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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

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    #2852
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,063 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bishop of hope wrote: »
    Well it's the same explanation, it's the overwhelming numbers that are the problem now.
    If you look around the world now, contact tracing is still one of the biggest issues.
    Hopefully it's sorted now and we are back on speed.

    Our app was consistently lauded around the world and was used, along with the German one as a model in how to construct one. The HSE didn't have enough staff, simple as that, even though we have been told the 2nd wave would have much larger numbers...incompetency again.


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    #2853
    [Deleted User]
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Our app was consistently lauded around the world and was used, along with the German one as a model in how to construct one. The HSE didn't have enough staff, simple as that, even though we have been told the 2nd wave would have much larger numbers...incompetency again.

    Panic over. HSE have sorted the problem and are back on track. Sorry to disappoint you. https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/1021/1172969-leaders-questions/


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    #2854
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Nobotty wrote: »
    To be fair The church didn't murder or rape or do all those awfull things
    Heretics within the church and their State comforters/collaborators did directly and indirectly IMO

    The church done it on a systemic fashion aided by our betters. If they didn't why was compensation paid by institutions and government?


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    #2855
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,063 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Panic over. HSE have sorted the problem and are back on track. Sorry to disappoint you. https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/1021/1172969-leaders-questions/

    Now the next part, do you believe them.


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    #2856
    Bishop of hope
    Registered Users Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Nobotty wrote: »
    The enormity of the incompetence
    Just brushed aside
    Move along
    Its just a blip etc

    That's not true, it's been dealt with.
    There wasn't enough staff and now there is, what are you looking for?


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    #2857
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Now the next part, do you believe them.

    Blessed is he who doesn’t see, yet believes.


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    #2858
    Nobotty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Nobotty


    smurgen wrote: »
    The church done it on a systemic fashion aided by our betters. If they didn't why was compensation paid by institutions and government?

    Because heretics controlled the institution s


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    #2859
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,063 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Blessed is he who doesn’t see, yet believes.

    It's FF and FG, there isn't enough holy water.


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    #2860
    Nobotty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Nobotty


    Bishop of hope wrote: »
    That's not true, it's been dealt with.
    There wasn't enough staff and now there is, what are you looking for?

    4 or 5 days of contacts circulating who should have been contacted in a timely fashion,certainly has NOT been dealt with
    That ship sailed on those days and that damage cannot be undone


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    #2861
    Bishop of hope
    Registered Users Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Nobotty wrote: »
    4 or 5 days of contacts circulating who should have been contacted in a timely fashion,certainly has NOT been dealt with
    That ship sailed on those days and that damage cannot be undone

    The game is lost Nobbot regards that, a lot of things are too slow.
    Take the restrictions from midnight tonight too if you want, towns and shops overwhelmed for the last couple of days, I wonder how many are infected because of that?
    Nmphets shouts for the last two weeks, people knew this was coming in a while, leaks and announcements, all **** to the fan.
    The spread is because people are stupid and act on impulses instead of keeping their heads and staying safe


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    #2862
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Fine Gael TD on The Tonight Show after being proven to not have a clue all night ends with what about the Boby Storey funeral at the very end


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    #2863
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Just wondering lads, when we can expect a mural to be put up in West Belfast commemorating the French school teacher that was beheaded?

    Or maybe SFs international solidaritee doesnt extend to Europeans :o


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    #2864
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Hqrry113 wrote: »
    Alan Black a protestant, the only survivor of Kingsmill, believes that IRA members involved in the massacre were double agents working for the British state.

    He believes there was a "cover up" and that British security forces knew the massacre was going to happen but allowed it to. Karen Armstrong, sister of victim John McConville, said: "A lot of people were being protected back then and they still are". It has been suggested that the gunman with the English accent could have been British Intelligence officer Robert Nairac.

    John Weir, a former RUC officer and member of the "Glenanne gang", claims he discovered that British Intelligence, through Nairac, was "playing republican and loyalist paramilitaries off against each other".

