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Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

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    #2612
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    It was his financial demands that killed any chance he had of getting the Mayo job. Dont know who's footing the bill in Roscommon though

    Those are pretty astonishing figures if factual.


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    #2613
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    It was his financial demands that killed any chance he had of getting the Mayo job. Dont know who's footing the bill in Roscommon though

    A well known Roscommon born developer seemingly.


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    #2614
    megadodge
    Registered Users Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭megadodge


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Those are pretty astonishing figures if factual.

    Factual stories and GAA just don't hand in hand - especially the week after a bad championship defeat.


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    #2615
    Rawhead
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Rawhead


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Those are pretty astonishing figures if factual.

    Not really. Know of inter county managers getting nearly twice that 10 years ago.


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    #2616
    spiralism
    Registered Users Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    megadodge wrote: »
    I have to agree with 'corny' here. The players really have to look at themselves.

    Almost all of them performed to a level far, far below what we know they're capable of in both the replay and yesterday. Some of the fundamentals were so bad that you must wonder about the mindset of the players.

    Now, some might say that points to unrest in the camp, etc. but my way of thinking has always been, it doesn't matter if you like your manager or not, it doesn't matter if you like your teammates or not, you have been picked to represent your county and you go out and do your absolute best no matter what the background or circumstances are.

    It might sound harsh, but I really didn't think that was the case in the first half yesterday. The ease with which Clare players ran past Roscommon players was just shocking. It was boys and men. It honestly looked like a lot of them just weren't tuned in or really pushing themselves. In fairness they upped it in the second half, but that was the way they should be in all matches, all the time. Your performance levels become a habit the more often you do them.

    In relation to the league performances and teams picked, the reason people were so surprised by Roscommon was because there were so many injuries. In spite of that Roscommon won games they weren't expected to with teams you knew weren't full strength. And in truth we still don't have a full-strength outfit on the field, but that doesn't excuse the last few performances.

    Saw quite a number of the panel out after the Clare game actually. They just didn't seem to care and were acting like the season had ended the week before against Galway.

    Once again, it's apparent that the main issue with football in roscommon is mentality above all else. It's very difficult to see how this can be changed, or if it can be.


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    #2617
    RoscommonTom
    Registered Users Posts: 918 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    they looked like they didnt give a ****, at least under Evans they had a bit more fight to them, they might get the boot down to division 2 next year, we need Niall daly back and a fit Collins, if fellas are fond of the pints they should be kicked off the panel and not left there causing trouble


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    #2618
    harpsman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭harpsman


    megadodge wrote: »
    Factual stories and GAA just don't hand in hand - especially the week after a bad championship defeat.
    Heard there were a few of the better known players out drinking in Boyle the night before the replay.

    Oh, and apparently a massive row in the dressing room before game. And after.


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    #2619
    megadodge
    Registered Users Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭megadodge


    harpsman wrote: »
    Heard there were a few of the better known players out drinking in Boyle the night before the replay.

    Oh, and apparently a massive row in the dressing room before game. And after.

    The only bit you forgot is - "and i know that for a fact"!!!


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    #2620
    Bunny Colvin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    harpsman wrote: »
    Heard there were a few of the better known players out drinking in Boyle the night before the replay.

    Oh, and apparently a massive row in the dressing room before game. And after.

    Obviously can't say that you're wrong harpsman but I'd have an awful hard time believing that. Your average junior B player wouldn't be at that.


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    #2621
    Comic Book Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    About as dispiriting an end to a championship as could be hoped for.

    We looked a beaten docket from as early as the first Clare attack when they just walked through the centre of our defence almost unopposed. While I'm sure the management team will take a lot of flak as has been said earlier a lot of players need to ask themselves they did give their all last Saturday and if not why.

    We looked flat, disinterested and playing without a purpose. It was a hammering in every facet with the exception of the score board which in no way reflects the game itself. As was the general trend of the game when we undeservedly got back into the game midway through the second half we showed no desire to move up a few gears and take the game by the scruff of the neck.

    A lot of soul searching to be done by players and management. Hopefully a lot of lessons are learned and they are both better as a group for the experience. Would be a real shame if this group don't approach what we think/know their actual potential is........


