Post here if you need assistance filling out the grant form!

Annasopra · 03-07-2011 8:02pm

Quibbler wrote: »

I'm away at the moment and so don't have time to go through all of the forms and guidelines, but can anyone tell me if any of the rules have changed this year, or is it the same as last year?
If you could qualify last year then will you qualify this year? I was just a bit worried they might change the rules like they did with the 3 year rule last year!

I'm not sure if anything has significantly changed. The only thing I think is changing the adjacent distance from 24km to 45km

IfUSeekAmy · 03-07-2011 8:34pm

Hey, just enquiring about brackets.

what would be the income Id need to have to secure a full grant, living in kerry (applying for Dublin) for 3dependant children other than myself. Thx.

Helpyouspeak · 04-07-2011 2:17pm

I have a query about documentary evdence for personal income for 2010. I lived abroad for 6 months of 2010, in Spain, so was wondering if anyone had any idea what the equivalent of the Irish P60 is for Spain?

Also in reference to which Local Authority you should apply to, they have seemngly changed something this year as I found out this morning. I previously got my grant for my degree from Mayo County council as I had been living there a few months, subsequently moved abroad for 2 years and returned to live in Galway -in August 2010-so I assumed it would be Galway county council I'd send my application to this year but when reading the guidance notes to the grant I discvered a note saying If you were previously in receipt of a student grant you should re-apply to the grant awarding authority who previously processed your student grant application.
So I called Mayo County council and they confirmed I should send my application to them despite not having lived there since 2003.

Just thought I'd share that as it may affect some people on here.

begsy · 04-07-2011 5:08pm

Hi i'm confused about the whole grant application. To qualify for the grant do you have to live exactly 45 kilometeres from the college? Does any one know how many kilometers Lispole is from tralee? Or where can I find it out? Please help.

Jonesy3110 · 04-07-2011 7:28pm

Does anyone know how to change details on your online application? I made a mistake

Can I just apply again by post or will that mess things up?

RoyalMarine · 04-07-2011 7:40pm

have you submitted your application?

if not, then you can easily edit it there.

I wouldnt submit another one by post, as that would create 2 applications for you. best to ring your local vec and find out if they can edit it for you if needed.

Jonesy3110 · 04-07-2011 7:53pm

Cool thanks

I submitted it already, I only realised afterwards that I had messed up one part.

Swizzlstick · 04-07-2011 7:55pm

Questions about the supporting documents, I just finished the online grant.

A) I never received my P60 off my employer for the year 2010 (no longer work for the company) which entails me going in to the company about 10 times to remind them to send my P60 out, which is what happened with my P45, so I wonder, I have all my payslips from my commencement of work to the 31st Dec 2010. Shall that suffice?

One of my legal guardians who received Jobseekers Benefit in 2010 has all the receipts she has receive (3 in total) so rather than contacting the Department (of whatever it's called) and awaiting a letter from them, am I capable of sending in the receipts as documentary evidence? My legal guardian also has a letter from The Jobseekers Benefit which details when the payments commenced, but not when they ended. Shall this suffice?

I just want to get my application in hassle free s quick as I can.

Sparkie93 · 04-07-2011 8:03pm

begsy wrote: »

Hi i'm confused about the whole grant application. To qualify for the grant do you have to live exactly 45 kilometeres from the college? Does any one know how many kilometers Lispole is from tralee? Or where can I find it out? Please help.

i used this to find the distance
http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-advanced-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm

Moon Indigo · 04-07-2011 9:28pm

This is probably a stupid question but I did an online application and then sent in the documents etc. My question is do the council get back to you to say they got the forms or do they wait until they give you a yay or a nay? Thanks

begsy · 05-07-2011 12:24pm

Hi sparkie thanks for the link. It wouldn't work for me so i just typed in directions from my village to dromtacker in tralee on the google maps and it gave me the distance. Thanks again

Andre80Johnson · 05-07-2011 2:16pm

Proof of Nationality, should I just scan my passport or photocopy my birth cert.

Thanks

RoyalMarine · 05-07-2011 2:39pm

Moon Indigo wrote: »

This is probably a stupid question but I did an online application and then sent in the documents etc. My question is do the council get back to you to say they got the forms or do they wait until they give you a yay or a nay? Thanks

once your application is processed, they will contact you.

Andre80Johnson wrote: »

Proof of Nationality, should I just scan my passport or photocopy my birth cert.