    Hmmm, lots of nice stories here but nothing or no evidence to back it up.


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    #2865
    markodaly
    Registered Users Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Ideally of course they shouldn't.

    But you started this by demanding that action should be taken by SF.

    My argument is you can't take action on foot of allegations.

    Of course you can, you can investigate the allegation and take action based on te facts.
    We all know SF act like the Mafia and omerta is a core value within the party. That is why so many don't trust them.


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    #2866
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    markodaly wrote: »
    Of course you can, you can investigate the allegation and take action based on te facts.
    We all know SF act like the Mafia and omerta is a core value within the party. That is why so many don't trust them.

    We all know FG and FF let the Church get away with abusing people for decades without doing a thing about it. Even now they are trying to sweep it under the carpet

    People in glass houses should not throw stones

    P. S Going on the election result, SF and FF have the same levels of support with FG lagging behind so as many trust them as the other leading party and more than all rest


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    #2867
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,063 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    markodaly wrote: »
    Of course you can, you can investigate the allegation and take action based on te facts.
    We all know SF act like the Mafia and omerta is a core value within the party. That is why so many don't trust them.

    How do you know it hasn't been? You are hanging based on an allegation again Mark.


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    #2868
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,063 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    We all know FG and FF let the Church get away with abusing people for decades without doing a thing about it. Even now they are trying to sweep it under the carpet

    People in glass houses should not throw stones

    It is pretty remarkable and lacking in self awareness that Mark would make that claim on the day the government was trying to put 'omerta' into legislation in the Dáil.


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    #2869
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,248 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Bishop of hope wrote: »
    I see there are a couple amendments to the bill now and it's going to be kept on public file for access.

    Re the contact tracing issue, it's back on schedule now I see too.
    There's contact tracing issues all over the place it seems, such large numbers are hard to keep track of.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-54631285

    Charlie Flannigan, spit, may well have been the mind changer, go figure.

    Every time that Sinn Fein complain about something to do with coronavirus in this State (we had David Cullinane on radio this morning ranting), it turns out that the North, where they have responsibility, is in an even worse situation. Is Mary-Lou going to call for Michelle's head to roll for taking her eye off the ball?


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    #2870
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,248 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Nobotty wrote: »
    4 or 5 days of contacts circulating who should have been contacted in a timely fashion,certainly has NOT been dealt with
    That ship sailed on those days and that damage cannot be undone

    True, but every country is facing that problem, and once again, we have performed better than our neighbours in that regard.

    Remember, we have a Common Travel Area with two basket cases, the North run by Sinn Fein, and England, the responsibility of Boris Johnson. Considering those two calamaties on our doorstep, we have done remarkably well in controlling the virus.

    Heard a Cavan GP on the radio this morning, blaming their huge figures on border communities celebrating GAA victories and commemorating in funerals. The latter problem is on Sinn Fein for the Storey debacle, but the rest of it is down to people not following the rules. A disregard for the law is something that Sinn Fein have cultivated in border communities, that chicken is coming home to roost and not in a good way.


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    #2871
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,063 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Every time that Sinn Fein complain about something to do with coronavirus in this State (we had David Cullinane on radio this morning ranting), it turns out that the North, where they have responsibility, is in an even worse situation. Is Mary-Lou going to call for Michelle's head to roll for taking her eye off the ball?

    Is Michael calling for Colum Eastwood to resign? We know FG have no responsibility, as up there is overseas. :)

    NI is run by a 5 party executive. If you know what you are talking about here, outline exactly how SF specifically (or if you wish to use your allies in opposing a UI - The DUP) could have avoided the delays at Altnagelvin?

    Give us a detailed 'how to' please.


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    #2872
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,063 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    True, but every country is facing that problem, and once again, we have performed better than our neighbours in that regard.

    Remember, we have a Common Travel Area with two basket cases, the North run by Sinn Fein, and England, the responsibility of Boris Johnson. Considering those two calamaties on our doorstep, we have done remarkably well in controlling the virus.

