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04-10-2020, 15:14   #736
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An American leadership coach (And former green beret) interviewing the Irish Chief of Staff last week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_TUttOByGc
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01-12-2020, 17:41   #737
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After this long burning and with those temperatures it would seem highly unlikely to be repairable, I mean you have to think you've steal weakening issues now.
Your correct Sparky, she's going for the scrapper.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...homme-richard/

She had just been in the ship yard for 18 months and had 250 million buck worth of an upgrade. Holy moly
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Your correct Sparky, she's going for the scrapper.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...homme-richard/

She had just been in the ship yard for 18 months and had 250 million buck worth of an upgrade. Holy moly

Somebodies insurance company is going to get a hell a bill I imagine, though I'd guess the USN is going to go through her with a fine toothcomb to learn all they can from the fire damage, after that wonder will we see a Sinkex?
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Not much to be learnt from a sinkex with a hull that has already suffered structural weakening. She'll be recycled.

Word is JAG is going after the contractors who caused the initial fire.
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Not much to be learnt from a sinkex with a hull that has already suffered structural weakening. She'll be recycled.

Word is JAG is going after the contractors who caused the initial fire.

Not much, but it would be a nice exercise for those involved given her size, or sunk for an artificial reef, though as you say most likely recycled.
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02-12-2020, 15:45   #741
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Former Chief of Staff Lt. General James Parker (rtd) has died one day short of his 92nd birthday from the effects of Covid-19.

Gen. Parker was CoS between 1989 and 1992 and among a wide variety of Army postings in a 44 year career, was a veteran of the Siege of Jadotville.

Normally he would be afforded a State funeral but this is currently not possible, so will be laid to rest by his immediate family and a memorial held at a later date

May he rest in peace.
Jim Parker was not in Jadotville.
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Jim Parker was not in Jadotville.
Jim went out with the 35th as assistant Int Officer. Not "A" Coy though.
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Not much, but it would be a nice exercise for those involved given her size, or sunk for an artificial reef, though as you say most likely recycled.
Not long since a flat top was subject to Sinkex(USS America CV66 in 2005). Little has changed weapon wise in the meantime.
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Jim went out with the 35th as assistant Int Officer. Not "A" Coy though.
There were those who were in Jadotville and those elsewhere in the Congo. Some at BN HQ broke off communication with "A" Coy and left them to their fate.
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Not long since a flat top was subject to Sinkex(USS America CV66 in 2005). Little has changed weapon wise in the meantime.
Big difference though between a CV and a LHD in terms of internal compartmentalisation, not too mention the age gap in terms of construction methods and design, so it could still be a learning experience, just as how the fire got out of control is likely to be a massive study for the USN and others.
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Big difference though between a CV and a LHD in terms of internal compartmentalisation, not too mention the age gap in terms of construction methods and design, so it could still be a learning experience, just as how the fire got out of control is likely to be a massive study for the USN and others.
Do you think?
The only significant difference is one had steam catapults, the other didn't. One had a well dock, the other didn't.
Both had flat tops, both had internal aircraft hangars accessed by deck edge lifts.
One was 70m longer than the other..
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Do you think?
The only significant difference is one had steam catapults, the other didn't. One had a well dock, the other didn't.
Both had flat tops, both had internal aircraft hangars accessed by deck edge lifts.
One was 70m longer than the other..

You really think the survivability of a CV and a LHD is the same? The Well Deck alone is a huge difference (for example the issues Ro-Ro's have when they get water on their car decks). Moreover you are talking about ships separated by over 30 years in design and construction, the CV's are in a different league to LHD's in design and suriviability.
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Well told and moving.
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