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  • #652
    sundodger5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭sundodger5


    So i have the M4 system on the way as my own setup seems to need almost daily restarts. Question for the more advanced network gurus.
    I have a TP link WDR3600 as main router. This has a couple of hard drives connected for NAS. I run a wired connection to another older router beside the main PC. This acts as wireless access and the main PC is wired to this. I run a third router which is wirelessly bridged as no cable that side of the house.
    I have some home automation running and most devices have static IPs.
    Question is should i let the M4 setup just handle wireless? Or let M4 be main router and use the WDR3600 just for extra ports and NAS?
    Thanks.


  • #653
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Amazon has the Eero 3 pack down to £149.50 (reduced by 99) I think there is a new version coming soon or already out. But this does seem pretty solid too.

    I've just ordered this to change out my Tenka MW6.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/eero-mesh-wi-fi-system-3-pack/dp/B07WHMJ6XN/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eero&qid=1601386793&sr=8-1


  • #654
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Hi all.
    Looking for a small bit of help.
    My house is set up in the following way.
    Both my main PCs are directly wired to the VM router through ethernet-with other devices connected through ethernet xbox one,sky box etc

    All my other devices used to connect to the same VM router using its built in wifi but the wifi was useless - less than 5mb in every room as the house is a 70s build with solid concrete internal walls!!

    I just put in a mesh system last week and the difference is night and day - almost 100 meg in every room through the mesh wifi.

    Now my issue - the main VM router gives out IP addresses in the range 192.168.1.xxx

    The mesh wifi gives out IP addresses in the range 192.168.0.xxx

    My problem is that I cant stream to any devices on the mesh wifi network - If I allow the device to connect to the old router wifi then streaming will work.
    So I cant stream a movie from my PC(hardwired) to a Laptop (mesh wifi) - they can see each other on the network - obviously due to the IPs not being in teh same range.

    Is there a work around or am I just missing something here when I did the initial setup?


  • #655
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Hi all.
    Looking for a small bit of help.
    My house is set up in the following way.
    Both my main PCs are directly wired to the VM router through ethernet-with other devices connected through ethernet xbox one,sky box etc

    All my other devices used to connect to the same VM router using its built in wifi but the wifi was useless - less than 5mb in every room as the house is a 70s build with solid concrete internal walls!!

    I just put in a mesh system last week and the difference is night and day - almost 100 meg in every room through the mesh wifi.

    Now my issue - the main VM router gives out IP addresses in the range 192.168.1.xxx

    The mesh wifi gives out IP addresses in the range 192.168.0.xxx

    My problem is that I cant stream to any devices on the mesh wifi network - If I allow the device to connect to the old router wifi then streaming will work.
    So I cant stream a movie from my PC(hardwired) to a Laptop (mesh wifi) - they can see each other on the network - obviously due to the IPs not being in teh same range.

    Is there a work around or am I just missing something here when I did the initial setup?

    You have 2 subnets, 2 networks and double NAT. You really need one. Either bridge the VM router or set the mesh in AP mode


  • #656
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    You have 2 subnets, 2 networks and double NAT. You really need one. Either bridge the VM router or set the mesh in AP mode

    Router is an old Cisco epc3925 that I wont give up as it just works - How do you put it into bridge mode?

    Or if I have to use AP mode on the mesh will I loose any speed?


  • #657
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Router is an old Cisco epc3925 that I wont give up as it just works - How do you put it into bridge mode?

    You'll have to Google it, I have no idea, every router is different


  • #658
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Router is an old Cisco epc3925 that I wont give up as it just works - How do you put it into bridge mode?

    Boards is your friend :D:D:D https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2056758726

    Once you get the mesh setup the ISP router won't matter as you'll just be using it to get to the internet everything else will be handled by the mesh.


  • #659
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Clareman wrote: »
    Boards is your friend :D:D:D https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2056758726

    Once you get the mesh setup the ISP router won't matter as you'll just be using it to get to the internet everything else will be handled by the mesh.

    Will ethernet direct to the router still work?


  • #660
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Will ethernet direct to the router still work?

    Not if it's a bridge, only the single connection to your mesh will work


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  • #661
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Im getting confused now.
    If I put the ISP router into bridge mode then the PCs that are connected directly to the router will have no connection?
    The wifi mesh I bought doesnt do AP mode from what I can remember.

