Anxiety and depression thread (Please read OP)

Wanderer78 · 21-01-2021 3:14pm

Meeoow wrote: »

Did you check the massive list of side effects in tiny print? I wouldn't be surprised if it was sertraline causing it.
I have tinnitus from it. It says ringing in ears as a side effect. It doesn't mention that it can be permanent, even after you stop it.

im looking around alright, only thing i can see is 'tenderness around cheekbones', nothing directly about tooth ache, i might bring down my dosage, just to see what happens

Lockheed · 22-01-2021 11:59am

Is anyone else having absolutely woeful service from the local mental health department??
Four times in a row my prescriptions were short, nobody has any clue what is going on and today I ran out and ringing the pharmacy to arrange my script, they hadn't received it (had a call with consultant doc two days ago)
At this point the only thing negatively affecting my mental health is the service and how stressful it is trying to constantly arrange medication (getting emergency scripts and rooting through drawers, sometimes halving my dose to keep it going) as I can never get through to anyone at the clinic

Multipass · 22-01-2021 12:25pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

im starting to think i may do, im experiencing tooth ache and jaw pain over the last few days, i have an old dodgy tooth, thats close to the end of its life, but the pain seems to be moving around my jaw and teeth, thats a very unusual situation, so im thinking i might be grinding my teeth, im also thinking, maybe my wisdom teeth are on the move or something

I clench my jaw on all ssri meds, But just a thought based on you saying that the pain moves around your jaw and teeth - I get this a lot and mine is caused by sinus problems. Once the tooth pain starts I know I’m in for sinus pain and headaches for the next day or two.

Wanderer78 · 22-01-2021 12:34pm

Multipass wrote: »

I clench my jaw on all ssri meds, But just a thought based on you saying that the pain moves around your jaw and teeth - I get this a lot and mine is caused by sinus problems. Once the tooth pain starts I know I’m in for sinus pain and headaches for the next day or two.

yea i think mine is all sinus related, have to contact the doc next week anyway, so i think i ll request a covid test anyway, im not showing any of the serious signs, no fever, virtually no cough, no difficulties breeding etc. this is going on almost a week now

RabbleRouser2k · 22-01-2021 4:45pm

Sleep has been really messed up this week. Monday and Thursday, went to bed at 6pm, for a nap. Ended up sleeping 16 hours each time.

DrSpongeBobz · 23-01-2021 12:04am

I cant sleep without taking benylin 4flu everynight to knock me out. Suffering bad insomnia and stress.

Lockheed · 23-01-2021 12:22am

Told the clinic I didn't want to come up on the mirtazapine because most of the stress and low mood I've been having comes from their absolute lack of communication and care towards me and whether I'm content and on my medication, but its so ****ing hard just to get a script from them I'm tempted to just leave it, what hurt could it do..

Gremlinertia · 23-01-2021 2:13am

Lockheed wrote: »

Told the clinic I didn't want to come up on the mirtazapine because most of the stress and low mood I've been having comes from their absolute lack of communication and care towards me and whether I'm content and on my medication, but its so ****ing hard just to get a script from them I'm tempted to just leave it, what hurt could it do..

Usually the team there would email your gp to keep them up to date with things, perhaps your gp could help by issuing the script?.

Gremlinertia · 23-01-2021 2:14am

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

I cant sleep without taking benylin 4flu everynight to knock me out. Suffering bad insomnia and stress.

Not good, sorry to hear it.. You been to your doctor?. Not a healthy habit plus doesn't treat the stress

RabbleRouser2k · 23-01-2021 2:42am

Gremlinertia wrote: »

Not good, sorry to hear it.. You been to your doctor?. Not a healthy habit plus doesn't treat the stress

Plus it's not quite a 'true' sleep. If its the codeine that's making one fall asleep, then you're going to wake up just as tired.

PatFran96 · 24-01-2021 1:18pm

One week done taking these and feeling terrible nausea, dizziness, trouble sleeping and even more anxiety than normal. Really hoping I get through this phase soon.

FHFM50 · 24-01-2021 1:46pm

PatFran96 wrote: »

One week done taking these and feeling terrible nausea, dizziness, trouble sleeping and even more anxiety than normal. Really hoping I get through this phase soon.

The first week I felt like that as well but it does ease off eventually. If you're really bad go to Caredoc and ask for something to help the sleeping.

