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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    emaherx wrote: »
    Ok, so what are we calling this new company? :D

    Ye can use the thread title.. :p





    New Age Tinkers.

    (Runs away extremely fast).


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭rounders


    First company meeting,
    1. Come up with a product
    2. Don't post product on public forum for others to rob :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Timmaay wrote: »
    I went off and got myself a degree in mechanical engineering, then 3/4s of the way through a PhD, before bailing out and writing that up as a research engineering masters, before coming back home to be a horribly overqualified farmer ha. Spent my whole life tinkering around with some sort of electronics and engines and stuff, but I'll agree that it's all become a hell of alot simpler in terms of what kits you can buy off the shelf and get going with arduino etc.

    I'm surprised items like bulk tank temperature, water pressure, electric fence voltage monitors etc haven't become alot more common on farms here yet, basically monitoring equipment that can and will save you money if they spot a fault before you do. I've had it in the back of my mind to go develop something that I could market to farmers, take the bulk tank temperature sensor, all you need to do is put an external temperature probe in beside the existing temperature probe, and have a microcontroller with a web upload of the temperature, a simple enough algorithm that knows the rough expected cooling profile of the tank and it will send you a text if something is astray. For more extensive farm wide use gsm/sigfox or yourown lora network would be necessary. If anyone want to help me develop something like the above drop me a pm ha 😅

    Definitely, I'd like to monitor water and electric fences especially on the out farms where both water supplies and power sources are less reliable. On the home farm this would be easy enough as it's fairly well covered by Wi-Fi, has electricity and mains water but it's actually my smallest block of land and the furthest from my house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    rounders wrote: »
    We're still on the dock leaf technology here!

    I work off farm as a consultant with a cloud software vender but I'm focused more on the front end configuring with the customer rather than the back end tech.

    One idea I've been play with is an online platform that is all based around the map for the farm. On it would be able to see all your animals using gps/geofensing on animals with alerts if they leave the paddock. Monitor the water usage through flow sensors in the water pipes to monitor flow and potential leaks, also have IOT values to turn off water so if you input that the animals will leave the paddock today at 4pm, at 2pm the vale would switch off to ensure the trough empties. When the GPS on the animals detect the animals enter a new paddock it would turn on the water.

    Most useful part of all I think though would be something simular to what someone posted earlier where it lifted wire using a a little motor. On the out farm we have cattle, we could setup a timers to lift the wire at a particular time to give them more grass and use the Geofencing to confirm they have all moved to the next paddock before lowering it again. Pair all this up then with a little drone. You mark on the map which field you want the drone to go to and it would set off on a preconfigured route taking the stress out of flying a drone allowing you to focus on the camara output

    All of this sounds great but I suppose the amount of value/time it would safe would be minimal

    Tracking every animal could be useful, it could be done on Sigfox network without GPS but would be expensive with a per device subscription depending on number of animals. Could be done using a private LoRa network using GPS modules but would be harder on batteries and a higher unit cost.


    Edit: on looking again GPS would be needed either way as tracking on sigfox network without GPS is only accurate to 800 meters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭rounders


    emaherx wrote: »
    Tracking every animal could be useful, it could be done on Sigfox network without GPS but would be expensive with a per device subscription depending on number of animals. Could be done using a private LoRa network using GPS modules but would be harder on batteries and a higher unit cost.


    Edit: on looking again GPS would be needed either way as tracking on sigfox network without GPS is only accurate to 800 meters.

    Came across the same 800 metre limitation when reading up on it last night. From what I read, the tech to measure accurately enough isn't currently out there except for possibly in the US military


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    rounders wrote: »
    Came across the same 800 metre limitation when reading up on it last night. From what I read, the tech to measure accurately enough isn't currently out there except for possibly in the US military

    Accurately enough for what though? They are cows not guided missiles. Reason it's not going to be accurate without GPS is cell size for LoRa is too big, you could in theory build a private network with decent accuracy using multiple gateways. But GPS can be accurate to cm even basic GPS is accurate to within a meter or 2 which would be sufficient for most tasks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    rounders wrote: »
    First company meeting,
    1. Come up with a product
    2. Don't post product on public forum for others to rob :D

    Ha I know where your coming from, however that idea (amoung about 100 more ideas) has milled around my head for far too long without any real progress, to the point that by now I'm happy to just throw the idea out there with the chance that someone might actually take up my offer ha, and if someone was to rob it and actually implement it fair play to them by now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭GinSoaked


    rounders wrote: »
    ...