    Anything here in the manual help ?

    https://static.mercusys.com/manual/1910080045_Halo_S12_UG_REV1.0.020191227055946.pdf


  • #662
    garo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    Don't put the ISP router in bridge mode. Mesh networks typically don't have full fuctionality that a router provides. Just put your mesh net in AP mode so it stop issuing IP addresses and just passes those requests on to the router.

    Edit: Disable the DHCP server on you mesh. Section 5.2 of the manual.


  • #663
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Personally I didn't bother putting my router into bridge mode. What I've done is disabled WiFi on the ISP router, left DHCP on the router, connected the mesh to the ISP router, a small hub for wired stuff (alarm, Hue, powerline) and everything just works, everything sees each other and can communicated. I did have a problem with my laptop not seeing my server and I spend AGES configuring firewalls, permissions and loads of other ****e, turned out the laptop was on the guess network and the server on the main network, once I sorted that everything was sorted.

    I would consider myself fairly competent when it comes to networking and IT stuff but I haven't had to bother with anything with the google mesh, it just works, can't describe is any other way, it just works.


  • #664
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    With the 22% off and the positive reports I took the plunge and bought the Google Nest router plus point. Will set it up at the weekend.

    Even with the Wizard firmware I found Asus mesh to be just ok. Hoping this is an improvement.


  • #665
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    garo wrote: »
    Don't put the ISP router in bridge mode. Mesh networks typically don't have full fuctionality that a router provides. Just put your mesh net in AP mode so it stop issuing IP addresses and just passes those requests on to the router.

    Edit: Disable the DHCP server on you mesh. Section 5.2 of the manual.

    So in the Mesh settings what do I put as the dhcp server?Is it the IP of the virgin router?


  • #666
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    garo wrote: »
    Don't put the ISP router in bridge mode. Mesh networks typically don't have full fuctionality that a router provides. Just put your mesh net in AP mode so it stop issuing IP addresses and just passes those requests on to the router.

    Edit: Disable the DHCP server on you mesh. Section 5.2 of the manual.

    I put my VM hub into bridge mode and have 3 Deco M4 working flawlessly throughout the house, all throwing out max speeds. I installed a switch at the back of the hub and that took care of my existing wired devices. Using the M4 in access point mode takes away some of the additional controls in the app as far as I know. I’m using these since mid July and haven’t had a single WiFi dropout or and issues with any device since.

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  • #667
    garo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    So in the Mesh settings what do I put as the dhcp server?Is it the IP of the virgin router?

    Sorry I didn’t realise you have a Virgin router. Didn’t read your original post carefully. As Aquos76 said best to put the Virgin router in bridge mode. Contact Virgin first and ask them to give you a fixed IPv4 address. The DS-Lite IPv6 doesn’t work very well with bridge mode. Then go to the virgin configuration and set it to bridge mode and Wi-Fi off. Do not connect anything directly to the Virgin router other than your mesh router. So connect your PCs to the mesh router.


  • #668
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    garo wrote: »
    Sorry I didn’t realise you have a Virgin router. Didn’t read your original post carefully. As Aquos76 said best to put the Virgin router in bridge mode. Contact Virgin first and ask them to give you a fixed IPv4 address. The DS-Lite IPv6 doesn’t work very well with bridge mode. Then go to the virgin configuration and set it to bridge mode and Wi-Fi off. Do not connect anything directly to the Virgin router other than your mesh router. So connect your PCs to the mesh router.

    I dont have a mesh router...The mesh system came with 3 mesh devices. One is attached to the Virgin router via ethernet and then the other 2 are paired to that first one.

    My 2 pcs are directly wired to the Virgin router giving me full speed 250mb down.

    I only put the mesh in because the virgin wifi was so flakey and to be honest it works amazingly - from between 2-5mb to almost 100mb in every room on wireless mesh now.

    Im not even really bothered about the streaming but its one of those things that Im sure theres a workaround for. Its annoying me more than anything.


  • #669
    garo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    Yes you do. Read the pdf you linked. It clearly uses the term mesh router.

    What you seem to want is to put your mesh system in AP mode. I didn't find anything in that document on how you could do that. Only did a quick scan. In AP mode the mesh system/router won't be handing out any IP addresses, doing any routing and just doing the wifi bit. If you find a way to do it, great.

    If not, your only other option is to put the VM router in bridge mode and use your Mercusys system as a router.


    Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5HKqab_Y7M This looks like instruction to put your Mercusys into AP/Wifi extender only mode.


  • #670
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    garo wrote: »
    Yes you do. Read the pdf you linked. It clearly uses the term mesh router.


