FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

FrancieBrady · 12-10-2020 2:46pm

christy c wrote: »

I am not excusing anything, 16 more posts? This is pathetic.

Stating that the pandemic is responsible for the chaos that a Tanaiste is actually responsible for is an excuse christy. Jesus!

What was it about the 'pandemnic' that made him have a pop at the CMO and to brief totally differently to his Taoiseach on a 'circuit breaker'.
I await with bated breath for the connection to the pandemic.

christy c · 12-10-2020 2:51pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Stating that the pandemic is responsible for the chaos that a Tanaiste is actually responsible for is an excuse christy. Jesus!

What was it about the 'pandemnic' that made him have a pop at the CMO and to brief totally differently to his Taoiseach on a 'circuit breaker'.
I await with bated breath for the connection to the pandemic.

You'll be waiting, because I clarified what I meant and if you are still having difficulty please copy and paste my previous post the required number of times until it sinks in.

FrancieBrady · 12-10-2020 3:01pm

christy c wrote: »

You'll be waiting, because I clarified what I meant and if you are still having difficulty please copy and paste my previous post the required number of times until it sinks in.

So tell us christy how the pandemic made Leo do it? :rolleyes:

christy c · 12-10-2020 3:04pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So tell us christy how the pandemic made Leo do it? :rolleyes:

Haha

blanch152 · 12-10-2020 4:17pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Stating that the pandemic is responsible for the chaos that a Tanaiste is actually responsible for is an excuse christy. Jesus!

What was it about the 'pandemnic' that made him have a pop at the CMO and to brief totally differently to his Taoiseach on a 'circuit breaker'.
I await with bated breath for the connection to the pandemic.

How come the Tanaiste in Ireland is responsible for the chaos of having Covid-19 cases one-third the rate of Northern Ireland, where there is no chaos and the Deputy Leader is completely blameless for the runaway rates of Covid-19?

Your twisting takes some unravelling initially, but when you actually pick at it, it falls to pieces.

FrancieBrady · 12-10-2020 4:27pm

blanch152 wrote: »

How come the Tanaiste in Ireland is responsible for the chaos of having Covid-19 cases one-third the rate of Northern Ireland, where there is no chaos and the Deputy Leader is completely blameless for the runaway rates of Covid-19?

Your twisting takes some unravelling initially, but when you actually pick at it, it falls to pieces.

Wot?

You are so desperate to deflect to the Shinners you aren't making sense anymore.

dundalkfc10 · 12-10-2020 4:33pm

blanch152 wrote: »

How come the Tanaiste in Ireland is responsible for the chaos of having Covid-19 cases one-third the rate of Northern Ireland, where there is no chaos and the Deputy Leader is completely blameless for the runaway rates of Covid-19?

Your twisting takes some unravelling initially, but when you actually pick at it, it falls to pieces.

Ah the old, we have lost control of the Virus down here and are going against NHEPT advice, guess what we can do to make it look good, point up North and say look they are worse

blanch152 · 12-10-2020 4:39pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Ah the old, we have lost control of the Virus down here and are going against NHEPT advice, guess what we can do to make it look good, point up North and say look they are worse

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1012/1170892-coronavirus-ireland/

Three highest rates in Ireland are in Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan. No surprise to see the border counties in trouble with the chaotic mess overseen by Sinn Fein going on in Northern Ireland where they have the highest rates in Europe.

Not looking up North to say they are worse, looking up North to point out that the incompetents up there are making things much more difficult down here.

FrancieBrady · 12-10-2020 4:45pm

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1012/1170892-coronavirus-ireland/

Three highest rates in Ireland are in Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan. No surprise to see the border counties in trouble with the chaotic mess overseen by Sinn Fein going on in Northern Ireland where they have the highest rates in Europe.

Not looking up North to say they are worse, looking up North to point out that the incompetents up there are making things much more difficult down here.

Which has nothing to do with Leo going off the range on solo runs,

Brendan Bendar · 12-10-2020 4:52pm

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1012/1170892-coronavirus-ireland/

Three highest rates in Ireland are in Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan. No surprise to see the border counties in trouble with the chaotic mess overseen by Sinn Fein going on in Northern Ireland where they have the highest rates in Europe.

Not looking up North to say they are worse, looking up North to point out that the incompetents up there are making things much more difficult down here.

No surprise there Blanch, these lads are bending over backwards to try to keep the complete mess the Shinners are making of things where they are in power out of this thread.

