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  • #52
    Mr.Saturn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    cena wrote: »
    I have never been a fan of brain.

    Bobby Heenan don't give a sh*t.


  • #53
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    let me preface this by saying that I am so happy that Bryan is in his current position, he's the most exciting performer in years, is so over and its absolutely incredible to see him getting everything he deserves.

    however, a serious problem I see developing is that he just isn't imposing physically. I mean the babyface getting his revenge story is all well and good, and worked so well with Austin, becuase he was such a brawler you could believe that he could take out numerous guys.

    I just dont buy that with Bryan, in a structured match, absolutely, I can 100% get behind him, but for these brawl segments, of which im sure there will be a few more, he just doesnt seem to cut it. Even steph towered over him.


  • #54
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I wouldnt get too excited just yet. His title reign lasted only a couple of minutes at the end of the day. Also the little fact that WWE tried to bury him and he ended up forcing them to put him in the main event instead. Had Cena not been injured, would they have given Bryan the win? A fit Cena would go against Orton and co. An injured Cena however, needs someone else in the role.

    The fact that he got over by himself is what worries me more than the fact that I think he's only getting the current storyline due to Cena being injured. Vince has never been fond of letting people be the star unless he decided they would be well in advance. I wont be convinced until he has a real title reign.


  • #55
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    gnfnrhead wrote: »

    The fact that he got over by himself is what worries me more than the fact that I think he's only getting the current storyline due to Cena being injured. Vince has never been fond of letting people be the star unless he decided they would be well in advance. I wont be convinced until he has a real title reign.

    alot of bryan getting over has had to do with wwe booking since last year, they were the ones that focused on the yes stuff like bringing a t-shirt out within days of mania 28, they were the ones that had bryan all over tv between mania and summerslam last year including 35 minutes in the ring interacting with punk/rock/vince at raw 1000, team hell no were all over tv and the tag belts were the number 2 title in wwe at that time (something that was unheard of in the years previous when those belts were treated poorly)

    you can say bryan got over himself (which he did to a point) but compare bryans push and ryders a few years ago, you can only go so far without wwes backing, bryans single push since mania 29 is something ryder could only dream about


  • #56
    grames_bond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    you can say bryan got over himself (which he did to a point) but compare bryans push and ryders a few years ago, you can only go so far without wwes backing, bryans single push since mania 29 is something ryder could only dream about

    well at the same time, there is a difference between these two.....Bryan can actually wrestle!


  • #57
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    And he's not an annoying mark for himself.


  • #58
    Mick Murdock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Mick Murdock


    If wrestling was legit, I still don't see why it's so implausible that small gifted technical wrestler couldn't kick the sh*t out of a large muscle head. His size is irrelevant. It's a show.


  • #59
    2nd Row Donkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    D.Q wrote: »
    l

    however, a serious problem I see developing is that he just isn't imposing physically. I mean the babyface getting his revenge story is all well and good, and worked so well with Austin, becuase he was such a brawler you could believe that he could take out numerous guys.

    I just dont buy that with Bryan, in a structured match, absolutely, I can 100% get behind him, but for these brawl segments, of which im sure there will be a few more, he just doesnt seem to cut it. Even steph towered over him.

    Interesting point. I feel the same but just didn't know it until I read your post.

    Perhaps he could utilise a move something along the lines of a stunner or the RKO (but not the actual stunner/RKO) to add that threat to his character, some to neutralize an opponent from out of nowhere - no matter how big or strong.


  • #60
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    They should play to his technical ability for that. The commentators frequently talk about his repertoire of submissions, but if he added a little bit of jujitsu he could dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge his way around long enough to clear the ring.


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  • #61
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,408 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    I was saying for a while he should use the knee trembler Regal had, his move on Cena was perfect for him in my opinion as it can have a long set up like sweet chin music or more sudden.


  • #62
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    Give him the overdrive!