    Most useful part of all I think though would be something simular to what someone posted earlier where it lifted wire using a a little motor. On the out farm we have cattle, we could setup a timers to lift the wire at a particular time to give them more grass and use the Geofencing to confirm they have all moved to the next paddock before lowering it again. Pair all this up then with a little drone. You mark on the map which field you want the drone to go to and it would set off on a preconfigured route taking the stress out of flying a drone allowing you to focus on the camara output

    ...l

    Why use a motor to lift a fence line when you could attach one end to a magnet and then demagnetization it to drop the end of a fence joined up with a spring gate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Any of yous experience with sigfox out of interest? I was onto the lads afew weeks ago who supply the network in Ireland (vt-iot.com), but didn't get a reply back from their technical team, I'd love to get my hands on an actual device and see how reliable the signal actually is (poor enough mobile signal on the farm here, but I think sigfox can operate on a very limited signal). Personally I think it will have more promise than Lora, especially in terms of if you want to get in the door with a product for farmers, something they can plug and play straight out of the box is better than trying to convince them they 1st need a box for a lora network across the farm as well as the actual sensors/transmitters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Not yet, but was looking recently.
    With Arduino and ESP based dev harware available for €35 its worth a look, might get one of each to play with.
    https://www.vt-iot-solutions.com/product/sipy-iot-sigfox-wifi-ble-board/

    Pricing subscriptions from Sigfox seam resonable enough if using a few devices but could get expensive enough quickly. I could see Sigfox being more useful for a small number of devices but a private Lora network for large numbers.
    https://buy.sigfox.com/buy/offers/IE


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭rounders


    GinSoaked wrote: »
    Why use a motor to lift a fence line when you could attach one end to a magnet and then demagnetization it to drop the end of a fence joined up with a spring gate?

    But then is the wire not just on the ground with no way of automatically picking it back up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭G-Man


    rounders wrote: »
    You can ring it or text. If you text it tells you the status but I'd be trying to get the father using it so just go with the basics of ringing the box which changes the box to either on or off depending on it's current position when you ring it

    Yeah was doing some reading on Sigfox networks last night. Is that primarily only good for sending small data points or could it support triggering a action like the GSM plug?

    My background is Information Systems so I understand the high level systems but get lost completely once we start talking about circuits

    Some of these devices can answer after a fixed number of rings or how long to hang up to indicate if they are on or off.. Check web or manual if.it has this feature.

    E.g it answers at 1 rings if device is on, else it wont answer till 4 rings....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭funnyname


    endainoz wrote: »
    I have a similar system myself in the shed. (But not anywhere near as sophisticated as yours!)

    The home house is about 300 metres from the slatted house so last year I ran a network cable from the router in the house into the shed. Connected that to an older router in the slatted shed to get WiFi. I have two foscam cameras working off it for calving season. They are fantastic quality and a fraction of the cost than giving some lad over a grand to install it for you.

    I also connected a sonoff smart switch to the lights in the shed. Put the smart switch into a weather proof box for safety. I also have the mains fencer in the slatted house for connected that to a TP link smart plug. I can work all of these from my phone which is really convenient. Especially the fence one, no more having to ring the mother to go out to the shed to turn off the fence.

    I thought the usability of Ethernet cable maxes out at 100m, did you do a straight run or was it broken up with some sort of repeater.

    Looking to help a friend as I've run approx 90m from my house to an outside office. Had thought I would have to get him to use nano stations between his house and sheds.

    Would be great if can be done by a long run of Ethernet cable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Definitely just use 2 nano stations, they'll probably cost less than the length of cable, without the hassle of installing and buring it etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭endainoz


    funnyname wrote: »
    I thought the usability of Ethernet cable maxes out at 100m, did you do a straight run or was it broken up with some sort of repeater.

    Looking to help a friend as I've run approx 90m from my house to an outside office. Had thought I would have to get him to use nano stations between his house and sheds.

    Would be great if can be done by a long run of Ethernet cable.

    Apologies, the cable length is 100metres, and the shed is about 60 metres from the home house, no repeater, was using power line converters but they were unreliable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭onrail


    Anyone know where I could pick up a 'for dummies' guide to all this stuff? Love all things technology, but tend to have a blind spot when it comes to the details of networks, circuits, automation etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    onrail wrote: »
    Anyone know where I could pick up a 'for dummies' guide to all this stuff? Love all things technology, but tend to have a blind spot when it comes to the details of networks, circuits, automation etc.