    Heard a Cavan GP on the radio this morning, blaming their huge figures on border communities celebrating GAA victories and commemorating in funerals. The latter problem is on Sinn Fein for the Storey debacle, but the rest of it is down to people not following the rules. A disregard for the law is something that Sinn Fein have cultivated in border communities, that chicken is coming home to roost and not in a good way.

    Surely people in 'Cavan' would have taken their lead from funerals conducted in the state in which they live?


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    #2873
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Every time that Sinn Fein complain about something to do with coronavirus in this State (we had David Cullinane on radio this morning ranting), it turns out that the North, where they have responsibility, is in an even worse situation. Is Mary-Lou going to call for Michelle's head to roll for taking her eye off the ball?

    Hey look our Govt have ****ed up again, point up North and say what about up there

    Il give you one thing, you stick to the party line no matter what.

    Do you have anything to say about the tracing fiasco or is it just going to be well its worse somewhere else?

    Your mate LV has gone very quiet recently, would their be a reason for that?


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    #2874
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Surely people in 'Cavan' would have taken their lead from funerals conducted in the state in which they live?

    Or maybe they all went to play Golf and had a session in the club house after it


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    #2875
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    blanch152 wrote: »
    True, but every country is facing that problem, and once again, we have performed better than our neighbours in that regard.

    Remember, we have a Common Travel Area with two basket cases, the North run by Sinn Fein, and England, the responsibility of Boris Johnson. Considering those two calamaties on our doorstep, we have done remarkably well in controlling the virus.

    Heard a Cavan GP on the radio this morning, blaming their huge figures on border communities celebrating GAA victories and commemorating in funerals. The latter problem is on Sinn Fein for the Storey debacle, but the rest of it is down to people not following the rules. A disregard for the law is something that Sinn Fein have cultivated in border communities, that chicken is coming home to roost and not in a good way.

    Surely the Cavan GP would be talking about a funeral in his own country and not 'abroad'? You sure he never said the States funeral for the Gardaí or maybe the session over in Clifden for all the lads and lassies


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    #2876
    a very cool kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭a very cool kid


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/mcdonald-left-health-officials-briefing-after-less-than-an-hour-39649449.html

    I don't think the above was addressed correctly on the thread. I hope she had a good excuse - this smacks of irresponsibility and fecklessness. How can she be doing a good job holding government to account when she can't be bothered getting all the detail?


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    #2877
    a very cool kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭a very cool kid


    Also add to this Mark "birdbrain" Ward's call for gyms to reopen - you know because breathing hard indoors won't spread the virus....


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    #2878
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,063 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    a very cool kid wrote: »
    you know because breathing hard indoors won't spread the virus....

    Like in GAA dressing rooms?


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    #2879
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Like in GAA dressing rooms?

    Or a school classroom with 30 kids and 2 adults


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    #2880
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Or a school classroom with 30 kids and 2 adults

    Is it the SF position that schools, universities and crèches should close?


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    #2881
    grayzer75
    Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭grayzer75


    blanch152 wrote: »
    True, but every country is facing that problem, and once again, we have performed better than our neighbours in that regard.

    Remember, we have a Common Travel Area with two basket cases, the North run by Sinn Fein, and England, the responsibility of Boris Johnson. Considering those two calamaties on our doorstep, we have done remarkably well in controlling the virus.

    Heard a Cavan GP on the radio this morning, blaming their huge figures on border communities celebrating GAA victories and commemorating in funerals. The latter problem is on Sinn Fein for the Storey debacle, but the rest of it is down to people not following the rules. A disregard for the law is something that Sinn Fein have cultivated in border communities, that chicken is coming home to roost and not in a good way.

    So you're now blaming a funeral in Belfast which took place over 3 months ago for the sharp rise in cases in Cavan this week - did you ever consider a career in standup hahaha :D


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