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12-05-2019 10:01am

The chocolate peanut butter one

Brian? · 12-05-2019 10:49am

bluewolf wrote: »

The chocolate peanut butter one

Deadly. Sounds savage.

Very hard to find Fulfil bars here, hard to go to Holland and Barrett.

bladespin · 13-05-2019 11:46am

Brian? wrote: »

Deadly. Sounds savage.

They are

though I still kinda prefer the peanut caramel bar.

Brian? wrote: »

Very hard to find Fulfil bars here, hard to go to Holland and Barrett.

Circle K have them, often on special. (not sure where you're at tho)

Alf Veedersane · 13-05-2019 12:14pm

Seems to be a €2 offer on Fulfil bars in some places the last few days. Local Spar has them. Saw a poster for the same somewhere else as well but can't remember.

Neither useful to Brian? as I think he's out fordin.

Kevhog1988 · 13-05-2019 12:18pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Hell of an achievement by James Cracknell to earn a place and compete in The Boat Race at a couple of weeks shy of 47 and 13 years after he retired. And given the cycling accident about 8 years ago.

he has some cv of completing amazing feats. The marathon de sable and trek to the North Pole were great to watch.

Alf Veedersane · 13-05-2019 2:32pm

theemigrant wrote: »

he has some cv of completing amazing feats. The marathon de sable and trek to the North South Pole were great to watch.

True. I just thought it was mental that he could get himself to a level of fitness to earn himself a seat. But yeah some collection of achievements

Brian? · 13-05-2019 3:35pm

bladespin wrote: »

They are though I still kinda prefer the peanut caramel bar.

Circle K have them, often on special. (not sure where you're at tho)

Eindhoven in the Netherlands. But thanks

Brian? · 13-05-2019 3:39pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Seems to be a €2 offer on Fulfil bars in some places the last few days. Local Spar has them. Saw a poster for the same somewhere else as well but can't remember.

Neither useful to Brian? as I think he's out fordin.

Can’t get a fulfill bar, but there’s a man selling soup from a cargo bike in my estate. He rings a bell and roars “Soup!” Repeatedly. It’s definitely the weirdest thing about living here. Some people thing it’s the drugs and the hookers, but it’s actually the soup man.

Today is pumpkin or tomato.

Alf Veedersane · 13-05-2019 4:41pm

Brian? wrote: »

Can’t get a fulfill bar, but there’s a man selling soup from a cargo bike in my estate. He rings a bell and roars “Soup!” Repeatedly. It’s definitely the weirdest thing about living here. Some people thing it’s the drugs and the hookers, but it’s actually the soup man.

Today is pumpkin or tomato.

Is it protein soup though?

D'Agger · 13-05-2019 7:31pm

Got to try the new fulfil today also for €2 was delicious

Got myprotein salted caramel flavour recently and love it - really light on flavour, great with peanut butter, bananna or just with strawberries/blueberries

13-05-2019 7:33pm

bluewolf wrote: »

The chocolate peanut butter one

I pronounce this bar Very Tasty
Up there with Orange as top flavours for me now

el Fenomeno · 13-05-2019 8:35pm

Salted Caramel for me. ****ing exquisite.

Brian? · 13-05-2019 9:03pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Is it protein soup though?

He said he could add some protein if I gave him a few minutes. I declined.

Alf Veedersane · 13-05-2019 9:05pm

Brian? wrote: »

He said he could add some protein if I gave him a few minutes. I declined.

Couldn't help but think of this:

Mars Bar · 14-05-2019 7:12am

Carrefour appear to be phasing out Fulfil bars here in Abu Dhabi which is a shame as they were the cheapest prices. I always grab a handful when I get a chance. No sign of the PB one but that'll be the 1st thing I pick up at Dublin Airport if they have them!

silverharp · 17-05-2019 11:50am

never too old, age 81

https://twitter.com/carlosraw1/status/1129052485845491713

silverharp · 26-05-2019 8:02am

https://twitter.com/SirajAHashmi/status/1132119639738257408

Alf Veedersane · 10-06-2019 6:47pm

Wierzbicki pulls 417kg at 97kg. Beltless

https://gfycat.com/tangibleunfortunateflea

Alf Veedersane · 23-06-2019 10:27pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Wierzbicki pulls 417kg at 97kg. Beltless

https://gfycat.com/tangibleunfortunateflea

...and then 432.5kg at 98kg at a deadlift challenge

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzBWNMfBugC/?igshid=tsdr7f2lpvs

silverharp · 24-06-2019 9:51am

Are these kind of llifters risking long term damage to their bones and joints long term?

Mr. CooL ICE · 24-06-2019 10:00am

silverharp wrote: »

Are these kind of llifters risking long term damage to their bones and joints long term?

Maybe. Maybe not. Depends.

