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WFH Superthread

  • 19-10-2020 8:07am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    All aboard the Workout From Home Superthread!!!

    May be useful to have one thread to share resources on:

    equipment,
    workout plans,
    tips & advice.

    What may be particularly useful for others is to hear what worked well and not so well the last time the gyms closed.

    The following is a very good starting point for useful resources - https://www.reddit.com/r/naturalbodybuilding/comments/fivvhv/the_quarantine_workout_template/


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Off the cuff, but a few years ago I used to do a lot of backyard training heavily informed by the work of Dan John and Pavel Tsatsouline.

    At the time I had no gym membership and pretty much made it all happen with a selection of kettle bells and a pull-up bar.

    This way of training never lends itself to top end strength or serious mass gain, but you can still get quite 'strong' relatively speaking, and it can be varied and fun. You've got to be quite flexible in terms of set and rep schemes and accept that progression is going to be a little more subjective, and think of it more like just going out and getting a bit of work done in the back garden, getting a sweat on and hopefully getting in proximity to failure in at least a few movements.

    I used to take one movement from each of the following movement patterns and that was it for the day, and I'd train most days of the week. So one push, one pull, one squat, one hing and one 'other' movement. Precede with warm-up. Rep schemes and volume for the workout varied greatly depending on the difficulty of the exercise chosen. Sometimes I'd be doing 3 x 10, sometimes it would be 100-150 reps (Swings). Sometime's I'd superset, sometimes not. Sometimes circuit the whole lot, sometimes not. Carries were usually for time, I'd just go for 10 minutes and try to get something out of it. At the time I had a 16kg kettlebell, a 24kg and a 32kg, which is why this is kettlebell heavy and contains a lot of asymmetric work. But you could do all these movements with a dumbbell too.

    Push - Push up variation (Feet elevated, diamond push-up, slow tempo push-ups), kettlebell floor press, kettlebell overhead press, 'bottoms up' kettlebell press, kettlebell see-saw press, one sided kettblebell bench, handstand pushup (Maybe you'll have better luck than I did), low ring push up, ring dips

    Pull - Pull ups, weighted pulled ups (Feet hooking through kettlebell or wearing a pack with whatever in it), ring rows, feet elevated ring rows, bent over kettlebell row

    Squat - Air squats or goblet squats always, in the warm up if nothing else... Also goblet squats combining kettlebell curls at the bottom position, pistols, weighted pistols, bulgarian split squats, reverse lunges, skater squats, tabata squats

    Hinge - double handed kettlebell swing, one handed kettlebell swing, kettlebell snatch, american kettlebell swing, banded kettlebell swing

    Other - Turkish get-up, One sided farmers walk ... Suitcase carry, rack position, bottom-up position, waiter walk (overheard), sprints, shuttle runs, kettlebell complexes, kettlebell curls, ring curls, ring overhead tricep extensions

    You can train this way for a long, long time and from a health point of view get quite a lot out of it. Makes almost nostalgic for it, looking at the above. Particularly the Turkish get ups.

    I am familiar with techniques now that I would likely use to increase difficulty if needed. Once you can comfortably press your heaviest kettlebell for reps, for example, an option would be to press-exhaust before pressing with some one sided side delt raises using a band or whatever is to hand. Or if your horizontal pushing movement of choice was feeling too easy then pre-exaust with some sort of floor flye variation first. Another option would be the use rest / pause sets, to use ladder rep schemes and so on, or to play with the tempo of the reps.

    The above approach is quite heavily based on a "40 day" training program idea from Pavel and Dan. The original used at least a few barbell movements but a lot of people don't anymore.

    For Dan John ... His T-NATION articles and http://danjohn.net/
    For Pavel there's any number of interviews, sites etc and his organisational page - Strongfirst
    For kettlebells in general Jeff Martone, Steve Maxwell, Steve Cotter, Mike Mahler etc.
    Brooks Kubick and Ross Enamait are also worth looking at for the minimalist stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I used to incorporate the workouts from Dan John's 10,000 KB Swing Challenge, where you have 4 weeks of 500 swing workouts.


    1 round:
    Set 1: 10 reps
    Set 2: 15 reps
    Set 3: 25 reps
    Set 4: 50 reps

    Total of 5 rounds. It was just something different to add in and see how quickly I could do it.

    Don't know if I could be arsed now though. I just never took to kettlebells.


    As for last time around, the most weight I had was a 25kg sandbag so I just did a lot of single leg work; primarily lunges and Bulgarian split squats.

