Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

fricatus · 15-11-2020 3:46pm

H'on de Déise... if we don't win today, at least we'll have been shown our weaknesses and can address them in the quarter finals. Pressure's off because we're not expecting to win, but at the same time these young guys don't seem to have any problem with self doubt! Hoping for a really good showing anyway, you never know!

15-11-2020 5:00pm

Jesus,what id give to be there

Fcuk coronavirus.....great to see us in a munster final.however....my first to watch at home since 1998

PTH2009 · 15-11-2020 5:02pm

come on waterford

JeffKenna · 15-11-2020 5:05pm

Some point.

awaywithyou · 15-11-2020 5:09pm

I noticed Shane Bennett is not involved with Waterford.... I know he dropped out during Derek McGraths time.... what’s the story?

JohnGreenFan · 15-11-2020 5:41pm

Not a bad result at half time! Good to see Waterford putting it up to Limerick but will need more in this half, especially playing against the breeze. Cmon the Deise!!

Jjjjjjjjbarry · 15-11-2020 5:45pm

Good effort so far. Need to stop those balls into Gillane but easier said than done!

friendlyfun · 15-11-2020 5:45pm

Tadgh De Burca is some tank of a fella

PTH2009 · 15-11-2020 5:46pm

Happy enough but Limerick never seem to bloody miss when they get the chance

We need a good start for the 2nd half. That's the time Limerick start too punish

killbillvol2 · 15-11-2020 5:50pm

We'll need goals to win it and it's hard to see where they'll come from. Fingers crossed though!

garv123 · 15-11-2020 6:11pm

Who's meant to be playing midfield with barron??

Jjjjjjjjbarry · 15-11-2020 6:15pm

Need to start fast after this water break. A quick goal would be nice!!

Stacksofwacks · 15-11-2020 6:39pm

Good showing, if we get Clare in QF I'd fancy us and then have a crack off KK in semi final

PTH2009 · 15-11-2020 6:42pm

Very proud of the lads, we died with our boots on .I'd take Clare over Tipperary but its luck of the draw

skaface · 15-11-2020 6:43pm

Good performance, we'll learn from these games

garv123 · 15-11-2020 6:46pm

Great performance, shame dessie got no ball played into him. Must of only had 2 touches?

Asdfgh2020 · 15-11-2020 6:49pm

skaface wrote: »

Good performance, we'll learn from these games

It was Definitely the limerick white board at the ‘sos uisce’ that gave them the edge in the end......despite Marty and Duignan adoration during the first half Re the rapid hand passing etc they are not unbeatable.....very good performance by Waterford particularly taking into account the wind advantage LK had in 2nd half and the 20pt plus bearings we got of them last year

PTH2009 · 15-11-2020 6:52pm

Need to sort the puckouts

Wasant Aussies day and hopefully he learns from this, if he pulls a strop i can't seen Cahill taking it

awaywithyou · 15-11-2020 6:53pm

Asdfgh2020 wrote: »

It was Definitely the limerick white board at the ‘sos uisce’ that gave them the edge in the end......despite Marty and Duignan adoration during the first half Re the rapid hand passing etc they are not unbeatable.....very good performance by Waterford particularly taking into account the wind advantage LK had in 2nd half and the 20pt plus bearings we got of them last year

Taking off Jack Fagan a major turning point for me... Waterford forwards lost their shape and direction when he went off... I’d say Stephen Bennett who had been so influential didn’t score anymore after Fagan went off... and Limericks half back line came the game into big time.... after being under serious pressure for most of the match

Micky Bluenips · 15-11-2020 7:00pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Need to sort the puckouts

Wasant Aussies day and hopefully he learns from this, if he pulls a strop i can't seen Cahill taking it

If he pulls a strop Cahill shouldn't take it why would he? If Aussie had any hurling brains he could be running the show like Tony Kelly does. Good team performance though in fairness to them. The ball Limerick give in to Gillane and mulcahy is the the type of ball we need to give to dessie.

Jjjjjjjjbarry · 15-11-2020 7:43pm

Good effort today. Serious work rate. Most of us probably would have taken a performance like that a few hours ago but now feel disappointed that we couldn’t get over the line. The water breaks didn’t help us at all. One thing that hasn’t changed under Cahill is that we’re still very reliant on Bennett who seems to be able to always work himself into the game. He hit some great frees today and kept the scores coming. Big improvement though and Jack P was again excellent.

One crucial moment I think was when Bennett was through the middle and Aussie made a great run and Bennett just gave the pass a little too late. I’m sure Aussie could have stuck a goal if he’d got it earlier. Fine margins.

