General Ryanair discusion

LeChienMefiant · 06-03-2019 1:38pm

How much was standby?

Van.Bosch · 06-03-2019 2:55pm

rugbyman wrote: »

Am answering my own question here, perhaps the knowledge I gained will be of use to someone

I arrived at Beauvais three hours before take off. and spoke to helpful lady in office ,Virginie. She told me the only option , because people could arrive at last minute,was to buy a standby ,so I could go through security and leave,with a refund if I did not get on.

Not wanting to wait that long,as two buses to CDG would be tight, I asked if she would tell me at 15.10(flight 17.10) how many had actually checked in.
She said she could. if ,say,over ten had not checked in, then it was unlikely that all these ten would arrive late and pay for their late print tickets.

Ahm, she says lets look now and see, and amazingly, she said there was a ticket (s) available, even on the website!!!! This made my day, for the previous two days the website was fully booked!!! 170 euro . at one time with Ryanair last minute tickets were 260 euro

How this works, that seats come available is a mystery to me,, My theory is this... there were two pilots travelling as passengers, perhaps Ryanair had expected more...

Someone changed their booking to another date, seat becomes available and sold.

Credit Checker Moose · 06-03-2019 2:58pm

LeChienMefiant wrote: »

How much was standby?

170 he says.

Rawr · 06-03-2019 8:46pm

rugbyman wrote: »

Am answering my own question here, perhaps the knowledge I gained will be of use to someone

I arrived at Beauvais three hours before take off. and spoke to helpful lady in office ,Virginie. She told me the only option , because people could arrive at last minute,was to buy a standby ,so I could go through security and leave,with a refund if I did not get on.

Not wanting to wait that long,as two buses to CDG would be tight, I asked if she would tell me at 15.10(flight 17.10) how many had actually checked in.
She said she could. if ,say,over ten had not checked in, then it was unlikely that all these ten would arrive late and pay for their late print tickets.

Ahm, she says lets look now and see, and amazingly, she said there was a ticket (s) available, even on the website!!!! This made my day, for the previous two days the website was fully booked!!! 170 euro . at one time with Ryanair last minute tickets were 260 euro

How this works, that seats come available is a mystery to me,, My theory is this... there were two pilots travelling as passengers, perhaps Ryanair had expected more...

Very glad I was wrong there about the possibility of standby. I've done that bus trip from Beauvais and I'm glad you didn't have to go through that...

rugbyman · 07-03-2019 10:05am

Le chien, I actually did not ask,as seat became available.that seat was 170

rugbyman · 07-03-2019 10:06am

Van bosch. Obvious answer,was not thinking right

rivegauche · 08-03-2019 2:05pm

My flight booked at about 3 hours notice on way to the airport via mobile phone in passenger seat of car at New Years was 135 including priority/baggage. It appears they are not crucifying those who book at short notice to the same extent as they might have in the past.

LeChienMefiant · 08-03-2019 2:06pm

rivegauche wrote: »

My flight booked at about 3 hours notice on way to the airport via mobile phone in passenger seat of car at New Years was 135 including priority/baggage. It appears they are not crucifying those who book at short notice to the same extent as they might have in the past.

Probably because the loads are down?

rivegauche · 08-03-2019 2:23pm

LeChienMefiant wrote: »

Probably because the loads are down?

Fairly full flight. No evidence that their loads are down. They are still at 96% load factor.

VG31 · 08-03-2019 2:48pm

rivegauche wrote: »

My flight booked at about 3 hours notice on way to the airport via mobile phone in passenger seat of car at New Years was 135 including priority/baggage. It appears they are not crucifying those who book at short notice to the same extent as they might have in the past.

That is one good thing about Ryanair compared to other airlines. One of the EI flights I was on recently only had a load factor of 25% but was still €200-300 to book a day or two before.

Credit Checker Moose · 08-03-2019 2:49pm

Depends on the flight destination. Time of flight. Loads of factors to take account of.

Jack1985 · 14-03-2019 1:05pm

Ryanair Sun to be re-branded as Buzz from Autumn 2019... of course for those of us old enough to remember the former KLM brand subsequently taken-over by Ryanair it makes a return after 15 years !

