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Digital ID's for everyone

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    And where does it explain the means or methid of immunity certification?
    Nowhere in the article, you say?


    Hmm, wonder how they'll manage to check whom out of 7bn has taken the vaccine, and on what date, and which release version, and validate the actual identity of any of these 7bn subjects for record keeping.


    Hold on, didn't Bill brief the very exact this problem (along with $millions of funding) to his own medi-tech team and MIT?
    Yes indeed.


    And what did they (MIT) suggest is the best of class solution to this small matter, you ask?
    Actually, something called the Quantum Dot Tattoo.

    Amazing when you search quantum dot tattoo you get two differing opinions

    On the science sites it's all about how this is a good thing and will be important in developing countries where data storage is not up to date.

    On the flip side you have the religious brigades who see biblical prophecies and satanic interference.

    Science has been good to me for quite a few decades so I think I will stick with them and leave the god botherers to shouting at the clouds.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And where does it explain the means or methid of immunity certification?
    Nowhere in the article, you say?


    Hmm, wonder how they'll manage to check whom out of 7bn has taken the vaccine, and on what date, and which release version, and validate the actual identity of any of these 7bn subjects for record keeping.


    Hold on, didn't Bill brief the very exact this problem (along with $millions of funding) to his own medi-tech team and MIT?
    Yes indeed.


    And what did they (MIT) suggest is the best of class solution to this small matter, you ask?
    Actually, something called the Quantum Dot Tattoo.

    You're incapable of completely quoting any of my posts, it's always snippets... You're also being a little dishonest about this having anything to do with id2020. The research was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation but not by ID2020 so it isn't being considered as an option for a digital id.

    In addition the entire MIT study focused on developing countries, that was the basis for the study. You haven't proven the necessity of an immunity cert that gets embedded on one's skin, it simply isn't necessary. On top of that you previously claimed they were aiming to go to production by 2030. I've found no proof of this. It's a proof of concept and they say as much so I'd say it's unlikely to even be utilised in the developing world in the next two years.

    Now you can quote me partially and address nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Ah the aul false much lolz lazy assumption (yet again in an act of information distortion) that this simple QDT (data mark/emboidment), is an actual chip or even processor.

    For the 10th time, this is not a 'microchip', comprende?

    n o t a m i c r o c h i p.

    .
    Yes I know. The distinction is just pedantry on your part and I didn't feel I needed to be overly accurate while mocking your illogical conspiracy theory.

    Quantum dot tattoos are not biometric, birth to death or persistent either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    On the science sites it's all about how this is a good thing and will be important in developing countries where data storage is not up to date.
    On the flip side you ....

    On the flip side, you have very serious privacy issues, the branding of people as what is in effect the mass barcoding of subject matters, and likely potential of additional uses towards digital wallets.

    It's certainly pushed as a 'good thing' by the folks that are pushing it, no question about that.

    When you consider the exact same (Gates) funded MIT team behind this, has already patented a similar or complientary technology, you have to question if Gates/Microsoft via id2020 (Gavi) has a potential huge money spinner: ma$$ global software licencing dream, and indeed future cloud based blockchain encrypted digital wallet platform.

    Take a gawk at the CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA patent from Microsoft (id2020 founding partner).
    Which actually refers to a similar QUANTUM DOT TATTOO's infrared scanable embodiment bio infrastructure as a verification sensor.

    Publication Number WO/2020/060606
    Publication Date 26.03.2020
    MICROSOFT TECHNOLOGY LICENSING, LLC [US]/[US]

    Looks like the QDT unique identifer (sensor) could easily become part of this 1984-esq in body currency mining system. A Digital ID verification, before the user's own kinetic energy (perhaps even blood gloucose) gets to the crunching, farming, collecting and storage of currency data.

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTDESCRIPTION

    Abstract (EN)
    Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.

    [0026] Sensor 140 may be configured to sense the body activity of user 145. As illustrated in FIG. 1, sensor 140 may be a separate component from user device 130 and be operably and/or communicatively connected to user device 130. Alternatively, sensor 140 may be included and integrated in user device 130. For example, user device 130 may be a wearable device having sensor 140 therein. The sensor 140 may transmit information/data to user device 130. Sensor 140 may include, for example, but not limited to, functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) scanners or sensors, electroencephalography (EEG) sensors, near infrared spectroscopy (NIRS) sensors, heart rate monitors, thermal sensors, optical sensors, radio frequency (RF) sensors, ultrasonic sensors, cameras, or any other sensor or scanner that can measure or sense body activity or scan human body. For instance, the fMRI may measure body activity by detecting changes associated with blood flow. The fMRI may use a magnetic field and radio waves to create detailed images of the body (e.g. blood flow in the brain to detect areas of activity).

