General Ryanair discusion

Bob24 · 19-10-2018 11:51am

L1011 wrote: »

That may be the grounds for the recording but doesn't give carte blanche to release it

Exactly. It is not rocket science to understand that there is a world of a difference between storing personally identifiable data and publicly releasing it.

For exemple my employer stores my name, address, salary, phone number, etc as I have a contract with them and it is necessary to have me as an employee ... all very legal and fair, but in no way does it give them the right to post all of that information on Twitter!

MoeJay · 19-10-2018 11:56am

The whole CCTV issue is a mere sideshow to try and get away from the fact that it would appear that an operator did not provide, for some reason, suitable accommodation for its crew.

That is the real issue.

Bob24 · 19-10-2018 12:04pm

MoeJay wrote: »

The whole CCTV issue is a mere sideshow to try and get away from the fact that it would appear that an operator did not provide, for some reason, suitable accommodation for its crew.

That is the real issue.

True, but I actually don’t think it is a very good diversion. While people talk about the recording it also keeps the real issue under the public eye, whereas otherwise it would probably die down.

Comhrá · 19-10-2018 12:14pm

Bob24 wrote: »

True, but I actually don’t think it is a very good diversion. While people talk about the recording it also keeps the real issue under the public eye, whereas otherwise it would probably die down.

It's not uncommon for Ryanair to let their spitefulness towards their staff get in the way of their better judgement and resultant negative publicity.

Bussywussy · 20-10-2018 2:22pm

kevinandrew wrote: »

Ryanair's very own Peter Bellew (COO) has said the lounge opened to crew and passengers at 05:15 so the crews must have spent much more than just "a short time" in the crew room before being moved. Either way, an airport lounge is still inadequate.

Cough cough he's here

SeeMoreBut · 23-10-2018 6:18am

If I put an adult in as a child and a child in as an adult should I contact Ryanair to fix up?

Won't allow me to change the title without paying money within the 24 hours

LeChienMefiant · 23-10-2018 6:20am

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

If I put an adult in as a child and a child in as an adult should I contact Ryanair to fix up?

Won't allow me to change the title without paying money within the 24 hours

Nothing to lose by calling, they have more flexibility within first 24 hours.

Edit: I've also had success with the web chat before where I needed to change baby's date of birth. Baby name changes are very easy to do online for free.

SeeMoreBut · 23-10-2018 6:54am

Hopefully they’ll be flexible. Not like I’m doing a person change. Just a bad typo mistake

SeeMoreBut · 23-10-2018 8:47am

Chat said titles are not printed on boarding passes

SeeMoreBut · 23-10-2018 5:28pm

They made the change anyway.

They have their good sides

trellheim · 29-10-2018 1:17pm

only a few days to the new bag policy I expect mayhem on thursday morning on the 100 gates

Someone asked me a question I could not answer .... if everyone wants to bring a wheely on board isnt there a limit on the number of priority boardings that can be purchased what happens if a>b ?

VG31 · 29-10-2018 1:45pm

trellheim wrote: »

only a few days to the new bag policy I expect mayhem on thursday morning on the 100 gates

Someone asked me a question I could not answer .... if everyone wants to bring a wheely on board isnt there a limit on the number of priority boardings that can be purchased what happens if a>b ?

I imagine in that case the only option would be to pay the slightly higher fee to check your cabin baggage at the check-in desk.

john boye · 31-10-2018 7:10pm

I see the first FR B737-max is coming together in Everett

ongarboy · 10-11-2018 3:08pm

I've noticed twice recently when arriving at the gate for Ryanair flights that the priority queue was massively long (100 pax) and no one was using the non priority queue. On both occasions we just sailed past the queue with our non priority tickets and went through the gate in seconds. I felt like I was jumping the queue. This was before the new punitive baggage restriction rules that might tempt more to buy priority tickets but surely not the vast majority of pax? A friend noticed it on her flight too recently. Has anyone else noticed it and what would be the reason? I thought the whole purpose of paying premium was to skip the queues, not the other way round?

Under His Eye · 10-11-2018 3:22pm

I believe they can sell up to 110 priority tickets for each flight.

trellheim · 10-11-2018 6:14pm

I thought the whole purpose of paying premium was to skip the queues, not the other way round?

its to bring a rollie not to skip the queues

Irish Steve · 10-11-2018 7:23pm

It's to avoid the queue at the bag drop before security, and the wait at the other end for the bags to arrive on the belt, priority is cheaper than paying for a hold bag if it's taken when the booking is made.