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-sun-to-be-rebranded-as-buzz-in-autumn-2019/?fbclid=IwAR1_M32huF8IqN8ZpOJXdIOH66-VXF0HuHN1TRgoWuZtMhGx60KE0vVV_zQ

grimm2005 · 14-03-2019 1:29pm

"Buzz will launch its own website and app in autumn 2019, where Polish customers will be able to book all Ryanair flights, including these operated by Buzz."

Interesting that they are launching a separate app and website which it sounds like will be nothing more than a skin for the current Ryanair portals. There's no Laudamotion app but the website is a barely disguised version of the Ryanair website.

Looks like they're going all in on diluting the brand into sub airlines possibly as a way to distance themselves from some of the negativity of the Ryanair brand.

vectorvictor · 14-03-2019 1:59pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

Ryanair Sun to be re-branded as Buzz from Autumn 2019... of course for those of us old enough to remember the former KLM brand subsequently taken-over by Ryanair it makes a return after 15 years !

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-sun-to-be-rebranded-as-buzz-in-autumn-2019/?fbclid=IwAR1_M32huF8IqN8ZpOJXdIOH66-VXF0HuHN1TRgoWuZtMhGx60KE0vVV_zQ

Very strange to add this level of complexity. Multiple brands = loss of value in marketing spend and there's really no reason to be making up brands. Lauda makes sense - it's established and relevant in the market.

Now we will have FR operating two or three brands in some markets , all bookable through the Ryanair platform or skins of it and a bit of a mish mash of which brand you'll fly with (look at current Poland to IE/UK winter ops where ATM it's unrecognisable that you are flying with Ryanair sun but now it will be obvious)

Will they be brand conscious when rotating airframes around bases for mx/operational reasons? If so that comes at a financial cost, if not that comes at a branding cost.

This is just change for changes sake

kevinandrew · 14-03-2019 6:45pm

I guess this is Ryanair taking their ambitions to be an IAG style group one step further with independent brands now added to the mix.

IAG is made up of well establish former national carrier brands and a major low cost airline brand with Level as the start up brand. The Ryanair Group will consist on the well established Ryanair brand (Ryanair DAC and Ryanair UK) with Laudamotion established in its market and now Buzz the start up brand, albeit a revival of sorts.

kub · 15-03-2019 9:33am

So are they changing this holiday package type product they offer in Poland and changing it into just another brand and dropping the package arrangement?

rivegauche · 17-03-2019 9:08pm

ch-aviation is raising the possibility of an AOC for Ryanair Spain.
If the aim of some with seniority is to get a base in Spain then they might be disappointed if that part of Ryanair operates under a difference AOC

IngazZagni · 17-03-2019 10:47pm

rivegauche wrote: »

ch-aviation is raising the possibility of an AOC for Ryanair Spain.
If the aim of some with seniority is to get a base in Spain then they might be disappointed if that part of Ryanair operates under a difference AOC

What exactly is your point? Also how do you know that seniority doesn’t transfer through different AOC’s?

rivegauche · 17-03-2019 11:20pm

If that AOC comes in to existence then pilots from elsewhere will probably only be allowed move as Direct Entry applicants and they won't be taking their old salary package with them.
Multiple AOCs will make the Ryanair family of Brands better able to withstand Industrial Action and give cadets in the Iberian peninsula some meaningful chance of career development within Ryanair.
Considering the tenor of your response I think that you know this as well as I do and it irks you.

IngazZagni · 18-03-2019 3:40pm

Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's the right thing to do and that's what I'm questioning. A few airlines across Europe operate under multiple AOC's but yet have one internal seniority system. Why can't Ryanair? If the company and its staff went to a lot of trouble to create new agreements which are, as far as I can see being signed across their network then why would they do something to jeopardise these agreements and thus risk further industrial disputes? I don't see any benefit to it. Allow a hundred or so direct entry pilots to skip the queue and piss off a couple thousand. How does that make sense? Would you think that is a fair system?

If what you suggest is true, I can't believe people would want to work under this oppressive management regime which is why I don't really believe it. There has to be give and take to create a fair system and prevent the high levels of staff turnover seen in the past which led to thousands of flight cancellations and indeed just general dissatisfaction amongst Ryanair staff.

