Missing court due to Illness

4ensic15 · 21-05-2019 8:57pm

mdwexford wrote: »

I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

There are some decent guards around despite what you might think

Bunny Colvin · 21-05-2019 8:59pm

mdwexford wrote: »

I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

Who cares how stressed they are. They drove while over the limit. Attend Court and take the punishment.

The OP seems genuinely stressed and never tried to excuse his actions. I hope it goes well for him tomorrow.

n!ghtmancometh · 21-05-2019 9:07pm

mdwexford wrote: »

I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

Who cares how stressed they are. They drove while over the limit. Attend Court and take the punishment.

Guard injured on duty and off for months, guard on maternity leave, guard on a course in Templemore, guard on holidays etc. It happens regularly enough, they'd usually have another guard stand in and tell judge why they aren't there.

Always Tired · 21-05-2019 9:09pm

OP having gone through it myself psychological torture you put yourself through worrying is always far worse than any sentence the judge will give. I'm convinced that's part of the reason they do this crap putting cases back all the time, time after time.

Try and just distract yourself from thinking about it and it will hopefully be over this time tomorrow. It's a hard thing to not think about, but it is well worth the effort as you have no idea how the court will go anyway. Which is annoying but really so much of it is out of your hands you can only turn up and let things take their course. Hope it gets dealt with finally and the judge is in good form.

donkeykong5 · 21-05-2019 9:11pm

mdwexford wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Hes turned up in court 3 times already. If the police are a no show again tomorrow then it deserves to be thrown out. Are you not reading how stressed the op is. Its not at all fair !

I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

Who cares how stressed they are. They drove while over the limit. Attend Court and take the punishment.

He did 3 times. Enough is enough !

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-05-2019 9:12pm

Hey OP

Try to relax it's just a game to these people judges barristers solicitors

It's your whole life in your head tonight but they won't give you a second thought come Friday evening

Remember that

Best of luck

bingbong500 · 21-05-2019 9:22pm

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Hes turned up in court 3 times already. If the police are a no show again tomorrow then it deserves to be thrown out. Are you not reading how stressed the op is. Its not at all fair !

Stressed? Do you know how "stressed" people are when their family members are killed by drunk drivers?
It's not ok to be a drunk driver if you're "stressed". It doesn't excuse you. It doesn't mean you're allowed to not go to court or get off on a technicality.

mdwexford · 21-05-2019 9:31pm

4ensic15 wrote: »

There are some decent guards around despite what you might think

No idea what you mean.

I said I doubt the reason for the case being adjourned three times was the Guard not showing up. I didn’t say anything about the Guards not being decent?

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

The OP seems genuinely stressed and never tried to excuse his actions. I hope it goes well for him tomorrow.

People are stressed every day.
Anything other than a ban will be letting them off lightly.

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

Guard injured on duty and off for months, guard on maternity leave, guard on a course in Templemore, guard on holidays etc. It happens regularly enough, they'd usually have another guard stand in and tell judge why they aren't there.

Three times in a row if the case is ready to proceed seems unlikely though.

STB. · 21-05-2019 9:38pm

mdwexford wrote: »

Three times in a row if the case is ready to proceed seems unlikely though.

Whatever about the judge and jury stuff by boards md, it is likely.

The last conviction rate I have seen published is 58%.

Get Real · 21-05-2019 9:44pm

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Just going to be a man and face a problem i created myself. Just hope i can do it. It's hard though with anxiety and depression. Also hard for people to understand too.

I'm afraid of breaking down in court, that's how low i feel.

Op fair play for facing the problem. Just wondering if by "being a man and face a problem you created yourself" you mean you're going guilty? If that's the case, don't let the barrister/solicitor drag it out over a few separate dates for more money.

It'll save mental anguish and having to attend on numerous days. In fact in theory, there's nothing to stop someone going guilty on day one and having it dealt with there and then. I'd wonder about the motive$ behind these numerous dates. It's you that's suffering in the long run.

Unless of course you're going not guilty, in which case it could be given numerous dates for a number of reasons, the guard only required to attend on the actual final hearing day of the case.

odyssey06 · 21-05-2019 9:46pm

The punishment should be the punishment authorised by the court. The punishment should not be the court process... or lack thereof.

BohsCeltic · 21-05-2019 11:08pm

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Hes turned up in court 3 times already. If the police are a no show again tomorrow then it deserves to be thrown out. Are you not reading how stressed the op is. Its not at all fair !

Thank you, i made a mistake but i am human. I thought i was ok but i wasn't and i hold my hands up.

BohsCeltic · 21-05-2019 11:15pm

bingbong500 wrote: »

Stressed? Do you know how "stressed" people are when their family members are killed by drunk drivers?
It's not ok to be a drunk driver if you're "stressed". It doesn't excuse you. It doesn't mean you're allowed to not go to court or get off on a technicality.

I made one foolish mistake. If you want to know how stressed i am i thought of taking my own life last week !

BohsCeltic · 21-05-2019 11:18pm

quickbeam wrote: »

Do you have somebody to go with you for moral support? Friends, family? Could make a world of difference not having to go alone.

I am going alone, i don't want to put pressure on someone else when i was in the wrong.

donkeykong5 · 21-05-2019 11:22pm

BohsCeltic wrote: »

quickbeam wrote: »

Do you have somebody to go with you for moral support? Friends, family? Could make a world of difference not having to go alone.

I am going alone, i don't want to put pressure on someone else when i was in the wrong.

Maybe it would be a good idea if someone did accompany you. A family member or friend. Maybe contact them before it gets too late. It's only 11.23pm.

