair who is willing to do it? I would really like this question to be answered? What happens if there is only 1 family member? It’s easy if there are 3/4 people. Everyone circumstances are different.

3. If it’s a job for family members only - do you say that home help shouldn’t be doing these roles either? Or is that ok because they come through a company and so assumed they are the right people to look after your loved one?

Looking after someone who needs full time care, is a exhausting, can lead to stress, depression, anxiety etc, I was merely pointing out ways to make it easier if people are at their wits ends, which many are.

You say that you did it for 3 years, could you have done it for 10 years? - would your other half/children been ok if your life was on hold for 10 years? What happens if you were looking for a mortgage - as per the OP that I replied to ? If you can’t get a mortgage because of the issue then it becomes and even bigger problem and can put pressure of marriages/finances.

It’s great that you did it for 3 years, but everyone’s life and situation is different - and all I did was put a option to help with.

Like I said it’s not that thread for it - but to attack me for point out options to help is out of line - who are you to state who should be looking after a person in their old age?

DeadParrot · 04-09-2019 10:29am

Hey folks, interesting conversation to follow but no a goer as we have an apartment for us, my daughter and Father in Law.
We simply don't have the room for a carer.
Will look into respite and stuff for the wife and hope something works out. Will also look into Home Support Services.
Cheers

lulu1 · 04-09-2019 10:44pm

Ace2007 wrote: »

It’s not the thread for it but will just make a couple of comments.

1. It’s happening and these Au Pairs in many instances have experience with working with the elderly/their own grandparents in their own country and know what they are getting into - there are contracts and agencies involved to ensure there is no abuse or they can leave etc.

2. A family member may be less/equally qualified as an Au Pair, a family member may not want to do it but feel they have to because of other family members - why is it ok for an unqualified family member to do it but not an Au Pair who is willing to do it? I would really like this question to be answered? What happens if there is only 1 family member? It’s easy if there are 3/4 people. Everyone circumstances are different.

3. If it’s a job for family members only - do you say that home help shouldn’t be doing these roles either? Or is that ok because they come through a company and so assumed they are the right people to look after your loved one?

Looking after someone who needs full time care, is a exhausting, can lead to stress, depression, anxiety etc, I was merely pointing out ways to make it easier if people are at their wits ends, which many are.

You say that you did it for 3 years, could you have done it for 10 years? - would your other half/children been ok if your life was on hold for 10 years? What happens if you were looking for a mortgage - as per the OP that I replied to ? If you can’t get a mortgage because of the issue then it becomes and even bigger problem and can put pressure of marriages/finances.

It’s great that you did it for 3 years, but everyone’s life and situation is different - and all I did was put a option to help with.

Like I said it’s not that thread for it - but to attack me for point out options to help is out of line - who are you to state who should be looking after a person in their old age?

I dont know why you are saying i attacked you All I said was i dont think Au pairs were suitable for the job but that is my opinion

Shelle1234. · 26-09-2019 7:17pm

Hi guys. Sorry to jump on the thread. I have posted this separately but I never seem to get replies so not sure I'm posting it in the right place. For that reason I tagged it on to the end of the most recent post I could find ..this one. Apologies if I shouldn't have done that, if anyone could help it would be hugely appreciated. Thanks xx

Hi, I was wondering if anyone can help please, my husband applied to be my carer. We got a letter in the post this morning letting us know it had been turned down on medical grounds, while I need help with some things I don't need constant help. Basically i suffer from sever refractory depression and generalised anxiety disorder. I've been on disability many years but over the years the condition has gotten worse and worse. My husband has been out of work for a year now looking after me and our two kids but we only applied for carers in May as I suppose we never thought things wouldn't get better...but they arent. The problem is that when my husband is around I don't cope very well to the point that while he was working I've had numerous suicide attempts. He does the majority of what is needed in the house but I feel the problem is because I can wash myself l, make a sandwich etc if I feel like it I'm not seen as a person in need but what about the part of the part of the requirement that states "or continual supervision in order to avoid being a danger to themselves"?? Does this not cover exactly what I'm talking about ?? If you think it does do you have any input into how I word the review I'm looking for based on this. I had originally provided gp reports and all information requested but had been honest and said that depression isn't always physical (although can cause many physical barriers, ie won't go out without my hudband. Can't take kids to school, interaction with parents and teachers etc. Don't always feel up to cooking, washing, cleaning, shopping etc) and I wonder if this is the problem.

Gosh basically I'm just wondering if anyone has any advice on how best to word and present the review given my condition ?? Would a letter from me explaining my needs helpt at all do you think ?? I realise I've given a fair bit of personal info but feel there is little point asking what I'm asking without a bit of background. I'm genuinely in such a state over this, haven't stopped crying all day and you can imagine where my head is at. Without the carers allowance we simply can't afford to live and I'm terrified my husband will need to go back to work. At the risk of sounding dramatic, I would be dead within six months. I just couldn't cope.

Many thanks in advance and please try not to be judgmental with me. Xx

kathleen37 · 28-09-2019 9:24am

go back to your gp or your consultant as you need to appeal and they need to help with that all the best

Shelle1234. · 29-09-2019 12:46pm

Thanks for that kathleen37, I have been on to my go, psychiatrist and my local td in order to get help with review or appeal. I just wasn't sure how to word a letter from myself to put along with it. I think it's all being sorted and I've had some help now though. Thank you so much for your reply it's very much appreciated xx

triona1 · 23-10-2019 2:03am

When my son was 6 he was dx with ty1 diabetes and the hospital social worker sorted carers/dca/respite grant his 17 nearly 18 now but if its any help next hospital visit ask to speak to the social worker all id to do was sign my name!i got half rate carer's because of my husband's wages.hth

triona1 · 23-10-2019 2:07am

Reading back you can also get help for a spouse

triona1 · 23-10-2019 2:10am

Splinter65 may help with this.

He/she is in the social welfare forum. Can't link on my phone.

JimmyAlfonso · 01-10-2020 1:47pm

splinter65 wrote: »

Anything over €900 gross is too much.

Sorry to dig up an older thread but this is the relevant piece I want to query something before I get on the 6 months waiting list and splinter seems to know the score.

Let's say I'm bringing in gross €920/week roughly. I'm married and my wife has had to start caring for her mother recently and we have 2 small kids. From reading citizens information I read it that the means test amount would be (920-665)/2 =127.50

Carer's allowance + child = €219 + €36 = €255 p.w. less €127.50 means test income = €127.50 p.w. carers allowance.

Is that too crude a calc? Or am I missing something?

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