View Profile · 18-03-2019 5:49pm

IngazZagni wrote:

If what you suggest is true, I can't believe people would want to work under this oppressive management regime which is why I don't really believe it. There has to be give and take to create a fair system and prevent the high levels of staff turnover seen in the past which led to thousands of flight cancellations and indeed just general dissatisfaction amongst Ryanair staff.

That seems to be the sad truth of the matter. Ryanair are willing to spend a fortune and create new AOCs just to avoid paying staff properly. They are so hell bent on controlling their staff that all business logic goes out the window.

They don't realise that a company like Ryanair can flourish with a healthy management/employee relationship but MOL is incapable of accepting this truth. It's his way or the high way!

L1011 · 18-03-2019 6:09pm

Some of this decision may be ensuring they can run UK-Spain routes without UK and hence Sterling costs particularly if they become erratic/unpredictable. Spain is likely to remain cheaper than the UK even in a crisis; and most costs are either in Euro or in a currency for which the Euro looks likely to be more stable (USD aircraft costs)

0lddog · 18-03-2019 9:27pm

Has :

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/ryanair-challenges-irish-tax-law-in-bid-to-finalise-staff-agreements-1.3718883

been decided ?

If it went against Ryanair then it may be another motivation for these new AOCs

Idbatterim · 10-04-2019 9:07pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/grounding-of-boeing-737-max-8s-could-cost-ryanair-10m-this-year-1.3855559

While they saw “little cheer on the horizon”, the analysts found that one positive catalyst for the share price could be if the Michael O’Leary-led airline migrated its Max 8 order to Max 10s. They added there were “limitations” on the 197-seat capacity jet and found that a 230-240 seater aircraft would be more suitable.

do you guys think ryanair might go with a 230-40 seater?

EICVD · 11-04-2019 7:05pm

I was talking to Michael O’Leary on Sunday evening, he said it’s highly likely Ryanair will operate the larger aircraft. Seriously considering a joint order of 321neos for Ryan & Lauda after the Max debacle. If it wasn’t for the grounding they’d have already ordered Max 10s

Artane2002 · 11-04-2019 10:17pm

I just had two pleasant enough journeys on Ryanair over the past few days from DUB to BCN and back. This was my first time on them since March 2013, when our flight to London was delayed by 6 hours due to the snow there. The crew was friendly on both flights. I was on EI-EPC for the first flight with the older cabin and there was a beautiful sunrise and we saw the Pyrenees too. A rather uneventful flight too, unlike the second flight except the landing, which was smooth but we braked very suddenly.

I had EI-FRL last night with the newer cabin. I found the legroom to be tolerable on the flights. The seats that I had on FRL (20A moved to 26B) were hard to get used to initially because you could feel the plastic pressed on your back. A woman had a fit because someone took her seat. The flight was slightly delayed (took off 44 mins late) due to a 5 minute arrival delay from Dublin because of traffic (FRL was 10th in the queue according to the captain). We taxied for 15 minutes to get to the runway when we pushed back, 15 minutes of constant taxiing, we didn't stop at all. It was quite fun taxiing nonstop for that long. Then, as soon as we took off, the cabin turned very hot as if it wasn't warm enough. The crew did their best though to cool it down, which they succeeded in doing around 10 minutes after take off. To my annoyance, the seatbelt signs were left on for the whole 2:18 hour flight. We landed on runway 10 with a 17 minute delay and we had one of the roughest landings I've ever experienced (I've been on over 50 flights probably). Our wing tilted from the left to right before landing and our engine got louder so I thought we would go around, which would have been a first for me. It took a good 20 minutes to get off the plane after we landed though.

I guess this was the most appropriate place to share my experience with them... Overall, I would say Ryanair is not as bad as people make it out to be, certainly not for a 2 hour flight anyway. And if this is of any relevance, this is coming from a guy who's most regular airline is Turkish Airlines.

