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Saving/Applying for a mortgage 2015/16/17/18/19

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,245 ✭✭✭limnam


    Abbey127 wrote: »
    Hi has anyone in here built there own house, myself and my partner are hoping to build on land my parents own ,

    Also do you just need to be in employment for 6 months with 6 months bank statements from your job . I have 10k saved up and my partner has 20k

    Thanks in advance

    In general yes, best thing to is sit down with your bank or mortgage adviser and they'll let you know what's required in your circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭bulmersgal


    Hey

    I'm just at the start of saving for a mortgage, I have one credit union loan for 9k that I need to reduce. I'm a single mother with one child and earn 55k from speaking to a mortgage broker he said that I could keep the loan and still get approved. I would like to try get an exemption to x4 so that I can buy something close to 250k, as I want to buy in north kildare. My thinking at the moment is to save as much as possible and have my deposit for the summer and then if bank request it clear the loan before I draw down. What is peoples experiences of doing this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭tobsey


    bulmersgal wrote: »
    Hey

    I'm just at the start of saving for a mortgage, I have one credit union loan for 9k that I need to reduce. I'm a single mother with one child and earn 55k from speaking to a mortgage broker he said that I could keep the loan and still get approved. I would like to try get an exemption to x4 so that I can buy something close to 250k, as I want to buy in north kildare. My thinking at the moment is to save as much as possible and have my deposit for the summer and then if bank request it clear the loan before I draw down. What is peoples experiences of doing this?

    You'll find it very difficult to get an exemption when you have other outstanding loans. The banks are much stricter on their affordability checks for exemptions. You'll need to have at a guess 2.5k - 3k per month after the mortgage stress tested at 5-6% and all other commitments. A mortgage of 200k at that rate could be over 1k per month depending on term so you'd have to have net income of 3.5k - 4k per month. To be honest I think you'll struggle if you don't remove all borrowings and show good savings history. It's still worth talking to the brokers and see what they can get for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Woshy


    I was going to say the same thing. Having a loan reduces what the bank thinks you can comfortable afford monthly and will therefore reduce the amount they are willing to lend you. I think you will struggle getting an exemption with an outstanding loan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭bulmersgal


    tobsey wrote: »
    You'll find it very difficult to get an exemption when you have other outstanding loans. The banks are much stricter on their affordability checks for exemptions. You'll need to have at a guess 2.5k - 3k per month after the mortgage stress tested at 5-6% and all other commitments. A mortgage of 200k at that rate could be over 1k per month depending on term so you'd have to have net income of 3.5k - 4k per month. To be honest I think you'll struggle if you don't remove all borrowings and show good savings history. It's still worth talking to the brokers and see what they can get for you.
    Woshy wrote: »
    I was going to say the same thing. Having a loan reduces what the bank thinks you can comfortable afford monthly and will therefore reduce the amount they are willing to lend you. I think you will struggle getting an exemption with an outstanding loan.

    Thank you both for the advice, I think I will just try clear it before I go for the mortgage. I'm able to save 2.1k at the moment, so it would just set me back a few months which isn't the worst thing in the world. My net income is 3.4k excluding children allowance, I don't have any childcare expenses. So I should just about pass the stress test.

    Another question I've signed up for a work pension so it will be getting reduced should I postpone this pension till I get the mortgage or what way does it work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Woshy


    bulmersgal wrote: »
    Thank you both for the advice, I think I will just try clear it before I go for the mortgage. I'm able to save 2.1k at the moment, so it would just set me back a few months which isn't the worst thing in the world. My net income is 3.4k excluding children allowance, I don't have any childcare expenses. So I should just about pass the stress test.

    Another question I've signed up for a work pension so it will be getting reduced should I postpone this pension till I get the mortgage or what way does it work.

    When we got our mortgage the first time and things were a lot tighter the banks wanted a letter from my husband's job to say he could opt out of his pension. He couldn't, so that reduced the amount that the bank were willing to lend us. In your position, given our experience I would postpone it would not sure that's the best financial advice long-term! It's just what I'd do


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Techn0


    bulmersgal wrote: »
    Thank you both for the advice, I think I will just try clear it before I go for the mortgage. I'm able to save 2.1k at the moment, so it would just set me back a few months which isn't the worst thing in the world. My net income is 3.4k excluding children allowance, I don't have any childcare expenses. So I should just about pass the stress test.

