Body Found

Sam Quentin · 07-01-2019 6:47pm #1

I have a feeling this is going to be the body of a high profile missing person!?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/skeletal-remains-found-in-wexford-are-those-of-a-woman-37687870.html

07-01-2019 6:49pm

Such as......? What's with this cryptic rubbish?

Sam Quentin · 07-01-2019 6:51pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Such as......? What's with this cryptic rubbish?

Such as???????? Cryptic rubbish????
Don't apply for Master Mind :-))))))))

Harry Palmr · 07-01-2019 6:54pm

Which high profile person do you have in mind?

The Crowman · 07-01-2019 6:56pm

One of the high profile missing women cases from the late 90's is from Wexford. I've a feeling this is more recent. Can't imagine a body lying in a ditch for twenty years by the side of the road without being discovered earlier.

its_steve116 · 07-01-2019 6:57pm

Very saddened to hear that. My thoughts are with the family

begbysback · 07-01-2019 6:57pm

Badly decomposed, would it not be fully decomposed after 20 years?

Sardonicat · 07-01-2019 7:04pm

Skeletal remains.

Whoever the unfortunate is, RIP.
Let's hope this discovery can bring some tormented family a bit of peace.

victor8600 · 07-01-2019 7:06pm

The Crowman wrote: »

....Can't imagine a body lying in a ditch for twenty years by the side of the road without being discovered earlier.

Most probably this is a hit and run victim. A driver of a heavy car / truck moving at 80 km/h in the dark may not even notice that the car struck a person, while the said person may be knocked unconscious or dead into the ditch.

There was a recent case where an SUV driver struck a farmer who was walking on the side of a road wearing dark clothes. The unfortunate farmer was propelled several meters into the field outside the road. The driver noticed the impact but not the person his car struck. Only because the driver stopped and phoned the Garda the body was found.

kneemos · 07-01-2019 7:08pm

May not have been on the roadside. Didn't see a mention of it.

eviltwin · 07-01-2019 7:09pm

Every time skeletal remains are found people jump to conclusions that it's one of the missing women

It must be horrible for the family of a missing person hearing this news and waiting for further info.

Sundew · 07-01-2019 7:09pm

Wasn’t there an auld lad in his 80s who went missing in Wexford last year?
I didn’t hear if he was ever found!

wmpdd3 · 07-01-2019 7:10pm

I stopped the car when I heard it on the radio today.

I have to say I thought of one Wexford woman immediately.

Now confirmed to be a woman and a backpack was found nearby.

kneemos · 07-01-2019 7:15pm

Probably there since the summer and became apparent when the undergrowth died back.

macnug · 07-01-2019 7:45pm

Didnt Tina Satchwell's husband go to Wexford on the day she went missing???

zoe 3619 · 07-01-2019 8:08pm

Might be best not to speculate and make suggestions.
Just in case there are families out there wondering if she's theirs

Alrigghtythen · 07-01-2019 8:10pm

Very sad, but hopefully it will bring closure to a family.

wmpdd3 · 07-01-2019 8:16pm

macnug wrote: »

Didnt Tina Satchwell's husband go to Wexford on the day she went missing???

No, Dungarvan.

whisky_galore · 07-01-2019 8:18pm

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kneemos wrote: »

Probably there since the summer and became apparent when the undergrowth died back.

Found by a dog walker, probably caught the attention of the dog, otherwise it might never have been recovered.

castletownman · 07-01-2019 8:34pm

It's eerie enough. The body was found literally across the road from the GF's granny's home. And either on land owned by her uncle, or adjacent to it.

Without delving into amateur forensics, but I have often taken that road as a shortcut to her house, and it always struck me as remote, dark and quiet, particularly late at night. When I hear now that it was a female carrying a backpack, it seems sinister. There's even a reservoir further up the road to add to that sort of theory.

Kurumba · 08-01-2019 9:06am

castletownman wrote: »

It's eerie enough. The body was found literally across the road from the GF's granny's home. And either on land owned by her uncle, or adjacent to it.

Without delving into amateur forensics, but I have often taken that road as a shortcut to her house, and it always struck me as remote, dark and quiet, particularly late at night. When I hear now that it was a female carrying a backpack, it seems sinister. There's even a reservoir further up the road to add to that sort of theory.

Who’s the GF, what does that stand for?

Robocop Corcoran · 08-01-2019 9:07am

Kurumba wrote: »

Who’s the GF, what does that stand for?

Gaylord Focker

Tom Mann Centuria · 08-01-2019 9:09am

Kurumba wrote: »

Who’s the GF, what does that stand for?