Roanmore · 14-04-2019 12:08pm

Anybody having issues booking flights?
Put all the info in but when it comes to paying it freezes.
I tried a number of browsers, different devices and the ryanair app and had the same issue each time.

fed_u · 17-04-2019 8:02pm

Haven't flown Ryanair in some time so had some fun looking at baggage and seating changes! didn't realise it was no longer free for bags going in the hold - is now the same cost as priority or am I missing something?? As for random seats ðŸ˜‚

LeChienMefiant · 17-04-2019 8:13pm

fed_u wrote: »

Haven't flown Ryanair in some time so had some fun looking at baggage and seating changes! didn't realise it was no longer free for bags going in the hold - is now the same cost as priority or am I missing something?? As for random seats ðŸ˜‚

You get free carry on luggage, but it gets tagged and put in the hold at the gate.

Edit: policy has changed. One free bag on board, but it's handbag size or laptop. No second bag free anymore.

Credit Checker Moose · 17-04-2019 8:16pm

No, it is not free.

kevinandrew · 17-04-2019 8:27pm

Small Bag - Free
Standard Cabin Bag / Priority Boarding - €6 to €10
10kg Checked Bag - €10 to €12 or €25 at the gate
20kg Checked Bag - €25 to €40

There is no longer any free luggage with Ryanair, the maximum you can bring without being charged is one small bag such as a backpack, everything else is charged for in one form or another. If you want a standard cabin bag, you must buy priority boarding. If you chance it and turn up at the gate with a bag you haven't paid for the staff might check it in for free but the official rule is a €25 fee and I've seen it enforced a lot more recently.
Ryanair had become very aware of people getting around the rules.

Roanmore · 17-04-2019 8:40pm

Roanmore wrote: »

Anybody having issues booking flights?
Put all the info in but when it comes to paying it freezes.
I tried a number of browsers, different devices and the ryanair app and had the same issue each time.

I discovered what my issue was after finally getting through to a booking agent.

The option I wanted was sold out, no priority boarding available (not bothered) but it still allowed me to choose the option and go forward to pay but stayed in a loop until it timed out.

Chris_5339762 · 18-04-2019 8:24pm

My 72 and 73 year old parents just booked flights with Ryanair. They're finding the options very confusing. (I set them right, but anyway). The system of footwell bag free, or Priority Boarding that just happens to get you access to the overhead bins, or then the same weight bag just checked in and then after all that the reserved seat that happens to get you 60-day online check in. Especially confusing when all they want to do is print a boarding pass NOW or check in at an airport. And don't have smartphones or any real wish to use the Ryanair app.

Aer Lingus is simpler but more expensive (and doesn't fly where they need to fly).

Is the whole Ryanair system just getting that little bit too complicated for the average (or slightly old and decrepit) Joe?

john boye · 19-04-2019 11:26am

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Is the whole Ryanair system just getting that little bit too complicated for the average (or slightly old and decrepit) Joe?

I'm inclined to say yes. I used to fly with them fairly regularly and it was grand but haven't done so for about 5 years now and without recent experience of them it just seems so needlessly complicated now. I've no doubt it's fine and clear if you use them regularly but it must be a bit off-putting to someone who isn't used to them.

gucci · 19-04-2019 1:47pm

I have flown with Ryanair couple of times in last few weeks (BHX into DUB) after not having the pleasure for a few years. I found the booking experience pretty tricky to comprehend also, and I would see myself as pretty IT and Airport literate

In fairness as someone who has booked Ryanair for plenty of years, i always double and treble check every tick box before commiting to the pay now button.

The actual flights experience were perfectly adequate, and the staff were all very pleasant. Overall a positive experience.

There was a few people in each of the flights on the UK side pinged in the cue for having the larger bag than allowed and brought out to pay an additional fee.

kevinandrew · 19-04-2019 3:21pm

Ryanair has undoubtably become slightly more complicated to deal with in recent years.

The launch of ‘Always Getting Better’ in 2014 came with many genuine and effective improvements such as the new app, free cabin bags, 30 day free check in and competitive seat fees. While great for passengers, it was difficult for Ryanair as they experienced increased boarding times, a decline in punctuality and a slowing in ancillary revenue growth when compared to rivals.

Ryanair responded with harsher rules for baggage, not once, not twice but three times in the space of two years which confused passengers and staff alike. Early check in is gone unless you pay and priority boarding is higher priced. The app has turned into a mini version of their website with distracting adverts and graphics, the ‘MyRyanair’ membership has proven to be pointless and the highly anticipated “new” on board menu is identical to the old one!