Just to let you know the sexual side effects never fully go away. That's why I'm talking to my doctor about trying a different antidepressant other than an SSRI

Rain_Dog_Brian · 25-01-2021 6:45pm

Hi there. This is frequent. I did get Anxicalm to help me sleep. I didn’t want to take it at start because I wanted to assess the effectiveness of the SSRI alone, but it definitely helped. I stuck with my first SSRI for 8 weeks just to be sure to give it full chance. But remained “more anxious”. Then changed fairly quickly to a second type. This worked better but took a fair while (6wks-ish) to have full effect. I’m currently about 10 was into that second type, and I’m significantly improved (incl. other things like meditation, no drink, using CBT). That’s after at least 1yr of being in a bad hole, and a few decades of under the radar anxiety.
SSRI definitely changed my entire perspective for the better (along with other things as mentioned above).
Good luck!

Airyfairy12 · 25-01-2021 9:29pm

Just started on Brintellix and dont really notice any side effects but not sure if I feel any different. Has anyone tried this medication before? Thoughts?

Gremlinertia · 26-01-2021 8:11am

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Just started on Brintellix and dont really notice any side effects but not sure if I feel any different. Has anyone tried this medication before? Thoughts?

How long are you on it?. As frustrating as all the mood drugs it takes a few weeks foe effects to become apparent and of course dosages may be changed too. My partner found it useful initially but it levelled off so docs changed her again.

Airyfairy12 · 26-01-2021 3:57pm

Gremlinertia wrote: »

How long are you on it?. As frustrating as all the mood drugs it takes a few weeks foe effects to become apparent and of course dosages may be changed too. My partner found it useful initially but it levelled off so docs changed her again.

Im just on it 3 weeks, 2 weeks on 5mg and one week on 10mg. Ive read from comments on other forums that it can stop working after a few weeks, not sure if thats common with all meds or just Brintillex?
I dread the thought of having to changed meds as ive been on 2 other ones over the years and the side effects were unbearable.

Anon.123 · 26-01-2021 8:33pm

Hi all,

I’m having a really tough time of it lately, have had anxiety for over a year & feel like I’ve tried everything besides medication. Any help would be greatly appreciated - I’m currently on a Grow programme which I find very helpful.

Thank you.

Meeoow · 26-01-2021 9:25pm

Anon.123 wrote: »

Hi all,

I’m having a really tough time of it lately, have had anxiety for over a year & feel like I’ve tried everything besides medication. Any help would be greatly appreciated - I’m currently on a Grow programme which I find very helpful.

Thank you.

Anxiety is sh1te. It snowballs.
Try exercising. Breathing. Mindfulness.

radiotrickster · 26-01-2021 9:30pm

FHFM50 wrote: »

Just to let you know the sexual side effects never fully go away. That's why I'm talking to my doctor about trying a different antidepressant other than an SSRI

Can I just check what you meant here? Do you mean the side effect doesn’t fully go away while you’re on it or it’s a a life-long side effect that you get?

Just a bit concerned for myself now!

Gremlinertia · 26-01-2021 9:30pm

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Im just on it 3 weeks, 2 weeks on 5mg and one week on 10mg. Ive read from comments on other forums that it can stop working after a few weeks, not sure if thats common with all meds or just Brintillex?
I dread the thought of having to changed meds as ive been on 2 other ones over the years and the side effects were unbearable.

It can take six to eight weeks to see results at varying doses. Do talk to your gp/health professional about it, they'll have been through similar with others and can allay your fears. There is a big enough range of medications and combinations out there that you shouldn't have to tolerate bad side effects

Anon.123 · 26-01-2021 11:12pm

Meeoow wrote: »

Anxiety is sh1te. It snowballs.
Try exercising. Breathing. Mindfulness.

Have you tried Rescue Remedy by any chance I’ve heard it being recommended?

I’d like to try the herbal remedies if possible before going on anything further.

Gremlinertia · 26-01-2021 11:20pm

Anon.123 wrote: »

Hi all,

I’m having a really tough time of it lately, have had anxiety for over a year & feel like I’ve tried everything besides medication. Any help would be greatly appreciated - I’m currently on a Grow programme which I find very helpful.

Thank you.