  • #63
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    I think this was hacked:

    P6PCFBe.png


  • #64
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,501 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Manning3000 wrote: »
    Ya. Was thinking that today, we will then get him chasing the title again and we all know the chase is the best part. They should drag it out alittle

    I wonder can they drag out the current feud until WM 30, I would like to see D Bryan Vs. HHH at some stage with HHH putting him over cleanly
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #65
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Threads merged. No point in having 2 threads going with the exact same title.


  • #66
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    How ridiculously over is Bryan now? It has been a long time since we have seen a spectacle like we have at the end of a PPV and Raw. Sure, the "YES" thing is gimmicky, but he has made it fun. Give the "YES" gimmick to a lesser mortal and it wouldnt be half as popular.

    The payoff to this angle had better be huge as they are certainly building it brilliantly.


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  • #67
    Loughc
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    Is it not a bit tarnished that both of his WWE Title regins have been so embarrassingly short?


  • #68
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Loughc wrote: »
    Is it not a bit tarnished that both of his WWE Title regins have been so embarrassingly short?

    To me, what is happening is wrestling 101. A guys popularity starts spiralling upwards, but is not quite ready to actually be the top man. So to keep him relevant THE MAN start screwing with him. The fans stay interested, the character keeps momentum, and leads up to a huge climax where the underdog finally permanently overcomes the odds.

    My only issue is that they may have booked themselves into a corner as when he does win it again, will the fans believe he finally has it? Unless there is a "loser leaves town" style stipulation with HHH ultimatley getting the sack?


  • #69
    Loughc
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    The only problem with the HHH Power Trip angle is it's being diluted with having Big Show & The Rhodes Family so heavily involved. Will some of Bryan's gained momentum be lost with the storyline spread over so many faces?


  • #70
    Cianan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Cianan2


    I like the way the story is going, but I wish they had kept the belt off him until Mania. That would have been amazing, here's hoping they go a route similar to Bryan being told he'll never have another title shot again as long as HHH is in charge, defying odd's, winning the rumble and finally getting the shot at Mania - the true underdog against the MAN's odds.

    I was thinking it may get stale, as it is so far away - an Orton punt ordered by HHH, and then a return in the rumble would be awesome


  • #71
    LOTD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭LOTD


    Loughc wrote: »
    The only problem with the HHH Power Trip angle is it's being diluted with having Big Show & The Rhodes Family so heavily involved. Will some of Bryan's gained momentum be lost with the storyline spread over so many faces?


    I don't think so, offshoots to the main angle are good and keeps things interesting plus it involves more characters who need to develop.


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  • #72
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    WWE.com article about Daniel "Bryan Danielson" Bryan's stint on the indies:
    http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/history-of-daniel-bryan-part-one

    DB2.jpg


  • #73
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Very good article. The links to other stories and photographs are excellent too. Looking forward to Part 2!


  • #74
    Diabhal Beag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    The eye-patch is the best thing he's ever done.


  • #75
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    A few nice memories in that small article.

    I think watching him develop his career in ROH, PWG and Japan is one of the most satisfying feelings I have had since I have started watching wrestling.

    The series with Morishima, Aries, McGuinness, KENTA, Samoa Joe to name but a few are all must see.

    I had many disagreements here and elsewhere with people who felt that he was an indie darling who really didn't have much to offer. How wrong they were.

    That being said, and I am repeating myself here, I never thought he would go as far as he has and will go (despite making a tongue in cheek prediction years ago he would headline WM30...against CM Punk).


  • #76
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/history-of-daniel-bryan-part-two-26149549/page-4

    Part 2 of the WWE article.


  • #77
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,501 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1



    There has been a lot of talk within WWE about Daniel Bryan winning the 2014
    Royal Rumble match. WWE reportedly has plans in place through Survivor Series
    and some main event plans in mind for the Rumble.