    Another question I've signed up for a work pension so it will be getting reduced should I postpone this pension till I get the mortgage or what way does it work.

    Hi bulmersgal,

    Just on the pension piece - I literally went through this myself very recently when speaking to a broker. Was looking for an exemption also and on my first round was denied. Broker said pension (was paying 7% of my gross) was going against my affordability. He recommended that I either:

    1) Get a letter from my employer stating that the pension is voluntary (i.e. I'm paying at my discretion) and I can opt out at any time or;
    2) Reduce my pension payments for the time being to help with affordability

    I ended up going with 2) even though it is the more costly option. I think the banks prefer to just see the extra income on the payslip rather than back and forth with letters etc.

    Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭bulmersgal


    Techn0 wrote: »
    Hi bulmersgal,

    Just on the pension piece - I literally went through this myself very recently when speaking to a broker. Was looking for an exemption also and on my first round was denied. Broker said pension (was paying 7% of my gross) was going against my affordability. He recommended that I either:

    1) Get a letter from my employer stating that the pension is voluntary (i.e. I'm paying at my discretion) and I can opt out at any time or;
    2) Reduce my pension payments for the time being to help with affordability

    I ended up going with 2) even though it is the more costly option. I think the banks prefer to just see the extra income on the payslip rather than back and forth with letters etc.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks so much. Did you just cancel it before you went for the mortgage. My employer matches my contribution so I would like to keep it as long as I can and then just stop until mortgage is drawn down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Techn0


    bulmersgal wrote: »
    Thanks so much. Did you just cancel it before you went for the mortgage. My employer matches my contribution so I would like to keep it as long as I can and then just stop until mortgage is drawn down.

    I'm currently going through the mortgage process myself so opted out this month (with a view to drawing down in the summer). I'm essentially foregoing around 5 months of pension payments. I'm in the same boat, I'm losing out on my matched ER contributions and tax savings of my EE contributions. But it's a short term pain for a long term gain. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭Shelga


    I have about €33k in a combination of savings and gift from parents, which I’m lucky to have. I’m on just under €60k in a very stable company, which I would have thought gave me a decent shot at an exemption.

    However, spoke to 2 banks/brokers in the last week and the chances seem minimal. I don’t really understand how they calculate whether you should get one or not, and I’m a bit disappointed as my friend was easily granted one two years ago, on about €5k less than me at the time.

    This gives me a mortgage of €202k, meaning my total budget is about €235k.

    Ideally I want a 2 bed apartment, in cycling distance of work (<10km). There’s barely anything out there at the moment in this bracket on the northside.

    Just feels like you’re totally screwed if you’re single, as if it’s not ****ty enough already.

    Anyone else fed up of having their lives on hold in their 30s, saving for a shoebox?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭smndly


    Hi, does anyone know if banks take into account additional contract work? I have a salaried job but I often take up the option to do extra evening and weekend shifts as an independent contractor which is well paid. Will the bank look at 3.5 times my salary or 3.5 times my salary plus contracting income?

    TIA


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭lir6777


    Shelga wrote: »
    I have about €33k in a combination of savings and gift from parents, which I’m lucky to have. I’m on just under €60k in a very stable company, which I would have thought gave me a decent shot at an exemption.

    However, spoke to 2 banks/brokers in the last week and the chances seem minimal. I don’t really understand how they calculate whether you should get one or not, and I’m a bit disappointed as my friend was easily granted one two years ago, on about €5k less than me at the time.

    This gives me a mortgage of €202k, meaning my total budget is about €235k.

    Ideally I want a 2 bed apartment, in cycling distance of work (<10km). There’s barely anything out there at the moment in this bracket on the northside.

    Just feels like you’re totally screwed if you’re single, as if it’s not ****ty enough already.

    Anyone else fed up of having their lives on hold in their 30s, saving for a shoebox?

    I hear you Shelga! It's really difficult as a single applicant, the house prices are way out of reach on your own if you want to be anywhere near one of the major cities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭aqn29swlgbmiu4


    Hey Shelga, I'm in a similiar boat.
    It's so frustrating being penalised for being single.

    I've been renting since I was 16 and have paid over 100 grand in rent to date, it's so frustrating that this isn't taken into account when trying to get a mortgage now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭lir6777


    Hey Shelga, I'm in a similiar boat.
    It's so frustrating being penalised for being single.