But no more so than any other elite level athlete who does whatever it takes to be the best at their respective sport.

Brian? · 24-06-2019 10:30am

silverharp wrote: »

Are these kind of llifters risking long term damage to their bones and joints long term?

Bones, probably not. Joints, maybe. But they have nothing like the injury rate of NFL players.

Alf Veedersane · 24-06-2019 1:35pm

silverharp wrote: »

Are these kind of llifters risking long term damage to their bones and joints long term?

Most elite level competitors will likely pay a price in the long term but they know that and they'd willingly pay that price to get to elite level, for the most part.

Zillah · 24-06-2019 2:09pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Wierzbicki pulls 417kg at 97kg. Beltless

https://gfycat.com/tangibleunfortunateflea

What intrigues me from a purely physics point of view is that the bar bends so much here that it's got to make the motion much easier than if there was a bar that didn't bend.

Like, hypothetically, if you replaced the thin steel bar/weights with just a thick bar of, like, (super heavy) depleted uranium, for the exact same weight, this would be a much harder lift, right?

Brian? · 24-06-2019 2:17pm

Brian? wrote: »

Bones, probably not. Joints, maybe. But they have nothing like the injury rate of NFL players.

30 minutes after writing this i got a back spasm doing pendlay rows. Ooohhh the irony.

Alf Veedersane · 24-06-2019 2:29pm

Zillah wrote: »

What intrigues me from a purely physics point of view is that the bar bends so much here that it's got to make the motion much easier than if there was a bar that didn't bend.

Like, hypothetically, if you replaced the thin steel bar/weights with just a thick bar of, like, (super heavy) depleted uranium, for the exact same weight, this would be a much harder lift, right?

Yes. A deadlift bar has more whip and should allow you to lift more.

Some feds use a deadlift bar, some don't.

Mr. CooL ICE · 24-06-2019 2:30pm

Zillah wrote: »

What intrigues me from a purely physics point of view is that the bar bends so much here that it's got to make the motion much easier than if there was a bar that didn't bend.

Like, hypothetically, if you replaced the thin steel bar/weights with just a thick bar of, like, (super heavy) depleted uranium, for the exact same weight, this would be a much harder lift, right?

It's a deadlift bar. It's thinner and longer so help create the bend and generally designed to make it easier to get it off the ground. Once it's in your hands, it weighs the same as a stiff bar.

Not all feds use one. IPF uses a stiff power bar for all three lifts. But at that weight, stiff bars still have a little bend but it's just nowhere near as pronounced.

Not everyone gets more from a deadlift bar though. If your deadlift style is a grindy one with an obvious sticking point, then the bar will whip and essentially bounce up and down in your hands and pull you out of position. If you're a snappy deadlifter like Wierbicki, Belkin or Woolam, then it should help.

Personally, I'm too weak for a deadlift bar to make a difference.

silverharp · 25-06-2019 12:45pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Most elite level competitors will likely pay a price in the long term but they know that and they'd willingly pay that price to get to elite level, for the most part.

For sure obviously different if someone is making a career out of something, im just curious if data can be gleaned from them in terms of limits where risks to long term injury increases. I'd assume it's a complicated question, age being one factor and frequency being another.
I saw a comment by someone recently where they said they only dead lifted up to x2 their body weight but went higher doing hex bar.

Deano7788 · 25-06-2019 1:01pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

...and then 432.5kg at 98kg at a deadlift challenge

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzBWNMfBugC/?igshid=tsdr7f2lpvs

And now he's signed up for the ABS Pro in August

.

Alf Veedersane · 25-06-2019 1:22pm

silverharp wrote: »

I saw a comment by someone recently where they said they only dead lifted up to x2 their body weight but went higher doing hex bar.

That would make sense. They're not a direct comparison - leverages are different on hex bar compared with conventional deadlift.

People will also squat more with a low bar set up than a high bar (for the vast majority)

whippet · 26-06-2019 3:21pm

Zillah wrote: »

What intrigues me from a purely physics point of view is that the bar bends so much here that it's got to make the motion much easier than if there was a bar that didn't bend.

Like, hypothetically, if you replaced the thin steel bar/weights with just a thick bar of, like, (super heavy) depleted uranium, for the exact same weight, this would be a much harder lift, right?

my best deadlift (which is in a permanent state of going no where) is exactly the same on an Eliko Comp power bar as it is on a Sakari (sic) deadlift bar. From talking to some of the bigger lifters the 'whip' only really starts to make big differences from about 300kg upwards.

Brian? · 26-06-2019 5:14pm

silverharp wrote: »

For sure obviously different if someone is making a career out of something, im just curious if data can be gleaned from them in terms of limits where risks to long term injury increases. I'd assume it's a complicated question, age being one factor and frequency being another.
I saw a comment by someone recently where they said they only dead lifted up to x2 their body weight but went higher doing hex bar.