    Yes Yes Yes
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #78
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Remember this post/story: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=85273948&postcount=30

    Meltzer in the Observer:
    Speaking of Cena, a few weeks back we reported you’d see his face back on TV this month with the Susan G. Komen stuff, and he immediately shot that down saying he wouldn’t be seen on TV until he’s ready to wrestle again. And this past week, when they kicked off their campaign, there his face was as the company spokesperson. Reminds me of the Shawn Michaels deal from four months ago where Michaels talked about how there was a guy who Vince didn’t see as being able to be a top guy, as in put in the main money drawing spot, and Michaels argued for the guy. Keep in mind this coincided with Bryan getting the Cena match that was at first to be at Money in the Bank, but then moved to SummerSlam, before Cena got hurt. I was told at the time he was referring to Bryan. He said that was wrong, that Vince has always loved Bryan, and that it was a 6-3, 240 pound guy he was telling Vince was going to be the next top guy and you’d see it very soon. This was months ago. Yep, they’d ask Michaels, who doesn’t follow the product, about a guy who isn’t the guy he got started, and Cesaro or Sandow have been moved to a top money drawing position on the PPV shows after that conversation.

    Classic


  • #79
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Yes Yes Yes

    I highly doubt they know what they are doing in 4 weeks, let alone nearly 4 months.


  • #80
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,501 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Daniel Bryan is indeed out of the WWE title picture after the storyline “reset” at least Monday’s Raw. For now, there are no plans for Bryan to contend for the championship.
    There is at least some talk of putting some contention back on Bryan during WrestleMania season but he is in a program with CM Punk and The Wyatt Family for the next few months.
    In WWE’s mind, they made Bryan a star and showed the audience that he can hang with their other top Superstars. The storyline is that Bryan couldn’t overcome The Authority, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon, so later on down the line this can be addressed again Source
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #81
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Out for the time being. I see Bryan wining the rumble and sending the audience home happy at Wrestlemania


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  • #82
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    It would have been better for Bryan to never have got involved with Trips ala Punk, it did nothing for either bar stall momentum.

    Probably been sent down the card as punishment for Summerslam not drawing well:(


  • #83
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Out for the time being. I see Bryan wining the rumble and sending the audience home happy at Wrestlemania

    Then find a way to un-do it the next night on Raw.

    Bryan's main event push is dead in the water and his reactions have been getting less over time. He was hot as fcuk at Summerslam before the pointless bait and switches. Now he's back to being a midcarder with Orton, Cena, Punk and even Big Show way ahead of him.

    Best Bryan can hope for is something with Michaels. Lumping him with the no hopers that are the Wyatt's will only drag him further from the main event.


  • #84
    Gorm_0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭Gorm_0


    It's only fair that they took Bryan back to the midcard, the story would have dragged on for far too long. A story with punk and the Wyatts will be good for them up until survivor series/royal rumble as the promos will be unbelievable! I'd say there's some entertaining stuff on the horizon from this group


  • #85
    Gorm_0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭Gorm_0


    It's only fair that they took Bryan back to the midcard, the story would have dragged on for far too long. A story with punk and the Wyatts will be good for them up until survivor series/royal rumble as the promos will be unbelievable! I'd say there's some entertaining stuff on the horizon from this group


  • #86
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Out for the time being. I see Bryan wining the rumble and sending the audience home happy at Wrestlemania

    WWE bring out the big sharks for Mania - Brock, Taker, Rock, Triple H etc so Bryan getting a chance for the spotlight is unlikely. I hope I'm wrong on that. I don't see why WWE won't/haven't pulled the trigger on Bryan as babyface champion on top. They could still have the same awful feud but at least they'd be helping cement a new main eventer.

    Perhaps he's a victim of WWE's circular creative BS: Book him poorly so he doesn't get over. Doesn't get over? Book him poorly. They've done so well post-Mania with Bryan, and dropped the ball as soon as they included Triple H in the mix to get himself over circa SummerSlam.


