Ryan Garcia v Luke Campbell Fight Thread

walshb · 03-01-2021 1:14am

Johner wrote: »

7th round. It was an enjoyable watch, Garcia still looks very green and not ready for the big fights yet but an impressive win after being dropped in the second.

Yes..

Campbell is a decent win, but nothing approaching great..

ASOT · 03-01-2021 1:14am

If Garcia has any sense at all he will stay away from Tank as long as possible.

Blanco100 · 03-01-2021 1:15am

It's a deadly division alot of quality fighters

ianob7 · 03-01-2021 1:15am

nocoverart wrote:

Oh, no getting away from the C word.

My bad for the slight derailment..

Just a bit perplexed is all..

Don't think Garcia is ready for the big hitters yet

Blanco100 · 03-01-2021 1:17am

ASOT wrote: »

If Garcia has any sense at all he will stay away from Tank as long as possible.

Haney schools him too, get the impression from that interview he's not as keen on that fight.

Lopez didn't get a mention.

weemcd · 03-01-2021 1:18am

My takes from tonight:

DAZN commentary is brutal and needs a serious upgrade.
Garcia had some flashy punches there but he got clipped.
Campbell did a good job but he looked awkward too.
Garcia needs a lot of work before he goes up a level again, I'd expect to see him have 2 or 3 gimmes now, maybe more, he's 22 and has all the time in the world.

His post interview is not endearing me to him at all. Too Mayweather/Broner for my liking, in fact I could see me finding him very unlikeable in another fight or two.

Hypejob? Probably not.
Second coming of DLH? Certainly not.

Big Ears · 03-01-2021 1:18am

Blanco100 wrote: »

He will make a fortune if went the route of early Mayweather/Hamed where people pay to see him get KO'd.

And he fights some tomato cans of course.

Something very annoying about his leaping about

While I know you're alluding to playing the heel, he's certainly more Hamed than Mayweather ability wise.

He'll freeze lesser level guys with his handspeed, but for those who can read/time a guy and are happy to throw back under pressure, he's there to be clipped.
He was hurt by Luke Campbell tonight too, not a great sign for how he'd cope if hes caught by a puncher.

Blanco100 · 03-01-2021 1:20am

Big Ears wrote: »

While I know you're alluding to playing the heel, he's certainly more Hamed than Mayweather ability wise.

He'll freeze lesser level guys with his handspeed, but for those who can read/time a guy and are happy to throw back under pressure, he's there to be clipped.
He was hurt by Luke Campbell tonight too, not a great sign for how he'd cope if hes caught by a puncher.

Amen to that. Hes ripe to get Barrera'd

I think the other guys in the division would be wise to allow the hype to build to fever pitch before taking him on. Might not be as much money in beating him this year.

titan18 · 03-01-2021 1:34am

Ya, he's a decent fighter to watch I think, but his defensive game seemed severely lacking for a fight against Teofimo, Haney, Loma or Tank. Like if Teofimo hits him like Campbell did, the fight is over very early. If he can develop those defensive skills, he could be dangerous but as of now, he's better off avoiding fights against those 4 and picking guys around the top 10 with a name like Linares or Selby

Morrison J · 03-01-2021 1:39am

Good win for Garcia and a great win for boxing but he'll get destroyed by Teo or Tank realistically. Garcia just far too too upright and far too hittable to hang with the bigger hitters. I'd be targeting Haney who he definitely has a clearer avenue to beating imo. Division is red hot though.

megadodge · 03-01-2021 1:50am

Well, first things first, the next time Garcia fights, I'll go out of my way to watch. This guy is seriously entertaining! Terrific speed, a real aggressive attitude, very hard puncher and most of all - he's there to be hit.

He may end up being a cross between Arturo Gatti and Nigel Benn (not a bad thing from a boxing fan's point of view), all out action, but will be dropped and hurt, but he definitely seems to have the heart and desire to come back from adversity. I wouldn't back him against Davis or Lopez and who knows with Haney, but one thing for sure, you won't be able to keep your eyes off the screen during those fights.