On the plus side fares continue to be low, punctuality has improved and the operation recovered incredibly well following the roster mishap. On board service is still typically Ryanair, nothing fancy but effective and there’s very rarely an issue. The leisure and business plus fares add flexibility.

Henry Ford III · 20-04-2019 8:00am

I flew with them last weekend. Perfectly adequate although both flights were marginally late.

cloudhopper19 · 21-04-2019 4:38am

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

My 72 and 73 year old parents just booked flights with Ryanair. They're finding the options very confusing. (I set them right, but anyway). The system of footwell bag free, or Priority Boarding that just happens to get you access to the overhead bins, or then the same weight bag just checked in and then after all that the reserved seat that happens to get you 60-day online check in. Especially confusing when all they want to do is print a boarding pass NOW or check in at an airport. And don't have smartphones or any real wish to use the Ryanair app.

Aer Lingus is simpler but more expensive (and doesn't fly where they need to fly).

Is the whole Ryanair system just getting that little bit too complicated for the average (or slightly old and decrepit) Joe?

How could AerLingus be more expensive when tou have just said they don’t fly to the airport you need? What are you comparing it with.

duskyjoe · 21-04-2019 11:16pm

I have no probs with FR......the leg room is tight for a 6’2 lump of lad like me but other than that it’s grand. I keep buying flights with FR as they are so cheap and then don’t bother turning up for half of them.....another way they make money I suppose.

Chris_5339762 · 22-04-2019 6:05pm

cloudhopper19 wrote: »

How could AerLingus be more expensive when tou have just said they don’t fly to the airport you need? What are you comparing it with.

Well, they're going to Gatwick with Ryanair as there is no Aer Lingus flight from Cork - Gatwick for some reason. They could go into Southampton with Aer Lingus (until May anyway when they kill that route), so that was their expensive alternative.

EICVD · 22-04-2019 7:21pm

Aul DCL is on the way to PMI to pick me up, nice to catch a flight on the ‘oddball’

Rawr · 22-04-2019 7:43pm

EICVD wrote: »

Aul DCL is on the way to PMI to pick me up, nice to catch a flight on the ‘oddball’

(Looks up EI-DCL)

It almost looks like Boeing did a last minute branding job on that one. Like they were a 738 short on an order and went:

"Screw it, there's no time! Get one of our demonstration models and just re-paint the tail!!!"
"What if they complain?"
"I dunno...tell them it's an anniversary special or something!

EICVD · 22-04-2019 8:30pm

Rawr wrote: »

(Looks up EI-DCL)

It almost looks like Boeing did a last minute branding job on that one. Like they were a 738 short on an order and went:

"Screw it, there's no time! Get one of our demonstration models and just re-paint the tail!!!"
"What if they complain?"
"I dunno...tell them it's an anniversary special or something!

The original Boeing livery was better too

Blut2 · 22-04-2019 10:39pm

Is there a story behind the weird livery on EI-DCL?

billie1b · 22-04-2019 11:19pm

Blut2 wrote: »

Is there a story behind the weird livery on EI-DCL?

It was the 800th 737-800 to come off the factory line, so they put it in Boeing house colours, it just so happened to be for Ryanair

IngazZagni · 23-04-2019 3:38pm

It was originally in a different older Boeing livery which looked much better partly because it included the tail. I guess Ryanair realised it cost more money to paint the tail differently to the rest of the fleet.

https://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/110700/ei-dcl-ryanair-boeing-737-800/

marno21 · 26-04-2019 12:53pm

First FR 737 MAX is now painted in Seattle

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1121630236162973697

trellheim · 26-04-2019 1:52pm

wonder how long that bird is going to sit on the ground

LiamaDelta · 02-05-2019 6:58pm

Anyone know if ryanair allow you to buy/change seats after you've checked in online?

VG31 · 02-05-2019 7:38pm

LiamaDelta wrote: »

Anyone know if ryanair allow you to buy/change seats after you've checked in online?

I've only flown with them once in the last two years or so, but I'm fairly sure I had the option to change seats after I'd checked in.

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