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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,387 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I'm happy to recognise what every English dictionary recognises, that it has two standard (correct) pronunciations. I have heard radio people using both versions in the same sentence.

    https://www.onelook.com/?w=news&ls=a


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I'm happy to recognise what every English dictionary recognises, that it has two standard (correct) pronunciations. I have heard radio people using both versions in the same sentence.

    https://www.onelook.com/?w=news&ls=a

    American pronunciation is different to ours.

    We are not based in America therefore in our realm it’s ‘news’.

    If you want to hear ‘Nooze’ there’s always WTMJ Millwaukee for you.

    Let’s cut this ‘Nooze’ crap out please.

    Attention NT 106.... AA Roadwatch, RTE Samantha Libreri.

    Please..... pretty please.....with sugar on top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    Looks like Aine Lawlor and Mary Wilson joining the team from Monday. Alongside Audrey Carvill and Rachael English. And the outnumbered Gavin Jennings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 338 ✭✭Clon63


    Just wondering what is the eationale for having 5 presumably high paid presenters for a 5 day a week 2 person show. Surely no more than 3 are needed even to alliw for sufficient "resting" of presenters or does RTE just have nowhere else to put the talent?

    Newstalk has 2 regular presenters on Breakfast. The newsreader Brian Jennings does 4 days a week from 6am to lunchtime so it seems ectravagant.

    In interviews before I think I heard the first meeting of presenters is at 5.15am and even allowing for maybe a weekly meeting after the orogramme the hours seem handy. I dont think any of the presenters have any other regular shows on RTE.

    Would be interesting to see the salaries of the 5 presenters for their average 2 day week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Clon63 wrote: »
    Just wondering what is the eationale for having 5 presumably high paid presenters for a 5 day a week 2 person show. Surely no more than 3 are needed even to alliw for sufficient "resting" of presenters or does RTE just have nowhere else to put the talent?

    Newstalk has 2 regular presenters on Breakfast. The newsreader Brian Jennings does 4 days a week from 6am to lunchtime so it seems ectravagant.

    In interviews before I think I heard the first meeting of presenters is at 5.15am and even allowing for maybe a weekly meeting after the orogramme the hours seem handy. I dont think any of the presenters have any other regular shows on RTE.

    Would be interesting to see the salaries of the 5 presenters for their average 2 day week

    Very interesting.......indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Listening now about the two girls who spent an overnight before being rescued by a fisherman, I am thinking they were not particularly well served by the official rescue services. They could see the official rescue parties and must have been devastated when those failed to see them. Apparently conditions were relatively good, so visibility wasn't hampered. Very easy to be critical from an armchair, but I'd say they will be reassessing the way they went about the operation. Not being critical of the great volunteers here, but of the oversight of the rescue. There were two people who could do very easily have lost their lives without timely intervention.

    Going out on paddle boards at nearly dark wasn’t a good move either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Is today Bryan Dobson's first day on the News at One ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    They seem to disappear for weeks at a time in that place. Des Cahill absent for ages since finishing the Desert Island Discs show, Sarah gone for weeks since finishing the morning program. Mary Wilson missing for a while also. Morning Ireland, 2 presenters out of 5 at a time by the sounds of it as you say, and a non-regular Carole Coleman filling in with Audrey today.
    Clon63 wrote: »
    Just wondering what is the eationale for having 5 presumably high paid presenters for a 5 day a week 2 person show. Surely no more than 3 are needed even to alliw for sufficient "resting" of presenters or does RTE just have nowhere else to put the talent?

    Newstalk has 2 regular presenters on Breakfast. The newsreader Brian Jennings does 4 days a week from 6am to lunchtime so it seems ectravagant.

    In interviews before I think I heard the first meeting of presenters is at 5.15am and even allowing for maybe a weekly meeting after the orogramme the hours seem handy. I dont think any of the presenters have any other regular shows on RTE.

    Would be interesting to see the salaries of the 5 presenters for their average 2 day week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Probably undergoing training for their new roles..

    Dessie.... not sure.... probably wiring into a pizza or something.

    “Plenty of onions there boss”


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  • Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Delighted to hear Aine Lawlor back on Morning Ireland earlier today.

