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Scrabble to ban the word "culchie" in America.

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  • #52
    Deadmou5e
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 111 ✭✭Deadmou5e


    andekwarhola wrote: »
    I prefer Mullah/Mullagh myself

    Mullah is definitely a Dublin thing, I never here anyone outside the pale say that


  • #53
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,535 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Deadmou5e wrote: »
    I was only joking btw! I’m from North Kerry so I’ve been called both most my whole life :D

    I'm only joking too! :pac:
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




  • #54
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Deadmou5e wrote: »
    Mullah is definitely a Dublin thing, I never here anyone outside the pale say that

    Seeing as it's a phrase used by Dublin people about people outside Dublin, you can kind of see how that might be the case alright.


  • #55
    Kylta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    Deadmou5e wrote: »
    Mullah is definitely a Dublin thing, I never here anyone outside the pale say that

    We use that against each other a lot growing up in dublin. I haven't heard it said in donkeys years. I love to know what the origins of the word is?


  • #56
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    I see "mick" is banned too.

    We'll have Christy Moore censored soon. (If "Christy" isn't abusive of course). "To where you're a Paddy, you're a Biddy, you're a M***"

    This could get very confusing tbh.

    I don't play scrabble, so I'll boycott it


  • #57
    Deadmou5e
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 111 ✭✭Deadmou5e


    Kylta wrote: »
    We use that against each other a lot growing up in dublin. I haven't heard it said in donkeys years. I love to know what the origins of the word is?

    Open to correction but I think it was originally to do with ‘moolah’ as in money, describing big farmers with big houses and big land. Remember reading about it once but was a long time ago.


  • #58
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Kylta wrote: »
    We use that against each other a lot growing up in dublin. I haven't heard it said in donkeys years. I love to know what the origins of the word is?

    Only ever heard it used in Dublin to describe country people.


  • #59
    Metric Tensor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    a culchie lives in an urban area outside Dublin

    We'd have called that a townie in our youth! The irony of a mile difference being completely lost on us of course!


  • #60
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    That list is gas craic.

    I'm going through it just trying to work out dirty anagrams. It's like the best dictionary ever.

    Other words banned - ****, cumming, cums, (but not "cum"), baldie, fatso, pissant, cocksucker, bat****. Knacker is still ok though.


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  • #61
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,766 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Knacker also has a non-offensive meaning, I suppose cum has one too, in Latin at least


  • #62
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    True - though does non-offensive trump offensive?

    I find that offensive tbh.


  • #63
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Collins Dictionary says it is derived from an incorrect pronunciation of the Mayo town Kiltimagh, when in fact it is derived from the Irish word 'coillte' meaning woods.

    As a culchie from Kiltimagh im going with Collins on this one. Round here it certainly isn't a derogatory word, it's a proud boast to call oneself a culchie. In Brendan Behan’s Confessions of an Irish Rebel, he refers to ‘the Culchiemachs, as we called the Irish-speaking people’


  • #64
    chosen1
    Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭chosen1


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    Or another way to put it is that a culchie lives in an urban area outside Dublin, while a bogger lives in a rural one. Bonus bogger points if you're farming stock.

    It's not really a serious thing though.

    Fairly common for lads in towns around the country to refer to countryside people as "culchies" and then they were "townies".

    I grew up in an area a couple of mile from a medium sized town and some of these townies would call us culchies. Half of them could probably see a herd of cows from their back window, but that didn't matter to them.


  • #65
    GetWithIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    As a culchie from Kiltimagh im going with Collins on this one. Round here it certainly isn't a derogatory word, it's a proud boast to call oneself a culchie. In Brendan Behan’s Confessions of an Irish Rebel, he refers to ‘the Culchiemachs, as we called the Irish-speaking people’
    Given that the Irish for Kiltimagh is Coillte Mach you’re both right.

    But you’re more right.


  • #66
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    It’s like how the people of Cork seem to think the place is called the Rebel county because they stood up to the British during the war of independence. It isn’t.