For us, it will mean a reduction in the number of flights we take each year, which probably won't upset Ryanair, as they seem to be able to pack their flights to the gills anyway.

blackwhite · 19-11-2018 3:57pm

ongarboy wrote: »

I've noticed twice recently when arriving at the gate for Ryanair flights that the priority queue was massively long (100 pax) and no one was using the non priority queue. On both occasions we just sailed past the queue with our non priority tickets and went through the gate in seconds. I felt like I was jumping the queue. This was before the new punitive baggage restriction rules that might tempt more to buy priority tickets but surely not the vast majority of pax? A friend noticed it on her flight too recently. Has anyone else noticed it and what would be the reason? I thought the whole purpose of paying premium was to skip the queues, not the other way round?

One really has to question WTF the Ryanair staff manning the gate are at in those situations.

Surely they shouldn't be boarding non-priority PAX until the priority line has gone through?

rivegauche · 19-11-2018 4:17pm

It makes little difference; From Frankfurt Main all three shuttle buses were waiting at the plane for boarding and only opened up the doors and vomited forth all passengers together at the same time when given the signal to do so.

At least the booking system is clever enough to know that Security Fast Track is not available in Frankfurt Main so that is some money not wasted and I find no reference to priority boarding on the web page so they don't appear to be pushing it that heavily.

rivegauche · 19-11-2018 4:55pm

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1064029721216790528/photo/1

The first of the High Capacity Max 8 planes(formerly known as Max200), EI-HAT, is seen for the first time.

Note the additional doors rear of the wings.

View Profile · 19-11-2018 5:53pm

I feel sorry for the cabin crew and pax in that thing. Smaller galleys so reduced privacy for crew and tiny toilets shoe-horned into the rear bulkhead.

kub · 19-11-2018 6:11pm

rivegauche wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1064029721216790528/photo/1

The first of the High Capacity Max 8 planes(formerly known as Max200), EI-HAT, is seen for the first time.

Note the additional doors rear of the wings.

I have to ask, how come the rudder already has the RYR colour scheme, had they a few extra left over i wonder ?

Under His Eye · 19-11-2018 6:18pm

rivegauche wrote: »

It makes little difference; From Frankfurt Main all three shuttle buses were waiting at the plane for boarding and only opened up the doors and vomited forth all passengers together at the same time when given the signal to do so.

At least the booking system is clever enough to know that Security Fast Track is not available in Frankfurt Main so that is some money not wasted and I find no reference to priority boarding on the web page so they don't appear to be pushing it that heavily.

On my most recent flight, priority passengers were allowed to board the bus first, then the non priority passengers were allowed to board the same bus and they got off first to the aircraft. A complete joke.

Bebop · 19-11-2018 8:09pm

My wife booked a trip Dub-Fuertaventura, booked in October, travelled this week, added Priority because she was unsure of the new checked bags policy, in November she tried to add a 10Kg checked bag (€6) but was only offered 20Kg option for €40 each way I rang customer service but they insisted that Priority passengers can only add the more expensive option of a 20kg bag
I never read or heard of this rule which seems a bit severe, does anybody know the reason for it?

john boye · 19-11-2018 11:25pm

kub wrote: »

I have to ask, how come the rudder already has the RYR colour scheme, had they a few extra left over i wonder ?

Think they always come off the line like that

Pat Dunne · 20-11-2018 2:49pm

Bebop wrote: »

My wife booked a trip Dub-Fuertaventura, booked in October, travelled this week, added Priority because she was unsure of the new checked bags policy, in November she tried to add a 10Kg checked bag (€6) but was only offered 20Kg option for €40 each way I rang customer service but they insisted that Priority passengers can only add the more expensive option of a 20kg bag
I never read or heard of this rule which seems a bit severe, does anybody know the reason for it?

"Priority", allows for one 10kg bag and handbag. For all additional bags, up to a limit of 20kg, you pay the price!
Most if not all airlines will have a similar policy for additional bags above your "Priority/Standard" allowance.

bikeman1 · 20-11-2018 5:01pm

I flew with Ryanair from Dublin last Friday for the first time since the baggage rules changed. I had booked the flight a fair way in advance, so I was given a "free checked in 10kg bag".

I found the whole process very fast and slick (after I worked out how to put the sticker on my case!). There was plenty of space on board for those who had priority and could bring a bag. There was no silly tagging at the gate. No loading up of bags on the apron. No people taking the yellow tags off, then getting on board only to have them re tagged and put in the hold.

Have we finally got a system that works? It seemed very good to me. Bag was also out very quick on the other end.

razorblunt · 20-11-2018 5:06pm

What system?
I flew Ryanair at the weekend, all I could see was the Priority queue longer than General.
Folk in General had the same size bags. Only 6 were tagged for going in the hold.

billy few mates · 20-11-2018 5:06pm

kub wrote: »

I have to ask, how come the rudder already has the RYR colour scheme, had they a few extra left over i wonder ?