    I've been renting since I was 16 and have paid over 100 grand in rent to date, it's so frustrating that this isn't taken into account when trying to get a mortgage now.

    Oh that's a grim calculation :/ and rents only getting higher


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭iba


    Hi,
    I'm looking for a mortgage that I can pay lump sums off when I want (in addition to paying monthly repayments).
    I looked on bonkers.ie at all the different mortgage types available, but couldn't spot one that fits what I want.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction please.
    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    iba wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm looking for a mortgage that I can pay lump sums off when I want (in addition to paying monthly repayments).
    I looked on bonkers.ie at all the different mortgage types available, but couldn't spot one that fits what I want.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction please.
    Thanks.

    A variable rate means you can pay off as much as you want whenever you want with no penalties. Some fixed rate mortgages (Ulster Bank and KBC are 2 I know of) allow you to pay off a certain amount with no breakage fees, others don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    iba wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm looking for a mortgage that I can pay lump sums off when I want (in addition to paying monthly repayments).
    I looked on bonkers.ie at all the different mortgage types available, but couldn't spot one that fits what I want.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction please.
    Thanks.

    You need a variable rate mortage - most if not all lenders offer them.

    Im most cases, a fixed rate mortgage doesn't allow additional repayments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭OEP


    If you book an appointment with a mortgage adviser in one of the banks, what will they go through with me? Basically all I want to know is if they'll give me a mortgage at my current level of savings in a few months time - will they do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    OEP wrote: »
    If you book an appointment with a mortgage adviser in one of the banks, what will they go through with me? Basically all I want to know is if they'll give me a mortgage at my current level of savings in a few months time - will they do this?

    Yes, they can do it over the phone either. I rang them 5 months ago, they said you need to save x amount for 6 months and then you're good to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭tomister


    iba wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm looking for a mortgage that I can pay lump sums off when I want (in addition to paying monthly repayments).
    I looked on bonkers.ie at all the different mortgage types available, but couldn't spot one that fits what I want.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction please.
    Thanks.
    I know bank of Ireland give the option of splitting the mortgage into 2 whereby one part is a fixed rate and the other is variable. You can then over pay the variable portion as much as you want without penalty


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Daveone


    I am in the market for a mortgage this year to buy a home with my partner. Thankfully we are in a good financial place for this, with good salaries, savings and no dependents (yet). We are both in our early 30s

    I had until recently been quite steadfast in the idea that I did not want to go for a very long term mortgage (30 years +) as I didn't want that on my plate in my 60s. But are we better off going for a long term mortgage like this, to allow for a lower initial repayment, and then after the initial fixed period accelerate payments to cut the life span?

    If I pay off a 30 year mortgage in 15-20, do I only pay the interest I have accrued?

    Many thanks


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hi,

    looking for some opinions on income, I receive a yearly taxable allowance of 3000 euro which is taxable for health benefits. My company would not record this figure on my salary cert though as it is not guaranteed.

    My question is would banks consider this as income? It can be seen on payslips for the last two years f employment. My broker said it needs to be on the cert but wondering if anyone has had similar and had income taken into account that wasn't on a salary cert?


  • Administrators Posts: 54,109 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Daveone wrote: »
    I am in the market for a mortgage this year to buy a home with my partner. Thankfully we are in a good financial place for this, with good salaries, savings and no dependents (yet). We are both in our early 30s

    I had until recently been quite steadfast in the idea that I did not want to go for a very long term mortgage (30 years +) as I didn't want that on my plate in my 60s. But are we better off going for a long term mortgage like this, to allow for a lower initial repayment, and then after the initial fixed period accelerate payments to cut the life span?

    If I pay off a 30 year mortgage in 15-20, do I only pay the interest I have accrued?

    Many thanks

    Yes. Mortgage interest accrues daily, so if you pay a 30 year mortgage off in 15 years you have only paid 15 years worth of interest.

    The advantage to taking a longer term mortgage and overpaying is that you have a safety net to fall back on if you ever need to reduce your payments for whatever reason, and you don't need the approval of the bank to do this.

    The disadvantage is that if you want to overpay you may be limited by the interest rate options available to you. Generally, fixed terms either don't allow overpayments, or only allow overpaying by a certain percent. If you want to overpay by a lot (and paying a mortgage off in half the agreed time is overpaying by a lot) then you may have to stick to variable rates, which are not bad at all right now, but you're more immediately susceptible to rate changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    tolow wrote: »
    Hi,

    looking for some opinions on income, I receive a yearly taxable allowance of 3000 euro which is taxable for health benefits. My company would not record this figure on my salary cert though as it is not guaranteed.