    [0072] Any combination of one or more computer readable medium(s) may be utilized. The computer readable medium may be a computer readable signal medium or a computer readable storage medium. A computer readable storage medium may be, for example, but not limited to, an electronic, magnetic, optical, electromagnetic, infrared, or semiconductor system, apparatus, or device, or any suitable combination of the foregoing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    On the flip side, you have very serious privacy issues, the branding of people as what is in effect the mass barcoding of subject matters, and likely potential of additional uses towards digital wallets.

    It's certainly pushed as a 'good thing' by the folks that are pushing it, no question about that.

    When you consider the exact same (Gates) funded MIT team behind this, has already patented a similar or complientary technology, you have to question if Gates/Microsoft via id2020 (Gavi) has a potential huge money spinner: ma$$ global software licencing dream, and indeed future cloud based blockchain encrypted digital wallet platform.

    Take a gawk at the CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA patent from Microsoft (id2020 founding partner).
    Which actually refers to a similar QUANTUM DOT TATTOO's infrared scanable embodiment bio infrastructure as a verification sensor.

    Publication Number WO/2020/060606
    Publication Date 26.03.2020
    MICROSOFT TECHNOLOGY LICENSING, LLC [US]/[US]

    Looks like the QDT unique identifer (sensor) could easily become part of this 1984-esq in body currency mining system. A Digital ID verification, before the user's own kinetic energy (perhaps even blood gloucose) gets to the crunching, farming, collecting and storage of currency data.

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTDESCRIPTION

    Abstract (EN)
    Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.

    [0026] Sensor 140 may be configured to sense the body activity of user 145. As illustrated in FIG. 1, sensor 140 may be a separate component from user device 130 and be operably and/or communicatively connected to user device 130. Alternatively, sensor 140 may be included and integrated in user device 130. For example, user device 130 may be a wearable device having sensor 140 therein. The sensor 140 may transmit information/data to user device 130. Sensor 140 may include, for example, but not limited to, functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) scanners or sensors, electroencephalography (EEG) sensors, near infrared spectroscopy (NIRS) sensors, heart rate monitors, thermal sensors, optical sensors, radio frequency (RF) sensors, ultrasonic sensors, cameras, or any other sensor or scanner that can measure or sense body activity or scan human body. For instance, the fMRI may measure body activity by detecting changes associated with blood flow. The fMRI may use a magnetic field and radio waves to create detailed images of the body (e.g. blood flow in the brain to detect areas of activity).

    [0072] Any combination of one or more computer readable medium(s) may be utilized. The computer readable medium may be a computer readable signal medium or a computer readable storage medium. A computer readable storage medium may be, for example, but not limited to, an electronic, magnetic, optical, electromagnetic, infrared, or semiconductor system, apparatus, or device, or any suitable combination of the foregoing.

    So many "could be, maybe, might" etc but zero evidence.
    Aliens COULD land here tomorrow, if they did they MIGHT tag us all with chips, and MAYBE use us as slaves to mine minerals for them.

    It's as plausible as your claims.


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    A quantum dot isn't designed for processing data though. Have you actually read the research paper? You're attributing uses for it that simply aren't realistic... On top of that you've extended it to being accessible at range which it isn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    A quantum dot {tattoo} isn't designed for processing data though.
    And no claim was made to this effect (QDT)

    Yet again I have to explain (for the xxxth time), that a unique digital identifier is just that.
    Have you not read this before? Read again, slowly this time:

    {{{ It . is . not . a . processor , nor . is . the . QDT . a . microchip }}}

    However, when Microsoft (id2020.org partner) choose to roll out production of their very latest additional, new, seperate, digital wallet type patent (this one may have actual processing and mult-transmission capabilities), the other previous vaccine pre-installed QDT, can act as a user based UnID in itself.

    Thus their creepy body kinetic can help validate itself (infrared is one of the many technologies), before additiional internal biometrics can be used for additional pre-cloud server verification.
    The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.
    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606&tab=PCTDOCUMENTS

    Filed on June 20, 2019 (when founder Gates, and actively sat on the Board of Directors). He was also advisor to the new CEO Satya Nadella on technology areas including productivity, health software and artificial intelligence, and he will continue to do so.
    “Microsoft will always be an important part of my life’s work and I will continue to be engaged with Satya and the technical leadership to help shape the vision and achieve the company’s ambitious goals".