    Superb interviewer, she is superior to many of her colleagues in RTE. She sounds authoritative, knowledgeable, intelligent and in-charge of an interview. She sounds concerned and involved about the issue being discussed (eg Leaving Cert results debacle.) She knows how to pursue an evasive interviewee.

    Imagine what a dynamic radio programme RTE would have had if they had given her the Today programme instead of Claire Byrne?

    I firmly maintain that Claire Byrne will NOT work out in the Today slot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Yeah I like Aine.

    I wonder how the bould Mary will get on, now that she has to share the mic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    bureau2009 wrote: »
    Delighted to hear Aine Lawlor back on Morning Ireland earlier today.

    Superb interviewer, she is superior to many of her colleagues in RTE. She sounds authoritative, knowledgeable, intelligent and in-charge of an interview. She sounds concerned and involved about the issue being discussed (eg Leaving Cert results debacle.) She knows how to pursue an evasive interviewee.

    Imagine what a dynamic radio programme RTE would have had if they had given her the Today programme instead of Claire Byrne?

    I firmly maintain that Claire Byrne will NOT work out in the Today slot.

    With you on that ,dude, Lalor ,however , needs to make sure she applies that hostile approach to the lefties and the Shinners.



    I hold my judgement till I see that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭crossman47


    With you on that ,dude, Lalor ,however , needs to make sure she applies that hostile approach to the lefties and the Shinners.



    I hold my judgement till I see that.

    The problem is in the phrase "hostile approach". Interviewers should be on top of their brief (she is) and not be rude (as she has been now with ministers two days in a row). I suspect Dobson was moved because he didn't fit the aggressive, hectoring style MI appears to need. Similarly, David McCullough (a superb broadcaster) is not settling well into the News because he is clearly unhappy at asking questions he knows the interviewee
    can't answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    Aine Lawlor wasn't very hostile to Paschal Donohoe's plamás when she interviewed him for her last News at 1 show recently. Fair enough that he'd acknowledge her last show (although it's not like she was retiring)...but it was like listening to the Oliver Callan version of Paschal. Aine lapped it up...how he made her blush...really cringey stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    crossman47 wrote: »
    The problem is in the phrase "hostile approach". Interviewers should be on top of their brief (she is) and not be rude (as she has been now with ministers two days in a row). I suspect Dobson was moved because he didn't fit the aggressive, hectoring style MI appears to need. Similarly, David McCullough (a superb broadcaster) is not settling well into the News because he is clearly unhappy at asking questions he knows the interviewee
    can't answer.

    Well what I really meant to get across is that interviewers should adopt a similar approach to interviewing all politicians.

    It’s struck me that govt parties get a hard grilling (rightly so) from some interviewers and yet the same interviewers give a ‘vanilla ‘ like interview to opposition... all palsy walsy name checking each other and not holding them to account on anything.

    I would agree that David McCullough appears uncomfortable and a bit wooden on the evening news, but quite honestly I never liked his style and repertoire of facial and eyebrow gymnastics.

    But that’s only my view .

    Doesn’t appear too happy in the role


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    A Social Media Influencer course at an Irish educational institution...struggling for the words


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    Her royal smugness is presenting Morning Ireland now? I thought she had retired?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Try to keep up Ger..... all this discussed months ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭djemba djemba


    Morning Ireland went all out on the coverage of the match tonight. Very good to get the view from Slovakia, although I am sure they could have found a sports journalist rather than someone from the Slovakian embassy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Stream (via app, tuneIn etc) for RTE1 seems to be intermittently dropping traffic for the last few weeks. I suspect they're red lining at peak. Anyone else? The stutter is fierce frustrating.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    ED E wrote: »
    Stream (via app, tuneIn etc) for RTE1 seems to be intermittently dropping traffic for the last few weeks. I suspect they're red lining at peak. Anyone else? The stutter is fierce frustrating.

    Yes, last couple of days on Tune In.

    Turned on this morning and the Great Interruptor was talking all over one of the guests as usual.

    With the audio dropping out, it seemed to go on forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Poor again today. When MI ends its fine as everyone tunes out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Very soft interview with MLMCD on MI this morning.

