Strong Winds, Heavy Rain Wintry Weather : Sat 2nd to Mon 4th March 2019

PukkaStukka · 03-03-2019 7:48pm

gerrybhoy wrote: »

Great time for my boiler to go breasts up....kids loving the snow in D15

If it's a condenser boiler, check the small pipe outside that drains the condensate out of it. It may be iced up and blocked

dsmythy · 03-03-2019 7:57pm

Even when I saw well inland with snow I figured I'd get from Swords to Ballymun the back way in good old fashioned rain. Snow really is a pain to forecast. Road wasn't too bad when taken sensibly though I got a hit of a load of snow off a passing truck to focus the mind.

DOCARCH · 03-03-2019 7:58pm

Back to sleet now in Dublin 16.

Oscar Bravo · 03-03-2019 8:02pm

Another met update.
Status Yellow - Snow-ice warning for Ireland

Update. Snow clearing eastern counties early tonight. Cold countrywide overnight, with widespread frost, icy stretches and some lying snow.

Valid: Sunday 03 March 2019 19:00 to Monday 04 March 2019 08:00

Issued: Sunday 03 March 2019 18:34

Updated: Sunday 03 March 2019 18:34

mikeecho · 03-03-2019 8:05pm

PukkaStukka wrote: »

If it's a condenser boiler, check the small pipe outside that drains the condensate out of it. It may be iced up and blocked

https://www.itv.com/news/2018-03-02/how-to-fix-your-frozen-boiler-without-having-to-call-out-a-plumber/

sryanbruen · 03-03-2019 8:07pm

Had some great crack in the park with sliding down the hills and snowball fights, was the most fun I had in a good while!

gerrybhoy · 03-03-2019 8:08pm

PukkaStukka wrote: »

If it's a condenser boiler, check the small pipe outside that drains the condensate out of it. It may be iced up and blocked

Good shout much appreciated

Kermit.de.frog · 03-03-2019 8:13pm

Rain here now near Dublin Airport as the front is clearing in to the Irish sea now.

kenmc · 03-03-2019 8:19pm

Is that it then ? 😥😥😥
Or will we wake up to oodles of white gold? 😍😍😍

Loughc · 03-03-2019 8:20pm

kenmc wrote: »

Is that it then ? ðŸ˜¥ðŸ˜¥ðŸ˜¥
Or will we wake up to oodles of white gold? ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜

That’s it for another year champ.

See ye all March 2020.

john why · 03-03-2019 8:23pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Rain here now near Dublin Airport as the front is clearing in to the Irish sea now.

Looks like GL got it wrong again.

MidMan25 · 03-03-2019 8:25pm

john why wrote: »

Looks like GL got it wrong again.

Kutebride · 03-03-2019 8:25pm

Well that was eventful drive on the M6 from Galway to Meath between 4-6pm. All good, arrived safely to destination.

Gaoth Laidir · 03-03-2019 8:26pm

The most horrible and worthless covering of wet slush I can remember here. I'd have much preferred if it had stayed raining as walking around now is just rotten with deep puddles of slush.

Loughc · 03-03-2019 8:27pm

sryanbruen wrote: »

Had some great crack in the park with sliding down the hills and snowball fights, was the most fun I had in a good while!

Well needed after that dreadful winter. Way to go Spring for delivering again this year!

Kermit.de.frog · 03-03-2019 8:28pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

The most horrible and worthless covering of wet slush I can remember here. I'd have much preferred if it had stayed raining as walking around now is just rotten with deep puddles of slush.

Ok grumpy

Amirani · 03-03-2019 8:31pm

Kutebride wrote: »

Well that was eventful drive on the M6 from Galway to Meath between 4-6pm. All good, arrived safely to destination.

M7 was nuts. Bailed off at Newbridge and went the back roads through Athgarvan back to N7.

Assetbacked · 03-03-2019 8:32pm

Wow, thanks Met Éireann for giving a warning twenty six minutes before it is due to happen, especially something like an ice warning! How could they not have issued this warning or predicted it earlier?

m17 · 03-03-2019 8:33pm

Naas road 03/03/19

Gaoth Laidir · 03-03-2019 8:34pm

john why wrote: »

Looks like GL got it wrong again.

Yep, and what?

Kermit.de.frog · 03-03-2019 8:38pm

These situations are very marginal and difficult to predict for anyone.

Could easily have gone the other way today as it has done on a couple of these frontal occasions this winter.

sryanbruen · 03-03-2019 8:38pm

Loughc wrote: »

Well needed after that dreadful winter. Way to go Spring for delivering again this year!

I got my fix of snow in the mountains on 2 February so this was a huge bonus :P .

My third favourite snow event of the decade perhaps after late 2010 and Feb/Mar 2018.

The daffs certainly weren't happy.

https://twitter.com/SnowbieWx/status/1102289844036952070

irishrover99 · 03-03-2019 8:40pm

john why wrote: »

Looks like GL got it wrong again.