    I had a selection of bands so I used the heaviest one I had (orange 83mm band. I'd say there was maybe 110kg of resistance at the top. I found an old Argos bar I got maybe 10 years ago with a set (left the weights behind when I moved into the house) so I used that for RDLs. The major problem was that I was too far through the movement before any real resistance. So I got three thick A4 books (the first time I got any use out of Supple Leopard in some time...), used mini bands to hold them together and put them on the band like I was doing deficit pulls. It was actually ok but I don't think there was nearly enough resistance at the lower portion of the exercise so it felt a bit like doing high-rep rack pulls from the knee or thereabouts. I have a couple of 30kg DBs arriving today so that might actually work out better with the ROM and using a tempo.

    Same idea, without the books, for rows.

    I started off my pushing exercises just doing push ups with a red band. Then went to purple. All good. Got some push up handles so I could use a bigger ROM. Downloaded a metronome app (no idea why I never thought of that for tempo work before...saw Mike T use one and had a lightbulb moment) and used to do tempo push ups on the handles and push ups with a long (3s) pause at the bottom. I think that was the most effective work I did, not least because the load is lower on bench so you have a smaller weight difference to make up.

    I used the Argos bar with the purple and then on to the green band for OHP. Was awkward to set up - because I had to look one end around the middle of the bar and stand on the other end - but got a good burn off it.

    Got these handles for using with bands so I could do single-arm rows or OHPs. Also used them for flys: one each end of the band, band behind my back and just do the flys. Did reverse flys with them as well.

    I suppose what I found hardest was replicating the level of weight I wanted to for squat and deadlift since I essentially train for comps and to aim for PRs on them and that wasn't happening with what I had. But if you just want to train all the pieces of the puzzle, then I would say they were good.

    Besides, it's definitely always worthwhile doing single leg work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,665 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    One thing I regret last time round was not organising any kind of weighted squats , is there any convenient Woodies style sandbags that work, or buying a cheap cylinder shaped sports bag and filling it with sand? or would weight accessory shops have them?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    silverharp wrote: »
    One thing I regret last time round was not organising any kind of weighted squats , is there any convenient Woodies style sandbags that work, or buying a cheap cylinder shaped sports bag and filling it with sand? or would weight accessory shops have them?

    I've made sandbags in the past quite succesfully. Fill a black sack to required weight, triple bag it, then wrap the bejaysus out of it with duck tape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I had a proper sandbag because I wasn't arsed making one. 25kg. Billion-rep sets are zero craic and don't feel particularly challenging.

    Hence the move to single leg work


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    recommend ross enamait - never_gymless_ebook.
    Has a sample 50 day plan in there too - book is a only a euro.
    saw me through the last lockdown


    https://rosstraining.com/blog/




    his site also has guides to making homemade equipment which may be of use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Great idea for a thread.

    Most impressive source of knowledge I've come across for bodyweight/at home training is probably Ross Enamait. He has a great book called 'Never Gymless' that he's selling for $1 at the moment.

    https://www.instagram.com/rosstraining/

    https://rosstraining.com/blog/never-gymless/


    There's also Wendler's WALRUS training, which requires a weight vest if you want to try all the challenges. I'm sure for a beginner just using bodyweight would still be decently challenging. I have a vest which goes up to about 40kg, which makes me very happy.

    https://jimwendler.com/blogs/jimwendler-com/weight-vest-training-revisiting-the-walrus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    This thread could be really helpful for people that are newer to training and who have limited equipment and are not really sure how they could use it beyond one or two exercises.

    A lot of people might have bought a band or two, for example, but aren't really sure how many actual useful exercises they could do and could ask. And some of the posters that train people or who have gone through enough trial and error with similar equipment might be able to help out.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Back in the day there was a ton of Dragon Door publications that used to produce these kitsch and over-the-top books by Pavel Tsatsouline and others. But if you got past the hyperbole they had some great technical information and the programming was often very minimalist in flavour.

    A lot of them are available for free in PDF format if you search online. I'm not going to provide links but they're there as some of these books are really old at this stage.

    They may be of interest to anyone wanting to go the kettlebells and calisthenics route.

    Pavel Tsatsouline - ENTER THE KETTLEBELL. The original kettlebell craze book that popularised Pavel's hard style approach. Full of ridiculous descriptors like "develop a back that is as flexible and strong as a mutant's" but it's still a good book and details a bare bones few kettlebell-based programs suitable for home training. SIMPLE AND SINISTER is a much later book that's effectively his re-write, for his own company StrongFirst.