    Allowed to waffle on....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    Very soft interview with MLMCD on MI this morning.

    Allowed to waffle on....

    It's amazing how Mary Lou can say so much but say almost nothing at the same time.

    Same waffle, but Shane Coleman on Newstalk at least tried a bit harder to tackle Pearse Doherty on the same issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Radio5


    I was a seminar and Mary Lou was on the panel, maybe 10/12 years ago, women in politics/media, that kind of thing. In reply to a question, she spoke fluently for about 15 minutes with minimal pauses and very skillfully blocked every effort when the interviewer tried to get a word in (change of tone, change of tack, personal story, and saying 'it has to be said and I think the audience will be interested in this experience' etc). Said very little of substance but not an um or ahh of any kind. Great media training wherever they are getting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    "Whatever you say, say nothing." The oldest trick in the book, but takes craft and experience to do it well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    "Whatever you say, say nothing." The oldest trick in the book, but takes craft and experience to do it well.

    Correct Jose, and make sure to get at least three ‘namechecks’ in the first two or three minutes.

    I notice all the Shinners have the “don’t (dare) interrupt me” card well practiced.

    MaryLou
    O’Reilly
    Doherty
    Carty

    That and keep talking through the flack like a prop forward pumping the legs going for the line.

    The ploy being that even if nobody can hear you, They can’t hear anyone else either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭crossman47


    MI had an interview on this https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2020/1202/1181934-lotto-south-africa/ this morning. Almost seemed to agree there was something fishy. No one on to make the point that the odds against any given set of numbers are very long and are the same for all sets (in sequence or otherwise). The interviewer clearly never studied statistics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Excellent interview between Audrey Carville and Norma Foley on MI this morning.

    No hectoring, no ‘flash-banging’ no implication in the questioning of ‘blame’, just good incisive questioning to elicit information for the listener which is the way it should happen.

    Others would do well to study Ms Carville’s style .In fairness Ms Foley came across well,too, seemed much more confident and assured.

    I’ll leave it at that , purely a radio subject.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Another “Respond back” from Paschal on MI this morning !!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Jesus. Listening to a segment this morning and it seemed to be a parade of "Executive Directors" of Charities working with sex offenders in Ireland. The charity industry must be one of the largest employers of senior executives in the country at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    Aine Lawlor gave Martin Collins of Pavee Point the most ridiculously soft, joke of an 'interview' this morning on the Carrick on Shannon funeral/gathering this week. In fairness to Collins, he was clear on the need to abide with the restrictions. But not one probing or difficult follow up question on why they're just being largely ignored at Traveller funerals...she just set Collins up for his dream answer to the question of "are you worried that this will lead to stigmatisation?"

    Now I live very near a church and plenty in the settled community are back now gathering (outside) for funerals, but they're aren't (if reports are true) hundreds descending on a town and setting up a fcuking marquee for a couple of days. The incredibly overrated Lawlor was soon back in her element having the banter with the guy about his lost eagle.

    Anyway, I shouldn't be so concerned as I'm sure Tubridy, Byrne, Duffy or Maura & Daithi on Drivetime will ask the difficult questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    Tonight Show on Virgin Media with Matt Cooper had quite a long feature on the restrictions at funerals yesterday with not a mention of events in Longford there either. Avoided by all of the mainstream media it would appear. You would have to go to the Longford Leader Twitter feee to find any reference to the event


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Cole wrote: »
    Aine Lawlor gave Martin Collins of Pavee Point the most ridiculously soft, joke of an 'interview' this morning on the Carrick on Shannon funeral/gathering this week. In fairness to Collins, he was clear on the need to abide with the restrictions. But not one probing or difficult follow up question on why they're just being largely ignored at Traveller funerals...she just set Collins up for his dream answer to the question of "are you worried that this will lead to stigmatisation?"

    Now I live very near a church and plenty in the settled community are back now gathering (outside) for funerals, but they're aren't (if reports are true) hundreds descending on a town and setting up a fcuking marquee for a couple of days. The incredibly overrated Lawlor was soon back in her element having the banter with the guy about his lost eagle.