    Probably not a "For Dummies Guide" for all this stuff as it's a broad enough subject. But there are loads of individual guides and different sources of reference materials.

    Is there a particular technology you want to look at?

    Good sources of information:
    Udemy.com, pay site for online courses (not just tech)

    Some sites with good project examples
    https://www.instructables.com/
    https://Hackster.io/



    Maybe pick a microcontroller and Google projects based on it. Popular ones are:

    Arduino
    NodeMcu
    Raspberry Pi (more of a mini PC than a micro controller)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    I think we have a problem here!! (thankfully nothing more than the Milker this morning never turned on the tank ha). Very handy to have the live temperature feed and only cost about 30e in total for the sonoff and an external temperature probe. What I'm working on at the minute with it is flash it to a custom firmware and set it up to log every 15mins, and for it to send me an alert if the tank temperature deviants too far outside a set range across the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Timmaay wrote: »
    I think we have a problem here!! (thankfully nothing more than the Milker this morning never turned on the tank ha). Very handy to have the live temperature feed and only cost about 30e in total for the sonoff and an external temperature probe. What I'm working on at the minute with it is flash it to a custom firmware and set it up to log every 15mins, and for it to send me an alert if the tank temperature deviants too far outside a set range across the day.

    Are you done yet :D
    Should be straight forward enough :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Been Looking more at the LoRa Devices. I've purchased a few bits and I'm waiting for them to arrive.
    In the mean time I've been tinkering with some devices that I already have using the MySensors.org libraries.

    The MySensors Library supports a few different radio transceivers like the nrf24l01 (a 2.4GHz transceiver) and RFM95 (a LoRa device). I already had some nrf24l01 transceivers and as the sketches and wiring are very similar I started to convert my ESPHome based oil tank monitor to MySensors.


    50002552856_f4ff14f24e_z.jpgIMG_20200613_082800 by Emaherx, on Flickr

    It turns out the the NodeMCU ESP32 is not a great choice for battery powered sensors as it dose not support the sleep function in MySensors, however it works fine as a USB powered sensor and the USB port is also useful for as a serial monitor for debugging. It will be straight forward to port to an Arduino Pro Mini if battery powered is required for remote sensors.

    Even without the LoRa transceivers I'm fairly impressed with the range of the nrf24l01 and has proven to be more reliable than the WiFi signal I'd previously been using with the ESPHome based node.

    50002813442_d61ab8d2a4_z.jpgMySensors Distance SerialMon by Emaherx, on Flickr

    #define MY_DEBUG
    #define MY_RADIO_RF24
    #define MY_NODE_ID 42
    #define MY_RF24_CHANNEL  91
    
    
    #include <SPI.h>
    #include <MySensors.h>  
    #include <NewPing.h>
    
    #define SENSOR_NAME "Distance Sensor"
    #define SENSOR_VERSION "1.1"
    
    #define CHILD_ID 1  // Each radio node can report data for up to 254 different child sensors. You are free to choose the child id yourself. 
                        // You should avoid using child-id 255 because it is used for things like sending in battery level and other (protocol internal) node specific information.
    #define TRIGGER_PIN  16  // Arduino pin tied to trigger pin on the ultrasonic sensor.
    #define ECHO_PIN     4  // Arduino pin tied to echo pin on the ultrasonic sensor.
    #define MAX_DISTANCE 300 // Maximum distance we want to ping for (in centimeters). Maximum sensor distance is rated at 400-500cm.
    // unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 5000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
    
    
    NewPing sonar(TRIGGER_PIN, ECHO_PIN, MAX_DISTANCE); // NewPing setup of pins and maximum distance.
    MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID, V_DISTANCE);
    int lastDist;
    bool metric = true;
    
    void setup()  
    { 
      metric = getControllerConfig().isMetric;
    }
    
    void presentation() {
      // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
      sendSketchInfo(SENSOR_NAME, SENSOR_VERSION);
    
      // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices) by their ID and S_TYPE
      present(CHILD_ID, S_DISTANCE);
    }
    
    void loop()      
    { 
      // use the build-in digital filter to discard out of range pings
      int echoTime = sonar.ping_median(10);
      int dist = metric?sonar.convert_cm(echoTime):sonar.convert_in(echoTime);
      Serial.print("Ping: ");
      Serial.print(dist);
      Serial.println(metric?" cm":" in");
    
      if (dist != lastDist) {
          send(msg.set(dist));
          lastDist = dist;
      }
    