There are lots of things around meditation that you can try, breathing exercises, yoga etc. Then there are things you would learn with a psychologist or people like Grow or Aware about coping skills.

statto25 · 27-01-2021 12:09am

Anon.123 wrote: »

Hi all,

I’m having a really tough time of it lately, have had anxiety for over a year & feel like I’ve tried everything besides medication. Any help would be greatly appreciated - I’m currently on a Grow programme which I find very helpful.

Thank you.

This might not be the popular opinion but there is nothing wrong with medication even if it's to give you some respite in your mind so you can practice non medicinal methods.

FHFM50 · 27-01-2021 10:45am

radiotrickster wrote: »

Can I just check what you meant here? Do you mean the side effect doesn’t fully go away while you’re on it or it’s a a life-long side effect that you get?

Just a bit concerned for myself now!

The side effect doesn't fully go away while you're on it.

In some cases the effect can be permanent even when you come off them. It's called PSSD (Google it)

A lot of people are going on Mirtazapine because it doesn't cause sexual side effects like SSRI's and SNRI's do .

RabbleRouser2k · 27-01-2021 12:05pm

statto25 wrote: »

This might not be the popular opinion but there is nothing wrong with medication even if it's to give you some respite in your mind so you can practice non medicinal methods.

It's legitimately frustrating that people are so opposed to medication.

One book I read about mental health basically describes medication as water wings. Helps you stay afloat.

Too many people die because folks are opposed to medication. I even saw one video game artist who died (in the last week or so) primarily because he was told 'toughen up' and his parents were opposed to medication.

So he self-medicated... which only made his mental illness worse. He sadly didn't see life getting better, and made a very tragic decision.

Meeoow · 27-01-2021 12:11pm

Anon.123 wrote: »

Have you tried Rescue Remedy by any chance I’ve heard it being recommended?

I’d like to try the herbal remedies if possible before going on anything further.

I haven't tried it. I would like to know if its any good. Definitely something to consider.

Multipass · 27-01-2021 12:14pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

It's legitimately frustrating that people are so opposed to medication.

One book I read about mental health basically describes medication as water wings. Helps you stay afloat.

Too many people die because folks are opposed to medication. I even saw one video game artist who died (in the last week or so) primarily because he was told 'toughen up' and his parents were opposed to medication.

So he self-medicated... which only made his mental illness worse. He sadly didn't see life getting better, and made a very tragic decision.

It’s equally frustrating when you take medication after medication and always end up still in the same place. Doctors just throw these at you and don’t want to hear from you again, it’s not a solution for everyone.

RabbleRouser2k · 27-01-2021 12:17pm

Multipass wrote: »

It’s equally frustrating when you take medication after medication and always end up still in the same place. Doctors just throw these at you and don’t want to hear from you again, it’s not a solution for everyone.

Oh I agree. But some needlessly suffer. And Mental health services here in IReland are... inadequate, at best.

Wanderer78 · 27-01-2021 2:04pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Oh I agree. But some needlessly suffer. And Mental health services here in IReland are... inadequate, at best.

...and quickly getting worse, as far as i can see

RabbleRouser2k · 27-01-2021 2:36pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

...and quickly getting worse, as far as i can see

Legitimately, yeah. You have to go private. And not everyone can afford private.

Wanderer78 · 27-01-2021 2:42pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Legitimately, yeah. You have to go private. And not everyone can afford private.

absolutely, shur one of my therapists is 70 a visit

Multipass · 27-01-2021 3:42pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Legitimately, yeah. You have to go private. And not everyone can afford private.

Especially when they raise their prices. €200 for an online follow up appointment with one of the major private providers, raised from €150 this January. That’s me done.

Graces7 · 01-02-2021 7:19am

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Plus it's not quite a 'true' sleep. If its the codeine that's making one fall asleep, then you're going to wake up just as tired.

I just checked and there is no codeine in Tamy4flu It is the antihistamine causes sleepiness.

I take prescription codeine at night for nerve pain and I sleep like a baby and wake refreshed and eased. Ready for the day ahead. Very much a true sleep . It sets the issues that are preventing sleep aside.

RabbleRouser2k · 01-02-2021 7:48am

Graces7 wrote: »

I just checked and there is no codeine in Tamy4flu It is the antihistamine causes sleepiness.

I take prescription codeine at night for nerve pain and I sleep like a baby and wake refreshed and eased. Ready for the day ahead. Very much a true sleep . It sets the issues that are preventing sleep aside.