    Anyway, I shouldn't be so concerned as I'm sure Tubridy, Byrne, Duffy or Maura & Daithi on Drivetime will ask the difficult questions.

    Only if they are members of the ruling parties Mr Cole, everyone else gets the vanilla treatment.

    I noticed in Pavee Points ‘resume’ on Twitter mentions “supporting Travellers rights”. No mention of Responsibilities........hmmmmm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Cole wrote: »
    Aine Lawlor gave Martin Collins of Pavee Point the most ridiculously soft, joke of an 'interview' this morning on the Carrick on Shannon funeral/gathering this week. In fairness to Collins, he was clear on the need to abide with the restrictions. But not one probing or difficult follow up question on why they're just being largely ignored at Traveller funerals...she just set Collins up for his dream answer to the question of "are you worried that this will lead to stigmatisation?"

    Now I live very near a church and plenty in the settled community are back now gathering (outside) for funerals, but they're aren't (if reports are true) hundreds descending on a town and setting up a fcuking marquee for a couple of days. The incredibly overrated Lawlor was soon back in her element having the banter with the guy about his lost eagle.

    Anyway, I shouldn't be so concerned as I'm sure Tubridy, Byrne, Duffy or Maura & Daithi on Drivetime will ask the difficult questions.

    Aine Lawlor was painfully WOKE years before it even existed

    and those sombre deferential tones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,919 ✭✭✭gifted


    Cole wrote: »
    Aine Lawlor gave Martin Collins of Pavee Point the most ridiculously soft, joke of an 'interview' this morning on the Carrick on Shannon funeral/gathering this week. In fairness to Collins, he was clear on the need to abide with the restrictions. But not one probing or difficult follow up question on why they're just being largely ignored at Traveller funerals...she just set Collins up for his dream answer to the question of "are you worried that this will lead to stigmatisation?"

    Now I live very near a church and plenty in the settled community are back now gathering (outside) for funerals, but they're aren't (if reports are true) hundreds descending on a town and setting up a fcuking marquee for a couple of days. The incredibly overrated Lawlor was soon back in her element having the banter with the guy about his lost eagle.

    Anyway, I shouldn't be so concerned as I'm sure Tubridy, Byrne, Duffy or Maura & Daithi on Drivetime will ask the difficult questions.

    Heard that interview this morning and my first thought was the same.....Very soft interview.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    Just listening to a piece on the rise in covid numbers and they shoehorned in a voxpop on "play dates"...that just means kids mixing and playing ffs doesn't it? I've heard NPHET using that term at their press conferences too.

    The voxpop was done in south county Dublin...maybe that played a part in why it was repeated so often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Cole wrote: »
    Just listening to a piece on the rise in covid numbers and they shoehorned in a voxpop on "play dates"...that just means kids mixing and playing ffs doesn't it? I've heard NPHET using that term at their press conferences too.

    The voxpop was done in south county Dublin...maybe that played a part in why it was repeated so often.

    Apart from that on Samantha Libreri goin mad on the ‘Nooze, which annoys me intensely and the HSE tracer lady starting every, I say again, e v e r y, sentence with ‘So’.

    A play date I think is an ‘official invitation’ to another child’s house to play, not a random meeting of children out on the green or on the road.

    The voxpop was done by Aonghus Cox in SoCoDu whose mother Valerie never strayed too far from North Wicklow SoCoDu for similar reportage, before ‘taking the lump’

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    A play date I think is an ‘official invitation’ to another child’s house to play, not a random meeting of children out on the green or on the road.

    It must be a generational thing. It was always pretty random in my day...never remember any need for negotiation or invitation to get us all together so we could go a bit mad. Obviously they can't do that at the moment but "play date" just sounds so sterile (and a bit pretentious tbh).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    Apart from that on Samantha Libreri goin mad on the ‘Nooze, which annoys me intensely and the HSE tracer lady starting every, I say again, e v e r y, sentence with ‘So’.

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/1457854/rte-blasted-for-pronunciation-style-guide-which-demands-broadcasters-speak-on-air-using-queens-english/

    Take note of the professor's comments on "nooze";)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    As I always say, it’s just as easy to pronounce it correctly!