    Ah ok I get you now. The individual "cubes" can act as routers?
    What you seem to want is to put your mesh system in AP mode. I didn't find anything in that document on how you could do that. Only did a quick scan. In AP mode the mesh system/router won't be handing out any IP addresses, doing any routing and just doing the wifi bit. If you find a way to do it, great.
    .

    I think thats what I need to do ie stop the mesh system giving out a different range of IPs
    If not, your only other option is to put the VM router in bridge mode and use your Mercusys system as a router.

    Only problem there is the ethernet ports are limited to 100mbps.
    Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5HKqab_Y7M This looks like instruction to put your Mercusys into AP/Wifi extender only mode.

    Ill look at this when I get home.

    I really appreciate the help.


  • #671
    bobbyg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭bobbyg


    mik_da_man wrote: »
    Yeah, that's what I have been reading, along with the double NAT issues the Sky Q boxes create their own mesh that can conflict with a new mesh if you set it up.

    My M4 is due to arrive tomorrow so I will test it with the Sky broadband and Sky Q but I suspect based on what you have said I am going to have issues. Do you know if I switch to Eir Broadband and keep Sky Q if I will still have the same issues with Sky Q? Sorry if this is a stupid question this is all new to me.


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  • #672
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Looking to get better signal into a back bedroom. Old house, not too big, but solid walls and the Uniquiti Unifi AS AS Pro I bought about 3 years ago doesn't quite do the job - seems to have good signal at times, and then drops to very poor. Any suggestions welcome for how to "tune" it. It's not doing DHCP, just an access point.

    Started looking at mesh systems. We're a google/android house, so was interested in the Nest Wifi. The cabinet where my Virgin broadband comes into has some ethernet connected devices: my amp, printer, hue bridge etc. How many ethernet ports does the nest have? I suppose I would need to get a switch if it only has one.


  • #673
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    Looking to get better signal into a back bedroom. Old house, not too big, but solid walls and the Uniquiti Unifi AS AS Pro I bought about 3 years ago doesn't quite do the job - seems to have good signal at times, and then drops to very poor. Any suggestions welcome for how to "tune" it. It's not doing DHCP, just an access point.

    Started looking at mesh systems. We're a google/android house, so was interested in the Nest Wifi. The cabinet where my Virgin broadband comes into has some ethernet connected devices: my amp, printer, hue bridge etc. How many ethernet ports does the nest have? I suppose I would need to get a switch if it only has one.

    Just get another Ubiquiti Unifi lite and run a cable to closer to the area. It's pointless dumping a Ubiquiti AP system for mesh, just expand it


  • #674
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    Just get another Ubiquiti Unifi lite and run a cable to closer to the area. It's pointless dumping a Ubiquiti AP system for mesh, just expand it

    Not an easy option with my house set up to run a cable, if I'm right in understanding what you're saying, the lite would need to be wired back to the router/switch?


  • #675
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    Not an easy option with my house set up to run a cable, if I'm right in understanding what you're saying, the lite would need to be wired back to the router/switch?

    Or to the original ap if it's one with a lan port. If you have solid obstacles like walls blocking your wireless signal mesh will not be the answer for you


  • #676
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    Or to the original ap if it's one with a lan port. If you have solid obstacles like walls blocking your wireless signal mesh will not be the answer for you

    Thanks. I just had a look and it has an ethernet port on it with "secondary" printed on it, so sounds like it. I might need to get the drill out to run a cable from the primary through to the hall or somewhere closer to the back room....


  • #677
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    Thanks. I just had a look and it has an ethernet port on it with "secondary" printed on it, so sounds like it. I might need to get the drill out to run a cable from the primary through to the hall or somewhere closer to the back room....

    Don't forget you'll need to plan power, the Ubiquiti will come with a poe adapter


  • #678
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    Thanks. I just had a look and it has an ethernet port on it with "secondary" printed on it, so sounds like it. I might need to get the drill out to run a cable from the primary through to the hall or somewhere closer to the back room....

    Don't forget you'll need to plan power, the Ubiquiti will come with a poe adapter


  • #679
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    Don't forget you'll need to plan power, the Ubiquiti will come with a poe adapter

    Thanks, yes, was working that into the mix. The PoE in the primary is not pass thru, which would have been very handy.