    But it only recently published this as under patent WO2020060606 March this year, the week after Gates (on paper) resigned to focus on vaccines, and digital immunity certificates thereof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭rtron




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    rtron wrote: »

    This link^ refers to Musk's Neuralink (brain tech interfacing & implants). Not really anything to do with DigitalIDs (but could still serve as an identifier, with wireless protocols, and of course a likely future uplink into this Starlink, {for any future cloud-based AI interfacing}).

    This is still years, or perhaps decade from any practical use.

    Where as the folks in Sweden (3k+) have already inserted RFIDs in their hands as identifers, but this now considered clumsy, bulky old tech, and unlikely to continue much further.

    Musk is a curious chap. On one had has many worthwhile projects from clean energy to interplanetary exploration.
    However Starlink and neural networking point directly towards H+ (transhumanism).

    The current protocol that suits best is Gate's QDT (QuantumDotTattoo), which uses nano-tech to establish a digtially readable identifer, without any surgery.
    Totally chip/processor free, and more or less both: unpowered and passive.

    QDT is also, when combined with vaccines (as is it's sole purpose), the only practical way to issue 'immunity certifications' to 8bn folks.
    This delivery method won't even require refrigeration or proper needles.

    The simple plaster on skin delivery method is the easiest, and the only method to fulfil dual requirements (vaccine, cert and thus UnID {identifer} of person).

    With the expectation for yearly or mult-stage vaccines, it need not even appear for the initial 2021 round1.
    Instead 2022 onwards (covid mutations will always occur), if it takes that long for full manufacture scale up.

    The jet injector to dermis method is another method, that could allow mass rollout, but does fail on the individual id/certification requirement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    .
    The current protocol that suits best is Gate's QDT (QuantumDotTattoo), which uses nano-tech to establish a digtially readable identifer, without any surgery.
    Totally chip/processor free, and more or less both: unpowered and passive.
    Still claiming this when you've shown that it's not true....

    Weird


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Still no indication that accumulator's dot will have anything to do with the covid vaccine. Almost as if it was nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Still no denial from Gates, that when he handed his pet MIT team millions for the 'best of class' innovative 'Digital Immunity Certificate', they in turn produced the QuantumDotTattoo as the very best solution to this very specifc brief.

    It's actually a vaccine and digi-cert combined in one, also requires no refrigeration, nor any sharps. Clever stuff from the chaps at MIT.

    Anyone in denial of this simple finding as per the PressRelease, is living in a world of technological ingorance, and thus self-derived nonsense (see above).

    Of course we won't see this delivered for any small scale P3/4 using EA.
    It's intention was initially for the developing world's 1.5bn or so (requiring full production scale-up).

    With multi-dosing (likely annual) of any (mutating/evolving) Covid19 vaccine, you might not see this 1/2/3bn (or the full 8bn) delivery method until 2021, 2022, 2023 onwards (2030 is the overall id2020.org target date, remember).

    While other innovators have developed other 'ease of storage' delivery mechanisms such as the jet injector (again, most folks here would not aware of this), this does no fulfil the great persistant issue of quick, easy and scanable certification history and unique medical records, including UnIDs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Still no denial from Gates, that when he handed his pet MIT team millions for the 'best of class' innovative 'Digital Immunity Certificate', they in turn produced the QuantumDotTattoo as the very best solution to this very specifc brief.

    I didnt realise that Bill was reading this thread. Hey Bill, my last payment is late.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Did Billy Gates brief the MIT team with a specific brief? (the answer is: Yes)
    Did they propose the 'Quantum Dot Tatoo' as the best solution? (the answer is: Yes)

    A very simple process of events really.
    Not sure why some can't process basic logic of events, weird infact.

    Still, nevermind all these awkward facts, have some misdirection and lols instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Did Billy Gates brief the MIT team with a specific brief? (the answer is: Yes)
    Did they propose the 'Quantum Dot Tatoo' as the best solution? (the answer is: Yes)

    A very simple process of events really.
    Not sure why some can't process basic logic of events, weird infact.

    Still, nevermind all these awkward facts, have some misdirection and lols instead.

    so what if both of those things are true?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    so what if both of those things are true?
    Well some here seem to think the QDT is 'woo-woo-sci-fi'.
    When it's actually very 'simple proven sci-fact'.

    Likely only be considered for used for the final vaccine candidate (there are currently 300, and all still in trials).

    Also, full manufacture scale up of a new innovation, also won't be an overnight event, but with yearly vaccines on the horizon, for 8bn, there is no rush, nor no lack of deployment opportunity.

    This small scale lab based nano tech is also well over 5yrs old. The innovators at MIT expressed the desire for it to store greater amounts of 'data' (pattern array upgrades, customisations etc) in any future iterations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Well some here seem to think the QDT is 'woo-woo-sci-fi'.
    When it's actually very 'simple proven sci-fact'.