Girlfriend?

paulbok · 08-01-2019 9:18am

Garda forensics

xalot · 08-01-2019 9:20am

The Irish Times are reporting a CV was found with the body and is believed to be an Italian woman in her 50s living a nomadic lifestyle. She was last heard from in 2017. No one reported her missing though many had expressed concerns about her lifestyle.

RIP.

seamus · 08-01-2019 9:41am

It's rare enough for such remains to be a murder; murders don't tend to just dump bodies in the open. Usually it's someone who has died accidentally and a long time ago. 2017 is unusually recent.

The Gardai said they were confident of IDing the body today, which would seem to confirm xalot's post that identifying documents were found with her. It would take 12 hours to confirm her ID with the Italian authorities.

RIP, I hope she didn't come to a violent end.

08-01-2019 11:49am

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Such as???????? Cryptic rubbish????
Don't apply for Master Mind :-))))))))

I wouldn't be too quick to fill out d'auld application form there yourself now, seeing as you appear to have serious issues skirting around what it is you actually want to say.

"Which US President was implicated in a scandal with an intern by the name of Monica Lewinski?"
"Ah now, I've a feeling that this fella is certainly a high profile guy, the sort of fella that everyone would be familiar with if you know what I mean *nudge* *wink*...."

Sam Quentin · 08-01-2019 4:45pm

eviltwin wrote: »

Every time skeletal remains are found people jump to conclusions that it's one of the missing women

It must be horrible for the family of a missing person hearing this news and waiting for further info.

Imagine,,,when a woman's body is found people start jumping to the conclusion that it's 'one if the missing women' .. imagine imagine.. ohhhhh the human mind is so complex lmao

Wheres Me Jumper? · 08-01-2019 4:52pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which high profile person do you have in mind?

Lord Lucan perhaps?

Lackey · 08-01-2019 6:06pm

xalot wrote: »

The Irish Times are reporting a CV was found with the body and is believed to be an Italian woman in her 50s living a nomadic lifestyle. She was last heard from in 2017. No one reported her missing though many had expressed concerns about her lifestyle.

RIP.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.breakingnews.ie/ireland/update-remains-found-in-wexford-were-in-bag-seen-in-ditch-around-christmas-eve-896231.html

If this is true it’s strange because bag was only seen around Christmas Eve ....so body was somewhere else for two years at least ?

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 08-01-2019 6:10pm

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

Lord Lucan perhaps?

I was thinking Shergar

Foweva Awone · 08-01-2019 6:12pm

Lackey wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.breakingnews.ie/ireland/update-remains-found-in-wexford-were-in-bag-seen-in-ditch-around-christmas-eve-896231.html

From that article:

"Gardaí are hoping the results will determine the course of their investigation and whether the woman's death was tragic or if a crime has been committed."

She was in a bag!

I'm fairly sure there's a crime involved.

Foweva Awone · 08-01-2019 6:22pm

My tuppence worth of mad speculation is that it's another Graham O'Dwyer victim. Someone mentioned the body was found near a reservoir (like his previous victim), I don't know the geography of the location but is it possible the body washed up from there? Even if EOH was his first victim - a big if - I find it hard to believe he was out there running free for so long afterwards without doing it again. Wexford isn't a million miles from where he lived. It's maybe possible.

frag420 · 08-01-2019 6:25pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which high profile person do you have in mind?

Tubridy...

victor8600 · 08-01-2019 6:28pm

Foweva Awone wrote: »

She was in a bag! I'm fairly sure there's a crime involved.

She was not. The bag in the article is a backpack presumably belonging to the deceased woman. Also as clear from this article : https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/mystery-surrounds-skeletal-remains-of-woman-found-in-roadside-drain-37689542.html , the body was found alongside a road with no evidence of any concealment. So it is likely she was hit by a car, which is of course tragic and a crime, but not it is a premeditated murder.

wakka12 · 08-01-2019 6:28pm

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Imagine,,,when a woman's body is found people start jumping to the conclusion that it's 'one if the missing women' .. imagine imagine.. ohhhhh the human mind is so complex lmao

Well it is a bit strange seeing as lots of people have gone missing in ireland since the 90's who arent the 7/8 young women who went missing around that time together in the leinster region

refusetolose · 08-01-2019 6:34pm

victor8600 wrote: »

She was not. The bag in the article is a backpack presumably belonging to the deceased woman. Also as clear from this article : https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/mystery-surrounds-skeletal-remains-of-woman-found-in-roadside-drain-37689542.html , the body was found alongside a road with no evidence of any concealment. So it is likely she was hit by a car, which is of course tragic and a crime, but not it is a premeditated murder.

"A local Wexford councillor says the skeletal remains found near Ferns yesterday were in a bag."