    My question is would banks consider this as income? It can be seen on payslips for the last two years f employment. My broker said it needs to be on the cert but wondering if anyone has had similar and had income taken into account that wasn't on a salary cert?

    No income has to be guaranteed for it to be counted. However AIB were willing to take 50% of my non-guaranteed income into account because I got it 3 years in a row.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Jaelynn Eager Kindle


    awec wrote: »
    Yes. Mortgage interest accrues daily, so if you pay a 30 year mortgage off in 15 years you have only paid 15 years worth of interest.

    The advantage to taking a longer term mortgage and overpaying is that you have a safety net to fall back on if you ever need to reduce your payments for whatever reason, and you don't need the approval of the bank to do this.

    The disadvantage is that if you want to overpay you may be limited by the interest rate options available to you. Generally, fixed terms either don't allow overpayments, or only allow overpaying by a certain percent. If you want to overpay by a lot (and paying a mortgage off in half the agreed time is overpaying by a lot) then you may have to stick to variable rates, which are not bad at all right now, but you're more immediately susceptible to rate changes.

    I know some banks allow you to put part of the mortgage on a fixed rate and part of it on variable, KBC offered this to us definitely and I think BOI might allow it too. So you can pay off whatever you like of the variable portion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭ebayissues


    Has anyone gotten an exception from kbc/ recently renewed their exception or just drawdown on a mortgage?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ebayissues wrote: »
    Has anyone gotten an exception from kbc/ recently renewed their exception or just drawdown on a mortgage?

    I haven't done either but wondering how long your exception lasts with KBC.

    I've applied through a broker, not for an exception but wondering if we have approval in principle for no exception and then later ask for an exception is it like a new application?


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭ebayissues


    tolow wrote: »
    I haven't done either but wondering how long your exception lasts with KBC.

    I've applied through a broker, not for an exception but wondering if we have approval in principle for no exception and then later ask for an exception is it like a new application?

    I got an AIP which was an exception till the end of this month. Was going to renew it but wondering if anyone has done so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 60 ✭✭Boozybooze


    Any advice for a single applicant. Ill be applying in three months time. No loans, moved back in with parents 12 months ago and been keeping my account squeaky clean for the last six months.

    House Price: 195000
    Salary: 50K
    Savings when applying: 40K

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    Boozybooze wrote: »
    Any advice for a single applicant. Ill be applying in three months time. No loans, moved back in with parents 12 months ago and been keeping my account squeaky clean for the last six months.

    House Price: 195000
    Salary: 50K
    Savings when applying: 40K

    Thanks

    Best advice we got was to prove we could afford the monthly repayment through savings. Like you, we had a lump sum so planned to save €1000 monthly. I called a broker to just run it by them and he said that our repayment would be €1400 based on how much we wanted to borrow, so to actually save €1700 to show we can more than afford it. Great advice I thought.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 60 ✭✭Boozybooze


    lfen wrote: »
    Best advice we got was to prove we could afford the monthly repayment through savings. Like you, we had a lump sum so planned to save €1000 monthly. I called a broker to just run it by them and he said that our repayment would be €1400 based on how much we wanted to borrow, so to actually save €1700 to show we can more than afford it. Great advice I thought.

    Thanks probably should of setting aside the money in a seperate account. With 3100 a month income after tax and a twenty year mortgage at around 950 with 10% deposit hopefully I'll be okay.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ebayissues wrote: »
    I got an AIP which was an exception till the end of this month. Was going to renew it but wondering if anyone has done so.

    To get the exception did you need an address of a property you were planning on bidding on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭ebayissues


    tolow wrote: »
    To get the exception did you need an address of a property you were planning on bidding on?


    Nope, maybe a rough idea location wise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭lfen


    Boozybooze wrote: »
    Thanks probably should of setting aside the money in a seperate account. With 3100 a month income after tax and a twenty year mortgage at around 950 with 10% deposit hopefully I'll be okay.

    Just sure to show 6 months of saving more than €950 monthly


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Glen_Quagmire


    We bought our house about 8 months ago.

    We originally had an offer from BOI for 5 years fixed at 3% however the house wasnt built in time and this offer expired after 6 months and we had to get a revised offer and the rates with BOI had risen to 3.2% for 5 years fixed.