I think that thread for parameters for guaranteed snow needs to be removed from the sticky thread section ðŸ˜€.

john why · 03-03-2019 8:41pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

These situations are very marginal and difficult to predict for anyone.

Could easily have gone the other way today as it has done on a couple of these frontal occasions this winter.

In the frog we trust

Pwindedd · 03-03-2019 8:41pm

Well a 1 hr trip to Garristown and back just took 2 and a half - When I left it was raining.... And then Ninja snow ! Only got one pic when I could stop plus a few hairasing moments when I couldn't stop

MidMan25 · 03-03-2019 8:44pm

Tough one to predict and can understand how people's opinions differed on potential. Important to respect other's predictions though.

SleetAndSnow · 03-03-2019 8:49pm

Can already see Ice on the cars here in Cork City. Gonna be a cold one.

Rebelbrowser · 03-03-2019 8:55pm

john why wrote: »

Looks like GL got it wrong again.

In fairness he doesn't get too many wrong all the same.

nacho libre · 03-03-2019 8:56pm

cnocbui wrote: »

I am officially declaring this a major snow incident.

50mm on the roof of the car

it's not proper snow, though:p Proper snow has to be dry and sourced from the north east to satisfy some posters:p
I had a feeling nature would throw up a surprise after the February's warmth

amadangomor · 03-03-2019 9:00pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

These situations are very marginal and difficult to predict for anyone.

Could easily have gone the other way today as it has done on a couple of these frontal occasions this winter.

Perhaps we need a potential threat/risk warning system, a range of outcomes to a forecast given with a worst case scenario included if extreme weather has a realistic chance of happening.

Are Met E afraid if they are not definite in their forecasts they will lose the public's confidence?

HighLine · 03-03-2019 9:03pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Not sure where this idea of snow is coming from. Certainly above 300-400 metres, but lower down it's more cold rain/maybe sleet. There's no cold to speak of and the northwesterly backedge airmass won't support the snow some are hoping for. No soundings showing anything close to low-level snow. I think Met Éireann were a little unclear when they mentioned snow above and should have said on mountains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqs1YXfdtGE

Mount Vesuvius · 03-03-2019 9:13pm

To be fair to GL, Met Eireann also initially gave snow above 300 metres, that was then changed to 200 metres and changed again. This was a tricky one. A nowcast.

Got loads of heavy snow fall myself, here near Kilcullen, kildare. Brought last year right back.

Villain · 03-03-2019 9:16pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Not sure where this idea of snow is coming from. Certainly above 300-400 metres, but lower down it's more cold rain/maybe sleet. There's no cold to speak of and the northwesterly backedge airmass won't support the snow some are hoping for. No soundings showing anything close to low-level snow. I think Met Éireann were a little unclear when they mentioned snow above and should have said on mountains.

The auld weather models do get it right it every so often

Kermit.de.frog · 03-03-2019 9:18pm

amadangomor wrote: »

Perhaps we need a potential threat/risk warning system, a range of outcomes to a forecast given with a worst case scenario included if extreme weather has a realistic chance of happening.

Are Met E afraid if they are not definite in their forecasts they will lose the public's confidence?

It's difficult because it's so marginal you can end up looking foolish.

I said last night the risk of snow was the biggest risk with the system but that's little more than a punt based on precarious model guidance.

That goes wrong as it could easily have and I look like a buffoon and GL gets it 100% right.

It's difficult to make a call because no one wants to be embarrassed.

Also ME are professional organisation with clients and you particularly don't want to look foolish when your livelihood depends on it!

Chris_5339762 · 03-03-2019 9:19pm

Even the most optimistic/pessimistic of the weather models did not suggest heavy snow as early as it hit.

Dublin to Cork took me 4 1/2 hours this afternoon... left Dublin at 130pm, fine to the other side of the roadworks then deteriorated from the Curragh onwards. Crashes on the M8 meant they closed the road at the toll plaza at Portlaoise and only let traffic through when it was cleared. Then I couldn't get above 60 - 70kmh until after Cashel. One lane open with tracks to follow but that was about it.

Got south of Cashel and it turned to rain, back up to full speed again. Got down to Cork in the sun and there was a rainbow.

Gaoth Laidir · 03-03-2019 9:31pm

Villain wrote: »

The auld weather models do get it right it every so often

First thing this morning I checked a range of soundings for my location for this afternoon and the consensus was a snowline around 300 metres. Then I checked the 12Z as it was snowing here and this is what I got; a perfect wet snow sounding. The wbt of the lowest few hundred metres right along the 0-degree isotherm. So the models didn't get it that right at first, but still, I didn't expect it to could down quite as much. A degree here, a degree there, snow or rain, it's just not fair.

sicknotexi · 03-03-2019 9:34pm

Pity the snow stopped but I have to say it was fairly impressive snowfall for 3 hours. The heaviest snowfall I seen in daylight hours in a long time, including last years beast.

pad199207 · 03-03-2019 9:37pm

Mount Vesuvius wrote: »

To be fair to GL, Met Eireann also initially gave snow above 300 metres, that was then changed to 200 metres and changed again. This was a tricky one. A nowcast.