A trap bar deadlift isn’t a real deadlift. It’s a very different movement

Alf Veedersane · 26-06-2019 6:17pm

whippet wrote: »

From talking to some of the bigger lifters the 'whip' only really starts to make big differences from about 300kg upwards.

And that makes sense, logically. Heavy enough that you can benefit from enough whip before the plates break the floor.

Mellor · 26-06-2019 11:18pm

Using with bumpers makes deadlifting easier in a similar fashion to deadlift bars. Combine the two to compound the whip.

Mickiemcfist · 27-06-2019 12:35pm

Rather than start a new thread - I'm attempting to return to going to the gym frequently & doing weights. I'm having real trouble with stamina & strength starting out. Even 3 sets of 8 dumbbell presses are only possible with 17.5kg when I used to do double that weight handily enough. Same with Squats, dropped from 105kg to 50.

I used to be c. 16 stone with a decent amount of muscle (not shredded, but solid) In the mean time I've started cycling to work & lost nearly 2 stone just by not keeping up the gym routine & the protein shakes.

Is there an ideal set/rep split to get started out? Seriously hard to get motivated when there's such a drop off in strength!

VW 1 · 27-06-2019 12:39pm

My advice (and what I've been doing recently) is start your compounds with 5 x 5 with linear progression until you plateau, then reduce reps to increase weight. Helps build a base back up before choosing another programme to get into.

caviardreams · 27-06-2019 7:20pm

Anyone know what the issue is with Flyefit in Cork being closed? Seems to be closed for a couple of week snow and the website just states "reopening soon" no date etc.

Am going to be down that way soon and was thinking roaming would come in handy but typically looks like they might be closed for some reason.

Alf Veedersane · 27-06-2019 7:33pm

caviardreams wrote: »

Anyone know what the issue is with Flyefit in Cork being closed? Seems to be closed for a couple of week snow and the website just states "reopening soon" no date etc.

Am going to be down that way soon and was thinking roaming would come in handy but typically looks like they might be closed for some reason.

Issue with electricity supply that is taking longer than expected to resolve. Not in a position to say when it will reopen yet.

Was in the Cork Examiner the other day

caviardreams · 27-06-2019 7:44pm

Cool - thanks Alf! Did contact them myself but when they didn't give a date I thought they were just being evasive, but they must genuinely not know atm.

Mellor · 04-07-2019 7:16am

Back in the gym this week after a 3 month layoff.
Fawk. I feel weak

caviardreams · 04-07-2019 8:10am

Mellor wrote: »

Back in the gym this week after a 3 month layoff.
Fawk. I feel weak

I can only imagine the DOMS! :eek::(

Mellor · 04-07-2019 2:11pm

Yeah. Because im focused on rehab it's all high rep stuff too. Quads are a little sore and it's been less than 12 hours. Not looking forward to tomorrow

Mr. CooL ICE · 04-07-2019 3:38pm

Jog my memory. Knee ligament injury kept you out?

Mellor · 05-07-2019 5:40am

Mark Rippetoe wrote: »

Jog my memory. Knee ligament injury kept you out?

Close. Meniscus tear.
Injured at the very end of March. Keyhole surgery on May 14th.

Alf Veedersane · 05-07-2019 7:20am

I don't know who doesn't love who but me and high bar...it's just tolerance. I don't know how to make the relationship work or do I just lock it in the basement and hope it eventually loves me?

It's a pity Dr Phil doesn't frequent these parts.

caviardreams · 05-07-2019 8:10am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I don't know who doesn't love who but me and high bar...it's just tolerance. I don't know how to make the relationship work or do I just lock it in the basement and hope it eventually loves me?

It's a pity Dr Phil doesn't frequent these parts.

I feel that way about low bar tbh,

Maybe we should try some partner swapping?

:D

Alf Veedersane · 05-07-2019 8:36am

caviardreams wrote: »

I feel that way about low bar tbh,

Maybe we should try some partner swapping? :D

I would if I could but I can't low bar for the next while...if ever.

Alf Veedersane · 08-07-2019 10:04pm

Clarence PRs his C&J.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzqw1O_IwMG/?igshid=d8hyk3dvk6z0

For reference, his weight is at 98.7kg as per post. Tian Tao just set a new record at -96kg of 231kg.

Dtp1979 · 08-07-2019 10:55pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Clarence PRs his C&J.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzqw1O_IwMG/?igshid=d8hyk3dvk6z0

For reference, his weight is at 98.7kg as per post. Tian Tao just set a new record at -96kg of 231kg.

Probably the greatest champion we never had

DylanJM · 09-07-2019 6:26am

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Probably the greatest champion we never had

He never competed enough for that claim to be made.

There's more to competitive weightlifting than training lifts. Many lifters have put up obscene numbers in the gym that they could never come close to on an international competition platform.

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