    We took the offer at 3.2% for 5 years fixed.

    I now see BOI rates have gone back down to 3% again.

    Bad luck with timing on our part..

    Probably a stupid question but I assume the banks dont renegotiate the rates with situations like this and offer the lower rate if it changes shortly after? I know some industries offer customers a refund of the difference if something they buy goes down in a sale in the near future.

    I doubt banks are the same and its probably a stupid question as the rates could have easily gone up rather than down but I said I would ask the question as there maybe something there which I'm not aware of.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    Hi, I am a single man in my mid 30’s just about to apply. I missed 8 weeks of work last year due to an old health injury that pops up every now and then. I continued to save €1000 a month when out of work. Will missing work go against me? Also, I told my employer a few weeks ago I was going to apply for a mortgage. He has given me a substantial pay rise (from 33k to 40k. Will the banks take my new salary into account even though I only have 1 payslip to prove my new salary?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭DelBoy Trotter


    Maz2016 wrote: »
    Hi, I am a single man in my mid 30’s just about to apply. I missed 8 weeks of work last year due to an old health injury that pops up every now and then. I continued to save €1000 a month when out of work. Will missing work go against me? Also, I told my employer a few weeks ago I was going to apply for a mortgage. He has given me a substantial pay rise (from 33k to 40k. Will the banks take my new salary into account even though I only have 1 payslip to prove my new salary?

    You will have to provide the bank with a salary cert from your employer, and as you have one payslip showing that your pay rise has gone through, the bank will take your new salary into account


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭Looptheloop30


    lfen wrote: »
    Just sure to show 6 months of saving more than €950 monthly

    Possibly a daft question: Does rent payments count towards being able to show saving ability?

    I.e if living at home you'd need to show 900/1000 savings each month whereas if renting you'd need to show monthly rent payments + savings to make up to the 900 or whatever ball park figure?


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭lir6777


    Possibly a daft question: Does rent payments count towards being able to show saving ability?

    I.e if living at home you'd need to show 900/1000 savings each month whereas if renting you'd need to show monthly rent payments + savings to make up to the 900 or whatever ball park figure?

    Yes, rent will count towards repayment calculations. Also I believe any loan repayments where the loan will be paid off before drawdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭hanaimai



    Probably a stupid question but I assume the banks dont renegotiate the rates with situations like this and offer the lower rate if it changes shortly after? I know some industries offer customers a refund of the difference if something they buy goes down in a sale in the near future.

    I doubt banks are the same and its probably a stupid question as the rates could have easily gone up rather than down but I said I would ask the question as there maybe something there which I'm not aware of.

    Short answer - no. If you signed a contract for a fixed rate, you're locked into that rate for the duration of the contract. Whether the banks rates go up or down won't affect your fixed rate until it expires.

    Longer answer - you are of course free to break contract during the term of the fixed rate and move to a lower rate (either with BOI or a different bank). This may incur a penalty known as a break fee. The break fee can vary greatly but you can ring up BOI for a quote. It's possible that even with the break fee, the lower rate will save you money in the longer term so you should certainly look into it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    I've been following this thread for a year. Just went sale agreed on a nice cottage on a half acre.
    Sorted solicitor and bank today.
    Going for Ulsterbank as they seem to have competitive rates.

    Thanks a million for all the advice and help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭z0oT


    For anyone who's bought a new build:

    At what point can you get Home Insurance & Mortgage Protection in place? Mortgage Protection can probably be done whenever the mortgage amount & term is finalized. For Home Insurance the house probably needs to be finished?

    We're buying a new build (which is being built at the minute), and hoping for drawdown around the middle of April. We've just got what will likely be our final Mortgage Letter of Offer last week. Does one have to specify a start date on those policys or can the start date change? I obviously don't know the exact date we'll be getting the keys.

    We're new to all of this, but I want to move on the Mortgage Protection & Home Insurance probably this week if I can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    z0oT wrote: »
    For anyone who's bought a new build:

    At what point can you get Home Insurance & Mortgage Protection in place? Mortgage Protection can probably be done whenever the mortgage amount & term is finalized. For Home Insurance the house probably needs to be finished?

    We're buying a new build (which is being built at the minute), and hoping for drawdown around the middle of April. We've just got what will likely be our final Mortgage Letter of Offer last week. Does one have to specify a start date on those policys or can the start date change? I obviously don't know the exact date we'll be getting the keys.

