M7 roadworks speeds vans from Monday

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

I can’t see the risk for workers behind the steel barrier.

My opinion is that the low limit is to allow the dumpster trucks pull out into traffic.

Ps the signs “my dad works here” are sexist against mothers.

What about "my 2nd cousin works here"
Or
"My transsexual grandmothers work here"

arsebiscuits82 wrote: »

60kph is too low and hard to stick to. Yes it's a busy road but Glasgow was way worse than Kildare. We had a few small tips but nothing major.

Whatever about your opinion about the right speed limit, if you can't keep a car under/around a speed limit, you really need to consider driving lessons. Or giving up driving. Don't make excuses.

Would the vans have to go on the left side of the road in the direction of travel or could they go on the works area?

LIGHTNING wrote: »

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

So why not have countrywide 30. Surely getting road fatalities down to zero would warrant this?
Limit all vehicles and have massive enforcement.

Going on your logic lets have a nationwide speed limit of 5. Then road fatalities would drop to near zero.

I know he's joking, as are you, but no-one would dare apply the same facetiousness to drinks driving limits, so why is is OK with speed limits?

Probably more to to with drivers ability to keep a car out of the barrier at 120kph when overtaking a truck or bus, than the workers safety if a car does glance a barrier.

Works vehicles going in and out of the site are probably a concern too as they have to accelerate up to speed but can only do so when they're in the lane.

amcalester wrote: »

I bet 60 km/h is fast enough from the perspective of the workers.

Wailin wrote: »

Have you driven that stretch of road? You do realise the workers are protected by large steel barriers yes?

These would be the invisible workers on Saturdays and Sundays?


Ridiculous that they haven't implemented shift patterns to ensure 7-day works on this project - it's one of the busiest stretches of road in the country, and one of the worst for congestion. Crazy that they aren't doing everything possible to reduce the disruption caused.

blackwhite wrote: »

These would be the invisible workers on Saturdays and Sundays?


Ridiculous that they haven't implemented shift patterns to ensure 7-day works on this project - it's one of the busiest stretches of road in the country, and one of the worst for congestion. Crazy that they aren't doing everything possible to reduce the disruption caused.

C'mon this is Ireland. In this country there is no living organism further down the food chain than drivers

wonski wrote: »

Do you realize the cost of 7 days a week operation, including overtime?

The disruption will be there regardless. It was busy before the work started so let's just let them do it as planned and enjoy the result.

I fully appreciate the extra cost, but for certain key routes the cost-benefit should still weigh in favour of getting it done ASAP.

wonski wrote: »

Weekend work would cost a lot.

Let them have a life and proceed as planned.

And to hell with the thousands of commuters every day, and the costs that the economy suffers through lost time :rolleyes:

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

But would it?
Offer the consortium a couple million to finish 3 or 4 months ahead of programme. Happened plenty on much less important roads in the early 2000s

I don't understand why 24/7 working was not in tender stipulations. Unless it's to appease locals?

Been involved in many tenders and have enforced night works on contractors.

That or put it to 80 or 90 after hours.

And completely agree with 60 during work hours.

Try getting dopey truck drivers in off a motorway for a day and your blood pressure may never recover

Charles Babbage wrote: »

What is the cost of 80,000 vehicles being held up?

I don't know. Cost me and most commuters nothing.

Slowing down to 60 doesn't increase fuel consumption nor slow the country down as much.

California Dreamer wrote: »

Southbound M7 last night at about 8pm. Northbound about 3am. No sign of any Go Safe van. There was a lot of very fast cars going by!

I'll do what I normally do, just keep an eye out for brake lights in the distance.

Works for all sorts of hazards and speed cameras., and general good road craft.

wonski wrote: »

I don't know. Cost me and most commuters nothing.

Slowing down to 60 doesn't increase fuel consumption nor slow the country down as much.

If delays do not cause a problem, then why are they widening the road?

I travelled this stretch outbound last night. Decided to do the 60, so sat behind a truck and ambled along. Traffic wasn't that heavy, and about 15 cars passed me the full length of the roadworks, none of them doing any crazy speed (80-100 I'd say).

As soon as the roadworks ended at junction 11, I went straight back up to 120 and cruised along. By Junction 13. I had overtaken at least 8 of the cars that passed me earlier. They were all still doing the 80-100. I'd say half of them hadn't even noticed that the roadworks had finished (or maybe that they even existed in the first place).

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Agreed, as much as everyone hates them they're a necessity sometimes.

Now it'll just be a race between the speed vans and know locations though. What's needed are average speed cameras covering the full stretch as is often done in England. Signpost it well, and no bad feeling if you're caught.

In the US, "traffic fines doubled in construction zone" is a common sign, and the same should apply here.

Agreed,but why not work as in the UK, nightime/weekends

To be fair the AGS Traffic Division on social media have posted numerous times warning motorists that there are two speed vans consecutively in operation on that stretch of road and not to speed up after passing the first one. Some people only learn one way.