It can vary. If you're taking it for a prescribed reason, then it will help. If it's not prescribed and the issue is psychological, then it's going to do more harm than good.

RabbleRouser2k · 01-02-2021 8:25am

Sleep when whack the last few days. Tho this time, it's not inexplicable.

Someone my brother used to work with passed away last week (his funeral was a few days ago). He'd been given a terminal diagnosis roughly 2 years ago, and sadly his time came.

While initially I didn't think it would affect me, I watched his funeral (it was streamed online, and on the radio, due to Covid and a limited number of people being allowed attend his funeral) out of respect, as I knew his family. (His dad and my dad often worked together too).

Listening to the details of his passing, the final days, how his family and his fiancee couldn't hug him goodbye and instead had to say goodbye while standing at the window of the hospice...
It got to me.

Been weirdly hazy since then.

Graces7 · 01-02-2021 8:51am

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

It can vary. If you're taking it for a prescribed reason, then it will help. If it's not prescribed and the issue is psychological, then it's going to do more harm than good.

Sleep is sleep. and a well known side effect of codeine thankfully. Bliss!

And of course there are other major issues I battle with. But sleep helps those too however it is achieved.
And I wake refreshed and renewed and able to face another day,

Graces7 · 01-02-2021 9:01am

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

It's legitimately frustrating that people are so opposed to medication.

One book I read about mental health basically describes medication as water wings. Helps you stay afloat.

Too many people die because folks are opposed to medication. I even saw one video game artist who died (in the last week or so) primarily because he was told 'toughen up' and his parents were opposed to medication.

So he self-medicated... which only made his mental illness worse. He sadly didn't see life getting better, and made a very tragic decision.

it is personal choice. Taking psych meds I mean. As is every form of medical treatment

I personally would never again touch psych meds after years of them . So many side effects and an unreliable outcome. Pain control is enough for me in my old age

But my generation were not raised that way.
And this is my choice now after trying it both ways.

And many on them make that last choice anyways. Sadly so . Thinking of young Shpud

RabbleRouser2k · 01-02-2021 10:00am

Graces7 wrote: »

it is personal choice. Taking psych meds I mean. As is every form of medical treatment

I personally would never again touch psych meds after years of them . So many side effects and an unreliable outcome. Pain control is enough for me in my old age

But my generation were not raised that way.
And this is my choice now after trying it both ways.

And many on them make that last choice anyways. Sadly so . Thinking of young Shpud

Young Shpud? Aw, I didn't know they made that choice... I may have been away from the forum at the time. Very sorry to hear that.

Yeah... they're not for everyone. Some people respond well to them, some people find them disagreeable.
There's also this fear of taking pills.

I know my parents hate(d) taking an anti-biotic (come to think of it, so do I-but for different reasons. The side effects tend to be annoying, as it affects my skin.). They'd be very slow to take them, often trying over the counter stuff, or home remedies.
If things didn't get better after about 2 or 3 weeks, they'd go to the doctor.

Graces7 · 03-02-2021 8:48pm

Been lying here in the darkness. Once again I am being left with no pain meds. Quite deliberately and knowingly again.

Utterly weary of being some kind of pawn in all this. Heartsick that any dr could do this. Weary of spending the best part of a day when pain and exhaustion were so bad anyways battering down the wall of silence to learn that this is the same people etc Everyone just walking by on the other side.

It is a dark place. Where I cannot stay any more.

PatFran96 · 06-02-2021 9:28pm

Anyone any experience of taking Setraline for anxiety, 3 weeks in now and feeling just horrible, still got nausea, feeling really down and depressed with it and anxiety is still very high. Trying to decide whether to just kick them or keep with for another while

Multipass · 06-02-2021 9:40pm

PatFran96 wrote: »

Anyone any experience of taking Setraline for anxiety, 3 weeks in now and feeling just horrible, still got nausea, feeling really down and depressed with it and anxiety is still very high. Trying to decide whether to just kick them or keep with for another while

That one didn’t suit me, but I’d say that if you’re 3 weeks in it might be worth carrying on a few more to give it a proper chance.

