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Storm Deirdre - Saturday 15 December 2018

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  • #552
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    That chart is always great to see. Any chance Kinsale Energy could be added to it? That always generates ridiculous gusts and would be a useful extra to have, even though we can't take it seriously from a landfall point of view.


  • #553
    MJohnston
    Registered Users Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    This table is getting too long :P but Storm Deirdre has been added with gusts from synop reports.

    Selfishly I'd love it if you could colour code the numbers by the MÉ warning category that they fit into!


  • #554
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,559 ✭✭✭weisses


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    This table is getting too long :P but Storm Deirdre has been added with gusts from synop reports.

    Just shows what a beast Darwin was... Will never forget that day


  • #555
    sryanbruen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    MJohnston wrote: »
    Selfishly I'd love it if you could colour code the numbers by the MÉ warning category that they fit into!

    See edited post, I colour coded the cells rather than the numbers because it was hard to see the text coloured yellow.

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  • #556
    Sycamore Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    This table is getting too long :P but Storm Deirdre has been added with gusts from synop reports.

    A7ZJWWe.jpg

    Brilliant table Sryanbruen!


  • #557
    sdanseo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Interesting that Deirdre was the only storm where the appropriate warning wind speed wasn't reached at any official station.

    Not a criticism of MÉ. The warned based on the guidance. And of course only four counties ended up under orange warning, one of which has no synoptic station (Waterford) and Cork reached gusts 2km/h off the threshold in two places.

    But maybe an indication of the storm being so dynamic and something they could feed into future decisions in similar scenarios?


  • #558
    m17
    Registered Users Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭m17


    Claremorris co mayo 15/12/18
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  • #559
    EmptyTree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭EmptyTree


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Can only imagine what it would be like to be at sea and see something like this coming towards you


  • #560
    sumtings
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    Hyv1q90.png

    Clearly storms are getting weaker and it's better to live in a place with a name starting with a letter nearer the start of the alphabet than the end.


  • #561
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    sumtings wrote: »

    Clearly storms are getting weaker and it's better to live in a place with a name starting with a letter nearer the start of the alphabet than the end.

    Why would you compare the 2 largest storms of the last decade to the storms of 2018? That doesn't prove anything!

    Like getting a picture of a massive car and a tiny airplane and saying "clearly cars are bigger than airplanes".


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  • #562
    sumtings
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Why would you compare the 2 largest storms of the last decade to the storms of 2018? That doesn't prove anything!

    Like getting a picture of a massive car and a tiny airplane and saying "clearly cars are bigger than airplanes".


    I agree with you, why would I have brought the alphabet into it!


  • #563
    sryanbruen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Nice analysis there sumtings, honestly prefer yours over mine. The problem with such a claim as windstorms are getting weaker is the small sample space you have. You would need to look back at a lot more years.

    If you'd like any data of previous storms, years or stations, let me know and I'll be able to reanalyse it and send it to you.

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  • #564
    sumtings
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Nice analysis there sumtings, honestly prefer yours over mine. The problem with such a claim as windstorms are getting weaker is the small sample space you have. You would need to look back at a lot more years.

    If you'd like any data of previous storms, years or stations, let me know and I'll be able to reanalyse it and send it to you.

    Thanks syranbruen, though it was a joke piece of analysis!


  • #565
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    sumtings wrote: »
    Thanks syranbruen, though it was a joke piece of analysis!


    You could also argue that the town called "Max" is the worst place to live :eek:


  • #566
    Reati
    Registered Users Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭Reati


    EmptyTree wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Can only imagine what it would be like to be at sea and see something like this coming towards you

    After a few of them it's not so bad. You can watch videos of it online. You generally hope it'll hit at night and you can sleep through it. Otherwise it's baked potato for meals time!


  • #567
    The Late Late Show
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    sumtings wrote: »
    Hyv1q90.png

    Clearly storms are getting weaker and it's better to live in a place with a name starting with a letter nearer the start of the alphabet than the end.

    Ophelia and Darwin were by far the worst 2 of these. Also a Christmas Eve 1997 one and St Stephen's Day 1998 one were also up there to complete the 4 worst storms of the last 25 years or so.


  • #568
    sumtings
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Nice analysis there sumtings, honestly prefer yours over mine. The problem with such a claim as windstorms are getting weaker is the small sample space you have. You would need to look back at a lot more years.

    If you'd like any data of previous storms, years or stations, let me know and I'll be able to reanalyse it and send it to you.

    Hi Syranbreun,

    you know what would be interesting to see, in your data it looks like Mullingar is the most benign place to live from the point of view of storms/wind speed, I wonder if more data points backs that up.


  • #569
    sryanbruen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    sumtings wrote: »
    Thanks syranbruen, though it was a joke piece of analysis!