  • #87
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,501 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    WWE bring out the big sharks for Mania - Brock, Taker, Rock, Triple H etc so Bryan getting a chance for the spotlight is unlikely. I hope I'm wrong on that. I don't see why WWE won't/haven't pulled the trigger on Bryan as babyface champion on top. They could still have the same awful feud but at least they'd be helping cement a new main eventer.

    Perhaps he's a victim of WWE's circular creative BS: Book him poorly so he doesn't get over. Doesn't get over? Book him poorly. They've done so well post-Mania with Bryan, and dropped the ball as soon as they included Triple H in the mix to get himself over circa SummerSlam.

    Would HHH ever put him over in a Mania match, I think HHH Vs. D Bryan at WM 30 with D Bryan getting the win clean would be great
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #88
    Gorm_0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭Gorm_0


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Would HHH ever put him over in a Mania match, I think HHH Vs. D Bryan at WM 30 with D Bryan getting the win clean would be great

    Can never see HHH putting D Bryan over himself at Wrestlemania 30, although if it did it would take some booking to work at Mania.


  • #89
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Then find a way to un-do it the next night on Raw.

    Bryan's main event push is dead in the water and his reactions have been getting less over time. He was hot as fcuk at Summerslam before the pointless bait and switches. Now he's back to being a midcarder with Orton, Cena, Punk and even Big Show way ahead of him.

    Best Bryan can hope for is something with Michaels. Lumping him with the no hopers that are the Wyatt's will only drag him further from the main event.

    This past year Bryan was a tag champion, bet Cena clean, worked with the company highers up (Kane, Cena, Undertaker, Triple H, Vince etc.) and won his first WWE championship. The guy is in with the big boys. As for Summerslam most of the promotional material that I saw was for CM Punk vs. Brock. Bryan, at the time, was just another randomer to give Cena a match such as Henry and Ryback. This was Bryan first major PPV. I would be looking more into Bryan merch figures after the match.


  • #90
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,501 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Gorm_0 wrote: »
    Can never see HHH putting D Bryan over himself at Wrestlemania 30, although if it did it would take some booking to work at Mania.

    I always thought HHH Vs. D Bryan was the end game of this authority feud
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  • #91
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Would HHH ever put him over in a Mania match, I think HHH Vs. D Bryan at WM 30 with D Bryan getting the win clean would be great

    I could actually see this happening, mostly because H could use it as his go-to "I put guys over, see??" for the next decade. Not enough people remember him 'putting over' Shelton Benjamin anymore :p


  • #92
    Angron
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    I could actually see this happening, mostly because H could use it as his go-to "I put guys over, see??" for the next decade. Not enough people remember him 'putting over' Shelton Benjamin anymore :p
    :pac:


  • #93
    Gorm_0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭Gorm_0


    Angron wrote: »
    :pac:
    Hahaha that is brilliant!


  • #94
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Jester252 wrote: »
    This past year Bryan was a tag champion, bet Cena clean, worked with the company highers up (Kane, Cena, Undertaker, Triple H, Vince etc.) and won his first WWE championship. The guy is in with the big boys. As for Summerslam most of the promotional material that I saw was for CM Punk vs. Brock. Bryan, at the time, was just another randomer to give Cena a match such as Henry and Ryback. This was Bryan first major PPV. I would be looking more into Bryan merch figures after the match.

    He was lumped into a tag team because they didnt have anything else for him to do. He and Kane made it work and WWE decided to let it drag on far too long. Besides, being the tag champion when there are no other teams isnt much.

    Beat Cena clean and then it was forgotten about a minute later. Has it been mentioned much, if at all, since?

    His first WWE Championship reign lasted all of two minutes, and one of those minutes was spent being dead after a Pedigree. Hardly something to brag about. His second reign lasted 24 hours before they did another bait and switch.

    He was momentarily in with the big boys. Now he is in with the failures that are the Wyatt's.

    Cena vs Bryan was the main event IIRC, not Punk vs Lesnar.

    They fcuked up big time. No two ways about it.


