Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread II

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 25-06-2016 5:51pm

awec wrote: »

Is Paul Jackson PJs brother?

I remember him making a very brief appearance for Ulster during the World Cup last year.

The Lost Sheep · 26-06-2016 10:58am

Number 137 wrote: »

First team squad for 2016/2017 announced.

Besides signings and departures already made public, these are the ones we weren't aware of:

In:
Mark Best
John Donnan (Academy)
Lorcan Dow (Academy)
Angus Lloyd
Stephen Mulholland
Matthew Rea
David Shanahan (Academy)
Johnny Simpson
Jacob Stockdale (Academy)

Outs:
Willie Faloon
Paul Jackson
Ruaidhri Murphy
Bronson Ross
Paul Rowley
Frankie Taggart

Angus Lloyd is excellent signing. Been very good with Trinity in AIL over last few years.

awec wrote: »

Is Paul Jackson PJs brother?

Yep. Seen him playing club ball over last few years. Cert deserves a look at.

launish116 · 28-06-2016 2:30pm

Could really do with academy back row stepping up this season!

Still can't believe Ulster's failure to try & sign another back rower! all that backline talent
potentially wasted

28-06-2016 2:36pm

Surely, just surely, Nucifora will drag a back rower out of the Leinster setup, drive him up the road himself and give him a new home.

b.gud · 28-06-2016 2:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely, just surely, Nucifora will drag a back rower out of the Leinster setup, drive him up the road himself and give him a new home.

You'd hope so. I was kinda hoping that Max Deegan would look at all the internationals ahead of him in Leinster and decide he's better off moving across the border

irishbucsfan · 28-06-2016 3:04pm

launish116 wrote: »

Could really do with academy back row stepping up this season!

Still can't believe Ulster's failure to try & sign another back rower! all that backline talent
potentially wasted

Well Ulster will be playing Marcel Coetzee's wages so their ability to sign another back rower is likely limited.

Lorcan Dow is my bet if anyone is going to emerge.

awec · 28-06-2016 3:10pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Well Ulster will be playing Marcel Coetzee's wages so their ability to sign another back rower is likely limited.

Lorcan Dow is my bet if anyone is going to emerge.

Money is not a problem by all accounts, the only thing stopping Ulster signing more Coetzees is IRFU rules.

thomond2006 · 28-06-2016 3:12pm

awec wrote: »

Money is not a problem by all accounts, the only thing stopping Ulster signing more Coetzees is IRFU rules.

Are you proposing an Ulexit?

bilston · 28-06-2016 3:26pm

Sean Reidy has proved to be something of a bonus for us, although I don't think he is international class but he has improved our depth.

Lorcan Dow is the big hope next season. The other thing is we need AOC to stay fit as that allows Hendy to play back row.

We aren't getting Max Deegan...not a chance...however his emergence may make Jack Conan think twice about his future in a years time.

irishbucsfan · 28-06-2016 3:35pm

awec wrote: »

Money is not a problem by all accounts, the only thing stopping Ulster signing more Coetzees is IRFU rules.

Well the accounts you've heard are different to the ones I've heard

mfceiling · 28-06-2016 4:14pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Surely, just surely, Nucifora will drag a back rower out of the Leinster setup, drive him up the road himself and give him a new home.

If he wants I can do it. He can throw his gear in the back of my van and he can ride shotgun with me. I'll even stop at the Applegreen and treat him to a coffee.

irishbucsfan · 28-06-2016 5:32pm

Ulster's starting full back for next season arrives

https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby/status/747826207442505728

Hagz · 28-06-2016 5:44pm

Hopefully he decides to stay. It would be cool to see him playing alongside Payne and Olding etc. Fingers crossed.

jacothelad · 28-06-2016 8:38pm

Hagz wrote: »

Hopefully he decides to stay. It would be cool to see him playing alongside Payne and Olding etc. Fingers crossed.

Why would he not stay? Any reason? The weather? Ulster fries?