The commentary, on the other hand, was hard to listen to. Any time Garcia even threw punches they were creaming themselves despite the vast majority of them being blocked, meanwhile lots of good punches from Campbell were being completely ignored. It was a closely fought fight, even though Garcia always looked on top, but the commentators will probably be put on mute the next time I tune in.

walshb · 03-01-2021 12:28pm

Enjoyable enough fight

As usual, with many fights, power the real difference here....

Garcia has some, Luke does not....and it dictated the flow of the action...

Apart from the flash KD in rd 2, that Garcia shook off very quickly, Luke couldn't hurt or deter Garcia.....but, Garcia was hurting and dominating Campbell with his landed shots....

Other than rd 2, Campbell did not win a round.....he just is not a good pro....he has very little to offer, other than being a southpaw with height.

Garcia has good power, fast hands, and nice variation....He also has size and reach and height at 135 lbs. He is far from the finished article, but he will make for enjoyable fights at 135...

I do like his straight 1-2, and his lead left hook straight right hand. Reminds me a little of Floyd in this regard.

Haney is a good match....not a big hitter, and a little smaller than Garcia...

nacho libre · 03-01-2021 12:48pm

Garcia did well to come back from that knock down. He was in charge of the fight and won every round after it. I think while he has a lot of skill, he is in danger of being knocked out by a bigger puncher than Campbell if he gets caught like that again .

I felt a bit sorry for Campbell afterwards. It's hard too see where he goes from here.

walshb · 03-01-2021 8:38pm

ASOT wrote: »

If Garcia has any sense at all he will stay away from Tank as long as possible.

Not seeing this..

I like Tank, but he’s a very small LW, and if a blown up FW like Leo can go several rds and hold his own, I think a far bigger and heavier handed Garcia can at least make it interesting..

Who has tank beaten at LW that was both quite good and a decent size?

Garcia is 3-4 inches taller, can punch, and would likely have a fair few lbs on him in the ring..

Tank is a SFW..Garcia is a good sized LW..

fitzparker · 04-01-2021 10:30am

Entertaining fight, Garcia dominated, Campbell was a little too timid but attacked the body well that of course was overlooked along with the knockdown as DAZN creamed themselves for the "future of boxing"

From the outset it was clear the card was all about "KINGRY"

The celebration was like he became the undisputed champ of the world, harping on calling him the next big thing is also disrespectful when the LW division champs are all under 25

One thing I do agree with is Garcia being the money fight, he has amassed a big social media following and with 99% of boxers its money over legacy so they will all be biting at the bit to get at him, the excuse they will use is "doing it for boxing" but we know what the goal is, Garcia will be the A-side

From a boxing standpoint he does have decent attributes, his hand speed is super at times 5 were thrown before Luke adjusted we have also seen how he handles a knockdown, he went straight on the offensive which I think put luke back a bit as he wasn't expecting it

I feel Garcia wouldn't get that time if tank put him on his arse, for me if that does happen it will be over within the next 30 seconds, but although the feet weren't great he does have the reach height and power to keep tank on the outside.

P.S wouldn't surprise me if Sergio Mora had Garcia up 10-9 in the second haha! that lad must have got a pre fight warning to mention Garcia and ODLH at least 10 times a round or he will be sacked

Butson · 04-01-2021 11:47am

Commentary was poor alright from Mora, but really how different is it from Adam Smith / Tony Bellew on Sky. Just delivered with a bit more drama as is the American way.

Garcia is very beatable as stands too upright and head movement is poor, but he is still young, has power and has probably the best trainer in the world right now, plus Canelo.
Doesn't matter too much in this part of the world, but this is big for boxing in America now, which I think is slowly dragging itself up off the floor.

walshb · 04-01-2021 12:03pm

Butson wrote: »

Commentary was poor alright from Mora, but really how different is it from Adam Smith / Tony Bellew on Sky. Just delivered with a bit more drama as is the American way.

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Yes, I was thinking the same

Commentary was no worse than some others....

walshb · 04-01-2021 12:04pm

fitzparker wrote: »

P.S wouldn't surprise me if Sergio Mora had Garcia up 10-9 in the second haha! that lad must have got a pre fight warning to mention Garcia and ODLH at least 10 times a round or he will be sacked

Well, other than the KD, Garcia well won the round....

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