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Should nuts in school be banned for the small % who have "nut allergies"

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    #362
    beejee
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    khalessi wrote: »
    What is?

    The flavour of lesser-seen scrotal-absent geese, should it be banned.


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    #363
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    beejee wrote: »
    The flavour of lesser-seen scrotal-absent geese, should it be banned.

    Ahh wrong thread for that, you need wildlife thread


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    #364
    beejee
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    khalessi wrote: »
    Ahh wrong thread for that, you need wildlife thread

    I don't think you know where you are. Read the threads title :p


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    #365
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    beejee wrote: »
    I don't think you know where you are. Read the threads title :p

    i did and you mentioned geese:D


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    #366
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    khalessi wrote: »
    Could you tell me what a fake nut allergy is as no child in my school has a fake nut allergy however we do have about 15 with actual nut allergies.

    Do you know many people who use their children to fake life threatening conditions as that is a medical condition called munchausen by proxy and needs treatment, please advise them of this

    Unless there are over 1000 kids in your school then 15 kids is statistically too high so more than likely there are a few self diagnoses in there.


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    #367
    khalessi
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    Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »
    Unless there are over 1000 kids in your school then 15 kids is statistically too high so more than likely there are a few self diagnoses in there.

    I teach in a very large school and statistics don't account for people moving districts


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    beejee wrote: »
    It would be as practical as banning pollen.

    The sheer number of exposure possibilities is too great to account, especially when trusted to a majority population of children.

    Nice idea, but completely impractical.

    Thank you


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    #369
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »
    Likewise, all you will be entitled to is "I'm sorry my child requires nuts as part of their vegan diet".

    If your child wasn’t vegan, would you sacrifice their preferred dietary preferences to make a point? What if they don’t like nutty things?


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    #370
    beejee
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    Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »
    Unless there are over 1000 kids in your school then 15 kids is statistically too high so more than likely there are a few self diagnoses in there.

    I've always wanted to talk with a goat statistics specialist. But I don't know what to say now.


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    khalessi wrote: »
    I teach in a very large school and statistics don't account for people moving districts

    I hope you’re not a maths or economics teacher


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    beejee wrote: »
    I've always wanted to talk with a goat statistics specialist. But I don't know what to say now.

    I thought we were still on geese


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    #373
    beejee
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    If your child wasn’t vegan, would you sacrifice their preferred dietary preferences to make a point? What if they don’t like nutty things?

    Touche.

    However, equally, if your vegan wasnt a child... Don't you think?


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    #374
    khalessi
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    Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »
    I hope you’re not a maths or economics teacher

    Are you implying that people should not move their children in order to fit your narrow view. As I said I teach in a very large school perhaps I should have added a second very

    and we successfully implement a nut ban which all the children and parents adhere to for the wellbeing of their children and their friends.


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    #375
    khalessi
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    Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »
    Unless there are over 1000 kids in your school then 15 kids is statistically too high so more than likely there are a few self diagnoses in there.

    Oh to allay your worries they are all medically diagnosed and have epi pens, thank you for your concerns


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    #376
    beejee
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    Tickers wrote: »
    I thought we were still on geese

    I strongly belive I'm the only person atop several geese at this moment in ireland. An evening of a Thursday spent sitting on geese is not be missed, and is nothing to poo poo out of hand.


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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    beejee wrote: »
    It would be as practical as banning pollen.

    The sheer number of exposure possibilities is too great to account, especially when trusted to a majority population of children.

    Nice idea, but completely impractical.

    Not everything can be controlled. But some things can be and should be.


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    If your child wasn’t vegan, would you sacrifice their preferred dietary preferences to make a point? What if they don’t like nutty things?

    I mean, you’re a blatant WUM but you’re making yourself look silly, so I’m happy enough to ask you questions.

    Your question doesn’t make any sense. “If my child wasn’t a vegan, something something, nut allergy, statistics”


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    #379
    khalessi
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    beejee wrote: »
    It would be as practical as banning pollen.

    The sheer number of exposure possibilities is too great to account, especially when trusted to a majority population of children.

    Nice idea, but completely impractical.

    Just to reply to this children sometimes are your best allies. They tell on each other, teacher Ticker brought peanuts to prove a point or ticker has choc spread on his lunch. Its usually the choc spread and the lunch is put back in the lunchbox parent rang and another lunch is sent to school

    Has never been a problem


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    khalessi wrote: »
    Just to reply to this children sometimes are your best allies. They tell on each other, teacher Ticker brought peanuts to prove a point or ticker has choc spread on his lunch. Its usually the choc spread and the lunch is put back in the lunchbox parent rang and another lunch is sent to school

    Has never been a problem

    Snitches get stitches


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    #381
    beejee
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Not everything can be controlled. But some things can be and should be.

