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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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    #9692
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Two similar countries to ourselves are Denmark and Norway.

    Denmark are on around 8% every day and Norway on approx 5%. So we're all in and around the same level, with Norway slightly more successful.
    In what way similar?

    Over at least five metrics please, or is it still just comparable gross populations on the periphery of Europe?


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    #9693
    893bet
    Registered Users Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭893bet


    keynes wrote: »
    Sorry, Leo has been a joke from the outset, along with the rest of them (who laughably cant even order proper PPE). And remember how Leo scoffed at some town that cancelled its St Patricks Day Parade? And what was his advice regarding that virus petri dish, Cheltenham? Well, nothing, zilch. Trump was the first to cancel flights from China and now Europe. Our spineless yes men still have flights pouring in daily from all the world's virus hotspots.
    And it's outlandish to compare us to the US or most European countries. We are in a unique position as an island on the edge of Europe, so our figures *should* be a lot better than everywhere else, incl Denmark etc. If we are doing well, its despite our inept leadership, certainly not because of it

    Ah an edgey new user.


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    #9694
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    OwlsZat wrote: »
    Israel has been treating the ICU deathbed patients with stem cells. The results are very impressive. The vast majority make a full recovery in a matter of weeks.

    Full recovery? As in no long or other organ damage?


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    #9695
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,701 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Yeah can we not make the scrubs and other protective gear ourselves?

    There is a company in limerick that makes n95 masks and have ramped up production significantly.
    But I think due to the sheer quantities required worldwide, there's just a global shortage. Demand is in the billions of masks needed worldwide.


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    #9696
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    keynes wrote: »
    Sorry, Leo has been a joke from the outset, along with the rest of them (who laughably cant even order proper PPE). And remember how Leo scoffed at some town that cancelled its St Patricks Day Parade? And what was his advice regarding that virus petri dish, Cheltenham? Well, nothing, zilch. Trump was the first to cancel flights from China and now Europe. Our spineless yes men still have flights pouring in daily from all the world's virus hotspots.

    There's a thread on the US response already.

    This whole thing is revealing a strange and disturbing phenomena. Pro US posters who prefer Trump to their own politicians and who get upset at any criticism of their Dear Leader. The only thing he got right was the Chinese flights and that is because he is a bigot. He would clearly prefer the US to have not done any lockdowns, and it was the local politicians who stepped up to the plate on that.
    And it's outlandish to compare us to the US or most European countries. We are in a unique position as an island on the edge of Europe, so our figures *should* be a lot better than everywhere else, incl Denmark etc. If we are doing well, its despite our inept leadership, certainly not because of it

    What matters is the flights. Being an island is irrelevant in that case.

    As for comparing Europe with the US, that is correct, it is outlandish because Europe is far denser in population.


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    #9697
    bekker
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    OwlsZat wrote: »
    Israel has been treating the ICU deathbed patients with stem cells. The results are very impressive. The vast majority make a full recovery in a matter of weeks.
    Is this what you are referring to?

    'HAIFA, Israel, March 30, 2020 — Pluristem Therapeutics (PSTI), a leading regenerative medicine company developing a platform of novel biological therapeutic products, announced that since its last update on COVID-19, it has dosed three patients in two different hospitals in Israel under a compassionate use program for the treatment of COVID-19, as approved by the Israeli Ministry of Health. Pluristem expects to enroll additional patients in Israel in the coming days and anticipates providing updates on clinical outcomes once significant data has been gathered.

    All three treated patients are in a high-risk group based on age and preexisting conditions, have been experiencing severe respiratory failure, and intubation with a ventilator. Pluristem is closely following the medical condition of these patients in conjunction with the hospitals’ medical professionals delivering the care.'
    https://bioinformant.com/pluristem-covid19-treatment/
    April 2nd.

    It's hopeful, but experimental, as are many other analogous experimental projects, but as you say at present 'last resort' only.


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    #9698
    OwlsZat
    Registered Users Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭OwlsZat


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Full recovery? As in no long or other organ damage?

    AS in not dead from COVID 19 and discharged because no longer considered to be worth monitoring. China pretty much told others this was part of the required treatment regime. The same company has an agreement with a large German hospital to treat there but I've no idea if they've actually treated patients.


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    #9699
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    And we leave this thread with

    "Waterloo couldn't escape if I wanted to
    Waterloo knowing my fate is to be with you
    Oh, oh Waterloo finally facing my Waterloo"


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