Tom Clancy's The Division 2

OK so I almost have a decent PvE build done. Challenging is quite easy now and I did a Lvl4 checkpoint which was more or less fine too. I am aiming to do the raid though.

How good should the build be before I raid???? Could I get away with chancing it, or should I give it another couple weeks trying to min/max?

And most important I suppose, does it require multiple builds like Stolen Signal?

Rob2D wrote: »

OK so I almost have a decent PvE build done. Challenging is quite easy now and I did a Lvl4 checkpoint which was more or less fine too. I am aiming to do the raid though.

How good should the build be before I raid???? Could I get away with chancing it, or should I give it another couple weeks trying to min/max?

And most important I suppose, does it require multiple builds like Stolen Signal?

Yeah get over 80 damage to elites and over 25k on your ar or 30k on your lmg. You should be good.
Surprised with the amount of ye wo haven't run the raid yet.

From memory the specialist weapons only unlock in WT5. They're not great with the possible exception of the grenade launcher in limited circumstances.

I stopped getting blueprints from control points long before I had them all. The final few came from handing in projects.

yeah I'm pretty sure at the end it was the SHD supply projects that I got the final few blueprints. I'm missing a mod one and have something like 92/93 which is driving me crazy.


I really like the BTSU gloves / fire turret combo. I'm missing out on the +20% explosive but making up for it with the two utility mod slots. The turret is just insane in the right spot and stays up for 5 or 6 minutes. Once you get the right mods in the right skills it can make a big difference.


I have the same guns without skill specific mods. M60 with unhinged and the P416 with something (it's just a backup) I'd probably be better off going full skill nut I like the gun damage and survivability where it's at.

DeadlyByDesign wrote: »

Came back again to check the new content. For the most part it is good. Wish there was more. Ill still never forgive them for the lies about the raid though. But I am starting to enjoy the game a bit more now. Leaning into a red damage build now. Finding it hard to get any thing over 17k weapon damage though, just getting unlucky on gear roles I think.

Has anyone tried the baby version of the raid? Like is there any decent drops or is it just the same craic that you would find in a heroic?

I've no interest in the baby raid, they totally misjudged the community's view imo, well misjudged my view anyway. You can't get the Eagle Bearer and the Aces and Eights GS, apparently.

It really is a feature of "live service games" they fix something with a patch and it breaks six other things. Remnant from the Ashes patched something last week and 100% broke the game for PS PROs. Battlefield has been renowned for it for years. If it didn't make me so sad it would be funny.

Rob2D wrote: »

And there's FAR too much RNG in this game. I never realised it until I came back and started building but my god it's awful. Such a scumbag design choice.

you really notice it when building. You'll get the brand chest you want, it'll have the right attributes particularly the one you want a high roll on, it'll have unbreakable you've been looking for and then it'll have a poxy red mod node that entirely destroys your build.
Combined with the fact that over 99% of the stuff you loot is immediately thrash it's totally frustrating. They do it to keep us playing but it's appalling.

my fire turret does fair damage but it's real selling point is crowd control.

sticker wrote: »

My daily project blueprints have stopped last week, with about 20 to go to complete. Have most exotics including eagle bearer. I'm done with it now. As mentioned previously, devs far too slow to sort RNG and offer the player base reasons to stick around.

Shame... it's a cracking game world.

Maybe it’s just one of those put it down for now and see what they do with it in the coming year. Might get a big update that promises reasons to play again.

Look how long it took Destiny 2 to sort itself out. The latest DLC is supposedly very good stuff.

Hopefully it takes the Division 2 devs a little less time though.

Jumped back into the Division 2 (Season pass has added to uplay plus on PC) today and done the two additional missions (the zoo and the island). Got to the final boss at the raid in the airport but got wiped with a PUG. Ive no idea what to do at the moment, all the weapons and items seem to be the same and the stats are confusing (its been a while since I played). What should I aim for??

gimli2112 wrote: »

Haven't been on in a few weeks but if you've just come back I'd look to make a skill build. Seekers and something else seems popular.

Skill builds are boring as hell. Fire off seekers, wait a few seconds and fire off more seekers. At least with gun builds you get to shoot stuff.

Yay, completed my first baby raid earlier. Was just trying to get some experience and happened into a group where we just went the whole way first try. Only hairy bit was when me and one other guy were the only ones left alive to beat Buddy & Lucy. Other than that it was plain sailing.