Stopitwillya · 15-11-2020 7:51pm

Why all the posts about Aussie pulling a strop. Sure not everything went for him today but he still chipped in with 3 points and gave his all.

Great attitude and effort from everyone today. One of two more scoring forwards and we would be serious contenders.

Micky Bluenips · 15-11-2020 7:56pm

Stopitwillya wrote: »

Why all the posts about Aussie pulling a strop. Sure not everything went for him today but he still chipped in with 3 points and gave his all.

Great attitude and effort from everyone today. One of two more scoring forwards and we would be serious contenders.

Lad above mentioned strop i just replied to that I didn't say he had strop. Got 3 points anonymous otherwise. He Just needs to read game better in my opinion and get on more ball in space.

mountgomery burns · 15-11-2020 8:01pm

Micky Bluenips wrote: »

Lad above mentioned strop i just replied to that I didn't say he had strop. Got 3 points anonymous otherwise. He Just needs to read game better in my opinion and get on more ball in space.

If the rest of the forwards got 3 points from play we'd have won it well.

Alf Tupper · 15-11-2020 8:04pm

Micky Bluenips wrote: »

If he pulls a strop Cahill shouldn't take it why would he? If Aussie had any hurling brains he could be running the show like Tony Kelly does. Good team performance though in fairness to them. The ball Limerick give in to Gillane and mulcahy is the the type of ball we need to give to dessie.

Gillane, Mulcahy and Casey can win ball anyway you give it into them.

Dessie can't. He was anonymous today for the most part. He got three beautiful angled balls and was muscled out of two of them. he got a great point from one.

He's needs to work harder, hooking and blocking and go looking like Mulcahy and Casey.

Cant't believe he stayed on the pitch. Cahill won't be so indulgent again. All the other lads worked their arse off.

Micky Bluenips · 15-11-2020 8:10pm

mountgomery burns wrote: »

If the rest of the forwards got 3 points from play we'd have won it well.

Your dead right boy.

mountgomery burns · 15-11-2020 8:15pm

Alf Tupper wrote: »

Gillane, Mulcahy and Casey can win ball anyway you give it into them.

Dessie can't. He was anonymous today for the most part. He got three beautiful angled balls and was muscled out of two of them. he got a great point from one.

He's needs to work harder, hooking and blocking and go looking like Mulcahy and Casey.

Cant't believe he stayed on the pitch. Cahill won't be so indulgent again. All the other lads worked their arse off.

Winter hurling not going to suit him, the difference with Limerick is they have three lads all a major threat. We only have one true inside forward.

Very harsh on a lad playing his second championship match.

15-11-2020 8:25pm

We pushed,what is regarded as the best team around to pin of their collar for 58 to 60 mins and had them in uneasy ground....if we had better forwards to get a 5 point lead etc,seems to me,they would panic and were beginning to make all sorts of bad decisions and handling errors already

Add likes of shane bennett,pauirc mahony,mikey kiely,aaron ryan etc to that team,

I honestly believe we have a massive chance of seeing a waterford man lift the liam mccarthy,next augest

A limerick v galway all ireland semi,will be.a massive battle.....this championship is still wide open for an outsider to make the final

Jjjjjjjjbarry · 15-11-2020 8:26pm

Dessie was being marked by a lad who won all stars in 2018 and 2019. Give him a break. He got poor service and comparing him to Gillane is a bit much! Even John Mullane needed the right ball.

PF28 · 15-11-2020 8:31pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Need to sort the puckouts

Wasant Aussies day and hopefully he learns from this, if he pulls a strop i can't seen Cahill taking it

Will you get out of your Walter Mitty head and stop talking absolute sh**te. Austin Gleeson didn't come near pulling any strop, and walked off the pitch when he was substituted clearly with no problems. Where you get and make up this crap from in your head is dangerous.
The man scored three points and if had a set position would have had a lot more.

Well done Austin.
Great "team" performance from every single Waterford man out on that pitch today.

JD 60 · 15-11-2020 8:32pm

Barron couldn’t get going at all ; not like him. Thought Stephen Bennett was immense and likewise, TdB at the back (ably assisted by McNulty).

Same old failing of not being able to win ball in the air in the forwards.

Strange that neither keeper had a shot to save.

PTH2009 · 15-11-2020 8:49pm

Could be some battle on the field and sideline if we draw Tipperary , Cahill and Beavens are doing a great job with us and no doubt we will see them with Tipperary in the future. Clare will be playing there 3rd week in a row next weekend.