The rudder is painted and balanced before installation. If they didn’t do it this way they would have to remove the rudder for rebalancing after they painted the tail fin.
Flight control surfaces are critically balanced and anytime they repaint an aircraft they normally remove the flight controls and and paint them separately, they are then reweighed (to make sure they haven’t got too heavy) and then rebalanced on a special jig before being reinstalled.
On new build aircraft they paint and balance them before installation and then mask them off while they do the final aircraft livery paint.

Tenger · 21-11-2018 2:08pm

kub wrote: »

I have to ask, how come the rudder already has the RYR colour scheme, had they a few extra left over i wonder ?

Rudders would be manufactured in advance. (just in time manufacturing process)They are usually painted separately before assembly. Thus they know which rudder was going to which airframe.

rivegauche · 04-12-2018 11:23am

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2018/1204/1014965-ryanair-passenger-numbers/

.
.Meanwhile, the airline said its passenger numbers rose by grew 8% to 10.1 million in November from 9.3 million the same month last year.

Ryanair said its load factor - how many seats it fills on each flight - stood at 96% last month.

john boye · 16-12-2018 3:36pm

Don't know if it was mentioned here but Ryanair's last B737 NG was delivered on Friday. It'll be all Max deliveries from here on, starting in Spring.

rivegauche · 18-12-2018 1:07pm

Those Max planes will come in handy as various Countries will be steered by Green Party career politicians who are hell bent on implementing carbon taxes and introducing noise regulations everywhere. Germany is an example of one which will have Green Party supported Government next time around.
The lower emissions of those 737 Max will give a competitive advantage to Ryanair.
As for the 737-800 EI-GXN; it is their 531st from Boeing. The sold on a fair few along the way.

arubex · 19-12-2018 8:51am

rivegauche wrote: »

The lower emissions of those 737 Max will give a competitive advantage to Ryanair.

Ryanair is playing catch-up, they won't have any advantage. Easyjet have had the Neo in service since June 2018, Wizz Air will receive their first A321Neo in January 2019.

rivegauche wrote: »

As for the 737-800 EI-GXN; it is their <a href="http://www.airliners.de/ryanair-boeing-737/48135" target="_blank">531st</a> from Boeing.

I count 530, other websites say 571, plus the second-hand 737-700. I'll try to collate the order history.

Edit: here's what I've got so far. I was surprised there's no website that compiles orders by airlines in a nice tabular format.

025 Mar 1998 + 025 options
100 Jan 2002 + 050 options https://www.theguardian.com/business/2002/jan/24/theairlineindustry1
022 Jan 2003 + 078 options http://edition.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/01/31/ryanair.boeing/index.html
070 Feb 2005 + 070 options https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-gets-order-of-70-new-planes-from-ryanair/
( 005 converted options Jun 2005 https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Ryanair_exercises_options_on_five_Boeing_737s )
032 Sep 2006 https://www.independent.ie/business/ryanair-need-32-new-planes-to-meet-demand-26367414.html
175 Mar 2013 https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2013-06-19-Boeing-Ryanair-Finalize-Order-for-175-Next-Generation-737s
005 Apr 2014 https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2014-04-30-Boeing-Ryanair-Announce-Order-for-Five-Next-Generation-737s
003 Mar 2015

Ignoring options that gives 432. With options 633. Not much help without knowing which later orders were conversions of earlier options.

billie1b · 19-12-2018 12:01pm

arubex wrote: »

Ryanair is playing catch-up, they won't have any advantage. Easyjet have had the Neo in service since June 2018, Wizz Air will receive their first A321Neo in January 2019.

I count 530, other websites say 571, plus the second-hand 737-700. I'll try to collate the order history.

Edit: here's what I've got so far. I was surprised there's no website that compiles orders by airlines in a nice tabular format.

025 Mar 1998 + 025 options
100 Jan 2002 + 050 options https://www.theguardian.com/business/2002/jan/24/theairlineindustry1
022 Jan 2003 + 078 options http://edition.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/01/31/ryanair.boeing/index.html
070 Feb 2005 + 070 options https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-gets-order-of-70-new-planes-from-ryanair/
( 005 converted options Jun 2005 https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Ryanair_exercises_options_on_five_Boeing_737s )
032 Sep 2006 https://www.independent.ie/business/ryanair-need-32-new-planes-to-meet-demand-26367414.html
175 Mar 2013 https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2013-06-19-Boeing-Ryanair-Finalize-Order-for-175-Next-Generation-737s
005 Apr 2014 https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2014-04-30-Boeing-Ryanair-Announce-Order-for-Five-Next-Generation-737s
003 Mar 2015

Ignoring options that gives 432. With options 633. Not much help without knowing which later orders were conversions of earlier options.