    Likely only be considered for used for the final vaccine candidate (there are currently 300, and all still in trials).

    Also, full manufacture scale up of a new innovation, also won't be an overnight event, but with yearly vaccines on the horizon, for 8bn, there is no rush, nor no lack of deployment opportunity.

    This small scale lab based nano tech is also well over 5yrs old. The innovators at MIT expressed the desire for it to store greater amounts of 'data' (pattern array upgrades, customisations etc) in any future iterations.

    has anybody said that QDT is woo science? or rather is it that they have said your extrapolation of it is woo?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Is this the start of it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Is this the start of it?


    given the video doesnt work it is entirely possible it is the start of "it". now if only somebody could explain what "it" is.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    given the video doesnt work it is entirely possible it is the start of "it". now if only somebody could explain what "it" is.

    "It" being the erosion of our freedoms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    has anybody said that QDT is woo science? or rather is it that they have said your extrapolation of it is woo?
    Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

    The expression of the MIT was also for their next (likey release) version to store far more data than currently. This scanable data can of course take any form. From a simple 12/16/128 digit UNiDs, but a whole array of query strings.

    Even in it's very, very, most basic of forms it can act as a boolean operator, to allow (or deny) someone instant access to: bus/building/workplace/cafe/welfare/port/college etc, as manditory use of a vaccine starts to occur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

    The expression of the MIT was also for their next (likey release) version to store far more data than currently. This scanable data can of course take any form. From a simple 12/16/128 digit UNiDs, but a whole array of query strings.

    Even in it's very, very, most basic of forms it can act as a boolean operator, to allow (or deny) someone instant access to: bus/building/workplace/cafe/welfare/port/college etc, as manditory use of a vaccine starts to occur.

    and there we go with the woo. especially so since your whole reason for thinking that is based on biblical nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    and there we go with the woo. especially so since your whole reason for thinking that is based on biblical nonsense.
    Eh? Only you have mentioned the bible.

    This is a very simple question, that you have failed to answer (using distraction).
    Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Eh? Only you have mentioned the bible.

    This is a very simple question, that you have failed to answer (using distraction).

    so you have never mentioned the bible in relation to this topic? you dont believe in biblical predictions?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Eh? Only you have mentioned the bible.

    This is a very simple question, that you have failed to answer (using distraction).

    No, you've previously discussed the bible and this... It was moved from the christianity forum to conspiracies, remember?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    so you have never mentioned the bible in relation to this topic? you dont believe in biblical predictions?
    As an interesting observation only, also to stimulate the angry athiests here (90% on these threads) into some original thought consideration, ouside of their own pope (dawkins).

    It's likely anyone with a greater interest would actually welcome such an event as it would indicate fulfilment.
    They would actually have zero concern of this development.

    I however simply urge caution, in the same way folks were barcoded with readable bar code tattoos back in 40's Germany.

    Btw, you still refuse to answer the question:
    Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

    And, before you divert again, bear in mind the actual Patents for this innovation do refer to it as an 'embodiment' and this is why I used that specific term here, to reflect the lodged product's patent (Quantum Dot Tattoo) termonology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    As an interesting observation only, also to stimulate the angry athiests here (90% on these threads) into some original thought consideration, ouside of their own pope (dawkins).

    It's likely anyone with a greater interest would actually welcome such an event as it would indicate fulfilment.
    They would actually have zero concern of this development.

    I however simply urge caution, in the same way folks were barcoded with readable bar code tattoos back in 40's Germany.

    Btw, you still refuse to answer the question:


    And, before you divert again, bear in mind the actual Patents for this innovation do refer to it as an 'embodiment' and this is why I used that specific term here, to reflect the lodged product's patent (Quantum Dot Tattoo) termonology.

    a QDT is a way to place a piece of data under the skin in a non-permanent way. nothing more. anything after you have invented yourself to fulfill a biblical prophecy. and it is more than an interesting observation. it is the basis for your obsession.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    MIT's (via Gates) patent for QDT:
    https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en

    As folks here are so keen on bible stuff, this other Gate's related (Microsoft, pre departure) patent may be more relevant reading for them, instead of the QDT:
    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    a QDT is a way to place a piece of data under the skin in a non-permanent way. nothing more. anything after you have invented yourself to fulfill a biblical prophecy. and it is more than an interesting observation. it is the basis for your obsession.

    Again, you haven't said Y/N to this question (as per it's own patent):
    Is the QDT a scanable physical mark (embodiment), a digital immunity certificate (identifier), with the intention to store an individuals unique medical/vaccination history, or is it not?