    Pavel Tsatsouline - THE NAKED WARRIOR. Bodyweight training, proposes a very minimalist approach and detailed instructions on how to achieve the pistol - one legged squat - and one armed pushup. The advice on getting pistols in here is still the best I've read.

    Al Kavlado - RAISING THE BAR and other books. Kavlado produced a lot of very easy to read books on bodyweight training / calisthenics that had good technical details and a lot of information on exercise choices. Where they tend to fall down is there's not much clear advice on programming.

    CONVICT CONDITIONING - Probably the most notorious of the Dragon Door publications. There is a question mark over whether the author exists or not, a lot of people believe they were written by someone such as the Publisher of Dragon Door. CONVICT CONDITIONING and its sequel proposes a bodyweight based approach to training that plays up the whole prison training thing. It has some good technical information nonetheless, and there is a really long term approach to programming that might appeal to someone who wants to try something radically different. The only criticism that a lot of people make of it is that it's very conservative, it has you building over a significant amount of time and begins with very modest prescriptions.

    None of the above is the optimum way to train but all very do-able at home, and might capture someone's imagination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Back in the day there was a ton of Dragon Door publications that used to produce these kitsch and over-the-top books by Pavel Tsatsouline and others. But if you got past the hyperbole they had some great technical information and the programming was often very minimalist in flavour.

    A lot of them are available for free in PDF format if you search online. I'm not going to provide links but they're there as some of these books are really old at this stage.

    They may be of interest to anyone wanting to go the kettlebells and calisthenics route.

    Pavel Tsatsouline - ENTER THE KETTLEBELL. The original kettlebell craze book that popularised Pavel's hard style approach. Full of ridiculous descriptors like "develop a back that is as flexible and strong as a mutant's" but it's still a good book and details a bare bones few kettlebell-based programs suitable for home training. SIMPLE AND SINISTER is a much later book that's effectively his re-write, for his own company StrongFirst.

    Pavel Tsatsouline - THE NAKED WARRIOR. Bodyweight training, proposes a very minimalist approach and detailed instructions on how to achieve the pistol - one legged squat - and one armed pushup. The advice on getting pistols in here is still the best I've read.

    Al Kavlado - RAISING THE BAR and other books. Kavlado produced a lot of very easy to read books on bodyweight training / calisthenics that had good technical details and a lot of information on exercise choices. Where they tend to fall down is there's not much clear advice on programming.

    CONVICT CONDITIONING - Probably the most notorious of the Dragon Door publications. There is a question mark over whether the author exists or not, a lot of people believe they were written by someone such as the Publisher of Dragon Door. CONVICT CONDITIONING and its sequel proposes a bodyweight based approach to training that plays up the whole prison training thing. It has some good technical information nonetheless, and there is a really long term approach to programming that might appeal to someone who wants to try something radically different. The only criticism that a lot of people make of it is that it's very conservative, it has you building over a significant amount of time and begins with very modest prescriptions.

    None of the above is the optimum way to train but all very do-able at home, and might capture someone's imagination.




    you brought back some memories there with the dragon door stuff.

    I still have them - I spent months trying out "relax into stretch" by pavel but sadly the splits were not to be no matter how i relaxed.


    convict condition was pretty decent but took ages and boredom kicks in but the whole mystic thing was bullsh1t . I was told the author was Tsatsouline himself.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    paw patrol wrote: »
    convict condition was pretty decent but took ages and boredom kicks in but the whole mystic thing was bullsh1t . I was told the author was Tsatsouline himself.

    The funniest thing about the whole "who is the author?" mystery around CONVICT CONDITIONING is that when too many people started asking questions, and wanting to meet 'Paul Wade', Dragon Door's answer was to announce that he had permanently moved to the United Kingdom... As if that was like a one way trip to Mars :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,598 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Simple and Sinister is a great program. A good answer to the fact most people over complicate training.
    I was doing S+S when gym was closed earlier this year. Still do it every so often as I want to get the targets.

    Dan John’s game changers are also good. Most require gym equipment but the loaded carry element doesn’t and is often neglected.

    So I combining the two above and you get some solid targets
    100 Swings (S+S)
    10 Get-Ups
    Overhead carry

    Work up to a heavy kB with that and you doing wel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    I did a simple time challenge today, all bodyweight.

    Squats x 10
    Mountain Climbers x 10
    Sit Ups x 10
    Push Ups x 10
    Rear Lunges (L+R) x 10

    Second round I did 9 of each, then 8 of each, then 7, 6, 5 etc. until no more to do.