    We're new to all of this, but I want to move on the Mortgage Protection & Home Insurance probably this week if I can.

    Both can be put in place basically as soon as you've gotten underwritten AIP and can be held until you need them. Get Mortgage protection done first, depending on your - and your family's - medical history it could end up taking extra time.

    Home insurance can be pretty much done in a day (one phone call).

    You activate the mortgage protection the day your solicitor draw the funds down. You activate the home insurance the day you get the keys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭tomister


    z0oT wrote: »
    For anyone who's bought a new build:

    At what point can you get Home Insurance & Mortgage Protection in place? Mortgage Protection can probably be done whenever the mortgage amount & term is finalized. For Home Insurance the house probably needs to be finished?

    We're buying a new build (which is being built at the minute), and hoping for drawdown around the middle of April. We've just got what will likely be our final Mortgage Letter of Offer last week. Does one have to specify a start date on those policys or can the start date change? I obviously don't know the exact date we'll be getting the keys.

    We're new to all of this, but I want to move on the Mortgage Protection & Home Insurance probably this week if I can.

    For Mortgage Protection you can get it done whenever however for the Home Insurance you need to have the valuation carried out. This is because you need the rebuild cost of the property which you will only get on the valuation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    forgot about that, yeah you'll need a valuation done to get the home insurance, still rest of my post remains valid. You get the valuation done once the builder has stated the building is complete.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Klaudia.


    Guys, how banks look at investment accounts? I saw on this forum some people are opting out of pension contributions. Would that be the same with investments? Let's say I put away each month the same amount and invest + save on separate account for a house... do I need to stop investing?

    Also, I'm thinking about moving back to family house for a few months (rent-free; parents want to help). It will help with savings, but would banks question my ability to repay the mortgage?


  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭gnf_ireland


    We bought our house about 8 months ago.

    We originally had an offer from BOI for 5 years fixed at 3% however the house wasnt built in time and this offer expired after 6 months and we had to get a revised offer and the rates with BOI had risen to 3.2% for 5 years fixed.

    We took the offer at 3.2% for 5 years fixed.

    I now see BOI rates have gone back down to 3% again.

    Bad luck with timing on our part..

    Probably a stupid question but I assume the banks dont renegotiate the rates with situations like this and offer the lower rate if it changes shortly after? I know some industries offer customers a refund of the difference if something they buy goes down in a sale in the near future.

    I doubt banks are the same and its probably a stupid question as the rates could have easily gone up rather than down but I said I would ask the question as there maybe something there which I'm not aware of.

    No they won't - but you can ask them what the break fee is for fixed mortgage. If the number is negligible, you tell them you wish to break the fixed mortgage and then sign up to another 5 years at 3% ! Absolutely nothing wrong with it and you might find the break free is actually zero

    No harm in asking ! The worst that can happen is you waste a bit of time and the fee does not make sense. Its worth 200 euro a year (1k over the 5 year term) for every 100k of a mortgage you have !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭KilOit


    z0oT wrote: »
    For anyone who's bought a new build:

    At what point can you get Home Insurance & Mortgage Protection in place? Mortgage Protection can probably be done whenever the mortgage amount & term is finalized. For Home Insurance the house probably needs to be finished?

    We're buying a new build (which is being built at the minute), and hoping for drawdown around the middle of April. We've just got what will likely be our final Mortgage Letter of Offer last week. Does one have to specify a start date on those policys or can the start date change? I obviously don't know the exact date we'll be getting the keys.

    We're new to all of this, but I want to move on the Mortgage Protection & Home Insurance probably this week if I can.

    Get mortgage protection done asap, i was 6 weeks waiting on my one, i bought second hand and it almost fell through because of it.
    I'm sure new builds isn't so rough and under huge time constraints though


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 Monitor1985


    Has anyone any experience with ICS mortgages lately? Thinking of going with them as my missus works with the HSE.

    Was thinking of going with Ulster Bank first for two years at 2.3% then switching, but it will cost €1500 roughly to swap and the difference is only about €240 over 2 years if I go with ICS straight up.

    We'll hopefully be going in at under 80% LTV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    Has anyone had difficulty with the mortgage/insurance when they have a pre existing health condition? I have a heart condition but it doesn’t affect my day to day life. Had surgery 3 years ago


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