Thanks

yeah that will do just fine.

Paul Tergat · 05-07-2011 7:23pm

I had the grant from my undergrad degree from 04-08. Decided to go back and do a postgrad starting this summer - i assume the rule is that 3 years have to have lapsed before you can apply again?

Cheers

20 Times 20 Times · 05-07-2011 11:25pm

p_larkin99 wrote: »

I had the grant from my undergrad degree from 04-08. Decided to go back and do a postgrad starting this summer - i assume the rule is that 3 years have to have lapsed before you can apply again?

Cheers

what rule are you talking about ?? I just finished my degree and am going straight into a masters now.

Annasopra · 06-07-2011 12:01am

p_larkin99 wrote: »

I had the grant from my undergrad degree from 04-08. Decided to go back and do a postgrad starting this summer - i assume the rule is that 3 years have to have lapsed before you can apply again?

Cheers

Yes - you can apply now because you are 're entering' - if you live with your parents though you are classified as a dependent

Annasopra · 06-07-2011 12:03am

Little Pea wrote: »

what rule are you talking about ?? I just finished my degree and am going straight into a masters now.

Because you are going straight into the postgrad this is classified as 'entering' not 're entering' so it is not something you personally have to worry about.

PadraicEgan · 06-07-2011 12:24am

They say they need tax documents for the previous tax year, i.e. 2010. But hardly anyone has their taxes done for 2010 already, and I was forced to hand in 2009 tax documents with my application. It is normally done by the accountant/agricultural consultant in September. Is anyone else in the same situation and will it affect my application? (dad is a farmer by the way)

threein99 · 06-07-2011 11:31am

RoyalMarine wrote: »

once your application is processed, they will contact you.

yeah that will do just fine.

So copies of the additional forms will do ? someone said earlier that they have to be the original forms

RoyalMarine · 06-07-2011 12:07pm

well you need to send originals in, or bring them in yourself and they will copy and stamp them there.

threein99 · 06-07-2011 1:53pm

Another question from me on the extra documents, Im applying as a dependent mature student because Im still living at home, I said yes to the question that asks did my parents work in 2010, now they are currently both off work for medical reasons and will be for a while yet, so what documents should I provide when it asks for evidence of income from employment ?

cactus10 · 06-07-2011 2:00pm

Question about section F8 - Income from savings, deposit accounts and investments

Does this mean just money you have in the bank and a bank statement to back it up? Or is this solely related to return on investing

RoyalMarine · 06-07-2011 2:17pm

threein99 wrote: »

Another question from me on the extra documents, Im applying as a dependent mature student because Im still living at home, I said yes to the question that asks did my parents work in 2010, now they are currently both off work for medical reasons and will be for a while yet, so what documents should I provide when it asks for evidence of income from employment ?

provide all relevant info for 2010, but attach a letter stating they are no longer working and provide evidence of this. since its medically related, doctor's letter etc will suffice.

Annasopra · 06-07-2011 5:00pm

IfUSeekAmy wrote: »

Hey, just enquiring about brackets.

what would be the income Id need to have to secure a full grant, living in kerry (applying for Dublin) for 3dependant children other than myself. Thx.

The income brackets are on page 35 of this

http://www.studentfinance.ie/downloads/Student%20Grant%20Scheme%202011.pdf

Annasopra · 06-07-2011 5:03pm

begsy wrote: »

Hi i'm confused about the whole grant application. To qualify for the grant do you have to live exactly 45 kilometeres from the college? Does any one know how many kilometers Lispole is from tralee? Or where can I find it out? Please help.

No - If you live less than 45km then you get the adjacent rate. More than 45km and you get the non adjacent rate

Google maps might give you an idea

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Lispole,+Ireland&daddr=Institute+of+Technology,+Liosdara,+Tralee,+Ireland&hl=en&sll=52.142073,-10.165226&sspn=0.007862,0.01929&geocode=FfmfGwMdFuRk_ynjQSby8_hPSDGS5boZqMcAJg%3BFSmZHQMdxSds_yH5L52eZYMjTg&mra=ls&z=11

trishawisha · 06-07-2011 5:52pm

I have sent off my grant application just wondering if someone could clarify I have all the correct paperwork. I will be going into office for them to copy.