    Set a timer, and see what time I can finish in. Easy way to work up a sweat. Then do it again tomorrow and see if I can beat it. I'll set up a few different circuits and see what's the best time I can do in each one by the end of the 6 weeks.

    Minimal space required, no equipment necessary beyond a mat of some sort, if even.


  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭JimmyCorkhill


    Hi,

    Can anyone recommend a pull-up bar for to put in a door frame? I am not sure if I would get away with putting it indoors and potentially damaging the door frames of one of the rooms, so I am thinking of getting one that would fit in the shed door and can be taken down when not using.

    The shed is concrete, the door opens outwards. I am thinking more along the lines of something that does not have a clamp as inside the shed had a shelve in the way where the clamp may go.

    I have attached pics of the shed door/frame to give some idea of what I am talking about.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    looking for 10kg weights anyone know of the best place to buy them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    I am hoping the 6 weeks stays at 6 weeks - I think this might help me more than the last time where there was no fixed end in sight. (Don't come near me in 6 weeks if it's extended :D)

    I found my motivation and effort really waned significantly as the weeks went on, so I am committing to 2 full body sessions a week, and telling myself it's 12 sessions, so commit to them all and make them count. Will put a list up on the wall and mark them off. Only have a couple of sets of DBs, a few bands and a couple of KBs, so bulgarian split squats will be back on the menu. Yay :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Thankfully I've a spin bike so will be ramping up the sessions on that a bit more to x4 a week probably.

    The mental piece is that hardest for me, outside of the gym, so hoping that mapping out the sessions helps a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The mental piece is that hardest for me, outside of the gym, so hoping that mapping out the sessions helps a bit.

    Having it mapped out will really help. If you tried to do 6 weeks in the gym, twice a week but just doing whatever, it would be hard to sustain as well.

    It really is a case of every time you do something and give it your all, you will be that bit closer to where you should be than if you did nothing.

    In some ways, when I've been in the depths of doing rehab type stuff, I continuously have to remind myself that while its boring, it gets me a step closer to where I want to be.


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    I am hoping the 6 weeks stays at 6 weeks - I think this might help me more than the last time where there was no fixed end in sight...
    I found my motivation and effort really waned significantly as the weeks went on, so I am committing to 2 full body sessions a week, and telling myself it's 12 sessions, so commit to them all and make them count. Will put a list up on the wall and mark them off...

    That's a really good idea caviardreams - thanks!
    I'm going to steal it and put a sheet up on the wall. I may even give myself gold stars :pac: And (hopefully) a giant night out at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    sky88 wrote: »
    looking for 10kg weights anyone know of the best place to buy them


    https://www.donedeal.ie/gymequipment?words=10kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    One of the hardest things to strengthen without free weights is the lower back. Deadlift was easily the lift that took the biggest hit for me over lockdown. But here’s a couple good vids I found with options for strengthening lower back:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9I1cmLf7_I

    This one requires bars:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMC4qSWYSE4


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    ^^ Brings up a good point. Since most people will likely be restricted to bebew8, it's a good opportunity to give some love to a lot of those areas that frankly we don't work enough.

    There are a load of exercises we could stand to do and would help us that don't need any weight. Stuff that you might use in a warm up ("a what?"). Dead bugs, supermans, side lying clams, hip abduction, hip bridges, etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Also, here's Big Z showing a load of exercises you can do with bands:



    Credit: BossArky who posted it in my log back during the first lockdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    The problem with working areas you don't usually work on is for the first 2 weeks of the lockdown, you'll be absolutely crippled as those muscles are summoned from a multi-year slumber :pac:

    I did single leg glute bridges on Wednesday. I would have thought I did sufficient glute work in the gym before that. Apparently not. I don't think I've ever been as vocal as I am today when having to sit down or stand up. I'd surrender any secret you wanted from me if it meant not having to attempt to sit on a hard toilet seat again today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The problem with working areas you don't usually work on is for the first 2 weeks of the lockdown, you'll be absolutely crippled as those muscles are summoned from a multi-year slumber :pac:

    I did single leg glute bridges on Wednesday. I would have thought I did sufficient glute work in the gym before that. Apparently not. I don't think I've ever been as vocal as I am today when having to sit down or stand up. I'd surrender any secret you wanted from me if it meant not having to attempt to sit on a hard toilet seat again today.

    Yup.