Hagz · 28-06-2016 11:37pm

jacothelad wrote: »

Why would he not stay? Any reason? The weather? Ulster fries?

I know Wasps were really keen to hold onto him. It's probably nothing, but say your prayers anyway to be safe.

launish116 · 29-06-2016 10:31am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Ulster's starting full back for next season arrives

https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby/status/7478262074

Can see him more and more on the wing, competition for the backs is going to be stupidly crazy next season! bar the 9-10 axis

connemara man · 29-06-2016 10:41am

launish116 wrote: »

Can see him more and more on the wing, competition for the backs is going to be stupidly crazy next season! bar the 9-10 axis

Ian porter is available

The Lost Sheep · 29-06-2016 9:02pm

Ulsters annual report was published recently...
http://ulsterrugby.com/branch/annual-report.php#.V3QmJU3JAdU

bilston · 29-06-2016 9:53pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Ulsters annual report was published recently...
http://ulsterrugby.com/branch/annual-report.php#.V3QmJU3JAdU

I didn't read it all but I did pick up on a predicted loss of 600,000 actually turning out to be a 70,000 surplus which is good news, but at the same time doesn't suggest there is much scope for any other big signings.

launish116 · 30-06-2016 7:58am

bilston wrote: »

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Ulsters annual report was published recently...
http://ulsterrugby.com/branch/annual-report.php#.V3QmJU3JAdU

I didn't read it all but I did pick up on a predicted loss of 600,000 actually turning out to be a 70,000 surplus which is good news, but at the same time doesn't suggest there is much scope for any other big signings.

If I understood right, we're in surplus but at the same time we have paid of our debt? so not in a totally bad position. Definitely stronger than some other provinces! Still feel its gonna be a season wasted without a normal decent back rower.

Utah_Saint · 30-06-2016 10:41am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Ulster's starting full back for next season arrives

https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby/status/747826207442505728

Charlie looks like a serious unit.

Utah_Saint · 30-06-2016 10:49am

Anyone know when the Pro12 fixtures for 16/17 will be out?

bilston · 03-07-2016 10:05am

I was just reading on uafc that Henry is out 3 months. That would probably mean he will miss the start of the season.

Any ideas on the back row then?!!!

No Henry, no Henderson, no Reidy, no Coetzee (presumably wouldn't have been available until late Oct anyway).

6 Diack
7 ?????
8 Wilson

20 Dow

Is Ross still with us next season?

Utah_Saint · 03-07-2016 10:24am

Maybe Treadwell?

The Lost Sheep · 03-07-2016 10:42am

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Maybe Treadwell?

Treadwell is a second row. Perhaps might cover 6 but I don't think he's played much there.

bilston · 03-07-2016 10:57am

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Maybe Treadwell?

Yeah Treadwell could be an option, but we specifically need a 7. He sounds more like a lock cum 6.

Taggart has been released. Ross has played 7 before but I think we all have similar views on that. Is Joyce still.in the squad? The only other one I can think of is Conall Boomer. But I've no idea if he would be up to it yet. We may just have to stick Wilson or Diack to 7.

bilston · 03-07-2016 11:41am

UAFC also saying Nelson will be out until Christmas and that Tuohy and Bowe will likely miss the start of the season.

awec · 03-07-2016 1:34pm

bilston wrote: »

UAFC also saying Nelson will be out until Christmas and that Tuohy and Bowe will likely miss the start of the season.

Oh fabulous.

bilston · 03-07-2016 1:52pm

So we will likely be without the following at the start of the season

Rory Best (Rested)
Iain Henderson (Rested)
Dan Tuohy (Injured)
Chris Henry (Injured)
Sean Reidy (Rested - Although hopefully not for too long)
Marcell Coetzee (Injured/likely to have been with SA even if he was fit)
Paddy Jackson (Rested)
Stuart Olding (Rested)
Luke Marshall (Rested)
Andrew Trimble (Rested)
Craig Gilroy (Rested)
Jared Payne (Rested)
Tommy Bowe (Injured)
Peter Nelson (Injured)

Who plays 10?
Who plays 7?