What they want is to have carte Blanche to attack those in power down here whilst trying to hide the unholy mess the same party are making of their jurisdiction.

How can any sensible person have confidence in that bunch of incompetents.

FrancieBrady · 12-10-2020 4:57pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No surprise there Blanch, these lads are bending over backwards to try to keep the complete mess the Shinners are making of things where they are in power out of this thread.

What they want is to have carte Blanche to attack those in power down here whilst trying to hide the unholy mess the same party are making of their jurisdiction.

How can any sensible person have confidence in that bunch of incompetents.

Brendi...go research what the 'Executive' is and how it functions.

I have been telling you NI is a failure for yonks. This proves it and will factor hugely come the border poll.
Because it is a failure we cannot guarantee our island's health security now never mind the stability of it.

James Brown · 12-10-2020 4:58pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Another made-up fantasy in your head about Leo.

(1) Leo didn't say that "Debenhams have no money for workers"

(2) There is no way he could know the inside financial situation in Debenhams to the detail required to say that.

You keep saying complete tripe like this 'another made up..' with no evidence and you get told only to try it on again and again...

(1) "Mr Vardkar, who is both Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade, and Employment, told RTÉ on Wednesday that Debenhams is genuinely insolvent and lacks the funds to pay staff their redundancy."
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40046087.html

"The money isn't there on this occasion. And that's the difficulty."

He lied.

(2) Likely correct. Either way he had no business spouting spin dismissing the workers with his lies. Especially considering they implemented no recommendations that came in the wake of Clery's

Psst...this is where you look for something in my comment to allow you spin off in a different direction.....

dundalkfc10 · 12-10-2020 5:02pm

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1012/1170892-coronavirus-ireland/

Three highest rates in Ireland are in Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan. No surprise to see the border counties in trouble with the chaotic mess overseen by Sinn Fein going on in Northern Ireland where they have the highest rates in Europe.

Not looking up North to say they are worse, looking up North to point out that the incompetents up there are making things much more difficult down here.

Can the North be blamed for

- The lack of ICU beds we have 6 months after we were promised loads more
- GAA teams and parishes on the piss for the weekend after county title wins and loses
- Freshers week in Galway
- The protests in Dublin every Saturday
- House Parties up and down the country
- People coming in through the airport, and not been followed up on.

What do you want, the border closed?

James Brown · 12-10-2020 5:02pm

Truthvader wrote: »

Been round the houses with Bowie on this one and had to give up. He either simply does not understand the liquidation process or is wilfully repeating something he knows to be untrue

Yes, you got called out and ran away.

Leo lied.

You think FF had no hand in the last crash so...

James Brown · 12-10-2020 5:05pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Can the North be blamed for

- The lack of ICU beds we have 6 months after we were promised loads more
- GAA teams and parishes on the piss for the weekend after county title wins and loses
- Freshers week in Galway
- The protests in Dublin every Saturday
- House Parties up and down the country
- People coming in through the airport, and not been followed up on.

What do you want, the border closed?

They are struggling now as sadly our rates are up too. Still need to do 'look over there' using misery and insults to get cheap shots on the internet. Not a normal party.
Fun to see them compare Donegal to the occupied territory like they're one in the same because it suits

Floppybits · 12-10-2020 5:11pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Can the North be blamed for

- The lack of ICU beds we have 6 months after we were promised loads more
- GAA teams and parishes on the piss for the weekend after county title wins and loses
- Freshers week in Galway
- The protests in Dublin every Saturday
- House Parties up and down the country
- People coming in through the airport, and not been followed up on.

What do you want, the border closed?

Build a wall maybe?

McMurphy · 12-10-2020 5:25pm

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1012/1170892-coronavirus-ireland/

Three highest rates in Ireland are in Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan. No surprise to see the border counties in trouble with the chaotic mess overseen by Sinn Fein going on in Northern Ireland where they have the highest rates in Europe.

Not looking up North to say they are worse, looking up North to point out that the incompetents up there are making things much more difficult down here.

Ah so it's back to blaming a govt for covid mess.

Down here where FFG are in charge - nope blanch says you cannot blame a govt.

He changed his mind as to whether a govt could be blamed in the north, even suggested they were to blame for the Tullamore episode of covid.

He quickly changed his mind again when it was NPHET advice being ignored.

Now the North has a rise in cases you can hold a govt responsible again.

It's the internet equivalent of the hokey pokey.