Happy4all · 08-01-2019 6:34pm

victor8600 wrote: »

She was not. The bag in the article is a backpack presumably belonging to the deceased woman. Also as clear from this article : https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/mystery-surrounds-skeletal-remains-of-woman-found-in-roadside-drain-37689542.html , the body was found alongside a road with no evidence of any concealment. So it is likely she was hit by a car, which is of course tragic and a crime, but not it is a premeditated murder.

Radio report said woman spotted a large bag Xmas evening when out walking. When she returned days later, she looked inside the bag and found remains. Or maybe the radio report had it wrong?

Sundew · 08-01-2019 6:36pm

Lackey wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.breakingnews.ie/ireland/update-remains-found-in-wexford-were-in-bag-seen-in-ditch-around-christmas-eve-896231.html

If this is true it’s strange because bag was only seen around Christmas Eve ....so body was somewhere else for two years at least ?

Just because it was only “ noticed” on Christmas Eve doesn’t mean it wasn’t there! The weather may have had a part to play in remains/bag becoming viewable. I’ve often seen things in ditches in the locality where I live and sometimes out of curiousity you would stop to check it out at a later date! In rural areas it would be common to see plastic wrapping of bales in ditches!

Edited to say Hopefully the report of her remains being found in a bag are not true and that she isn’t a victim of a crime!

SEPT 23 1989 · 08-01-2019 6:40pm

Would there not be a slight bang off a rotting corpse?

kneemos · 08-01-2019 6:43pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would there not be a slight bang off a rotting corpse?

Not unusual to pass dead animals in a ditch.

ED E · 08-01-2019 6:45pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would there not be a slight bang off a rotting corpse?

Early on yes, not now. And in the cold bacterial action would be greatly reduced.

RTE described it as a very remote area.

victor8600 · 08-01-2019 6:50pm

refusetolose wrote: »

"A local Wexford councillor says the skeletal remains found near Ferns yesterday were in a bag."

Do you have a link for the quote?

Lackey · 08-01-2019 6:50pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would there not be a slight bang off a rotting corpse?

Local radio had a councillor on who said the bag would not have gone unnoticed where it was seen by the lady who walked her dog Christmas Eve, it wasn’t there previous to this as she takes the same route.
Just going by local radio, and the update on breaking news.
RIP now the poor woman regardless of circumstance.

Edited to add : RTÉ say it is rural But local radio said it is a well used road by locals ...what’s one man rural is another’s ‘well used road’

Lackey · 08-01-2019 6:50pm

victor8600 wrote: »

Do you have a link for the quote?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.breakingnews.ie/ireland/update-remains-found-in-wexford-were-in-bag-seen-in-ditch-around-christmas-eve-896231.html

Happy4all · 08-01-2019 6:58pm

Lackey wrote: »

Local radio had a councillor on who said the bag would not have gone unnoticed where it was seen by the lady who walked her dog Christmas Eve, it wasn’t there previous to this as she takes the same route.
Just going by local radio, and the update on breaking news.
RIP now the poor woman regardless of circumstance.

Edited to add : RTÉ say it is rural But local radio said it is a well used road by locals ...what’s one man rural is another’s ‘well used road’

Early days for speculation, but based on above, it would suggest someone wanted the victim found and identified.

victor8600 · 08-01-2019 6:59pm

Lackey wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.breakingnews.ie/ireland/update-remains-found-in-wexford-were-in-bag-seen-in-ditch-around-christmas-eve-896231.html

I see, strange that The Independent's article failed to mention such an important detail. Quote: "One officer said: "This could be a death from natural causes, or possibly a traffic incident or something more sinister...." ". Seems like a very strange assumption then from the officer. People rarely die in a ditch inside a bag naturally.

kneemos · 08-01-2019 7:02pm

Think there was mention of a homeless woman in the area.
Might have been sleeping in the bag.

dense · 08-01-2019 7:07pm

I think the bag refers to her belongings, rucksack/backpack was mentioned yesterday, as opposed to a bag she was in.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 08-01-2019 7:07pm

Dia1988 wrote: »

Arrest Richard now!

Mod note: Dia1988, don't post in this thread again.

Buford T. Justice

seamus · 08-01-2019 7:07pm

victor8600 wrote: »

People rarely die in a ditch inside a bag naturally.

Though if she was living a nomadic lifestyle, she may very well have been sleeping outside in a bivvy bag.

This basically looks like a big heavy duty rubbish bag. If she died of hypothermia or natural causes, then it may very well look to a passer by like a body in a bag.

Just providing some supposition. Like I say earlier, twould be odd for a murderer to just dump a body in the open.
That said, Graham Dwyer dumped Elaine O'Hara's body in the open, so...

Body Found

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