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Too much oil - diesel

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  • #52
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Clareman wrote: »
    Nope, I've managed to avoid that stuff, i dont think I could cope with it to be honest

    Wha? It's a blue cap beside the diesel cap, the dash display tells you how much is needed, open cap put in the required amount of litres, close cap job done. There are 2 garages here that have Adblue pumps which makes it very easy to fill.


  • #53
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's extra complexity to a modern diesel, I was happy enough that my Sorento wasn't adblu equipped tbh. I'm hoping to avoid it going forward also.


  • #54
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Wha? It's a blue cap beside the diesel cap, the dash display tells you how much is needed, open cap put in the required amount of litres, close cap job done. There are 2 garages here that have Adblue pumps which makes it very easy to fill.

    So there's loads of garages without pumps, the only extra I want when filling the car is whether I'm getting myself a coffee or not.


  • #55
    kermitpwee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    Clareman wrote: »
    So there's loads of garages without pumps, the only extra I want when filling the car is whether I'm getting myself a coffee or not.

    If it's not on pump they sell it inside in the shop in a container. If you can put in screen wash you can put in adblue


  • #56
    kermitpwee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    Augeo wrote: »
    It's extra complexity to a modern diesel, I was happy enough that my Sorento wasn't adblu equipped tbh. I'm hoping to avoid it going forward also.

    The adblue is actually making the system more reliable, issues can happen however


  • #57
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    The adblue is actually making the system more reliable, issues can happen however

    How does adblu make the system more reliable?
    In my case a Euro6 Sorento without adblu is less reliable than one with it?


  • #58
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Clareman wrote: »
    So there's loads of garages without pumps, the only extra I want when filling the car is whether I'm getting myself a coffee or not.

    Adblue is cheaper than coffee, it isn't difficult to put some in, a tank lasts 10,000km.


  • #59
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,293 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    The adblue is actually making the system more reliable, issues can happen however

    Indeed:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058160712


  • #60
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Adblue is cheaper than coffee, it isn't difficult to put some in, a tank lasts 10,000km.

    I've a fuel card so the cost isn't the issue, me being a useless lazy bastard is the issue


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  • #61
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Augeo wrote: »
    How does adblu make the system more reliable?
    In my case a Euro6 Sorento without adblu is less reliable than one with it?

    Sorento and reliability really don't belong in the same sentence, as for being Euro6 compliant I'd take that with a drum of salt never mind a pinch.


  • #62
    kermitpwee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Indeed:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058160712

    😂😂


  • #63
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Sorento and reliability really don't belong in the same sentence.............

    Really?
    I've 95k kms troublefree and there's another 55k kms before the warranty expires so I'll see how that goes. What issues should I be seeing ?


  • #64
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Augeo wrote: »
    Really?
    I've 95k kms troublefree and there's another 55k kms before the warranty expires so I'll see how that goes. What issues should I be seeing ?

    Brother in law had one, broke his heart, kept going into limp mode they never got to the bottom of it. Sore enough on diesel too. They did a deal with him in the end on a van they had as a call out vehicle, In fairness to Kia they never left him without transport and the van suited his needs better.


  • #65
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You don't seem to have extensive knowledge to share, thanks anyway :)
    I'm averaging 38mpg over 90k kms and also it's been 100% trouble free so I'm very happy with it.
    Service costs not at all expensive either.


  • #66
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
    kermitpwee wrote: »
    It's diesel, there is no other option. They don't overfill in main dealers, the oil put in is precise not a guess and top up job

    How could an overfill not happen in a main dealers? Half the technical staff are probably dim witted apprentices on sub minimum wage who haven't a clue nor care less.


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  • #67
    kermitpwee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    Augeo wrote: »
    You don't seem to have extensive knowledge to share, thanks anyway :)
    I'm averaging 38mpg over 90k kms and also it's been 100% trouble free so I'm very happy with it.
    Service costs not at all expensive either.

    Auto gearbox is soft, egr, injectors, turbo but realistically you can say that of any modern diesel. You can't compare them to a car imo, compare them to there competitors and they are OK.
    I do like them though, 90k isn't even 60 thousand miles, what year is it?


  • #68
    kermitpwee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=


    How could an overfill not happen in a main dealers? Half the technical staff are probably dim witted apprentices on sub minimum wage who haven't a clue nor care less.
    Yes I doubt they would be as smart as yourself


  • #69
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=


    How could an overfill not happen in a main dealers? Half the technical staff are probably dim witted apprentices on sub minimum wage who haven't a clue nor care less.
    Don't post in this thread again.


  • #70
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    So he got his car back. They explained to him that the car adjusts to the driving style/journeys and does regenerations based on past trips, up until he got his car serviced there was probably the same thing happening to the oil but because he had used some of the oil that there was no noticeable difference. When he got the car serviced in December they would have topped up the oil to the top levels and the additional short journeys meant that the levels went up.

    They've reprogrammed the car to reset the journeys so this shouldn't happen again and when lockdown lifts the car will just adjust to the longer journeys again, there's nothing for him to do now.

    TL;DR oil was topped up to theax at the last service, the short journeys since pushed the oil above the max levels because of the regeneration so they've changed the oil and reset the regeneration process.


  • #71
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    Auto gearbox is soft, egr, injectors, turbo but realistically you can say that of any modern diesel. You can't compare them to a car imo, compare them to there competitors and they are OK.
    I do like them though, 90k isn't even 60 thousand miles, what year is it?

    It's a manual, 181.


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  • #72
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Augeo wrote: »
    You don't seem to have extensive knowledge to share, thanks anyway :)
    I'm averaging 38mpg over 90k kms and also it's been 100% trouble free so I'm very happy with it.
    Service costs not at all expensive either.