  • #95
    Gorm_0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭Gorm_0


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    He was lumped into a tag team because they didnt have anything else for him to do. He and Kane made it work and WWE decided to let it drag on far too long. Besides, being the tag champion when there are no other teams isnt much.

    Beat Cena clean and then it was forgotten about a minute later. Has it been mentioned much, if at all, since?

    His first WWE Championship reign lasted all of two minutes, and one of those minutes was spent being dead after a Pedigree. Hardly something to brag about. His second reign lasted 24 hours before they did another bait and switch.

    He was momentarily in with the big boys. Now he is in with the failures that are the Wyatt's.

    Cena vs Bryan was the main event IIRC, not Punk vs Lesnar.

    They fcuked up big time. No two ways about it.

    Wyatts aren't failures they've barely been on Raw, only for a few months, the right thing is being done with them mid card feuds to gain slow momentum, rather than being thrusted into the main event only to fail and be sent BACK to the midcard where they would most likely be endeavoured one by one.


  • #96
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,501 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    It would have been better for Bryan to never have got involved with Trips ala Punk, it did nothing for either bar stall momentum.

    Probably been sent down the card as punishment for Summerslam not drawing well:(

    The Miz was the host of Summerslam :P
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  • #97
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Gorm_0 wrote: »
    Wyatts aren't failures they've barely been on Raw, only for a few months, the right thing is being done with them mid card feuds to gain slow momentum, rather than being thrusted into the main event only to fail and be sent BACK to the midcard where they would most likely be endeavoured one by one.

    They have failed in every way imaginable. Compare them to the Shield if you think otherwise. That's a successful faction right from day one. The Wyatt's have stumbled and fallen well short of expectations.

    Debuted in a big way, had an awful showing with Kane, took Kane out, did nothing, did nothing some more, people stopped caring, last ditch effort now by dragging Bryan and Punk down to their level.


  • #98
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    He was lumped into a tag team because they didnt have anything else for him to do. He and Kane made it work and WWE decided to let it drag on far too long. Besides, being the tag champion when there are no other teams isnt much.

    Beat Cena clean and then it was forgotten about a minute later. Has it been mentioned much, if at all, since?

    His first WWE Championship reign lasted all of two minutes, and one of those minutes was spent being dead after a Pedigree. Hardly something to brag about. His second reign lasted 24 hours before they did another bait and switch.

    He was momentarily in with the big boys. Now he is in with the failures that are the Wyatt's.

    Cena vs Bryan was the main event IIRC, not Punk vs Lesnar.

    They fcuked up big time. No two ways about it.

    Bryan is still one of the big boys. The Wyatts are not a failure yet, they are using both Punk and Bryan to build up the Wyatts for a team SS match.


  • #99
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Outside their entrance, they get crickets. You cant fail much harder than that.

    Bryan and Punk have been demoted rather than the Wyatt's being promoted.


  • #100
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    Outside their entrance, they get crickets. You cant fail much harder than that.

    Bryan and Punk have been demoted rather than the Wyatt's being promoted.

    Why do you what Bryan to fail?
    Taking a prediction at the SS card, the Shield, Big Show, Randy, Cena, ADR, and the Rodes will be booked in title matches. Looking at the rooster what big names are left for the SS match?
    Kane, Bryan and Punk


  • #101
    gnfnrhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Why do you what Bryan to fail?
    Taking a prediction at the SS card, the Shield, Big Show, Randy, Cena, ADR, and the Rodes will be booked in title matches. Looking at the rooster what big names are left for the SS match?
    Kane, Bryan and Punk

    I dont. WWE seem to.

    Survivor Series could have easily been:
    Shield, Orton + 1 (Triple H?) vs. Bryan, Show, Punk, Cody + Goldy (or Big E and 4 vs. 4)
    Cena vs ADR vs Sandow
    Kane, Miz + 2 (Ziggler?) vs. Wyatts + 1

    Much better than wasting Bryan and Punk. Also delays the Kane turn a little.


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