    Just another little thing I noticed on MI. Vinnie Kearney is now Northern Editor, Tommie must have officially quit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    As I always say, it’s just as easy to pronounce it correctly!

    Just another little thing I noticed on MI. Vinnie Kearney is now Northern Editor, Tommie must have officially quit.

    But Samantha Libreri et al. are doing just that according to their own (Irish English) pronunciation.

    Anyway, Tommie signed off on the 9 o'clock nooze last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Cole wrote: »
    But Samantha Libreri et al. are doing just that according to their own (Irish English) pronunciation.

    Anyway, Tommie signed off on the 9 o'clock nooze last night.

    Aaaah heeeeeyur. ..... ‘Nooze’ (Irish/English). :D

    Pure laziness if you ask this poster.

    Same as Ballsy, Hannon, every Roadwatch reporter, Dunphy, :D

    Pure laziness, plain and simple.

    Now better leave it at that as there is a thread on this specific isshu ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    As I always say, it’s just as easy to pronounce it correctly!

    Just another little thing I noticed on MI. Vinnie Kearney is now Northern Editor, Tommie must have officially quit.
    Tommie signed off on the TV News last night Bren


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    Apart from that on Samantha Libreri goin mad on the ‘Nooze, which annoys me intensely and the HSE tracer lady starting every, I say again, e v e r y, sentence with ‘So’.

    A play date I think is an ‘official invitation’ to another child’s house to play, not a random meeting of children out on the green or on the road.

    The voxpop was done by Aonghus Cox in SoCoDu whose mother Valerie never strayed too far from North Wicklow SoCoDu for similar reportage, before ‘taking the lump’

    ;)
    Valerie took the hump and then the lump back in 2018. €50k from the WRC, didn't want to disembark from the gravy train when she turned 65. Aonghus on board now. Interesting to hear Samantha sprung from the bench this morning as the Easter wind down gets underway. Gavan Jennings re-routed to This Week on Sundays as Morning Ireland seemingly favours an all-female line up these days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    amlinopta wrote: »
    Valerie took the hump and then the lump back in 2018. €50k from the WRC, didn't want to disembark from the gravy train when she turned 65. Aonghus on board now. Interesting to hear Samantha sprung from the bench this morning as the Easter wind down gets underway. Gavan Jennings re-routed to This Week on Sundays as Morning Ireland seemingly favours an all-female line up these days

    Indeed amlin,that’s what happened, nice little earner, tip around North Wicklow and South Dublin, no major upset, at home for brekkie and tea and a nice lifestyle.

    No wonder she ‘reared up’ when that bad boy was ‘took away’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Libreri is mashing the ‘Nooze’ big time this morning.

    Along with the Roadwatch reporter..... not a good day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    "bald men telling us that we can't get our hair cut"...good to see a professor of psychology really getting to the core reasons why (some) people are becoming lax with the restrictions:rolleyes:


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Indeed amlin,that’s what happened, nice little earner, tip around North Wicklow and South Dublin, no major upset, at home for brekkie and tea and a nice lifestyle.

    No wonder she ‘reared up’ when that bad boy was ‘took away’.
    It's been publicised in media reports of the time that at this time, her husband was in hospital after having suffered a brain seizure. They had been volunteering to run a food programme for refugees arriving in Greece from Syria when it happened, and it had been believed he would never walk or talk again and her husband spent a year and a half in hospital, then rehab.
    This is all beside the fact that it was RTE that was in the wrong while all of this was going on.

    It doesn't belong in this thread, but deserves to be mentioned given all that has been said in the above posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,728 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    It's been publicised in media reports of the time that at this time, her husband was in hospital after having suffered a brain seizure. They had been volunteering to run a food programme for refugees arriving in Greece from Syria when it happened, and it had been believed he would never walk or talk again and her husband spent a year and a half in hospital, then rehab.
    This is all beside the fact that it was RTE that was in the wrong while all of this was going on.

    It doesn't belong in this thread, but deserves to be mentioned given all that has been said in the above posts.

    I thought she had left RTE when that event happened .

    Not that it matters, in the great scheme of things.


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