Looking forward to trying the real thing soon. Hopefully before TU6 makes my build worthless again.

I hated the loot system, there was limited builds and it threw a ton of garbage at you.


I think it's biggest crime was how it treated the community, The raid and the way they handled it was deplorable, people crying out for matchmaking and the devs knew better, when they finally capitulated they threw out a stripped down version that offered you no benefit in running and no-one wanted. The way they didn't care it was broken on consoles and it was.
Hey it's their game though and if they wanted people to play it a certain way that's their prerogative. People had the choice to go off and play something else and they did.


I enjoyed the game, overall thought it was great and will likely go back when they get their act together, like they did last time.

The division devs not only conceived it they implemented it as well. I see this more and more where things are introduced into games that no-one really wants.


The Map and UI in Borderlands 3 is abysmal.
Loading screens in Division 2 (console problem)
Having a big monster chase you through the police station in Resi 2 (this is more a personal peeve)
No radar in Modern Warfare


It's like they don't know what the people want.

You also see this in a lot of shooters. There's a gun that absolutely wrecks everything and you're left wondering did anyone actually test this. Then they nerf it into the ground.

Been playing this despite initial reservations. Have to say I've definitely gotten my moneys worth but getting to end game and I was looking forward to getting fancy loot only to discover that there's only 3 special gear sets and they're effectively pointless and you're better off just using what you had all along... The specialisations all seem..... bland as well.

Endgame means different things to different people but for me I want shiny things with shiny stats but instead you're just running around in what you've been using all along but hoping to get good RNG rolls on the stats.... It feels like playing WoW and find out purples and legendarys aren't as good as blues.

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Grinding for Merciless for ages now.

I've never seen one either.:(

I often feel, there's a certain arrogance about some developers/publishers who resolutely believe they know best and they don't need to listen to their communities, I feel it's particular relevant to the Division but there are worse cough cough Activision.
That's not to say devs don't know better, they often do but it's important to strike some sort of balance and understand what the people playing your game want.

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Was gonna get this but holding out for another month. Surprised to hear people are dissatisfied with endgame. Even more surprised that D2 didn't meet sales expectations as it seemed to be highly praised at launch. What happened?

Everyone will have a different opinion but for me:

The vast vast majority of the game play is effectively waist high walls, get into cover and just shoot, you don't particularly even need to change position. They might change the environs a bit but that's as cerebral as it gets. The raid at end game (and there's only one I think) changes this up with actual mechanics but there's just one raid..... Kenly college seems to offer a bit of thinking as well but it's not complex and is over quickly but effectively 95% of the game is no brainer stuff.

So, you play the entire game and then endgame comes along and end game is.... repeat to infinity all the stuff you've done before just with enemies that soak up more damage. Which I guess is fine but as I've mentioned a couple of posts back when you get to end game you find there's no special sparkly gear. The endgame gear sets are a bit crap and are outdone by the yellows. It's like getting to endgame in wow and finding out the blue trash mob gear is better than purples/legendaries. Also each item has quite a lot of potential attributes so you've to grind and grind and grind to get a good roll on all the things you want and after a little while of doing this you realise it's literally all for nothing. What's the point is grinding for the perfect yellow when you can't use it to win anything better and you're just drowning in sh*t loot as well cos everything just splurges it everywhere.

I can't comment on PvP, I haven't been bothered and here in Australia I've seen someone twice in all the times I've been in a dark zone and I've never once got a conflict match.

I guess if this was the Division 1 I'd say fair enough but they've been here before.

Oh and finally, to a much lesser extent I wasn't as fond of Washington. Maybe if I was American it would be cooler but New York with it massive skyscrapers and snowy landscapes was much cooler and recognisable to me imo. Apoart from the Whitehouse and the Lincoln memorial I wouldn't know a single landmark.

So I've returned to this to check out update 6. Some decent changes..

I've been trying to farm the pestilence in the dark zone and it's so bloody frustrating. I've had it twice today to have a rogue group pinch it.

My build is more PVE so I'm very unsuited to my combatants.

I love this game and the idea of the dark zone but its so frustrating to play

Anyone still playing this? Picked it up a few weeks ago and currently at world tier 2. Beginning to get really boring now...