Airyfairy12 · 06-02-2021 10:07pm

PatFran96 wrote: »

Anyone any experience of taking Setraline for anxiety, 3 weeks in now and feeling just horrible, still got nausea, feeling really down and depressed with it and anxiety is still very high. Trying to decide whether to just kick them or keep with for another while

It didnt suit me but if youre 3 weeks in keep going, another 2 weeks and you should start to feel better.

Wanderer78 · 06-02-2021 10:13pm

PatFran96 wrote:

Anyone any experience of taking Setraline for anxiety, 3 weeks in now and feeling just horrible, still got nausea, feeling really down and depressed with it and anxiety is still very high. Trying to decide whether to just kick them or keep with for another while

I'm on it a year now, first ssri, so I've nothing to compare to, but I think it's helping me a lot, with both anxiety and depression. took a while to find the right dosage though, was originally prescribed 150mg, but side effects became too much, blurred vision and severe eye irritation, down to 50mg now, little or no side effects

PatFran96 · 06-02-2021 10:22pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I'm on it a year now, first ssri, so I've nothing to compare to, but I think it's helping me a lot, with both anxiety and depression. took a while to find the right dosage though, was originally prescribed 150mg, but side effects became too much, blurred vision and severe eye irritation, down to 50mg now, little or no side effects

Thanks for the reply, how long did it take until you started to see the benefits of it, I'm on 50mg for the last 3 weeks and seeing no benefits, actually have been feeling worse than before I started taking it.

PatFran96 · 06-02-2021 10:26pm

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It didnt suit me but if youre 3 weeks in keep going, another 2 weeks and you should start to feel better.

Thanks, yeah I hope I will see some positive benefits to it soon, so far it's been horrible, from nausea, headaches, brain fog etc. If dont see an improvement soon will head back to doctors

Wanderer78 · 08-02-2021 11:03am

PatFran96 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply, how long did it take until you started to see the benefits of it, I'm on 50mg for the last 3 weeks and seeing no benefits, actually have been feeling worse than before I started taking it.

i was originally prescribed 150mg, i slowly increased dosage, until i got to the 150mg per day, in 50mg intervals. i actually felt a difference almost immediately, on the 50mg, but this improved as i increased dosage. unfortunately the side effects became too much as i increased the dosage, becoming unbearable at the 150 level, leading to severe eye irritation and very bad blurred vision. doc recommended dropping dosage until things settled down, leaving dosage up to myself. im currently on 50mg, have been for a couple of weeks now, but my mood is starting to wobbly a bit, so i may have to increase it back to the previous amount, 75mg, which i was at for a few months, with little or no problems.

Rain_Dog_Brian · 09-02-2021 4:58pm

PatFran96 wrote: »

Anyone any experience of taking Setraline for anxiety, 3 weeks in now and feeling just horrible, still got nausea, feeling really down and depressed with it and anxiety is still very high. Trying to decide whether to just kick them or keep with for another while

Hi there. I started on 50mg Sertraline, and after 4wks moved up to 100mg.
In the (first) fourth week I felt noticeably better (much reduced anxiety) for a few days (my perspective shifted). It was near instantaneous as opposed to slight improvements over time.
It dipped after about 1 wk.
Then 4wks into 100mg there was a significant improvement again.
I’m now nearly 8wks in at 100mg, and enjoying life.
Happy to pm more if you want.

I did get prescription to help me sleep, through the initial weeks, where the side effects seemed to be increased anxiety. Don’t need them now.

Also doing CBT.

Best of luck giving them the full chance, rather than stopping before giving them a chance to work, so long as you are able to that is.
I didn’t have any luck on the first SSRI I tried (gave it 8wks), so don’t give up if this one doesn’t happen to work.

RabbleRouser2k · 09-02-2021 10:11pm

Sleep is kind of gone to wack again.

I've found that I've been trying to pull 16 hour days, with a 4 or 5 hour sleep. It's not productive, and it makes me crash and sleep for 17 hours after a couple of days of that.

I don't like it. I don't like feeling like I'm wasting days.

Wanderer78 · 10-02-2021 2:53am

RabbleRouser2k wrote:

I don't like it. I don't like feeling like I'm wasting days.

I'm in a similar frame of mind here, sleep has gone ta sh1te

RabbleRouser2k · 10-02-2021 3:12am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I'm in a similar frame of mind here, sleep has gone ta sh1te

I don't like it. Genuinely. It makes me irritable beyond belief. Like a hangover.

Anxiety and depression thread (Please read OP)

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