  • #680
    bobbyg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭bobbyg


    My M4s arrived today and I just set them up. As I am in the middle of getting the house renovated I just set up two wirelessly, one at the router in the hall and one upstairs. Before I set them up I did a speed test and was getting 61.5 Mbps on the phone pretty much everywhere in the house but only getting 25 Mbps on the laptop upstairs in box bedroom. I just did a test and the same speed on the phone but now getting 65 Mbps on the laptop. The Sky Q seems to be working fine but I have literally just set it up. This is with sky broadband


  • #681
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Eero 3 pack landed today so I swapped out my Tenda MW6.

    It was easier to set up (but still not straight forward) I couldn't find any of the devices using the app, but all I had to do was type in the serial number on the bottom and it set it up. A few seconds later it connected. Each one took about 2 mins for the app to stop searching and ask for the number. Antoher 30 seconds to set up and that was it.

    All in all, about ten mins.

    I have each one wired in with LAN cables. I'm on a 150mb line and in my upstairs bedroom, I now get 142mb download speeds.


    There was nothing wrong with the Tenda, it is a good system. It just left me with some small pockets of low speeds. My house is just full of concrete and a weird L shape so I needed the extra boost the Eero gives.

    I'll pop the Tenda up on adverts it will serve someone very well in fairness.


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  • #682
    neddynasty
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭neddynasty


    I got the Linksys Velop system 3-4 weeks ago. Tee nodes are really simple to setup, as is the app. First couple of weeks I had a few issues but that was due to having the nodes too far apart. Where I had the nodes seemed to interfere with the Sky mini box signal occasionally too. A week ago I reset them and placed them in better positions it's been flawless since. My main aim was a better connection in the attic where both my wife & I are WFH. We have FTTH and were getting about 3-5MB download in the attic from the original Vodafone router located in the living room. Getting 150MB in the attic now with the Velop system and no more complaints.

    My only issue with it is the size of the plugs! No idea why they made them so wide.


  • #683
    howdy2009
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭howdy2009


    Hi,
    I recently got an office pod built which is ~25 mtrs from the house (35mtrs from the router) and was looking for my best bet for good signal to allow work video calls etc.
    I was going to buy the google mesh but read most of the thread (apologies if i missed a good answer) and am more confused!

    I didn't get a cat 5 installed as it would have required work in the house and the TP link powerline isnt working for some reason (might be too far or different circuit).

    Was thinking i could install one mesh point at the back window and another in the pod.

    So can someone advise if:
    - Would the mesh set up work?
    - Is the mesh is the best option? Would a repeater or something else be better?

    Thanks!


  • #684
    garo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    A catc6 would have worked best. A mesh system will work but make sure it has the range. Different mesh systems have different Wi-Fi and backhaul range.


  • #685
    n1ck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭n1ck


    Hey all, just looking at the Amazon Prime Day sale and there are mesh systems on sale there - I am currently on 500mb/s Virgin BB at the moment and wondering if anyone could recommend a system? I've done some research but still a bit out of my depth. TIA!


  • #686
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    n1ck wrote: »
    Hey all, just looking at the Amazon Prime Day sale and there are mesh systems on sale there - I am currently on 500mb/s Virgin BB at the moment and wondering if anyone could recommend a system? I've done some research but still a bit out of my depth. TIA!

    What are you hoping to achieve? Are you suffer coverage drop outs, do you have many devices are you looking to expand cover?


  • #687
    n1ck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭n1ck


    Clareman wrote: »
    What are you hoping to achieve? Are you suffer coverage drop outs, do you have many devices are you looking to expand cover?

    It's primarily to solve poor signal in the far end of the house and to resolve limited speed directly to my PC - I've currently ethernet over power to the PC but still not quick at all (getting 5MB/s max) so ideally want a system that would improve speed to the PC as well - i.e. satellite takes wired connections as well.

    Number of devices is not a big deal at the moment but adding more smart devices over time, but not an excessive amount.


  • #688
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    n1ck wrote: »
    It's primarily to solve poor signal in the far end of the house and to resolve limited speed directly to my PC - I've currently ethernet over power to the PC but still not quick at all (getting 5MB/s max) so ideally want a system that would improve speed to the PC as well - i.e. satellite takes wired connections as well.

    Number of devices is not a big deal at the moment but adding more smart devices over time, but not an excessive amount.

    If you could backhaul each unit with Ethernet then the Deco M4 triple pack is excellent value at £99. I’m using these since July with VM 360 meg package and haven’t had a single issue since, no more slow speeds and WiFi dropouts. I’m getting full speeds now everywhere in the house and back garden now.