Course acceptance form (dont have it yet)
Documentary evidence of independant living (esb, gas bill from sept/oct 2010)
Proof of nationality (will let them copy passport)
Evidemce of residency of 3 out of last 5 years (tax credits from 2005,2006,2007,2008, p60 from 2008,2009,2010)
Evidence of previous courses (fetac level 6 cert, have nothing from when I dropped out of a course after 6months in 2001)
Evidence of reckonable income (p60 from 2010)
I also have my leaving cert which I sent away for a few months ago
I also have a letter from prtb from 2007

I hope thats all I need

RoyalMarine · 06-07-2011 6:54pm

trishawisha wrote: »

I have sent off my grant application just wondering if someone could clarify I have all the correct paperwork. I will be going into office for them to copy.
Course acceptance form (dont have it yet)

Documentary evidence of independant living (esb, gas bill from sept/oct 2010)

Proof of nationality (will let them copy passport)

Evidemce of residency of 3 out of last 5 years (tax credits from 2005,2006,2007,2008, p60 from 2008,2009,2010)

Evidence of previous courses (fetac level 6 cert, have nothing from when I dropped out of a course after 6months in 2001)

Evidence of reckonable income (p60 from 2010)

I also have my leaving cert which I sent away for a few months ago

I also have a letter from prtb from 2007

I hope thats all I need

all seems fine. however, they might contact you after they receive the application looking for further documents, but it wont push your application back in the queue.

august12 · 06-07-2011 7:32pm

trishawisha wrote: »

I have sent off my grant application just wondering if someone could clarify I have all the correct paperwork. I will be going into office for them to copy.
Course acceptance form (dont have it yet)

Documentary evidence of independant living (esb, gas bill from sept/oct 2010)

Proof of nationality (will let them copy passport)

Evidemce of residency of 3 out of last 5 years (tax credits from 2005,2006,2007,2008, p60 from 2008,2009,2010)

Evidence of previous courses (fetac level 6 cert, have nothing from when I dropped out of a course after 6months in 2001)

Evidence of reckonable income (p60 from 2010)

I also have my leaving cert which I sent away for a few months ago

I also have a letter from prtb from 2007

I hope thats all I need

You also need your P21 available from Revenue which shows your P60 earnings for 2010 and if there is any other income on this, you will need to provide documentary evidence of it.

rocco. · 07-07-2011 1:39pm

Hi

I submitted my grant form yesterday, I ticked the box for level 7 because I really didnt expect to get offered a level 8 which I did today.

Would it just be a matter of contacting my local vec and telling them to make the change?

Annasopra · 07-07-2011 1:51pm

rocco. wrote: »

Hi

I submitted my grant form yesterday, I ticked the box for level 7 because I really didnt expect to get offered a level 8 which I did today.

Would it just be a matter of contacting my local vec and telling them to make the change?

The online system is new this year. I suggest ringing the VEC

jeal · 08-07-2011 7:19pm

Hi,

Does anyone know how they work out the distance for the non-adjacent rate? I'm living in ratoath and hoping to attend UCD. I tried the google maps directions option but it gave me 3 different options - using the m50 it's 49k away - and two options through the city is only 38k/32k.

If it's as the crow flies it's only 27k away.

tks

ash xxx · 08-07-2011 10:25pm

jeal wrote: »

Hi,

Does anyone know how they work out the distance for the non-adjacent rate? I'm living in ratoath and hoping to attend UCD. I tried the google maps directions option but it gave me 3 different options - using the m50 it's 49k away - and two options through the city is only 38k/32k.
If it's as the crow flies it's only 27k away.

tks

it's as the crow flies so you would only be eligible for the adjacent rate.

Cardor · 10-07-2011 6:49pm

Hi Guys,

For the section F1 I need to supply documentary evidence of my income for 2010, I worked in river Island for 1 month over the Christmas period and this was my first Job. On my P45 it says that I finished on (01 Jan 11)... I started on the 5th of December 2010.. Can I use the P45 even though it says I finished on the first of January 2011?

I don't have a P60 because I was told I don't need it because i'm unemployed and the P45 will do the same job as the P60, is this true?

I have one more question in regards to the residency requirement. I must prove that I have been resident in Ireland for 3 of the past 5 years. I can prove that I sat my Junior cert exams in 2008 by supplying a copy of my results. But how do I prove that I sat the leaving cert, as the results aren't out yet?

Furthermore, I can't get in contact with my school as it is closed until mid-august, so I can't get a letter from my principal..