    I've been going to a physio and doing a lot of these especially around my hips, hamstrings and lower back and they are humbling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,665 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I do find it weird when you think you have muscles and you discover you don't, over the summer I was mostly doing a small number of the main compounds but lots of sets. then about 6 weeks ago added in a 1 leg landmine RDL which was killing my hams at the start and thought great have them covered. 2 weeks ago I added in some glute focused ones, gym has hip hinge machine and those glute kick back ones, first time I did the kick back ones I thought my hams were going to disconnect and seek asylum somewhere.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    silverharp wrote: »
    I do find it weird when you think you have muscles and you discover you don't, over the summer I was mostly doing a small number of the main compounds but lots of sets. then about 6 weeks ago added in a 1 leg landmine RDL which was killing my hams at the start and thought great have them covered. 2 weeks ago I added in some glute focused ones, gym has hip hinge machine and those glute kick back ones, first time I did the kick back ones I thought my hams were going to disconnect and seek asylum somewhere.

    It's really just focusing on a more isolated area than an RDL might. I have to disconnect smoke alarms when I'm doing my hip rehab exercises because my muscles get incinerated.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    If anyone's interested here's another option for a six week program that in equipment terms just requires a pull-up bar and sports watch.

    Quite a good synopsis of the programming on the site that gives a flavour of what's involved. It's six days a week, a mixture of body weight training, interval / shuttle runs and longer runs. Honestly, this would be such a good option for most people in terms of the variety involved and how it is scaled depending on starting level of ability.

    https://mtntactical.com/shop/bodyweight-foundation-training-plan/

    I really like Mountain Tactical's approach. They've been selling programming for a long time for people getting prepared for particular fitness tests (Often related to US fire fighting and military course entry, or deployments).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    First WFH session today with motivation at its highest I'm sure!

    A1: Pushups 15*4 sets
    A2: 16kg KB squats - 4*20

    B1: DB Bench press 12.5kg 15*4
    B2: DB Pendlay Row 12.5kg 15*4

    C1: DB RDL 12.5kg 15*4
    C2: DB OHP 8kg 15*4

    Finisher: 8kg Lateral raises, Curls, Skulls 8kg - 3 sets AMRAP

    I find it very annoying that with KB squats it's my upper body/back that fails a good bit before my legs - I just find holding a 16kg / 20kg KB really heavy after 10 reps or whatever. Frustrating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Do you hold it with the bell part below the handle or above?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94



    I find it very annoying that with KB squats it's my upper body/back that fails a good bit before my legs - I just find holding a 16kg / 20kg KB really heavy after 10 reps or whatever. Frustrating.

    You could do a split squat holding the kettlebell and challenge your legs a lot more.

    For anyone with a decent base of leg strength, goblet squat is really ineffective for taxing the legs and are better used as a conditioning exercise imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,598 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I find it very annoying that with KB squats it's my upper body/back that fails a good bit before my legs - I just find holding a 16kg / 20kg KB really heavy after 10 reps or whatever. Frustrating.

    How are you holding it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,665 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    with the bands I decided to take them to the park, some advantages, plenty of stable poles instead of potentially wrecking a door handle in the house. Can mix in with some laps and sprints so just gets you out and get a few other things done.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Do you hold it with the bell part below the handle or above?
    Mellor wrote: »
    How are you holding it?

    Thanks guys

    Upside down i.e. with my hands supporting the bell, but have tried with it upright using the handle too and it's even worse.

    Have also tried it in the front rack position, alternating sides too. I think I am just weak!
    Also I have competition kettlebells so they feel a lot bigger to grip than the black cast iron smaller ones.

    Will be doing split squats more I think as Cill suggested but still like to try and squat a bit to keep up the movement pattern and not get too rusty!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Yeah I did mostly single leg work last time but it is nice to just do some 'normal' squats from time to time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,598 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    What about letting it hang down?
    Like a hack squat. Load is the same for legs, but don’t have to use energy to hold it up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Mellor wrote: »
    What about letting it hang down?
    Like a hack squat. Load is the same for legs, but don’t have to use energy to hold it up.

    Oh that's a v nice idea - just googled a video - thanks! Will definitely try that.

