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Al Porter Scandal

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    #122
    Saint_Mel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    Snowfire wrote:
    Maybe she's joking....


    Female comedians are rarely funny!


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    #123
    Brego888
    Registered Users Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Brego888


    TheChizler wrote: »
    What are the actual reported allegations against him? Haven't seen any details, the times is behind a paywall. Slight hyperbole (only slight) but the general reaction seems to be pretty much "I don't like his comedy/persona so it must all be true".

    https://twitter.com/IrishBrian420/status/931789191553404929


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    #124
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Am I the only one who finds his stand-up funny? :(

    To me, 3 minutes of it is funny, then I’m conscious that there’s a bitter nasty malicious side to him that’s quite common amongst a lot of older, hard bitten, more cynical “queens” who can no longer conceal their loneliness and discontent .
    I think the truth is that Al really doesn’t like a lot of people and these “assaults” were not sexual advances badly managed, but actual physical attempts to physically hurt other men.
    I think he might have been fairly confident, and still might be, that if anyone actually complained or fought back he could twist it about to make himself a victim of homophobia.
    The current atmosphere here would support him in that.


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    #125
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    I’m sorry I can’t take this serious. Some gay lad drops the hand on me and he gets dropped. Alleging sexual assault would be the last thing I’d do.


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    #126
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 35,634 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    You hear stories of old couples talking about how they met, and so many times I hear the one
    '' he just would not take no for an answer'' How the guy would pursue the girl he wants and in time they'd date and fall in love.
    Today it's sexual harassment.


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    #127
    jimosterberg
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭jimosterberg


    splinter65 wrote: »
    To me, 3 minutes of it is funny, then I’m conscious that there’s a bitter nasty malicious side to him that’s quite common amongst a lot of older, hard bitten, more cynical “queens” who can no longer conceal their loneliness and discontent .
    I think the truth is that Al really doesn’t like a lot of people and these “assaults” were not sexual advances badly managed, but actual physical attempts to physically hurt other men.
    I think he might have been fairly confident, and still might be, that if anyone actually complained or fought back he could twist it about to make himself a victim of homophobia.
    The current atmosphere here would support him in that.

    To me your post comes across as homophobic and angry. I've never bothered much with Al Porter on TV or radio. If these allegations are true then he's a disgrace and it will be the end of his career.


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    #128
    TheDavester
    Registered Users Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭TheDavester


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    You hear stories of old couples talking about how they met, and so many times I hear the one
    '' he just would not take no for an answer'' How the guy would pursue the girl he wants and in time they'd date and fall in love.
    Today it's sexual harassment.

    think theres a difference between persistently asking a couple of times for a date or groping someone's genitals


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    #129
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Brego888 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/IrishBrian420/status/931789191553404929

    Pretty bad stuff and the same.louis ck never actually touched anyone and his career is in tatters.


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    #130
    Eggonyerface
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Eggonyerface


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    Something about the royal family and a bread bin.

    Hiya!


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    #131
    duffman13
    Registered Users Posts: 8,946 ✭✭✭duffman13


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I’m sorry I can’t take this serious. Some gay lad drops the hand on me and he gets dropped. Alleging sexual assault would be the last thing I’d do.

    I think you need to take the context of these situations into account, each time appears to have been in a comedy club environment and they've worked together. Id say they were more shocked it happened as oppposed to throwing a dig.


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    #132
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    splinter65 wrote: »
    To me, 3 minutes of it is funny, then I’m conscious that there’s a bitter nasty malicious side to him that’s quite common amongst a lot of older, hard bitten, more cynical “queens” who can no longer conceal their loneliness and discontent .
    I think the truth is that Al really doesn’t like a lot of people and these “assaults” were not sexual advances badly managed, but actual physical attempts to physically hurt other men.
    I think he might have been fairly confident, and still might be, that if anyone actually complained or fought back he could twist it about to make himself a victim of homophobia.
    The current atmosphere here would support him in that.

    Older? He's 24, you know , haha


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    #133
    AttentionBebe
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭AttentionBebe


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I’m sorry I can’t take this serious. Some gay lad drops the hand on me and he gets dropped. Alleging sexual assault would be the last thing I’d do.

    When someone gropes you out of nowhere you're in shock for a moment and most people just freeze. Very easy to say you'd deck him or whatever but in reality it's over before your brain processes what happened. That's why so many get away with it.


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    #134
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    duffman13 wrote: »
    I think you need to take the context of these situations into account, each time appears to have been in a comedy club environment and they've worked together. Id say they were more shocked it happened as oppposed to throwing a dig.

    Oh I’d be shocked too. But deal with it there and then. Or next time you see him. Why come out publicly as an assault victim? How does that deal with the conflict better?


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    #135
    pjohnson
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    duffman13 wrote: »
    I think you need to take the context of these situations into account, each time appears to have been in a comedy club environment and they've worked together. Id say they were more shocked it happened as oppposed to throwing a dig.

    Plus if you hit him it'd be "XX is a gay basher" and XX would have their career ended while Al milks the publicity.


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    #136
    ricero
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    Fair play to them men for having constraint and not knocking the ****e out of porter when he touched them


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    #137
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    AttentionBebe wrote: »
    When someone gropes you out of nowhere you're in shock for a moment and most people just freeze. Very easy to say you'd deck him or whatever but in reality it's over before your brain processes what happened. That's why so many get away with it.