    Can only deduce you refuse to address it, without resorting to false distractions.
    Fair enough that's your privilege, and could care less. Time of lunch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Again, you haven't said Y/N to this question (as per it's own patent):
    Do you believe that the quantum dot tatoo the mark of the beast as predicted in the bible?
    Y/N?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    See notgmail hasn't answered a simple question^, ah well.

    For those associating the QDT directly as the NOTB, that's a Negative (in it's current form).
    It is however, an important precourser, and tool for:

    i) An actual patented seperate embodiment.
    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606 this one is precisely for personal crypto monetary transactions (better match for NOTB type scenarios). This enhanced embodiment could well could use the QDT as an infrared spectroscopy (NIRS) sensor measurement, along with other metrics of unique measurements.
    QDT thus a complementary digital identifier for WO2020060606.

    ii) For a global universal DigitalID programe (via id2020.org). To establish the constant/persistant/static UnID chain pair-part, which then combined with any of 17 various biometrics (or indeed all). The pair then processed using Azure cloud blockchain. Not just as a monetary transaction, but as universal ID... for everything.
    Any large scale use, will avail of the latest iteration, as McHughs team are aiming to enhance data storage of this mark.

    Of course both of these are some years away, with an initial catchement target of 1.5bn or so, pre-2030.
    Certain developing countries, will also spearhead any use of fully Digital Identifers of Persons.

    In the meantime QDT in the next year or two onwards, can absolutely function, where used, as a digi-immune-cert (that's it's only purpose currently).
    Under any manditory type conditions, this embodiment can establish 'access' (or not) to opportunities, freedoms, public and private sector services.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    See notgmail hasn't answered a simple question^, ah well.

    For those associating the QDT directly as the NOTB, that's a Negative (in it's current form).
    It is however, an important precourser, and tool for:

    i) An actual patented seperate embodiment.
    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606 this one is precisely for personal crypto monetary transactions (better match for NOTB type scenarios). This enhanced embodiment could well could use the QDT as an infrared spectroscopy (NIRS) sensor measurement, along with other metrics of unique measurements.
    QDT thus a complementary digital identifier for WO2020060606.

    ii) For a global universal DigitalID programe (via id2020.org). To establish the constant/persistant/static UnID chain pair-part, which then combined with any of 17 various biometrics (or indeed all). The pair then processed using Azure cloud blockchain. Not just as a monetary transaction, but as universal ID... for everything.
    Any large scale use, will avail of the latest iteration, as McHughs team are aiming to enhance data storage of this mark.

    Of course both of these are some years away, with an initial catchement target of 1.5bn or so, pre-2030.
    Certain developing countries, will also spearhead any use of fully Digital Identifers of Persons.

    In the meantime QDT in the next year or two onwards, can absolutely function, where used, as a digi-immune-cert (that's it's only purpose currently).
    Under any manditory type conditions, this embodiment can establish 'access' (or not) to opportunities, freedoms, public and private sector services.

    and back around to the start of the circle we go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    ii) For a global universal DigitalID programe (via id2020.org). To establish the constant/persistant/static UnID chain pair-part, which then combined with any of 17 various biometrics (or indeed all).
    But quantum dot tattoos still aren't persistant, birth to death or biometric.
    You keep lying about this.

    The rest of your word salad is all based on a bizarre fringe religious belief of yours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    QDT's (v1) have been proven persistant (without any fade) for 5yrs min, by the MIT Team, under direct and constant, UV exposure.
    QDT's if choosen as final/ultimate use of immunity certification (their purpose), and bearing in mind, this will likely be a yearly cycle vaccine (covid mutation).

    ...this indicates surperb levels of persistance indeed. There are also indications of delivery intent (establishing DigitalIDs) at point of birth, and an enhancement of data storage capability of the QDT

    QDT's are complientary, to the concept of validation of monetary transactions, as a form of identity (scanable unique identifier of the person).
    However DigitalIDs (via id2020.org) already have functioning digital wallets within their pilot DigitalID schemes already, for the purchase of goods, and access of services.

    The organisation many have not heard of (GAVI) are direct and founding partners (of ID2020.org), along with Microsoft etc.
    ID2020 aim to use point of vaccine delivery as a method of creating a DigitalID. Boris handed them £1bn+ last month, Ireland circa €115m.

    ID2020 manifesto is simply to create DigitalIDs, for everyone on the planet.
    Gates/GAVI (partners) manifesto, is to give everyone on the planet the COVID vaccine (likely yearly).
    Combining the two ambition, of these two partners would make sense.

    Gates/MIT additional/seperate patent: WO2020060606, is a step further down the line, using the body itself for blockchain cryptocurrency encryption.