    Also remembers last time I gave sumo squats a go with it hanging down at the front too, so that's an option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Obviously tempo and/or pauses as well if you're finding it a bit too easy to knock out a lot of reps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭Beau


    Has anyone tried the below or something similar?

    https://perpetua.ie/what-we-offer/perpetua-anywhere/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Great list of programmes by equipment here - taken from Cill94's newsletter, so thanks Cill!

    https://www.elitefts.com/education/home-gym-and-at-home-workouts/?fbclid=IwAR3TwgcXwDSnYZkM5bFmlXTzI4EVzmvzMuHlhNsxkQxSFMs7QwvmcYqgrO4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Beau wrote: »
    Has anyone tried the below or something similar?

    https://perpetua.ie/what-we-offer/perpetua-anywhere/

    Flyefit have a bank of online classes with their memberships now - so something similar without the nutritional piece. To be honest I think something like Les Mills on demand or free youtube workouts would be just as good but without a free sample video its hard to comment on Perpetua specifically.

    That said, I can definitely see the accountability attraction of the live workouts for sure - but they are pricey at €18 imo.

    Revfit have a really good option (closing this evening I think) where they send you a myzone belt and you can do the live workouts with others so there is a lot more coaching / accountability involved. This I can definitely see the value of.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Great list of programmes by equipment here - taken from Cill94's newsletter, so thanks Cill!

    https://www.elitefts.com/education/home-gym-and-at-home-workouts/?fbclid=IwAR3TwgcXwDSnYZkM5bFmlXTzI4EVzmvzMuHlhNsxkQxSFMs7QwvmcYqgrO4

    :) Enjoy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    €18 for a remote video class is absolute hilarity, but would expect anything else from Perpetua?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    How is everyone's WFH experience going?

    Great to see a burst of activity over the past week. Lots out running, and making the most of the parks and playgrounds to get in some movement.

    Any observations or tips from your own experience to share?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    It's been ok so far. I've had to have a Plan B for some of the lower body stuff because the higher volume bothers my hip so I have to test certain movements out and see how they feel and either modify or change them. Primarily for the squat/hip hinge movements.

    Want to get the 45kg slam ball out later if I can. I go to a spot near home to do it but not sure if there will be enough light there later.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Beau wrote: »
    Has anyone tried the below or something similar?

    https://perpetua.ie/what-we-offer/perpetua-anywhere/

    20 euros a month would be in line with a lot of other online streaming or group coaching sites are offering. You can get whatever you like these days, every flavour of yoga, lifting, lifting etc. I pay something similar for weekly programming and some limited coaching.

    A lot of zoom-based classes going on right now as well from other bricks and mortar gyms.

    But can’t understand why it would make sense to pay 18 euros a go for a live class too?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Patsy167 wrote: »
    How is everyone's WFH experience going?

    Great to see a burst of activity over the past week. Lots out running, and making the most of the parks and playgrounds to get in some movement.

    Any observations or tips from your own experience to share?

    I put in a gym in the shed the day before lockdown 1 so if I’m sickeningly honest I am pretty insulated from all the madness.

    For anyone interested in doing similar, I noticed Strength Shop has pre orders for their basic 2028 bar and budget power bar.

    2028 pre order is here https://www.strengthshop.ie/olympic-bar.html

    I’ve used a 2028 bar (and it’s predecessors). No frills but better “value” than a lot of other lower end barbells, or even mid range branded (but still China imported) barbells where you pay more for questionable reasons.


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    Patsy167 wrote: »
    How is everyone's WFH experience going?

    Great to see a burst of activity over the past week. Lots out running, and making the most of the parks and playgrounds to get in some movement.

    Any observations or tips from your own experience to share?

    Going ok here too. I'm trying to do little and often to keep in the groove as opposed to my natural inclination for monster workouts that leave me happy exhausted but unable to train at all the next day.
    Ticking off sessions as part of a 6 week block is helping. After that - it'll be another replan I guess!


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭sonandheir


    I have no equipment, and never learned from the first lockdown. Didn't mind in the spring as just did loads of running.

    But now I'm caught again with no equipment. The last week I have been using household furniture(tables, lifting couches, heavy chairs). It is turning out to be a very good work out just hauling this stuff around and lifting it.
    Kinda like what I heard referred to as 'functional strength'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    sonandheir wrote: »
    I have no equipment, and never learned from the first lockdown. Didn't mind in the spring as just did loads of running.

    But now I'm caught again with no equipment. The last week I have been using household furniture(tables, lifting couches, heavy chairs). It is turning out to be a very good work out just hauling this stuff around and lifting it.
    Kinda like what I heard referred to as 'functional strength'.

    I spotted two crowd control barriers on a footpath and use these for dips. I'm using a bus shelter for pull ups. Gotta get it done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,607 ✭✭✭caviardreams



    When I read that I thought, "Jaysus, that's some lead time, I was hoping covid would be well gone by 2028!"


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