  • #689
    n1ck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭n1ck


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    If you could backhaul each unit with Ethernet then the Deco M4 triple pack is excellent value at £99. I’m using these since July with VM 360 meg package and haven’t had a single issue since, no more slow speeds and WiFi dropouts. I’m getting full speeds now everywhere in the house and back garden now.

    That is part of the problem, no where is wired except main connection to the router on the far side of the house. My main concern/issue is the PC, not necessarily the dead spots, they're an issue but not as big of one. Ideally, if it would backhaul over WiFi, then I can connect my PC to the satellite directly. I am assuming this is possible.


  • #690
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,006 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    The Deco ticks a lot of boxes for you, to discount the PC could you move it to the router area and plug it in directly to see what the performance is like, could be a simple issue like a fault network cable somewhere.


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  • #691
    n1ck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭n1ck


    Clareman wrote: »
    The Deco ticks a lot of boxes for you, to discount the PC could you move it to the router area and plug it in directly to see what the performance is like, could be a simple issue like a fault network cable somewhere.

    I will move it and give it a shot, appreciate the help!


  • #692
    Redsoxfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Redsoxfan wrote: »
    With the 22% off and the positive reports I took the plunge and bought the Google Nest router plus point. Will set it up at the weekend.

    Even with the Wizard firmware I found Asus mesh to be just ok. Hoping this is an improvement.

    2 weeks later and very happy with Google Nest.

    As others have said, it just works. Very easy to setup. Am getting 5x the speeds I was getting using the Asus in both router and mesh mode. So over 240mb on WiFi off main router and around 100mb on mesh (Virgin BB)

    It's expensive for what it is no doubt but its performing very well. The functionality offered via Google Home is enough for me. Only downside so far seems to be the lack of different SSIDs for 2.4 and 5ghz, it's all the one and it seems that your device decides what to connect to. This does not appear to have caused any issues yet but has done in the past when I chose to forget it for most devices.

    YMMV.


  • #693
    nigwerwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭nigwerwig


    I'm looking to improve the WiFi in my 2 story 3 bedroom 1980s house. The house was dry wall insulated a few years back. The WiFi is poor upstairs

    there is cat5e ran to each room. The cat5 is ran to under the stairs

    I have VM 250 the hub keeps dropping WiFi out.
    I have a nest cam as a baby monitor and had to move it higher as the baby is standing now the signal is to low.
    I have a few iot WiFi speaker. 2 nest hubs, lights etc

    I have the VM box next to my TV in the middle of the house but that can be moved to under the stairs if need be .

    I have read the hole thread and very new to networking.
    Started to look at mesh WiFi( Google etc )
    But after reading on here I have mixed feelings about what road to Go

    If I turn the VM box into router can I use the ethernet ports on it. Like a switch

    I may need a switch soon I don't at the moment
    I have two TVs and my CCTV ran into the back of the VM hub 3

    I'm putting up a office room in the garden have a cat5e ran to it, at some point is will need WiFi/ ethernet

    1. get an unifi lite ap or equivalent ap and pop it in the upstairs landing.

    2. same as above and get another ap for downstairs like the unifi flexhd I can pop beside the TV

    3. a mesh WiFi set up with ethernet back haul

    4. just pick up a better router and see if that helps

    5. Get a cheap router pop it upstairs or under the stairs and see how it goes

    then there is WiFi 6 coming soon my head is spinning thinking i should do something cheap, I don't even have anything WiFi 6 yet 😂😂

    Hope this makes sense
    Thanks for any help


  • #694
    Grumpypants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    This is my set up. I have the eero 3 pack (it's rock solid).

    Router to eero. Eero to wall socket. Wall socket to switch in the attic. Attic then runs cat5e to each room.

    I plugged an eero in the bed room and sitting room. They both feed from the attic switch.

    I'm on a 150mb Eir line and get 145mb WiFi all over the house. Even in the corner that is 75 feet and 4 block walls from the router. I can walk upstairs and stay connected.

    Previously about half way up the stairs I'd lose signal as I have solid concrete floors. Baby monitor used to have to sit on the stairs to stay connected.

    I've a seperate switch in the office from the router to serve the pc, consoles etc.