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    #2622
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Ever hear the joke about the county player?
    A county player walks into a bar and has a lucozade with his friends
    Next day 200 people swear they saw him on the booze


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    #2623
    Hershall
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭Hershall


    harpsman wrote: »
    megadodge wrote: »
    Factual stories and GAA just don't hand in hand - especially the week after a bad championship defeat.
    Heard there were a few of the better known players out drinking in Boyle the night before the replay.

    Oh, and apparently a massive row in the dressing room before game. And after.

    Are you sure the row wasnt on the bus on the way down


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    #2624
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Hershall wrote: »
    Are you sure the row wasnt on the bus on the way down

    that was the Boyle crowd last year, duh


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    #2625
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Bunny Colvin wrote: »
    Obviously can't say that you're wrong harpsman but I'd have an awful hard time believing that. Your average junior B player wouldn't be at that.

    Neither would they have got up to the nonsense that the Senior team got up to under John Tobin


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    #2626
    padd b1975
    Registered Users Posts: 10,703 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Trouble in paradise lads?

    According to RTE sports news this morning, the dream team are meeting the county board this week.

    Bit late for an end of year review surely..


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    #2627
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Trouble in paradise lads?

    According to RTE sports news this morning, the dream team are meeting the county board this week.

    Bit late for an end of year review surely..

    O'Donnell is gone.


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    #2628
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    cocoman wrote: »
    O'Donnell is gone.

    Is Kevin McStay staying on?


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    #2629
    cocoman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Is Kevin McStay staying on?

    From RTE - Only Kevin McStsy & McHale remaining. Others gone.


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    #2630
    Stationmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    O'Donnell's statement mentioned something along the lines of him going and saving the county the hassle of a leadership contest between himself and McStay - there has obviously been a split somewhere along the way - did this happy during the playing season or just in the last few days?


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    #2631
    PressRun
    Registered Users Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Honestly, I would say it's been brewing throughout the year. These things rarely happen over night. I would imagine they came to realise that they had different ideas and approaches the more they worked together. Interesting that O'Donnell was the one to walk and not McStay and McHale though. His statement mentioned people outside the group of players and management having something to do with it. County board issues perhaps?


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    #2632
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Stationmaster wrote: »
    O'Donnell's statement mentioned something along the lines of him going and saving the county the hassle of a leadership contest between himself and McStay - there has obviously been a split somewhere along the way - did this happy during the playing season or just in the last few days?

    Eamon O Hara mentioned to John Murray on Morning Ireland today that there had been a split along county lines and Liam McHale had involvement had been restricted or something to that affect.


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    #2633
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Stationmaster wrote: »
    O'Donnell's statement mentioned something along the lines of him going and saving the county the hassle of a leadership contest between himself and McStay - there has obviously been a split somewhere along the way - did this happy during the playing season or just in the last few days?

    Bit more clarity in this link.


    http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0907/814748-fergal-odonnell-roscommon/


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    #2634
    megadodge
    Registered Users Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Cue the rumour mill going into mental overdrive....


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    #2635
    blazermel
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 144 ✭✭blazermel


    Roscommon GAA open nominations for new manager. #rosgaa #gaa

    http://ow.ly/Xsu3303ZViW


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    #2636
    ProudDUB
    Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    An open competition?

    Jesus Christ.

    What is the current (solo) incumbent supposed to think about that?

    Talk about a soap opera !


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    #2637
    blazermel
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 144 ✭✭blazermel


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    An open competition?

    Jesus Christ.

    What is the current (solo) incumbent supposed to think about that.

    Talk about a soap opera !

    I would hope that maybe this is just the formal way it has to be done given that McStay was on the joint management ticket that was ratified last year so he would have to apply for the job outright etc. But I didn't think it was going to be opened up to all...thought/hoped it might have been more a formality. Crazy stuff yet again.


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    #2638
    MfMan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭MfMan


    All looking very omnibus for the Rossies!


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    #2639
    blazermel
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 144 ✭✭blazermel


    Roscommon GAA Facebook page posted 12 mins ago:

    The reason that we have opened nominations is that last year the clubs ratified a joint management, that's gone. Board must follow proper procedures


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    #2640
    yabadabado
    Registered Users Posts: 16,520 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    I presume its just a formality.McStay will be nominated unopposed .


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    #2641
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Real shame Fergal O Donnell has stepped down. He always struck me as a very decent GAA man with the interests of Roscommon as his top priority.He has given outstanding long term service to same as a player and manager at various grades.


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