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

RoyalMarine · 10-07-2011 7:33pm

cardor, dont worry about the 3/5 years with regards to your LC results. once they come out, send them to the vec. in the mean time, send them your JC results and anything else you think might help.
once your application is sent to them, you can still send them more info when it becomes available to you.

cactus10 · 11-07-2011 11:12am

cactus10 wrote: »

Question about section F8 - Income from savings, deposit accounts and investments

Does this mean just money you have in the bank and a bank statement to back it up? Or is this solely related to return on investing

Bump

Can anyone help with this?

shofukan · 12-07-2011 11:20am

Hi, I was wondering what I could use as proof of residency?
Would bank statements be ok? and if so, how many etc.

Annasopra · 12-07-2011 2:32pm

cactus10 wrote: »

Question about section F8 - Income from savings, deposit accounts and investments

Does this mean just money you have in the bank and a bank statement to back it up? Or is this solely related to return on investing
Bump

Can anyone help with this?

Documentary evidence for savings, deposit accounts or investments:
• Statements of the interest/dividends paid from the financial institution or other provider,
for example, bank, building society, post office or credit union etc covering the period 1
January 2010 to 31 December 2010;
• P21 PAYE Balancing Statement or Notice of Assessment for 2010

http://www.studentfinance.ie/downloads/Student%20Grant%20Scheme%202011.pdf

Annasopra · 12-07-2011 2:34pm

seanor3 wrote: »

Hi, I was wondering what I could use as proof of residency?
Would bank statements be ok? and if so, how many etc.

Documentary evidence for residency for 3 out of the last 5 years
This may be one or more of the following:
• evidence that the applicant sat the Junior Certificate and Leaving Certificate exams in
Ireland, or equivalent school exams in the EU, EEA or Switzerland;
• a letter from a school principal in Ireland, the EU, EEA or Switzerland confirming the
applicant’s attendance at a school;
• social welfare statements or equivalents from the EU, EEA or Switzerland;
• utility bills;
• registration with the Private Residential Tenancies Board (PRTB), or equivalent from
the EU, EEA or Switzerland;
• if the applicant is a non-EEA national, a letter from the Department of Justice and
Equality confirming the period of lawful presence in Ireland. Periods of unlawful
presence cannot be considered.

http://www.studentfinance.ie/downloads/Student%20Grant%20Scheme%202011.pdf

Cardor · 12-07-2011 3:40pm

Cardor wrote: »

Hi Guys,

For the section F1 I need to supply documentary evidence of my income for 2010, I worked in river Island for 1 month over the Christmas period and this was my first Job. On my P45 it says that I finished on (01 Jan 11)... I started on the 5th of December 2010.. Can I use the P45 even though it says I finished on the first of January 2011?

I don't have a P60 because I was told I don't need it because i'm unemployed and the P45 will do the same job as the P60, is this true?

Can anybody answer this question? Its the only thing holding me back.. :S

Annasopra · 12-07-2011 4:10pm

Cardor wrote: »

Can anybody answer this question? Its the only thing holding me back.. :S

Once you have a P45 and a P21 for 2010 it should be fine I d say

Cardor · 12-07-2011 4:16pm

mango salsa wrote: »

Once you have a P45 and a P21 for 2010 it should be fine I d say

Thanks for your reply... I hope so..

neads90 · 12-07-2011 10:00pm

Hi,

My boyfriend is applying as an independent mature student for 2011/2012.

Having some trouble with proof of address tho. I am aware that they accept:
utility bills, bank statements or government letters.

Unfortunately he doesn't have any of these delivered to his address as the bills are in one of the other resident's name and his bank statements are delivered to his family home. He has been living independently at the same address for the past 2 years and I was just wondering if someone could give me some advice on how else he could prove this that would be acceptable for the grant application.

Annasopra · 12-07-2011 10:15pm

neads90 wrote: »

Hi,

My boyfriend is applying as an independent mature student for 2011/2012.

Having some trouble with proof of address tho. I am aware that they accept:
utility bills, bank statements or government letters.

Unfortunately he doesn't have any of these delivered to his address as the bills are in one of the other resident's name and his bank statements are delivered to his family home. He has been living independently at the same address for the past 2 years and I was just wondering if someone could give me some advice on how else he could prove this that would be acceptable for the grant application.

anything from prtb? tax related?

daffodil14 · 12-07-2011 10:52pm

neads90 wrote: »

Hi,

My boyfriend is applying as an independent mature student for 2011/2012.