Got loads of heavy snow fall myself, here near Kilcullen, kildare. Brought last year right back.

Yeah Kildare got the fair whack today.

Kermit.de.frog · 03-03-2019 9:44pm

In terms of the models and how they handled today - both ECM and Hirlam more or less spot on 48 hours in advance. Impressive handling of a setup that relied somewhat on evaporative cooling as well to cheat the other maybe slightly less than favorable atmospheric conditions. Not a notably cold air mass. So, yeah, impressive.

For Dubs you see the difference when the wind is offshore as opposed to onshore in these setups. On shore breeze and it's rain from start to finish.

Been done over so many times in this synoptic setup because the wind has not shifted off shore in time

guil · 03-03-2019 9:46pm

I had to drive from the Curragh to Newbridge this afternoon to collect one of the kids, it should usually take 20-30 mins round trip but took nearly 2 hours. Madness Ted.

munsterlegend · 03-03-2019 9:51pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

First thing this morning I checked a range of soundings for my location for this afternoon and the consensus was a snowline around 300 metres. Then I checked the 12Z as it was snowing here and this is what I got; a perfect wet snow sounding. The wbt of the lowest few hundred metres right along the 0-degree isotherm. So the models didn't get it that right at first, but still, I didn't expect it to could down quite as much. A degree here, a degree there, snow or rain, it's just not fair.

Don’t beat yourself up GL. As Kermit said the weather cheated!!

Marengo · 03-03-2019 9:53pm

Gaoth Laidir is an excellent weather forecaster on all sorts of events. But his one (very small) weakness is frontal snow situations.

I remember the early hours of Sunday 10th December 2017. Met EIreann had forecast rain, turning to sleet then snow over large parts of the country. Around 1am most of the charts were green, no pink at all. Gaoth said I just can't see this, it's not going to happen. He seems to lose faith in some of these situations:)

January Snowster is the opposite, he gets overly excited with very, very marginal setups:D

Now i'm an amateur and it's easy be the hurler on the ditch.

Fair play to Gaoth, January Snowster and all the top posters for having the courage to forecast. Otherwise we'd have nothing on our threads.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-03-2019 9:54pm

Large temp gradient across Ireland.

https://twitter.com/MattHugo81/status/1102251908029472769?s=20

MikeSoys · 03-03-2019 10:01pm

so is the snow over and ..just more rain accross the country overnight? or is there still snow expected..traffic tomorrow (sigh)....

sicknotexi · 03-03-2019 10:02pm

Marengo wrote: »

Gaoth Laidir is an excellent weather forecaster on all sorts of events. But his one (very small) weakness is frontal snow situations.

I remember the early hours of Sunday 10th December 2017. Met EIreann had forecast rain, turning to sleet then snow over large parts of the country. Around 1am most of the charts were green, no pink at all. Gaoth said I just can't see this, it's not going to happen. He seems to lose faith in some of these situations:)

January Snowster is the opposite, he gets overly excited with very, very marginal setups:D

Now i'm an amateur and it's easy be the hurler on the ditch.

Fair play to Gaoth, January Snowster and all the top posters for having the courage to forecast. Otherwise we'd have nothing on our threads.

Agree, Gaoth Knows his stuff, no doubt about that.

One thing I will say though is that marginal events are often the best set up for heavy snowfall. The weather is one step(at least) ahead of the models, always important to remember that.

United road · 03-03-2019 10:12pm

GL may have called it wrong, no biggie.
When he was saying it was marginal, i thought ok, if he is right - no snow for my location, if he is wrong - a slushy mess for my location.
He is undoubtedly one to listen too.
Please look at MTs daily FC today, mentions high ground too.

GL was somewhat right, it slushed at lower levels, not snowed!
:-) :-)
Edit : joking

No interest in slushy events, maybe last year has spoiled me, but today was great to look at, but hearing the dripping all the while was so depressing

Not right the amount of posts highlighting he got a marginal set up wrong,

Oscar Bravo · 03-03-2019 10:14pm

Massive thanks to Meteorite58 for starting this thread and updating with his charts/thoughts throughout the past few days. spot on Meteorite

Takeshi_Kovacs · 03-03-2019 10:16pm

Stack Mts at sunset earlier
Snow line is about 150m asl

MidMan25 · 03-03-2019 10:17pm

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

Massive thanks to Meteorite58 for starting this thread and updating with his charts/thoughts throughout the past few days. spot on Meteorite

Meteorite is the man in fairness.

tikkamark · 03-03-2019 10:18pm

The gutters here can barely keep up with the speed of melting ice it’s gonna be gone come twelve tonight at this rate of thaw in Meath

Strong Winds, Heavy Rain Wintry Weather : Sat 2nd to Mon 4th March 2019

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