Saying that we still have to be at our very best

blueflame · 15-11-2020 8:51pm

Liam Cahill is only in the job six months all told and got more out of these lads today than previous management did in 5 years - we went up against a more experienced and developed side and didn’t hide and with a bit of luck in the opposition box the result could have been very different - small margins - very proud today and look forward to next day out - pride was restored to Waterford hurling today but don’t think will be enough for Cahill - need to keep him in the job for the next two years at least

PTH2009 · 15-11-2020 8:58pm

blueflame wrote: »

Liam Cahill is only in the job six months all told and got more out of these lads today than previous management did in 5 years - we went up against a more experienced and developed side and didn’t hide and with a bit of luck in the opposition box the result could have been very different - small margins - very proud today and look forward to next day out - pride was restored to Waterford hurling today but don’t think will be enough for Cahill - need to keep him in the job for the next two years at least

Cahill's term is up the end of the 2021 season with the option of staying on for 2022. Hes deff moving up the pecking order to succeed Liam Sheedy in Tipp and that might some barring on his commitments here esp if the Tipp hot seat becomes vacant

Hell wouldn't be a bad thing if one of this backroom team took over after him. Stephen Molumphy or Stephen Frampton

Deise_abu · 15-11-2020 8:58pm

PF28 wrote: »

Will you get out of your Walter Mitty head and stop talking absolute sh**te. Austin Gleeson didn't come near pulling any strop, and walked off the pitch when he was substituted clearly with no problems. Where you get and make up this crap from in your head is dangerous.
The man scored three points and if had a set position would have had a lot more.

Well done Austin.
Great "team" performance from every single Waterford man out on that pitch today.

Exactly, why are people not looking at how Limerick targeted Aussie to stop him winning primary possesion? We have to be able to switch it up, easy mark Aussie when contesting set pieces if thats where they go the majority of the time, when he was FF dont think 1 50/50 ball was even hit in. Bennet was immense however when he was winning ball he was rightly taking scores not trying to hit good ball into the FF line, look at the amount.of ball Dessie got

Positive performance but lose the next day and its hard to take, as we can point to progress however nothing significant, beating a poor Cork team and putting it up to Limerick

Stopitwillya · 15-11-2020 9:03pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Hell wouldn't be a bad thing if one of this backroom team took over after him. Stephen Molumphy or Stephen Frampton

Neither have any experience being a manager.

JohnGreenFan · 15-11-2020 9:17pm

Lads if you told me last week that we'd put it up to Limerick like that I'd been absolutely delighted! I remember being in Walsh park last year when Limerick annihilated us. We've come an awful long way since that defeat and today's loss will make the lads hungry for next week. Absolutely buzzing for it. I'd fancy us to put it up to any team in the quarter finals!

Bennett was absolutely fantastic today, Tadhg De Burca had a great match, stupid tackle for the yellow card aside. Dessie was marked within an inch of his life, Shane Finn had some game marking him. There were definitely some moments where we should have passed off the ball just a few seconds earlier, and the amount of our own puckouts we lost is a serious problem. But they're all things to work on and I was delighted with the work rage and effort by the team today. Onwards and upwards for the Deise

awaywithyou · 15-11-2020 9:20pm

awaywithyou wrote: »

I noticed Shane Bennett is not involved with Waterford.... I know he dropped out during Derek McGraths time.... what’s the story?

Anyone???

whiteandblue · 15-11-2020 9:23pm

Considering how many of the players didn't play to their potential, there's hope going forward in to a 1/4 final, no matter who we face. There was no lack of effort but I definitely think there is more in Lyons, Moran, Barron, Gleeson, Fagan, Hutchison & K Bennett. I'm not criticising as they all gave their all but things didn't go as well for them as maybe they would have, they have scope for improvement going forward.

The aspect of the Waterford game with most scope for improvement is our puckouts. Only winning 46% of these isn't good enough as primary position is key as we all know, you can only score when you have the ball. I would pick out SOK's inaccuracy for a few but it is also up to those out the field to win the ball when it's delivered to their zone. It seemed Limerick won most of the rucks, particularly 3 key ones in the 1st half that Morrissey (2) & Finn came out with.

We go again next weekend and look forward to it.

Deise_abu · 15-11-2020 9:24pm

awaywithyou wrote: »

Anyone???

He was a minor at 16, in fainess he put in a massive shift, I believe he wanted a break, maybe he is enjoying it, pity but fair play to him, a bit like Tom Devine would have loved to introduce them like Flanagan today

Jjjjjjjjbarry · 15-11-2020 9:24pm

awaywithyou wrote: »

Anyone???