      //sleep(SLEEP_TIME); commented out, won't compile for ESP32 used wait(5000); instead.
      wait(5000);
    }
    


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    50004014338_18441b45e9_z.jpgIMG_20200614_110020 by Emaherx, on Flickr

    Committed a design to veroboard using and Arduino Pro Mini running off a 3.7V LiPo battery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭satstheway


    Anyone fit there own underground gate openers.
    What make or type is best. Cost seams to vary alot and hard to know which makes are best.
    LEB FAAC DEA ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Ran some tests Today with some LoRa modules.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B076T28KWG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Receiveing Data at an out farm over 1.5KM away with no issues.

    Edit: had a walk around different out farms and I can get signal everywhere if I build 2 gateways, one on the home farm and one at my own house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    What lora gateways you using?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Timmaay wrote: »
    What lora gateways you using?

    Using just the devices in the link above at the moment, for gateway and node. I only sent simple "hello" packets so far.

    I've loaded one up now with a MySensors Gateway sketch and the other as a sensor node, so I need to test the range again with encryption and some proper data and see how reliable it is. The claimed range is 2.8KM on the devices but there are a lot of trees about and no LOS so I'm impressed so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭Gman1987


    Some very interesting posts here, fair play to the guys here putting these devices together, you certainly need to be good with tech. A couple of items I came across that are off the shelf that I wouldnt mind owning, did anyone build something similar?

    1. https://farmgalore.ie/product/batt-latch-sms/ - Batt - Latch opens paddocks to allow cows leave the paddock
    2. https://www.luda.farm/product/luda-fence/ - Fence alarm, would be very handy especially for out farms. I have land that one or two deer come into every now and again, they sometimes can get the electric fence tangled up with thorny wire therefore knocking out the fence, this decide would keep that monitored and notify if their was any change in fence power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    We briefly discussed both of those items (or similar recently).


    The fence monitor, I'm currently looking into that and I think Timmaay mentioned it aswell, but I'm trying to setup a communications network for the farm to avoid SMS/GSM communications.

    The gate opener would be farily simple to implement with a solonide, was also suggested earlier Rounders to use a small motorized winch that could lift a fence over the height of the cattle and lower back down after them so gates could be opened and closed using an automation.

    Edit: Just looked at the prices on those links, the prices are fairly steep :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭enricoh


    satstheway wrote: »
    Anyone fit there own underground gate openers.
    What make or type is best. Cost seams to vary alot and hard to know which makes are best.
    LEB FAAC DEA ....

    I fitted the overground Rams , dea I went for. You can buy on eBay a lot cheaper than Irish automation websites.
    My sister got them installed by an automation crowd. I just bought the same kit online and took a few photos of the wiring on hers and copied it.
    Was less hassle than I was expecting!
    Underground you have hassle with drains etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Great thread, I have alot of interest in this whole area. I frustrating haven't managed to bring enough ideas to fruition, but do have afew sonoffs around the place, one on the milk tank, electric fencer and one measuring mains voltage (which regularly drops here). Biggest complaint about the sonoffs is the rubbish ewelink software. I've been meaning to start flashing them with tasmota but just haven't got around to it yet. I've also looked at shelly, which seem to be sonoffs main competition, I need to order afew of them to play around with them, they seem to be getting better reviews than the sonoffs.

    I purchased a few Shelly switches to replace some Tuya switches that can't be (easily) re-flashed with custom firmware . These are great, even though they can be re-flashed with custom firmware there is no need. They can be connected to a cloud service but also have a number of local control options including MQTT and http commands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Not quite tinkering, but anyone else got a 3d printer? I've an ender 3 here, very nice simple to use printer, which cost about 200e delivered. My engineering days helped with the 3d modeling so I design up the odd few farm parts using fusion 360. My biggest hurdle so far has been getting abs plastic, which would be a decent bit stronger than the stock pla plastic to print correctly, abs doesn't adhere to the print bed nearly as good, I've tried half a dozen methods to get it to work but no real joy yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Not quite tinkering, but anyone else got a 3d printer? I've an ender 3 here, very nice simple to use printer, which cost about 200e delivered. My engineering days helped with the 3d modeling so I design up the odd few farm parts using fusion 360. My biggest hurdle so far has been getting abs plastic, which would be a decent bit stronger than the stock pla plastic to print correctly, abs doesn't adhere to the print bed nearly as good, I've tried half a dozen methods to get it to work but no real joy yet.