The squad players will have to hit the ground running.

former total · 03-07-2016 2:21pm

bilston wrote: »

So we will likely be without the following at the start of the season

Rory Best (Rested)
Iain Henderson (Rested)
Dan Tuohy (Injured)
Chris Henry (Injured)
Sean Reidy (Rested - Although hopefully not for too long)
Marcell Coetzee (Injured/likely to have been with SA even if he was fit)
Paddy Jackson (Rested)
Stuart Olding (Rested)
Luke Marshall (Rested)
Andrew Trimble (Rested)
Craig Gilroy (Rested)
Jared Payne (Rested)
Tommy Bowe (Injured)
Peter Nelson (Injured)

Who plays 10?
Who plays 7?

The squad players will have to hit the ground running.

I don't think it's a given that everyone who went to SA will be rested. Certainly the likes of Gilroy and Reidy will be available from day one I'd say.

What is wrong with Henry?

Utah_Saint · 03-07-2016 2:41pm

Herring could play 7. Obviously that then creates a gap at hooker. Though we have some good young hookers coming through

Utah_Saint · 03-07-2016 2:41pm

Herring could play 7. Obviously that then creates a gap at hooker. Though we have some good young hookers coming through

bilston · 03-07-2016 2:53pm

former total wrote: »

bilston wrote: »

So we will likely be without the following at the start of the season

Rory Best (Rested)
Iain Henderson (Rested)
Dan Tuohy (Injured)
Chris Henry (Injured)
Sean Reidy (Rested - Although hopefully not for too long)
Marcell Coetzee (Injured/likely to have been with SA even if he was fit)
Paddy Jackson (Rested)
Stuart Olding (Rested)
Luke Marshall (Rested)
Andrew Trimble (Rested)
Craig Gilroy (Rested)
Jared Payne (Rested)
Tommy Bowe (Injured)
Peter Nelson (Injured)

Who plays 10?
Who plays 7?

The squad players will have to hit the ground running.

I don't think it's a given that everyone who went to SA will be rested. Certainly the likes of Gilroy and Reidy will be available from day one I'd say.

What is wrong with Henry?

Apparently he injured his shoulder in the first week of pre season.

blackdog1 · 03-07-2016 5:30pm

Utah_Saint wrote:

Herring could play 7. Obviously that then creates a gap at hooker. Though we have some good young hookers coming through

Bad idea. Ross is the obvious choice but then you have no fetcher in the back row... Ruddock isn't a 7 bit got on great but he had heaslip at 8 and stander at 6 both good on the deck.

b.gud · 05-08-2016 4:12pm

Rodney Ah You talking about the challenges poised by the Ulster fry

"I've settled in pretty well," enthused Ah You. "Everyone has been very welcoming to the new lads coming in, including myself. Pre-season has been good - it's been gruelling but I've managed to survive so far!"

http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/37813.php

stephen_n · 07-08-2016 9:25am

bilston wrote: »

So we will likely be without the following at the start of the season

Rory Best (Rested)
Iain Henderson (Rested)
Dan Tuohy (Injured)
Chris Henry (Injured)
Sean Reidy (Rested - Although hopefully not for too long)
Marcell Coetzee (Injured/likely to have been with SA even if he was fit)
Paddy Jackson (Rested)
Stuart Olding (Rested)
Luke Marshall (Rested)
Andrew Trimble (Rested)
Craig Gilroy (Rested)
Jared Payne (Rested)
Tommy Bowe (Injured)
Peter Nelson (Injured)

Who plays 10?
Who plays 7?

The squad players will have to hit the ground running.

Is Pienar your back up 10 or who's next in the pecking order now?

The Lost Sheep · 07-08-2016 11:15am

stephen_n wrote: »

Is Pienar your back up 10 or who's next in the pecking order now?