    Extensive knowledge? Hard to have extensive knowledge when the dealer didn't know what was wrong with it. He's happy with the van, I don't know what became of the Sorrento.


  • #73
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You'd one piece of info to back up your claim sorentos were unreliable.

    You also reckon they aren't euro6 compliant iirc.

    Essentially I queried your comment and you've shed no light.


  • #74
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    It does happen though.

    Sure weren't certain Trooper diesels known for doing this and then running on and on until they blew up? I forget the terminology. But flawed design so....boom!

    Most likely DPF here. Driver who, like most, knows nothing about cars so goes for a diesel when they should have gone petrol.


  • #75
    Lewis_Benson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    Sure weren't certain Trooper diesels known for doing this and then running on and on until they blew up? I forget the terminology. But flawed design so....boom!

    Most likely DPF here. Driver who, like most, knows nothing about cars so goes for a diesel when they should have gone petrol.

    Runaway diesel...


  • #76
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    Sure weren't certain Trooper diesels known for doing this and then running on and on until they blew up? I forget the terminology. But flawed design so....boom!

    Most likely DPF here. Driver who, like most, knows nothing about cars so goes for a diesel when they should have gone petrol.

    Can happen any diesel, look up runaway diesels on YouTube


  • #77
    kermitpwee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    Augeo wrote: »
    You'd one piece of info to back up your claim sorentos were unreliable.

    You also reckon they aren't euro6 compliant iirc.

    Essentially I queried your comment and you've shed no light.

    To be fair i know nothing of 2015 on sportage issues, previous to that they were a ball of rubbish


  • #78
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    To be fair i know nothing of 2015 on sportage issues, previous to that they were a ball of rubbish

    Yes, I was referring to this chap...
    CoBo55 wrote: »
    ......


  • #79
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    This went from a newish 5 series to a 6 year old Kia fairly quick.


  • #80
    kermitpwee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭kermitpwee


    Clareman wrote: »
    This went from a newish 5 series to a 6 year old Kia fairly quick.

    2018 Kia


  • #81
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    kermitpwee wrote: »
    To be fair i know nothing of 2015 on sportage issues, previous to that they were a ball of rubbish

    BIL's was 2015, complete ball of scutter.


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  • #82
    maestroamado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Clareman wrote: »
    So he got his car back. They explained to him that the car adjusts to the driving style/journeys and does regenerations based on past trips, up until he got his car serviced there was probably the same thing happening to the oil but because he had used some of the oil that there was no noticeable difference. When he got the car serviced in December they would have topped up the oil to the top levels and the additional short journeys meant that the levels went up.

    They've reprogrammed the car to reset the journeys so this shouldn't happen again and when lockdown lifts the car will just adjust to the longer journeys again, there's nothing for him to do now.

    TL;DR oil was topped up to theax at the last service, the short journeys since pushed the oil above the max levels because of the regeneration so they've changed the oil and reset the regeneration process.

    Personally i do not believe all of that.
    I think the guy that said he need to pay for re-progamming made a blunder and just a cover-up story...


  • #83
    FileNotFound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    FR85 wrote: »
    I wouldn't say banned. People need to do their research. We also live in a different world, there are no more high mileage travelling salesmen. The OPs mate like the rest of us, his situation may have changed. Car may have been bulletproof up until the pandemic.

    I dont blame the customer, I blame the gob****es who sell them. When you go to buy a car you go in with key points you would like fulfilled, leather seats, boot space, bluetooth, buttons on a steering wheel ect and if they only have a deisel that meets these requirements then obviously that's what they are going to push. They are not going to ask you if you drive 50 miles a year of 50,000 miles a year. If they do get wind that you tootle around at 20mph everywhere they are not going to say: I'm not selling you that because it will be a worthless peice of scrap in 6 months.
    People see them as economical with a high mpg return but they dont know they are now built with the same fragile components as a kitten.

    Agree - had a 5 series doing 50k miles a year and it was a trooper, changed job and sat on m50 for a year and it was a nightmare.

    Its about the journey as much as the car.

    Have an e-scooter now as i go nowhere haha



    DPF are well known to cause issues on all diesels but got us all low tax so its a pay off. Had diesels for years, took one out of a passat altogether, BMW 5 series went bad but got rid of car as chain was ready to go and now a modeo 1.6tdci - I make sure i give it a good run every now and then just to give it a chance.

    I do remember the BMW was a bit different - glow plugs supported dpf regen or some such nonsense and a failure in the relay on my plugs may have helped cause the blockage.

    Passat with it gone passed all nct's and never had an issue to be fair. Only got the mondeo a year ago so it has barely moved at all.


  • #84
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    FileNotFound wrote: »
    Agree - had a 5 series doing 50k miles a year and it was a trooper, changed job and sat on m50 for a year and it was a nightmare.

    Its about the journey as much as the car.

    Have an e-scooter now as i go nowhere haha



    DPF are well known to cause issues on all diesels but got us all low tax so its a pay off. Had diesels for years, took one out of a passat altogether, BMW 5 series went bad but got rid of car as chain was ready to go and now a modeo 1.6tdci - I make sure i give it a good run every now and then just to give it a chance.

    I do remember the BMW was a bit different - glow plugs supported dpf regen or some such nonsense and a failure in the relay on my plugs may have helped cause the blockage.

    Passat with it gone passed all nct's and never had an issue to be fair. Only got the mondeo a year ago so it has barely moved at all.

    That's the thing. I equate regen/dpf to a string of old fashioned fairy lights, one thing goes wrong, sensor, glow plug etc and regen doesn't happen, before you know it the dpf becomes a clinker.


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