    It's really a very simple enough concept for anyone with a bit of an education on these matters, awareness of technologies etc.
    For anyone else (see above), they'll likely dismiss it off hand, fail to process the science, and then attempt to reference skygods again and again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    QDT's (v1) have been proven persistant (without any fade) for 5yrs min, by the MIT Team, under direct and constant, UV exposure.
    5 years isn't persistent or life long.
    It isn't biometric either.

    We've been over this and more of your word salad isn't going to change reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    5 years isn't persistent..

    QDT's (v1) have been proven persistant (without any fade) for 5yrs min (the actual total persistance level isn't know), by the MIT Team, under direct and constant, UV exposure.
    QDT's if choosen as final/ultimate use of immunity certification (their purpose), and bearing in mind, this will likely be a yearly cycle vaccine (covid mutation).

    ...this indicates surperb levels of persistance indeed.
    There are also indications of delivery intent (establishing DigitalIDs) at point of birth, and an enhancement of data storage capability of the QDT

    QDT's are complientary, to the concept of validation of monetary transactions, as a form of identity (scanable unique identifier of the person).
    However DigitalIDs (via id2020.org) already have functioning digital wallets within their pilot DigitalID schemes already, for the purchase of goods, and access of services.

    The organisation many have not heard of (GAVI) are direct and founding partners (of ID2020.org), along with Microsoft etc.
    ID2020 aim to use point of vaccine delivery as a method of creating a DigitalID. Boris handed them £1bn+ last month, Ireland circa €115m.

    ID2020 manifesto is simply to create DigitalIDs, for everyone on the planet.
    Gates/GAVI (partners) manifesto, is to give everyone on the planet the COVID vaccine (likely yearly).
    Combining the two ambition, of these two partners would make sense.

    Gates/MIT additional/seperate patent: WO2020060606, is a step further down the line, using the body itself for blockchain cryptocurrency encryption.

    It's really a very simple enough concept for anyone with a bit of an education on these matters, awareness of technologies etc.
    For anyone else (see above), they'll likely dismiss it off hand, fail to process the science, and then attempt to reference skygods again and again.

    n.b. for those claiming QDT isn't biometric, the QDT can in itself store all (x17) biometric values, along with digitisaiton of all paper/card data.

    It's simply a bit like claiming that a master password service, isn't itself a password. Of course it isn't, it's a 'service and vehicle' to contain all passwords within that service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    U]for 5yrs min (the actual total persistance level isn't know)
    And what happens after 5 years?
    They fade.
    So they aren't persistent.

    Also, humans live upwards of 80 years.
    80 years is a longer period of time than 5 years.
    So they aren't life long.

    They aren't biometric because that's not what the word means.
    and then attempt to reference skygods again and again.
    Again, the only one who references skygods is you.

    You also base you conspiracy theory on a religious belief in the mark of the beast.
    If you don't like people bringing that up, simply stop being dishonest and evasive about it and address it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    And what happens after 5 years?
    And how often would a (yearly) covid vaccine (deliverd as a QDT combo) be used?
    Bear in mind:

    i) This 5yr was the very first version of a solution proposal to Gates, MuHugh said they aim to increae duration and data storage capabilities.
    ii) This QDT would also be 'perfect for all and every vaccine delivered' in the future. It's a simple plaster on skin delivery, perfect for storage and distribution.

    Anyhow other things to do now, suggest folks read up on facts, before flippant comments.
    There is plenty of reading material on id2020.org, and on the two product patents (links above/previous pages).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And how often would a (yearly) covid vaccine (deliverd as a QDT combo) be used?
    Bear in mind:

    i) This 5yr was the very first version of a solution proposal to Gates, MuHugh said they aim to increae duration and data storage capabilities.
    ii) This QDT would also be 'perfect for all and every vaccine delivered' in the future. It's a simple plaster on skin delivery, perfect for storage and distribution.

    Anyhow other things to do now, suggest folks read up on facts, before flippant comments.
    There is plenty of reading material on id2020.org, and on the two product patents (links above/previous pages).
    Yup. More dishonest word salad and paranoid, delusional speculation.

    Replacing something repeatedly does not make it persistent or life long. That's not what either of those terms mean.

    And notice again how you avoid discussing the religious basis of your conspiracy theory.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yup. More dishonest word salad ...
    Yup, if you can't process information of a technical nature (even when repeated for you), fine, just say so, instead of burping up your own word salad.
    King Mob wrote: »
    And notice again how you avoid discussing the religious basis of your conspiracy theory.
    And notice again how you only you inject skygods and religion into every one of your posts.