    Well for a joke analysis, certainly looks more professional than my amateurish work.
    sumtings wrote: »
    Hi Syranbreun,

    you know what would be interesting to see, in your data it looks like Mullingar is the most benign place to live from the point of view of storms/wind speed, I wonder if more data points backs that up.

    I'll see what I can do. I think we can look at this from two different points of view. We can compare past major windstorms i.e. the worst of the lot, like January 1976, February 1988, January 1991, December 1997, December 1998 etc and see the max gusts of Mullingar in each of these storms with other Irish stations although might need some help in deciding these storms as I could miss some. We could also compare 1981-2010 averages (and maybe 1961-90 too if I can).

    I think part of the reason why Mullingar seems so benign in terms of maximum wind gusts is due to how far inland the station is and away from exposed coasts.

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  • #570
    sumtings
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Well for a joke analysis, certainly looks more professional than my amateurish work.



    I'll see what I can do. I think we can look at this from two different points of view. We can compare past major windstorms i.e. the worst of the lot, like January 1976, February 1988, January 1991, December 1997, December 1998 etc and see the max gusts of Mullingar in each of these storms with other Irish stations although might need some help in deciding these storms as I could miss some. We could also compare 1981-2010 averages (and maybe 1961-90 too if I can).

    I think part of the reason why Mullingar seems so benign in terms of maximum wind gusts is due to how far inland the station is and away from exposed coasts.

    The logic would make sense for it to be the least affected location wise.

    The decider to include the storm in the data set could be if there are at least 3 stations greater than 90kph or at least one greater than 100kph for gusts?

    For general weather averages for wind speed, the 1981 to 2010 averages would be fine I's say.

    Comparing the two would be interesting.


    Or maybe it could be if conditions at X stations met the criteria for yellow/orange?


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  • #571
    goat2
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    This storm seems to be more robust and distructive than storm Deirdre,
    I did not bother taking out the torch the night of storm Deirdre,
    but tonight I have got in pocket to be ready for black out


  • #572
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    goat2 wrote: »
    This storm seems to be more robust and distructive than storm Deirdre,
    I did not bother taking out the torch the night of storm Deirdre,
    but tonight I have got in pocket to be ready for black out

    As mentioned on the other (current) thread
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108910010#post108910010

    For anyone directly near the E coasts, going to be fairly nasty, and although short-lived will affect the main urban areas & the M1 around early rush hour 0600-0800, expect an overturned truck or two.


  • #573
    highdef
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭highdef


    Nothing untoward all evening in North Kildare. Quite windy but nothing compared to Deirdre. Having said that, the current trajectory of the wind means that I am being sheltered by a hill to my immediate south.


  • #574
    netbeatz
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭netbeatz


    It's incredible how many outlets blew this storm out of all proportion, no one as bad as a the Tramore Surf Shop and Surf School on Facebook.

    Talk about scaring the bejaysus out of people with this garbage (bear in mind all he was using was VentuSky):


    "Some truly incredible weather on the way tomorrow. Expect thunderstorms, months worth of rain to fall in one day, gusts potentially reaching Status Red storm levels at 144km/h-155km/h depending on IF the direction of this beast of a storm decides to change and travel north (dark purple a few miles south of us in the photo). Squalls (feeling like tornadoes), floods, lightening, big seas, winds strong enough to uproot trees in the evening (if it hits), but either way storm force winds and I'm calling for squalls to feel like you are in the middle of a tornado, that is unless there actually is a tornado. As there is the very slight and rare possibility if the storm cell decides to move north and hit us dead on with Status Red gusts between 140km/h-155km/h. (The dark purple area in the pic below is the storm with winds up to 155km/h just off of the southern Irish coast. If that decides to go north tomorrow evening along with the already major thunderstorms then prepare for an extra hairy situation.)

    I will update you tomorrow just after 12pm if the Status Red storm will hit us. Charge up all your batteries and expect major power outs due to the intense thunderstorm that will stay with us for most of the day."


    In later posts he claimed the storm shifted Dramatically at the very last minute and therefore none of the above happened. Absolute joke


  • #575
    Harry Palmr
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    Massive gusting for a while here. 85kph max.

    Whoops wrong thread


  • #576
    M.T. Cranium
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    Perhaps an opening for an enterprising person to market "I survived Storm Deirdre" T-shirts.


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  • #577
    Gaoth Laidir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »
    If you disagree with them you get the ban hammer like myself. Should stick to prioritizing their business over their attempts at meteorology. Cant help having a look on their page now as its more of a comedy. :pac:

    Putting nonsense like that on their page IS prioritising their business as it brings in the clicks. The guy who writes it is some character alright with one hell of a vivid imagination and ability to exaggerate, going by some of the other stuff he's put up.


  • #578
    sryanbruen
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    Maximum 10-minute mean wind speeds (km/h) for selected Irish stations during Storm Deirdre have been added to my table now.

    MgSFNmH.png

    Data from Met Éireann.

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  • #579
    sumtings
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    really shows how different Darwin was!


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