He might be used there considering their other options are very inexperienced. McPhillips, Windsor, Herron

Could Olding end up being used as a 10 considering depth of quality in midfield???

bilston · 07-08-2016 5:12pm

stephen_n wrote: »

bilston wrote: »

So we will likely be without the following at the start of the season

Rory Best (Rested)
Iain Henderson (Rested)
Dan Tuohy (Injured)
Chris Henry (Injured)
Sean Reidy (Rested - Although hopefully not for too long)
Marcell Coetzee (Injured/likely to have been with SA even if he was fit)
Paddy Jackson (Rested)
Stuart Olding (Rested)
Luke Marshall (Rested)
Andrew Trimble (Rested)
Craig Gilroy (Rested)
Jared Payne (Rested)
Tommy Bowe (Injured)
Peter Nelson (Injured)

Who plays 10?
Who plays 7?

The squad players will have to hit the ground running.

Is Pienar your back up 10 or who's next in the pecking order now?

Honestly I have no idea. Ulster play Leinster next week and then go to Exeter before playing Northampton at the Kingspan so we'll have a good idea after those games.

bilston · 07-08-2016 5:14pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

stephen_n wrote: »

Is Pienar your back up 10 or who's next in the pecking order now?

He might be used there considering their other options are very inexperienced. McPhillips, Windsor, Herron

Could Olding end up being used as a 10 considering depth of quality in midfield???

The problem with that is that Olding (as well as Jackson) will likely miss the first couple of weeks of the season.

former total · 07-08-2016 5:22pm

bilston wrote: »

The problem with that is that Olding (as well as Jackson) will likely miss the first couple of weeks of the season.

What's wrong with Olding now?!

CatFromHue · 07-08-2016 7:54pm

just the delayed return to action after the SA tour as far as I know

former total · 07-08-2016 9:19pm

I don't think that really applies anymore. I'd expect nearly all the South Africa tourists to be available from the start.

irishbucsfan · 07-08-2016 9:25pm

former total wrote: »

I don't think that really applies anymore. I'd expect nearly all the South Africa tourists to be available from the start.

I'd be surprised if we see summer starters before week 2 or 3...

bilston · 07-08-2016 9:52pm

Not taking any opponents for granted but given Ulster's first game is the Dragons at home we may be able to afford to give someone like McPhillips a run at 10, safe in the knowledge we have Pienaar or maybe Olding as back up (Jackson is one player who almost certainly won't be available from the start).

RobbieRuns · 07-08-2016 10:06pm

bilston wrote: »

Not taking any opponents for granted but given Ulster's first game is the Dragons at home we may be able to afford to give someone like McPhillips a run at 10, safe in the knowledge we have Pienaar or maybe Olding as back up (Jackson is one player who almost certainly won't be available from the start).

Heron would be ahead of McPhillips in the pecking order. I would say that you will see him in pre season.

bilston · 08-08-2016 1:35pm

RobbieRuns wrote: »

bilston wrote: »

Not taking any opponents for granted but given Ulster's first game is the Dragons at home we may be able to afford to give someone like McPhillips a run at 10, safe in the knowledge we have Pienaar or maybe Olding as back up (Jackson is one player who almost certainly won't be available from the start).

Heron would be ahead of McPhillips in the pecking order. I would say that you will see him in pre season.

I was wondering what the pecking order would be. I thought Herron missed out on the Irish U20s squad which is why I thought McPhillips would be ahead. I take it Herron was too old?

Number 137 · 08-08-2016 2:21pm

bilston wrote: »

I was wondering what the pecking order would be. I thought Herron missed out on the Irish U20s squad which is why I thought McPhillips would be ahead. I take it Herron was too old?

Herron would have been u20 last summer.

launish116 · 08-08-2016 2:37pm

looks like Marrcell Coetzee has arrived in Belfast!

bilston · 08-08-2016 9:20pm

http://www.the42.ie/marcel-coetzee-ulster-2917338-Aug2016/

Brief interview with Marcell. He is saying all the right things anyway. I can't wait to see him lining out for Ulster.

thomond2006 · 08-08-2016 9:31pm

I hope the time out will allow him to refresh. He probably has more miles on the clock than most 25 year old professional players!

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