    For the edification of geese fanciers everywhere, may I introduce....the negligible sentence?


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    #382
    decky1
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    At what stage did this Nut Allergy thing start? when i was in school 40+ kids to a class with 6 classes [Primary School] and not one of these kids had a nut allergy, maybe we were too busy enjoying our childhood and not stuck in front of the tele etc, maybe if the kids now got up and went out to play climb trees [oh no they might fall ] start acting like children again maybe this Nut Allergy might pass.


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    #383
    khalessi
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    Alexandria Quick Doughnut wrote: »
    Snitches get stitches

    Not is schools these days or are you encouraging children beating each other up. Is that how your mother rared ya? Would you like to talk about it? this is a safe zone


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    #384
    beejee
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    khalessi wrote: »
    Just to reply to this children sometimes are your best allies. They tell on each other, teacher Ticker brought peanuts to prove a point or ticker has choc spread on his lunch. Its usually the choc spread and the lunch is put back in the lunchbox parent rang and another lunch is sent to school

    Has never been a problem

    Have you even seen Village of the Damned?


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    #385
    khalessi
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    beejee wrote: »
    Have you even seen Village of the Damned?

    Hilarious


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    #386
    ToddyDoody
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    I think there should be a quota to ensure people aren't taking the p*ss.


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    #387
    scamalert
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    khalessi wrote: »
    Naturally a parent will teach a child with an allergy that nuts are dangerous and they learn quickly as do other children who are their friends.

    This is a brief outline of what is done in a school. The parents meet with the principal, explain the situation and the school team come together to ensure that the childs needs are accomodated.

    Information is shared among the staff about children with medical conditions so they know who to watch out for. this is regardless if it is an allergy or medical condition such as CF, nut allergy, egg allergy, another allergy, asthma, diabetes, epilepsy or any other condition that could affect the child in school. the parents can speak to the staff if they wish and medical experts have come into the school to speak to all staff about the relevant condition.

    The children are also told of the importance of not bringing in certain foods to prevent a reaction. They are repeatedly told from Junior infants onward not to bring in the prohibited food and will either tell you themselves they have it or another child will. They are also encouraged not to swap lunches and a teacher is in the room as they eat watching and ensuring none of this happens.

    An epi pen is kept in the office and in the class and the teacher brings with them on each school outing.


    So wtf is the issue then here ? teachers informed school recognizes it, cant push it any harder on any other healthy kids to obide, as cross contamination will happen, maybe less in primary but come secondary child wont escape that. Ever been to colleges theres prob nut bits on every campus area.


    one has to learn live around it, the earlier the better.


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    #388
    khalessi
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    beejee wrote: »
    Have you even seen Village of the Damned?

    Ill see you and raise you

    Have you ever been in a class of 6-8 year olds:D:P Youll be told everything!!!


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    #389
    khaldrogo
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    byhookorbycrook wrote: »
    Ok, dealing with this as genuine and not a poor effort at trolling.

    Yes. Your child's desire for nuts is lovely, but does that give them the right to endanger the lives of other children?Children eat in classrooms where they are in exceptionally close contact (if your child ever had the misfortune to pick up nits, you'd realize just how close the contact is. They eat at their desks, so cross contamination for nuts and other allergies is huge.

    I've seen a child use a lip balm with nut traces go from their normal selves to gasping for breath, swollen so much their eyes were closing and turning blue. Epi-pens aren't just handed out to randomers. they are prescription only and as well as being expensive, have a short shelf life. I think your attitude in the post above is dreadful.

    So when are we banning lip balms???


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    khalessi wrote: »
    Not is schools these days or are you encouraging children beating each other up. Is that how your mother rared ya? Would you like to talk about it? this is a safe zone

    Is that what you teach kids these days? You’re building a rat shop here, a vessel of seagoing snitches.


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    khalessi
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    scamalert wrote: »
    So wtf is the issue then here ? teachers informed school recognizes it, cant push it any harder on any other healthy kids to obide, as cross contamination will happen, maybe less in primary but come secondary child wont escape that. Ever been to colleges theres prob nut bits on every campus area.


    one has to learn live around it, the earlier the better.

    In college the person with a nut allergy is an adult and better able to be their own advocate until then the teachers are parents in lieu during school time and advocate for them including banning nuts and nut products such as peanut butter from school

    There is no issue apart from the kick up ye make here.


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