    Whilst 'that's all very interesting', (and predicitable from an angry athiest) it's also a clear diversion (technique) of the simple clear facts as presented, and which you still fail to process.

    Meanwhile, slight correction on the Irish GAVI money, only €18m from Ireland at the recent global summit in May (Boris offered £1bn+). Gavi needs at least US$ 7.4 billion for the 2021-25 immunisation systems program. Gavi are also the founders and partners of id2020.org (the new global Digital ID program).

    Likely it would make sense to create a DigitalID system, at the same time as rolling out immunisation systems, as both are matching, complimentary and primary objectives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Yup, if you can't process information of a technical nature (even when repeated for you), fine, just say so, instead of burping up your own word salad..
    Lol. Right. Technical. That's the reason.
    And notice again how you only you inject skygods and religion into every one of your posts.

    .
    But I've never mentioned "skygods". That's your odd term you keep using for some reason.
    I keep pointing out that your conspiracy theory is based on a fringe religious belief, because it is.

    Again if it isn't all you have to do is state that you don't believe in the biblical prophecy.
    But you won't address it either way.
    This is because you're a very dishonest person and you are being evasive about your position since you know people would rightly dismiss you out of hand if you were open and honest about it.

    I don't understand why you are continuing to do this when everyone can see through your evasiveness and you've already lost all credibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    It's likely best to simply ignore posters who have a record of over 8,000 posts mostly all in CT alone (every one of a denial nature), across over a decade.

    We've seen religion (and perhaps suggestion of a strong dislike towards) getting elbowed into nearly ever post here.
    When the only primary reference point suggested here is (again): 'id2020.org', and this in regards to the topic at hand: 'Digital IDs for everyone'.
    Anything else is simply secondary, or of complimentary interest, and thus a 'purposeful distractive, diversionary technique'.

    It's a paradoxical situation, e.g. someone likely coming from an economic redundant, arts education background, (philosophy or similar), now reject 100% of all theoritical philosophical matter, across the CT forum. Even cases with clear linear scientific and technical evidence at hand. It might suggest hard set Dawkinism onset (who himself, even gives skygods a 1-7% likelyhood).

    The proposal here is relly very simple to follow.
    It can be simplified even further, for the non scientific or non technical, non fact natured:

    1. ID2020.org's clear mission statement for everyone on the planet to have a new unique Digital ID (pre-2030)
    2. ID2020.org is founded and funded by GAVI (the vaccine people), Gates/MS (the vaccine man) and other with immense wealth or influence (Rockerfellas)
    3. ID2020.org have various pilot schemes to discover the best of class methods of establishing DigitalIDs, with a preference to combine with vaccine delivery.
    4. ID2020.org was founded by a chap that is now involved with MIT (the world's #1 Uni, and with an excellent nano-medi-tech team).
    5. Gates funded MIT to produce a solution to the issue of DigitalImmunityCertification at point of vaccine.
    6. MIT's current single 'best of class' solution was put forward as the QDT (QuantumDotTattoo) a vaccine and digital identifer combination.
    7. QDT is a scanable digitally read embodiment, that is applied along with a vaccine. It's a data storage mark (nano scale tattoo pattern) upon the person.
    8. QDT in any future iteration, will (as McHugh states) have both increased data storage capability and embodiment persistance.

    Of course the essential/key workers in the West won't see the QDT when they get the first manditory (likely yearly) vaccine in the coming months.
    Instead it will be used in the developing world to begin with, and only available when the best P3/4 clinical trial indicates the single best model to combine with.

    It will likely only appear gradually, across the coming years (no great rush towards 2030), due to factors of manufacturing scale up (bn's).
    In the meantime until better DigitalID embodiment is be found, MIT's QDT is the best there is.


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    Resorting to personal attacks and attempting to attack educational backgrounds. Meanwhile you continue to go on tangents while virtually ignoring any criticisms of the conspiracy you're espousing. As pointed out multiple times, this is not persistent. There's also never been an indication that it's being considered for anything more than as a basic vaccine record.

    On top of that, you were pushing ages ago that it would be going to everyone as a mandatory part of a covid vaccine. Now you've adapted the timeline because there hasn't been any indication it will. You've set a year of 2030 which gives leeway to keep making the claim for years to come. Even if it eventually hits the developing world which is its target audience, it's still simply acting as an indicator that a person has been vaccinated. Nothing more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    It's likely best to simply ignore posters who have a record of over 8,000 posts mostly all in CT alone (every one of a denial nature), across over a decade.

    We've seen religion (and perhaps suggestion of a strong dislike towards) getting elbowed into nearly ever post here.
    But why run away from the point?
    Why not just shut me up and state clearly that you don't believe in the biblical prophesy?