    No.
    But I'm definitely interested to see what farm parts you have made. It is something I wouldn't mind getting myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Lads, would one of ye with the 3d printers have a look at making the plastic extension for the rear fenders on 4200 and 4300 series Massey's?
    I reckon there's a market there for them, they're only to be got from main dealers at eye watering money and not available spurious anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Another idea is using Thermoelectric generators (TEG)'s with wood stoves or any heat source. Maybe even could be used on milk bulk tank compressors.

    No experience of them though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Another idea is using Thermoelectric generators (TEG)'s with wood stoves or any heat source. Maybe even could be used on milk bulk tank compressors.

    No experience of them though.

    5 to 8% efficiency, against the likes of 30/40% with traditional methods of converting a fuel source to electricity, they serve no real purpose except for where there is waste heat from some industrial process and no other practical way to harvest this heat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Timmaay wrote: »
    5 to 8% efficiency, against the likes of 30/40% with traditional methods of converting a fuel source to electricity, they serve no real purpose except for where there is waste heat from some industrial process and no other practical way to harvest this heat.

    Handy when the electricity goes out on a wintery night and you want to charge your phone.
    We're talking little generators the size of a phone battery available off Amazon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 790 ✭✭✭richie123


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Not quite tinkering, but anyone else got a 3d printer? I've an ender 3 here, very nice simple to use printer, which cost about 200e delivered. My engineering days helped with the 3d modeling so I design up the odd few farm parts using fusion 360. My biggest hurdle so far has been getting abs plastic, which would be a decent bit stronger than the stock pla plastic to print correctly, abs doesn't adhere to the print bed nearly as good, I've tried half a dozen methods to get it to work but no real joy yet.

    I often wondered could cattle tags be produced with a 3d printer..??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    https://www.tindie.com/browse/lora/

    Alot of very interesting devices here largely off the shelf and ready to go! I'm definitely going to be spending afew quid on this website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Timmaay wrote: »

    They really are the real life Cyberdyne Systems


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    I read they were 10k or thereabouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I've been tinkering with some LoRa modules over the past few weeks.

    I've had mixed results with range. Sending simple packets with one way comunications between a transmitter and reciver is working between 1 to 1.5KM without Line of Sight.

    I setup a Lora Gateway using Mysensors.org and this ESP32 based lora Module and LoRa Nodes based on this and this Arduino based Lora Module. Range with this setup range is about 800M with no Line of Sight, I think the reason for the shorter range is because the comunication is bi-directional and times out if acknowlagements are not recived on time. I've played with timeout setting and spreading factors to extend the range, inittially the range was much lower using default setting.
    I've adapted my tank level sensors to use this as its range is much better than the 2.4Ghz radio that I was using.

    I've also experimented with the https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/ using the ESP32 as a gateway but have not done any range testing as the ESP32 is a bit unstable and often reboots after receiving a packet from the node. Was working well enough to see how it would be implemented though.


    A bit of research into the above devices suggests that they are shipped with very poorly tuned Antenna more suited for the 1-2 GHZ band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Mf310


    enricoh wrote: »
    I fitted the overground Rams , dea I went for. You can buy on eBay a lot cheaper than Irish automation websites.
    My sister got them installed by an automation crowd. I just bought the same kit online and took a few photos of the wiring on hers and copied it.
    Was less hassle than I was expecting!
    Underground you have hassle with drains etc

    Want to fit an electric gate here as cant leave gate closed because milk man comes. Any of ye do much with electric gates? Guessing I could rig it up to a timer that it would open gate at 5 each morning for milk lorry and close at 6 automatically? There is Wifi on farm so the network is there just to link it all together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Mf310 wrote: »
    Want to fit an electric gate here as cant leave gate closed because milk man comes. Any of ye do much with electric gates? Guessing I could rig it up to a timer that it would open gate at 5 each morning for milk lorry and close at 6 automatically? There is Wifi on farm so the network is there just to link it all together