RandomViewer · 12-10-2020 5:30pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Criminally bad tendering of processes? What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that State tenders were awarded under suspicious circumstances? You'll have to explain how that could happen under the triple lock of Government, the Civil Service, and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General, and for what tenders it happened.

Look up Udarus n.a. Gaeltachta and see who gets their contracts, Its generational at this stage

RandomViewer · 12-10-2020 5:33pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Would you be in favour of tax harmonisation across the EU?

I'd be thinking that after Brexit that tax harmonisation will be on the EU agenda, if Germany and France want it it will be happening

blanch152 · 12-10-2020 6:14pm

Bowie wrote: »

They are struggling now as sadly our rates are up too. Still need to do 'look over there' using misery and insults to get cheap shots on the internet. Not a normal party.
Fun to see them compare Donegal to the occupied territory like they're one in the same because it suits

Our rates are up because of the overflow from the North. Furthermore, they are still far behind the North.

Michelle O'Neill is putting the whole island in trouble.

Geographically we live on one island. Politically, there are two countries on this island. Which bit of that do you not understand?

blanch152 · 12-10-2020 6:16pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Can the North be blamed for

- The lack of ICU beds we have 6 months after we were promised loads more
- GAA teams and parishes on the piss for the weekend after county title wins and loses
- Freshers week in Galway
- The protests in Dublin every Saturday
- House Parties up and down the country
- People coming in through the airport, and not been followed up on.

What do you want, the border closed?

Still, with all of that, the Covid-19 rates in Northern Ireland are three times ours?

What gives, what is different?

Every Shinner and republican on here tells me we are one nation, exactly the same, yet the Covid-19 rates up there are three times higher. Are we lucky to have Leo and co in charge compared to having Michelle?

dundalkfc10 · 12-10-2020 6:17pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Our rates are up because of the overflow from the North. Furthermore, they are still far behind the North.

Michelle O'Neill is putting the whole island in trouble.

Geographically we live on one island. Politically, there are two countries on this island. Which bit of that do you not understand?

If Michelle is putting the whole island in trouble then so are FF/FG/Greens by going against Public Health Advice

FrancieBrady · 12-10-2020 6:27pm

Wonder will Leo be on Claire Byrne tonight complaining that the recommendation of Minister Of Finance in the budget being leaked?

dundalkfc10 · 12-10-2020 6:29pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Wonder will Leo be on Claire Byrne tonight complaining that the recommendation of Minister Of Finance in the budget being leaked?

They havnt told him anything about it like last week, he can't go to the media again with false info

Nobotty · 12-10-2020 7:21pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

If Michelle is putting the whole island in trouble then so are FF/FG/Greens by going against Public Health Advice

She isn't
The DUP are
The North now has the funding for a complete lockdown and there's a case there if ever there was,the 6 county rate is at 327 and parts over 900
Yet Geoffrey Donaldson was on radio one after 5 playing down the whole thing
He said he was going to take no lectures from people who held a fake funeral
So that's whats going on in the executive too no doubt

Putting border counties to level 4 is only a gimmick unless there's fines for leaving or entering the county without a valid excuse

saabsaab · 12-10-2020 7:25pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Still, with all of that, the Covid-19 rates in Northern Ireland are three times ours?

What gives, what is different?

Every Shinner and republican on here tells me we are one nation, exactly the same, yet the Covid-19 rates up there are three times higher. Are we lucky to have Leo and co in charge compared to having Michelle?

Surely M Martin!

FrancieBrady · 12-10-2020 7:29pm

saabsaab wrote: »

Surely M Martin!

The mask slipped.

Priceless.

Eric Cartman · 12-10-2020 7:33pm

https://www.thejournal.ie/hazel-chu-social-democrats-5230965-Oct2020/ in a shocking statement that just about everyone saw coming, shortly after saoirse mchugh got out early to avoid the tar, heres Hazel Chu lining up her next party after the greens falter at the next election.

Social democrats are really looking to become a heavy hitting opposition party next time around.

Bishop of hope · 12-10-2020 7:33pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

They havnt told him anything about it like last week, he can't go to the media again with false info

Apart from Leo have you anything to add?

FrancieBrady · 12-10-2020 7:35pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/hazel-chu-social-democrats-5230965-Oct2020/ in a shocking statement that just about everyone saw coming, shortly after saoirse mchugh got out early to avoid the tar, heres Hazel Chu lining up her next party after the greens falter at the next election.

Social democrats are really looking to become a heavy hitting opposition party next time around.

Hazel Chu is heavy hitter? Really?

FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

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