BohsCeltic · 21-05-2019 11:31pm

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Maybe it would be a good idea if someone did accompany you. A family member or friend. Maybe contact them before it gets too late. It's only 11.23pm.

I don't want to bother people for a mistake i made myself. My Sister could go but she has enough things to do so i have to do it myself. If she went with me that would mean my elderly Mother taking care of two of her kids. It's my problem so i wouldn't like other people to get involved.

drunkmonkey · 21-05-2019 11:37pm

Let the barrister decide what way to handle it, if he thinks he can get you off take the opportunity. Don't worry about the morals of the situation you didn't hurt anyone, it sounds like it's already had a big impact and lesson learned.

ExoPolitic · 21-05-2019 11:49pm

On a side note, take a sick bag. Judge wouldn't like having to suspend court in order to clean up.

drunkmonkey · 21-05-2019 11:52pm

If you could locate Daenerys missing dragon and fly in on it, could really swing things around.

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n!ghtmancometh · 22-05-2019 12:43am

ExoPolitic wrote: »

On a side note, take a sick bag. Judge wouldn't like having to suspend court in order to clean up.

Have you seen a district court sitting in Dublin? a good % the 'audience' is either pissed and rowdy or strung out/stoned asleep and snoring. A bit of puke wouldn't phase many, might get a a laugh from the room at best!

Purple Mountain · 22-05-2019 12:52am

Just on another note.
Alcohol and medication for mental health issues don't bode well together.
Mind yourself.

donkeykong5 · 22-05-2019 1:02am

BohsCeltic wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Maybe it would be a good idea if someone did accompany you. A family member or friend. Maybe contact them before it gets too late. It's only 11.23pm.

I don't want to bother people for a mistake i made myself. My Sister could go but she has enough things to do so i have to do it myself. If she went with me that would mean my elderly Mother taking care of two of her kids. It's my problem so i wouldn't like other people to get involved.

It's only for a few hours. If your mother and sister knew how down and sick you feel I'm sure they would work it so one of them could accompany you. I really do think you need someone with you. Also I really hope after this been the 4th time that if the copper doesn't turn up yet again....that its thrown out of court.

BohsCeltic · 22-05-2019 7:22am

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Just on another note.
Alcohol and medication for mental health issues don't bode well together.
Mind yourself.

Oh i know that and i am addressing that problem too. Despite my foolish mistake i am getting all the help i need to try and fix everything.

drunkmonkey · 22-05-2019 8:03am

Your up get suited and booted and down there early to meet your defence. Hopefully all over by this afternoon and you'll feel better no matter which way the cards fall.

donkeykong5 · 22-05-2019 8:41am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Your up get suited and booted and down there early to meet your defence. Hopefully all over by this afternoon and you'll feel better no matter which way the cards fall.

Yeah . Good luck for today. !

Shakey_jake · 22-05-2019 12:58pm

Might be done by now?

Any word?

Dirkziggler · 22-05-2019 1:09pm

Shakey_jake wrote: »

Might be done by now?

Any word?

Should be well done

Claw Hammer · 22-05-2019 1:51pm

Hearings are often held in the afternoons with mentions and mitigations in the mornings.

BohsCeltic · 22-05-2019 2:25pm

Nightmare of a day. Got there early and i was called second but my barrister was stuck in another court so they put it till the end. Only home now.

As expected 3 year ban but the fine was quite low, €200.

Relieved it's all over.

Horrible place to be. I can say for sure i was the best dressed person in that room.

Odelay · 22-05-2019 2:31pm

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Nightmare of a day. Got there early and i was called second but my barrister was stuck in another court so they put it till the end. Only home now.

As expected 3 year ban but the fine was quite low, €200.

Relieved it's all over.

Horrible place to be. I can say for sure i was the best dressed person in that room.

Three year ban?? Was it your first time?

BohsCeltic · 22-05-2019 2:34pm

Odelay wrote: »

Three year ban?? Was it your first time?

Yes and my only ever conviction.

22-05-2019 2:36pm

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Yes and my only ever conviction.

3 months or 3 years?

drunkmonkey · 22-05-2019 3:04pm

Ward J. Littell wrote: »

3 months or 3 years?

He said 3yrs, Valium?

You can appeal in 18mts and might get it taken to 2.

22-05-2019 3:10pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He said 3yrs, Valium?

You can appeal in 18mts and might get it taken to 2.

3 years for drink driving seems to be a lot especially when the OP says it was the morning after that he was caught. The default punishment for the lowest scale of drink driving is a 3 month ban and €200 fine.

Duffryman · 22-05-2019 3:11pm

You can get a three-year ban for a first offence for alcohol concentrations of -
(a) Exceeding 150mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood
(b) Exceeding 200mg of alcohol per 100ml of urine
(c) Exceeding 66mg of alcohol per 100ml of breath

Legal limits are 50mg for alcohol, 67mg for urine, and 22mg for breath. So basically, three-year ban for anything above three times over the limit.

Always Tired · 22-05-2019 3:11pm

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Nightmare of a day. Got there early and i was called second but my barrister was stuck in another court so they put it till the end. Only home now.

As expected 3 year ban but the fine was quite low, €200.

Relieved it's all over.

Horrible place to be. I can say for sure i was the best dressed person in that room.

Yeah there's no point getting dressed up, it doesn't help at all with your case and just makes you stick out and be more uncomfortable. I'd nearly swear the judges I seen are worse on people who come in dressed up (maybe they're thinking, 'Hmph, notions on him') whereas the scummers who rock up in hoodies and trackies never get a tough sentence.

The ban is long but the fine is really low. And it's over. Pretty good result.

nuac · 22-05-2019 3:14pm

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