    All the people who read your posts aren't being fooled by your tactics.
    So why are you persisting in them?
    It's a paradoxical situation, e.g. someone likely coming from an economic redundant, arts education background, (philosophy or similar), now reject 100% of all theoritical philosophical matter,
    This is a very specific statement, care to explain it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Resorting to personal attacks and attempting to attack educational backgrounds.
    Oh fun fact.
    Some conspiracy theorist here tracked down my real name and it's been passed around by a few of them in PMs.

    I suspect that the specific mention of "arts education background, (philosophy or similar)" is meant to be a thinly veiled allusion to Accumlator having been given this information too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    There is an incorrect assumption above.
    A flase (slightly paranoid) allegation has been suggested by KM.
    To clarify, no one has posted me any such message(s).

    By clicking on KM anyone (in public domain) can clearly see 8k posts in CT across a decade (statistics link).
    A huge sway of posts also have the keyword 'philosophy' at some university.
    It's thus a very basic and elementary logical deduction to explain a posting trend.

    This simple public doman click, explains this suggested 'conspiracy'

    Likewise most of my posts are across in the lucky bets threads, feel free to have a quick gawk.
    I'm a bit of a superforecaster, lol. Just waiting to win the aul Euromillions, any day now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    There is an incorrect assumption above.
    A flase (slightly paranoid) allegation has been suggested by KM.
    To clarify, no one has posted me any such message(s).

    By clicking on KM anyone (in public domain) can clearly see 8k posts in CT across a decade (statistics link).
    A huge sway of posts also have the keyword 'philosophy' at some university.
    It's thus a very basic and elementary logical deduction to explain a posting trend.

    This simple public doman click, explains this suggested 'conspiracy'

    Likewise most of my posts are across in the lucky bets threads, feel free to have a quick gawk.
    I'm a bit of a superforecaster, lol. Just waiting to win the aul Euromillions, any day now!
    Ah ok. It was just some basic stalking, followed by personal attacks based on education.
    That's not much better you realise.

    You've also dodged the question again.

    As I've pointed out, no one is buy this tactic of yours.
    Everyone reading this thread realises that your conspiracy theory is based on your religious beliefs.
    Why be evasive about it? What do you think this gains you?
    It's only served to make you look ridiculous and dishonest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    You've also dodged the question again.

    As I've pointed out, no one is buy this tactic of yours.
    Everyone reading this thread realises that your conspiracy theory is based on your religious beliefs.
    Why be evasive about it? What do you think this gains you?
    It's only served to make you look ridiculous and dishonest.

    That (old) question has been answered here many times already.
    Answer. It's 'interesting' that is all
    Also... it may, (or may not) have some secondary relevance to the topic, who knows for sure.

    This tactic of topic diversion has again been exposed.

    To repeat: the actual 'primary linear evidence' (back to the actual topic) has been outlined as clear as possible:

    1. ID2020.org's clear mission statement for everyone on the planet to have a new unique Digital ID (pre-2030)
    2. ID2020.org is founded and funded by GAVI (the vaccine people), Gates/MS (the vaccine man) and other with immense wealth or influence (Rockerfellas)
    3. ID2020.org have various pilot schemes to discover the best of class methods of establishing DigitalIDs, with a preference to combine with vaccine delivery.
    4. ID2020.org was founded by a chap that is now involved with MIT (the world's #1 Uni, and with an excellent nano-medi-tech team).
    5. Gates funded MIT to produce a solution to the issue of DigitalImmunityCertification at point of vaccine.
    6. MIT's current single 'best of class' solution was put forward as the QDT (QuantumDotTattoo) a vaccine and digital identifer combination.
    7. QDT is a scanable digitally read embodiment, that is applied along with a vaccine. It's a data storage mark (nano scale tattoo pattern) upon the person.
    8. QDT in any future iteration, will (as McHugh states) have both increased data storage capability and embodiment persistance.

    To address the 2030 issue, this is the date set out be id2020.org themselves (not me). It's linked also to some UN backed charter with a timeline also for 2030, for implimentation.

    However the timely arrival of covid19 may well accelerate this date however. Bear in mind GAVI (of both id2020 {DigitalID} and global vaccine programmes) have been handed $£€bn's, all just within the last month alone.

    Anyway folks things to do, the CT forum sure is busy these days is it not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    That (old) question has been answered here many times.
    Answer. It's 'interesting' that is all

    But that's not an answer.

    The question is if you believe it or not.
    You keep dodging that.
    We all know why. You do believe, you're just not being honest because you know that will turn rational people away from your conspiracy claims.
    You're not tricking anyone.

    Why do you think it is fooling people?


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