    Man groping woman 100% I agree.


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    #138
    Hammer89
    Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Eggonyerface wrote: »
    Hiya!

    :D


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    #139
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    jimosterberg wrote: »
    To me your post comes across as homophobic and angry. I've never bothered much with Al Porter on TV or radio. If these allegations are true then he's a disgrace and it will be the end of his career.

    So your not really aware of the personality I’m referring to or the character that he portrays but because he’s gay and I’ve criticized him you’ve decided that I’m being homophobic (I’m not even remotely afraid of Al Porter) and that I’m angry.


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    #140
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Oh I’d be shocked too. But deal with it there and then. Or next time you see him. Why come out publicly as an assault victim? How does that deal with the conflict better?

    How would you deal with it? You throw a punch at him you get done for assault, if you are trying to make a career in comedy and you are violent to an established name it's bye bye career.


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    #141
    paulbok
    Registered Users Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Don Kiddick wrote: »
    You should be ashamed of yourself :D

    Ah leave his mum alone


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    #142
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Older? He's 24, you know , haha

    Yes. The nasty side can be common amongst older performers and is unusual in people his age, that’s what I meant to say.
    I have a lot of experience in the performing arts.


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    #143
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    eviltwin wrote: »
    How would you deal with it? You throw a punch at him you get done for assault, if you are trying to make a career in comedy and you are violent to an established name it's bye bye career.

    Grab the Cnut by the throat and make him regret it. His word against mine. No scars. Look I’m not a hard man but I would defend myself if physically touched.


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    #144
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Grab the Cnut by the throat and make him regret it. His word against mine. No scars. Look I’m not a hard man but I would defend myself if physicallg touched.

    Sindo headline “brave Al Porter tells Barry Egan how he coped with vile attempt to choke him to death in violent homophobic attack”.


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    #145
    pitifulgod
    Registered Users Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭pitifulgod


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Oh I’d be shocked too. But deal with it there and then. Or next time you see him. Why come out publicly as an assault victim? How does that deal with the conflict better?

    Well by coming out about it, it might prevent the individual doing it to other people and prevent any escalation in such behaviour in the future. I don't know how I'd react in a scenario like that, I'd probably be shocked and be very nervous of seeing the person again rather than punching them on another occasion.


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    #146
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Sindo headline “brave Al Porter tells Barry Egan how he coped with vile attempt to choke him to death in violent homophobic attack”.

    I accept i don’t have a public reputation to protect.

    But still.. “yeah I choked the ducker because he groped me.”


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    #147
    Richard Bingham
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Richard Bingham


    Unbelievable that that both social and traditional media so quiet on Ireland's sex scandal this morning - not a dicky bird on rte.ie. MORE UN-FNCKING-BELIEVABLE BIAS IN OUR MEDIA.

    Ireland gets it's own sex scandal, with allegations far worse than some of the recent sh1t storms in the US (as someone referenced above - Louis CK who didn't lay a hand on anyone for example). It breaks late on Friday evening and it's not even trending on Twitter the next morning? All the big mouthed liberals on Twitter have literally disappeared overnight. Amazeballs :)

    The Liberal sh1theads didn't think that one of their own would get caught in their nasty little trap when they were priming it a few weeks back.


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    #148
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    pitifulgod wrote: »
    Well by coming out about it, it might prevent the individual doing it to other people and prevent any escalation in such behaviour in the future. I don't know how I'd react in a scenario like that, I'd probably be shocked and be very nervous of seeing the person again rather than punching them on another occasion.

    I suppose there is more that one way of dealing with each situation. God though I’d nearly kill him.


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    #149
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    ^^^^the silence is deafening.


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    #150
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Richard Bingham wrote: »
    Unbelievable that that both social and traditional media so quiet on Ireland's sex scandal this morning - not a dicky bird on rte.ie. MORE UN-FNCKING-BELIEVABLE BIAS IN OUR MEDIA.

    Ireland gets it's own sex scandal, with allegations far worse than some of the recent sh1t storms in the US (as someone referenced above - Louis CK who didn't lay a hand on anyone for example). It breaks late on Friday evening and it's not even trending on Twitter the next morning? All the big mouthed liberals on Twitter have literally disappeared overnight. Amazeballs :)

    The Liberal sh1theads didn't think that one of their own would get caught in their nasty little trap when they were priming it a few weeks back.

    Its definitely not bias on the part of the national media. The only bias they are guilty of is only reporting on what people respond to. If the general public do come to care about this, which i agree with you that they probably wont due to him being gay, the media will report on it . They don't care about the story themselves either way


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    #151
    jimosterberg
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭jimosterberg


    splinter65 wrote: »
    So your not really aware of the personality I’m referring to or the character that he portrays but because he’s gay and I’ve criticized him you’ve decided that I’m being homophobic (I’m not even remotely afraid of Al Porter) and that I’m angry.

    "there’s a bitter nasty malicious side to him that’s quite common amongst a lot of older, hard bitten, more cynical “queens” who can no longer conceal their loneliness and discontent"

    That bit came across as homophobic to me. It was nothing to do with you criticizing Al Porter and him being gay, more that it's common for "Queens" to be "bitter, nasty, malicious .....hardbitten, cynical"


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