  • #695
    ireland456
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭ireland456


    Hi Great forum page has provided some good info

    would appreciate some help here on my situation
    house is 2800 2 story with hollow core block built
    am with Imagine broadband router is upstairs in middle of house at the front getting speed of 75mb
    currently have a tp link extender down stairs where am losing the will to live as it have to keep switching on and off with congestion
    currently am WFH so is ok on my own however once kids come home or weekends its a disaster

    Can some mesh guru recommend a system for me going from posts i am thinking
    TP Link AC1200 Deco Whole Home Mesh Wi-Fi System Deco M4 (3 pack)
    cannot run wires anywhere so any recommendation is welcome


  • #696
    nc6000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭nc6000


    ireland456 wrote: »
    Hi Great forum page has provided some good info

    would appreciate some help here on my situation
    house is 2800 2 story with hollow core block built
    am with Imagine broadband router is upstairs in middle of house at the front getting speed of 75mb
    currently have a tp link extender down stairs where am losing the will to live as it have to keep switching on and off with congestion
    currently am WFH so is ok on my own however once kids come home or weekends its a disaster

    Can some mesh guru recommend a system for me going from posts i am thinking
    TP Link AC1200 Deco Whole Home Mesh Wi-Fi System Deco M4 (3 pack)
    cannot run wires anywhere so any recommendation is welcome

    I've a Deco M4 3-pack in my house and it's working great, can't complain at all. One Deco downstairs plugged into the Eir F2000 and one upstairs is more than enough - not sure I needed the third unit but I put it in the kitchen during the summer so we had WiFi in the back garden.


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  • #697
    garo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    Is 75MB the wired speed or wireless in the same room as the router? If you can connect a device by cable - and use Cat 5e or Cat6 and not Cat 5 - and check the speed then you know what the ISP (Imagine) is giving you. I assume the TP Link extender is a 30 euro job? That likely uses the same channel for connecting to the router as it uses to the devices that effectively means halving the bandwidth.

    If you have a 75Mbps connection you may wish to investigate powerline adapters for your wired devices - if that's the only thing that is causing problems.
    With the Deco4 as well the 5GHz channel will share both the backhaul and the device connections so your theoretical max would be 588Mbps. So that's not going to be an issue.


  • #698
    bobbyg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭bobbyg


    nc6000 wrote: »
    I've a Deco M4 3-pack in my house and it's working great, can't complain at all. One Deco downstairs plugged into the Eir F2000 and one upstairs is more than enough - not sure I needed the third unit but I put it in the kitchen during the summer so we had WiFi in the back garden.

    I have something similar, just curious did you put the EIR F2000 into bridge mode or did you turn off the WiFi on it? Mine was working perfect with Sky Q until Monday when the M4 updated and I had a lot of problems. Found a solution online and it seems to be working perfect again.


  • #699
    nc6000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭nc6000


    bobbyg wrote: »
    I have something similar, just curious did you put the EIR F2000 into bridge mode or did you turn off the WiFi on it? Mine was working perfect with Sky Q until Monday when the M4 updated and I had a lot of problems. Found a solution online and it seems to be working perfect again.

    I turned off WiFi on the F2000 and have the Deco M4 set as an Access Point. I don't have Sky Q, just the Sky HD boxes which work fine. I'm on Deco firmware 1.4.2


  • #700
    ireland456
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭ireland456


    garo wrote: »
    Is 75MB the wired speed or wireless in the same room as the router? If you can connect a device by cable - and use Cat 5e or Cat6 and not Cat 5 - and check the speed then you know what the ISP (Imagine) is giving you. I assume the TP Link extender is a 30 euro job? That likely uses the same channel for connecting to the router as it uses to the devices that effectively means halving the bandwidth.

    If you have a 75Mbps connection you may wish to investigate powerline adapters for your wired devices - if that's the only thing that is causing problems.
    With the Deco4 as well the 5GHz channel will share both the backhaul and the device connections so your theoretical max would be 588Mbps. So that's not going to be an issue.

    75MB is the wired speed connected to imagine router.. yes the tp link extender is €30 job
    new laptop now has no network and others in house are apple fans(ipad and ipod) so main aim is to get more wireless around the house and having red feedback on here powerline adapters are been phased out by mesh systems...so be nice to future proof now

    at bottom of stairs i am getting 35mb download on phone but this drastically falls once i start moving into other rooms down stairs down to 2-3mb...


  • #701
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Sorry to hijack the thread, but I’ve been offered some of these google mesh devices. A friend of mine purchased a pallet load of them and asked me if I was interested in some. He has single, twin and triple packs. What sort of money are these and are they better than the TP link Dexo devices?


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