    It’s for their support of the House of York during the English civil war.

    Queenstown, or should I say Cork is more Jackeen than Dublin ever has been.


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  • #67
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Queenstown, or should I say Cork is more Jackeen than Dublin ever has been.


    Anywhere with successful League of Ireland clubs tend to have a history of plantation, garrisons, and a suspicion towards the culture, sports, and traditions of the native Gael.


  • #68
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Anywhere with successful League of Ireland clubs.
    Yeah, but he's talking about Cobh


  • #69
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    cdeb wrote: »
    Yeah, but he's talking about Cobh


    He said Cork in general. Cobh Ramblers, Bray Wanderers, Sligo Rovers are examples of those clubs that formed in port towns. Strong garrison towns.


  • #70
    housetypeb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    He said Cork in general. Cobh Ramblers, Bray Wanderers, Sligo Rovers are examples of those clubs that formed in port towns. Strong garrison towns.

    They haven't banned "tan" have they? :)


  • #71
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Silage muncher is still in effect


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  • #72
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    chosen1 wrote: »
    Fairly common for lads in towns around the country to refer to countryside people as "culchies" and then they were "townies".

    I grew up in an area a couple of mile from a medium sized town and some of these townies would call us culchies. Half of them could probably see a herd of cows from their back window, but that didn't matter to them.

    I am one such 'townie'.


  • #73
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,025 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Townies, and other “urban” dwelling culchies, are boggers.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • #74
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    Townies, and other “urban” dwelling culchies, are boggers.

    No, we are townies. Boggers live in the countryside. Culchies are a particular type of bogger.


  • #75
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    Townies, and other “urban” dwelling culchies, are boggers.


    MART - Mucksavages Against Racist Townies.


  • #76
    Kylta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    MART - Mucksavages Against Racist Townies.

    Muckmaggots against rural tossers, sounds better. That way you can fight against yourselves


  • #77
    boardise
    Registered Users Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭boardise


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Collins Dictionary says it is derived from an incorrect pronunciation of the Mayo town Kiltimagh, when in fact it is derived from the Irish word 'coillte' meaning woods.

    I thought it was a humorous abbreviation of 'culture' =a person of culture , culture vulture as it were. :D


  • #78
    Vita nova
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    I'm a culchie and it doesn't bother me, I'm just glad I'm not a bogger.
    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    Or another way to put it is that a culchie lives in an urban area outside Dublin, while a bogger lives in a rural one. Bonus bogger points if you're farming stock.

    It's not really a serious thing though.

    The dictionary definition of culchie is "an unsophisticated country person" and all things considered I think that's probably the most accurate definition I've seen.

    If you want to call yourself a culchie then knock yourself out but if you want to refer to everyone from rural or urban Ireland outside Dublin as culchies then go jump in the lake.


  • #79
    Mysterypunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    If a townie uses the word, then it's culchial appropriation, I would demand an apology if I were a culchie, and probably bring the culchie to the ploughing championships,(or the plough match if you are a culchie) to gain better understanding of the life of a culchie, we need to educate people, knowledge is power


  • #80
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Vita nova wrote: »
    The dictionary definition of culchie is "an unsophisticated country person" and all things considered I think that's probably the most accurate definition I've seen.

    A mythical creature steeped in lore


  • #81
    Kylta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    Truthfully can any country person tell me the last time they were called any kind of derogatory word to the face by a dub or a fellow culchie?


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  • #82
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Kylta wrote: »
    Muckmaggots against rural tossers, sounds better. That way you can fight against yourselves


    Amongst, surely?


  • #83
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Levathians of the Slurry


  • #84
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    biko wrote: »
    But Jackeen is still allowed

    I am a PROUD jackeen ...to me all it means is that you are a DUB.


  • #85
    Kylta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Amongst, surely?

    I'm a dub you were lucky to get against


  • #86
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    By the way culchie is short for cultured.


  • #87
    Kylta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    By the way culchie is short for cultured.