There’s
457 737-800’s
01 737-700

arubex · 21-12-2018 2:25pm

billie1b wrote: »

There’s
457 737-800’s
01 737-700

Currently active, or total received? Ryanair's website states 400 in service and 115 on order, excluding the Max, so presumably active. I think it's due to the sheer volume that no-one seems to have a handle on exactly how many have been received and / or disposed. I suppose I could grep through the IAA registration records.

billie1b · 21-12-2018 3:12pm

arubex wrote: »

Currently active, or total received? Ryanair's website states 400 in service and 115 on order, excluding the Max, so presumably active. I think it's due to the sheer volume that no-one seems to have a handle on exactly how many have been received and / or disposed. I suppose I could grep through the IAA registration records.

They are the current active figures since the last fleet update on 17th December

Mebuntu · 04-01-2019 5:37pm

Anyone spot the glaring error on this Ryanair webpage?

https://corporate.ryanair.com/environment/

Under His Eye · 04-01-2019 5:47pm

727-200 fleet?

LOL!

Hotblack Desiato · 04-01-2019 7:22pm

They were noisy old buggers, they're just bigging up the next generation of their fleet even more by comparing it to the previous one instead of the current one. It doesn't say their current fleet is -200s

LXFlyer · 04-01-2019 7:28pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

They were noisy old buggers, they're just bigging up the next generation of their fleet even more by comparing it to the previous one instead of the current one. It doesn't say their current fleet is -200s

They didn’t fly Boeing 727s is the point the previous posters are making!

Hotblack Desiato · 04-01-2019 11:18pm

Whoops! Looks like a few people in Ryanair PR need to join me in Specsavers

Spanish Eyes · 04-01-2019 11:27pm

We booked to go away on 17th December to 10 Jan.

Cost was 120 e each way for both of us return. Bargain due to timings etc.

Then Mother got very ill and passed away before departure date. I just said OK, it wasn't to be and sucked it up.

Will not claim from insurance, nor will I claim the Charges or whatever either. Sh1t happens sometimes.

I'd rather have her back than a refund from an airline TBH.

Comhrá · 04-01-2019 11:44pm

Spanish Eyes, so sorry for your loss.

vectorvictor · 05-01-2019 12:02am

Mebuntu wrote: »

Anyone spot the glaring error on this Ryanair webpage?

https://corporate.ryanair.com/environment/

Would have been a nice experience!

I miss those 732's , they were patched up to within an inch of their life but they were real jets, not the fancy computerised Xbox in the sky we have now.

Back when Rescue 1 would take spotters for a little ramp tour I got to witness the prep of an ex Transavia bird on delivery. Looked gleaming.

They used to generate the most amazing scent of Avgas on engine start throughout the cabin that almost made me want to don a pilots jacket, goggles and do loop the loops.

plodder · 05-01-2019 12:21am

LXFlyer wrote: »

They didn’t fly Boeing 727s is the point the previous posters are making!

BAC 1-11s iirc in the early days, which were somewhat similar to the B727, though 2 engines rather than 3. I remember flying on them. Incredibly noisy from the outside, but remarkably quiet inside. Though I presume they meant 737-200 which is more recent history.

vectorvictor · 05-01-2019 12:30am

plodder wrote: »

BAC 1-11s iirc in the early days, which were somewhat similar to the B727, though 2 engines rather than 3. I remember flying on them. Incredibly noisy from the outside, but remarkably quiet inside.

Do you remember the individually wrapped Shortbreads ? They were a real treat with the mini can of orange (before the Finches from a bottle days I think) and all for (shock horror) free.

There were a few real personalities (and gentlemen) on the flight deck those days albeit severe lack of English and a few of them put the things down like they thought Luton was a carrier mid-ocean.

Hard to believe but FR used to have so much more character than it does today

LXFlyer · 05-01-2019 1:10am

plodder wrote: »

BAC 1-11s iirc in the early days, which were somewhat similar to the B727, though 2 engines rather than 3. I remember flying on them. Incredibly noisy from the outside, but remarkably quiet inside. Though I presume they meant 737-200 which is more recent history.

Of course they meant B737-200s - it’s a typo clearly. That was the point being made!

I well remember the ROMBAC 1-11s.

plodder · 05-01-2019 1:11am

vectorvictor wrote: »

Do you remember the individually wrapped Shortbreads ? They were a real treat with the mini can of orange (before the Finches from a bottle days I think) and all for (shock horror) free.

There were a few real personalities (and gentlemen) on the flight deck those days albeit severe lack of English and a few of them put the things down like they thought Luton was a carrier mid-ocean.

I don't remember the refreshments, but I do remember the pilots (Romanian?). Looking back those days were where most airlines were flag carriers and I would imagine like the national football team in terms of who was employed.

Under His Eye · 05-01-2019 1:13am

Were some of the original 737-200's ex Nordic countries? I remember there being some strange Nordic looking exit signs when I first flew Ryanair back in the early 90's.

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