Having some trouble with proof of address tho. I am aware that they accept:
utility bills, bank statements or government letters.

Unfortunately he doesn't have any of these delivered to his address as the bills are in one of the other resident's name and his bank statements are delivered to his family home. He has been living independently at the same address for the past 2 years and I was just wondering if someone could give me some advice on how else he could prove this that would be acceptable for the grant application.

If he is renting perhaps a letter from the landlord stating how long he has lived there? or a copy of receipts from paying rent? or a copy of his lease?

Other than that the only thing I could think of would be a solicitors letter where he would basically sign a legal doc with the solicitor.

Ring the local VEC/Council and put suggestions to them if they have none themselves :rolleyes:

Hope this helps

Cardor · 12-07-2011 11:33pm

neads90 wrote: »

Hi,

My boyfriend is applying as an independent mature student for 2011/2012.

Having some trouble with proof of address tho. I am aware that they accept:
utility bills, bank statements or government letters.

Unfortunately he doesn't have any of these delivered to his address as the bills are in one of the other resident's name and his bank statements are delivered to his family home. He has been living independently at the same address for the past 2 years and I was just wondering if someone could give me some advice on how else he could prove this that would be acceptable for the grant application.

Hey,

You don't actually have to prove your address.. you just have to prove that you've been living in Ireland for at least 3 of the past 5 years.

His address is kind of already proven if he is applying to the county council or VEC as he can only apply to a specific council or VEC if he has been living in that county/area.

I got a letter from my secondary school Principal to prove that I was attending that school for the past 6 years.. you don't need to prove your address, you just need to prove that you were resident in Ireland for at least 3 of the past 5 years:P So any documents that can prove that would be adequate whether they are from his home address or his present address.

Hope this helps!

neads90 · 13-07-2011 11:41am

Thanks guys, he managed to get a copy of his lease from last year from the landlord so hopefully that works!

LeixlipRed · 13-07-2011 2:27pm

I'm a mature applicant who's just recently become independent for the purpose of applying. Have a few queries:

-Are transcripts from full time college courses enough to prove residency for 3 out of 5 years? That's not on the checklist and I don't have utility bills stretching back that far.
-Also, I have a receipt for all my rent paid signed by my landlord, is that enough to prove independent living? If not how do you obtain from the PRTB a document proving your registration? I am registered with them but not sure how I prove that.
-I've applied for several other sources of funding, it asks me to submit documentation. I won't know about those for a month at least though, what do I do?

Thanks!

shuyin1 · 13-07-2011 8:10pm

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I'm a mature applicant who's just recently become independent for the purpose of applying. Have a few queries:

-Are transcripts from full time college courses enough to prove residency for 3 out of 5 years? That's not on the checklist and I don't have utility bills stretching back that far.
-Also, I have a receipt for all my rent paid signed by my landlord, is that enough to prove independent living? If not how do you obtain from the PRTB a document proving your registration? I am registered with them but not sure how I prove that.
-I've applied for several other sources of funding, it asks me to submit documentation. I won't know about those for a month at least though, what do I do?

Thanks!

Transcripts are definitely accepted. No idea about other points.

atom2 · 13-07-2011 8:31pm

Hi, I have two quick questions if anybody can help me. Im just wondering what do I put down as my CAO number? I have the renewal grant form so i didnt do my L.C last year. Also, do i need to send my results and an attendance form? It says in the notes of my renewal form that I dont need to but Im just making sure!!

Thanks!

Annasopra · 13-07-2011 9:28pm

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I'm a mature applicant who's just recently become independent for the purpose of applying. Have a few queries:

-Are transcripts from full time college courses enough to prove residency for 3 out of 5 years? That's not on the checklist and I don't have utility bills stretching back that far.
-Also, I have a receipt for all my rent paid signed by my landlord, is that enough to prove independent living? If not how do you obtain from the PRTB a document proving your registration? I am registered with them but not sure how I prove that.
-I've applied for several other sources of funding, it asks me to submit documentation. I won't know about those for a month at least though, what do I do?

Thanks!

For residency - do you have any tax forms, any bills at all

Ring PRTB and ask if they can send something?
http://public.prtb.ie/contact.html

Mention the funding but say awaiting etc

Post here if you need assistance filling out the grant form!

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