    Should be straight forward enough. Most gate kits would have pins for connecting a push button, these can be easily connected to a simple smart switch like a sonoff, just choose one with inching. Some gate openers may have the capability built in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    Tryna help a mate out with something outside of my level of expertise.
    He wants to remotely keep an eye on his garage inside while he's not there but not bothered about recording footage.
    He's as tight as they come I should add.
    Electric supply is straight from the house breakers which he could potentially use to route supply from router.
    He has a set of Homeplugs / powerline adaptors... Non wifi just plug ins for ethernet cables....
    Ip camera?
    Using cat 5 from homeplug in garage straight to camera ?
    P2P without him buying /using a dvr, nvr or similar ...?
    Does such a miraculous device exist?
    Did I mention hes a pure 4 x 2?
    Any advice appreciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yes,

    There are any number of standalone IP cameras available, Amazon is full of cheap ones.

    The Home plugs may work, they are hit and miss sometimes, it depends on the wiring of the house, but if he already has a pair its easy to plug them in and try. I find sometimes if they are not on the same ring main that they can be a little unstable.

    Here is the first one I found looking on Amazon, I have no experience of it but its a cheap camera, with Ethernet as well as Wifi records to an SD card and supports P2P. https://www.amazon.co.uk/ieGeek-Security-Waterproof-Surveillance-Detection-black/dp/B073GQ8T2L/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=ip%2Bcamera&qid=1596007977&sr=8-6&th=1

    Prices go up from there with more features available such as PTZ


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    emaherx wrote: »
    Yes,

    There are any number of standalone IP cameras available, Amazon is full of cheap ones.

    The Home plugs may work, they are hit and miss sometimes, it depends on the wiring of the house, but if he already has a pair its easy to plug them in and try. I find sometimes if they are not on the same ring main that they can be a little unstable.

    Here is the first one I found looking on Amazon, I have no experience of it but its a cheap camera, with Ethernet as well as Wifi records to an SD card and supports P2P. https://www.amazon.co.uk/ieGeek-Security-Waterproof-Surveillance-Detection-black/dp/B073GQ8T2L/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=ip%2Bcamera&qid=1596007977&sr=8-6&th=1

    Prices go up from there with more features available such as PTZ

    Looks perfect cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    Id like to extend my wifi network to the back of the house as my router signal can be spotty because of the stone dividing walls.
    I have tried wifi network adaptors which do work, but give me like an 80% reduction in speed compared to being connected to the router regardless of where I plug it in. Also I would prefer one wifi network as opposed to having 2.
    I have an old cat5 cable running from my router to the back of the house which im sure is good.

    My existing router is a generic one, local line of sight provider, getting 40mbps on a good day. Im not sure if its security is set to default but I can probably get details if I had to.

    Im wondering if I can buy another router, connect it to the first via the cat5, configure and have a seamless network back and front?

    Might this do?

    https://www.freetv.ie/wifi-access-points/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Id like to extend my wifi network to the back of the house as my router signal can be spotty because of the stone dividing walls.
    I have tried wifi network adaptors which do work, but give me like an 80% reduction in speed compared to being connected to the router regardless of where I plug it in. Also I would prefer one wifi network as opposed to having 2.
    I have an old cat5 cable running from my router to the back of the house which im sure is good.

    My existing router is a generic one, local line of sight provider, getting 40mbps on a good day. Im not sure if its security is set to default but I can probably get details if I had to.

    Im wondering if I can buy another router, connect it to the first via the cat5, configure and have a seamless network back and front?

    Might this do?

    https://www.freetv.ie/wifi-access-points/

    That should do it, as the cheapest option.

    But a decent mesh system with Ethernet backhaul would work best for seamless network.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,618 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Ok whippersnappers who do all this tinkering.

    I’ve no broadband on the farm, for the moment.

    But I want to have WiFi switches for lights.

    Does anyone know if I use a regular router will I be able to have WiFi switches operated from my phone without being internet connected ?

    I could temporarily hotspot of my phone to do the setup but it would need to work with no internet afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    _Brian wrote: »
    Ok whippersnappers who do all this tinkering.

    I’ve no broadband on the farm, for the moment.

    But I want to have WiFi switches for lights.

    Does anyone know if I use a regular router will I be able to have WiFi switches operated from my phone without being internet connected ?

    I could temporarily hotspot of my phone to do the setup but it would need to work with no internet afterwards.

    Yes absolutely.
    I'd recommend Shelly switches for this. https://shelly.cloud/

    You wouldn't even need the router as the switch can act as its own access point (unless you need to extend the range using a router)


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