Made himself unavailable again this year.

15-11-2020 9:33pm

awaywithyou wrote: »

Anyone???

He was due to be away to america this year for the summer....but coronavirus got in the way,trump banned eu citizens in mid march

spaceCreated · 15-11-2020 9:36pm

Think saying Waterford are a hard working team is doing them an injustice, they were the better team today excluding the puck outs. Think we broke down Limerick twice and they were on the ropes, got the "water break" and were able to re-organise themselves with 2-3 minutes of coaching and used the energy gained to put scores on the board. I think the score at the end didn't reflect the match, we went for goals which made the most sense near the end and got unlucky not to get something.

This team will have no fear of Limerick or anyone else, they clearly showed they have bags of talent and ability. They're not just a bunch of watercarriers and every game will stand to them.

Mastermcgrath · 15-11-2020 10:14pm

Deise_abu wrote: »

He was a minor at 16, in fainess he put in a massive shift, I believe he wanted a break, maybe he is enjoying it, pity but fair play to him, a bit like Tom Devine would have loved to introduce them like Flanagan today

Absolutely burnt out. Played co minor at u16 as you say and then came straight on the senior panel after minor. McGrath flogged like him like a tinkers horse for 5 years, alone in the full forward line chasing shadows. If I’m not mistaken he hasn’t played for Waterford since 2017 AI final when he came off the injured after 20 mins. Not surprised he was sick of it

mountgomery burns · 15-11-2020 10:27pm

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Absolutely burnt out. Played co minor at u16 as you say and then came straight on the senior panel after minor. McGrath flogged like him like a tinkers horse for 5 years, alone in the full forward line chasing shadows. If I’m not mistaken he hasn’t played for Waterford since 2017 AI final when he came off the injured after 20 mins. Not surprised he was sick of it

He played all last year

PTH2009 · 15-11-2020 10:29pm

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Absolutely burnt out. Played co minor at u16 as you say and then came straight on the senior panel after minor. McGrath flogged like him like a tinkers horse for 5 years, alone in the full forward line chasing shadows. If I’m not mistaken he hasn’t played for Waterford since 2017 AI final when he came off the injured after 20 mins. Not surprised he was sick of it

He played a few games in the mess that was our 2019 campaign

How come Limerick were allowed have there white board out during the water breaks

Tiger Roll · 15-11-2020 10:58pm

Hoping Shane Fives is ok ,looked bad enough . Ian Kenny to start next week or maybe Callum Lyons dropping back ?

TheScoringGoal · 15-11-2020 11:06pm

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Absolutely burnt out. Played co minor at u16 as you say and then came straight on the senior panel after minor. McGrath flogged like him like a tinkers horse for 5 years, alone in the full forward line chasing shadows. If I’m not mistaken he hasn’t played for Waterford since 2017 AI final when he came off the injured after 20 mins. Not surprised he was sick of it

Aside from playing all of last year, he played his first championship game against Dublin in 2015 so was not "flogged" for 5 years.

TheScoringGoal · 15-11-2020 11:10pm

Tiger Roll wrote: »

Hoping Shane Fives is ok ,looked bad enough . Ian Kenny to start next week or maybe Callum Lyons dropping back ?

Will probably depend on how Conor Gleeson and Iarla Daly recover from their injuries too.

Cake Man · 15-11-2020 11:16pm

Great effort from the lads, just fell that bit short but plenty of positives to take away and build on. Even though I'm a bit disappointed to have lost, I'd much rather this feeling than one of the humiliation suffered after Limerick last year. When we nudged a point ahead around the 55th minute things looked to be going really well but fair play to Limerick they were just able to step it up a bit and find scores that bit easier in the last quarter that put them out of sight.

As a previous poster mentioned, it's also encouraging that we managed to do so well and get so close to arguably the best team in the country despite a few lads having quiet games. Aussie, Moran, Fagan, Barron had a few good moments but you wouldn't say they were hugely involved throughout. That's by no means a criticism, just making the point that if we can get a bit more out of a few more, we'll be right in the mix next Saturday.

Onwards to next weekend then, you'd have to say we'd rather get Clare than Tipp. Tadgh v Tony Kelly would be some battle and with Clare being out three weeks in a row may have some affect. In saying that, we'd have no fear of Tipp either. Would imagine if it's Clare it'll be Thurles again and if Tipp, it'll be PUC or Nowlan Park?

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