    Brilliant ring up scrabble and try not to be upset at their laughter


  • #88
    Conall Cernach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    By the way culchie is short for cultured.
    I always assumed that it had something to do with the word "agriculture". Not that I ever thought about it too much, that would be weird.


  • #89
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Deadmou5e wrote: »
    One foots their own turf, the other buys in it.
    I'm a pilot.


    The others cut the turf. And I pilot.


  • #90
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    By the way culchie is short for cultured.
    Like yoghurt ?


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  • #91
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Let them at it. A few hundred more words and I'll release a 'Cards Against Scrabble', make a killing from it. Only banned Scrabble words allowed.


  • #92
    Kylta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,457 ✭✭✭✭Kylta


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    Let them at it. A few hundred more words and I'll release a 'Cards Against Scrabble', make a killing from it. Only banned Scrabble words allowed.

    You would have to invent a dictionary to go with it. Because players would make up their own words? Can I recommend you put in geeface, cockjockey, junkieblowie, fracturedfeatures, you might actually have ti design a bigger board. Anyway best of look with it


  • #93
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    How can you ban words from a game where their eligibility is based on their presence in a dictionary?


  • #94
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Their eligibility is based on their presence in the Official Scrabble Words, afaik - Scrabble's own dictionary

    Edit - actually, it appears that Hasbro are putting it in the rules that slurs aren't allowed. Obviously you can do what you like when you're playing at home, but the Scrabble dictionary then comes into effect for official tournament play I guess


  • #95
    riclad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    It's not an insult its just slang for someone from
    the country. I don't think it's in wide use in America


  • #96
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    As the title says apparantly scrabble will ban culchie and other terms deemed offensive. How would yanks (maybe yank is now offensive sorry mods) know the word culchie or does it mean something different over there?
    They probably don't. The company has mined college-level dictionaries for words that are tagged 'slang, offensive' and has put them on a list. They probably don't even realise it's on their list.

    So nobody is really outraged here, except for those who like to be outraged by imagined outrage.


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  • #97
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,265 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    So nobody is really outraged here, except for those who like to be outraged by imagined outrage.
    Very little outrage on this thread as far as I can see.

    I think people like to be outraged at the imagined outrage of other outraged people :)

    It is daftly puritanical that (a) a word game is so far up its own hole it thinks it can define what it or isn't acceptable language and (b) they've rearranged the letters (except to accredited media) so people don't get notions and start calling each other "culchies"

    I think that point can be made without suggestions of outrage.


  • #98
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,516 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    chosen1 wrote: »
    Half of them could probably see a herd of cows from their back window, but that didn't matter to them.

    There's a picture of my sister in our back garden when she was about 2, cows in a field behind the fence and this was in the middle of Dublin surrounded by thousands of houses. The last farmer sold up and it became a school.

    Less than a km from the Red Cow on the Naas Road there are big fields with herds of cows...

    Scrap the cap!



  • #99
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,516 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Queenstown, or should I say Cork is more Jackeen than Dublin ever has been.

    Has a place called the English Market, and fawned over Lizzie a few years back to an amazing degree.

    Q. How to gain the adulation of Cork people?

    A. Burn down their city and wait 90 years.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #100
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Kylta wrote: »
    You would have to invent a dictionary to go with it. Because players would make up their own words? Can I recommend you put in geeface, cockjockey, junkieblowie, fracturedfeatures, you might actually have ti design a bigger board. Anyway best of look with it

    Rogers Profanisaurus is generally accepted as the standard reference.


  • #101
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    cdeb wrote: »
    Very little outrage on this thread as far as I can see.

    I think people like to be outraged at the imagined outrage of other outraged people :)

    It is daftly puritanical that (a) a word game is so far up its own hole it thinks it can define what it or isn't acceptable language and (b) they've rearranged the letters (except to accredited media) so people don't get notions and start calling each other "culchies"

    I think that point can be made without suggestions of outrage.

    Outraged by the outrage on behalf of those who fail to be outraged by the lack of outrage from those who should be outraged. Or something.


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