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Missing court due to Illness

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    #32
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    District court. I am the accused. Already been 3 times but it kept getting put off because the Guard didn't turn up.


    I suspected it was a DD.

    It was rescheduled 3 times already because the Garda didn't turn up ? Over what period of time ?

    If the Garda does not turn up tomorrow, the judge might not be so accommodating. Turn up!


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    #33
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,342 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    Can't get an appointment with doc and i wouldn't touch steroids. I suffer from anxiety and depression but also now have a stomach bug.
    Go to pharmacy. Alternatively, there are out-of-hours doctors in many locations.

    Is there someone you can send, to ensure communication with your legal team?

    When the time comes, do you have someone to go to court with you?


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    #34
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    SmartinMartin wrote: »
    Civil court? Criminal court? Are you a witness? Accused?

    District court. I am the accused. Already been 3 times but it kept getting put off because the Guard didn't turn up.
    If it has already been put off 3 times that's crazy. Get a letter from your doctor saying you are unwell.


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    #35
    BohsCeltic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    STB. wrote: »
    I suspected it was a DD.

    It was rescheduled 3 times already because the Garda didn't turn up ? Over what period of time ?

    If the Garda does not turn up tomorrow, the judge might not be so accommodating. Turn up!

    I will turn up. My Mother who is 75 nearly slapped the head off me as she alway's knew i was so much against DD.

    Period of time now is 9 months since first appearance so i've had this hanging over me all this time.


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    #36
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    STB. wrote: »
    I suspected it was a DD.

    It was rescheduled 3 times already because the Garda didn't turn up ? Over what period of time ?

    If the Garda does not turn up tomorrow, the judge might not be so accommodating. Turn up!

    I will turn up. My Mother who is 75 nearly slapped the head off me as she alway's knew i was so much against DD.

    Period of time now is 9 months since first appearance so i've had this hanging over me all this time.
    I would be so stressed. Hopefully cop wont turn up again tomorrow and judge throws it out of court.


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    #37
    BohsCeltic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    Victor wrote: »
    go to pharmacy. Alternatively, there are out-of-hours doctors in many locations.

    Is there someone you can send, to ensure communication with your legal team?

    Just going to be a man and face a problem i created myself. Just hope i can do it. It's hard though with anxiety and depression. Also hard for people to understand too.

    I'm afraid of breaking down in court, that's how low i feel.


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    #38
    BohsCeltic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    I would be so stressed. Hopefully cop wont turn up again tomorrow and judge throws it out of court.

    I can only hope but i never get any luck.


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    #39
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,342 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    Just going to be a man and face a problem i created myself. Just hope i can do it. It's hard though with anxiety and depression. Also hard for people to understand too.

    I'm afraid of breaking down in court, that's how low i feel.
    Go to pharmacy. Many of them have a private space where you can talk to the pharmacist without anyone overhearing. Explain your situation. Ask is there anything you can take that will help with your nerves, but without impairing your thought processes.
    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    I'm afraid of breaking down in court, that's how low i feel.
    That's a legitimate concern. Explain your situation to your legal team. Explain to the judge that you aren't used to court and that your suffer from anxiety - given that most people aren't used to court, I'm sure they see it regularly.


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    #40
    Dirkziggler
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    Guys it can't be thrown out without directions. OP you need to turn up tomorrow and tell your solicitor you want to plea guilty if the garda isn't there on a guilty plea he will need to be there to read the facts. If he hasn't and it has went past the 6 months 1 day "time passing" in court terms a judge will have no other option but to strike out.

    He can't sentence without the facts. If the garda hasn't directed the court sergeant which if he did your of been deslt with already, its thrown out tomorrow.


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    #41
    BohsCeltic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    Victor wrote: »
    Go to pharmacy. Many of them have a private space where you can talk to the pharmacist without anyone overhearing. Explain your situation. Ask is there anything you can take that will help with your nerves, but without impairing your thought processes.

    I have medication. Valium and i am on a new Antidepressant but haven't taken it as i'm afraid of being drowsy and not clear headed.

    And sorry mod's for going a bit off topic.


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    #42
    JustJoe7240
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    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    I would be so stressed. Hopefully cop wont turn up again tomorrow and judge throws it out of court.

    As a fellow road user, I can’t help but disagree with you.


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    #43
    angel eyes 2012
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Court Servive will inform his solicitor and the judge.

    No onus on Courts Service to inform either the solicitor or the judge particularly if the defendant is only making contact with the office now. Responsibility is on solicitor acting on behalf of their client. If the op cannot make contact with the solicitor, he should make every effort to appear as it is on his interest to do so.


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    #44
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    I have medication. Valium and i am on a new Antidepressant but haven't taken it as i'm afraid of being drowsy and not clear headed.

    And sorry mod's for going a bit off topic.

    This is one of the borderline fails the morning after the night before.

    One of the most common instances for a case being dismissed is the non attendance of a garda involved in the prosecution at the court hearing.

    Talk to your brief about this tomorrow. Its defo in your interest to attend for your mental sanity alone.


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    #45
    n!ghtmancometh
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    Turn up, Garda might not and if your solicitor is anyway decent he/she will pressure the judge to strike out your case as you've appeared 3 x previously and Garda has not and case has been dragging for nearly a year.

    Is this a hearing date OP? if so and you don't turn up it is very likely a bench warrant will go out. Then guards could then show up to your door at any time and are obliged to take you into custody and bring you to court where you'll be lodged with prison service and will share holding cells with some lovely people until your case is called, which could be hours. Then your solicitor will have to argue for you to be released on bail, which is not a given.


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    #46
    4ensic15
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    Duffryman wrote: »
    . It would be unusual for a barrister to attend DC if it’s likely to just be another adjournment.

    .

    It happens in the Dublin District Court all the time. In some District Court there are sometimes no solicitors. Legal Aid solicitors in Dublin often work without an office and send unattended barristers to District Courts when they can't go themselves.


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    #47
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    I would be so stressed. Hopefully cop wont turn up again tomorrow and judge throws it out of court.

    I can only hope but i never get any luck.
    Well tomorrow hopefully you will.


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    #48
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    JustJoe7240 wrote: »
    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    I would be so stressed. Hopefully cop wont turn up again tomorrow and judge throws it out of court.

    As a fellow road user, I can’t help but disagree with you.
    Hes turned up in court 3 times already. If the police are a no show again tomorrow then it deserves to be thrown out. Are you not reading how stressed the op is. Its not at all fair !


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    #49
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Do you have somebody to go with you for moral support? Friends, family? Could make a world of difference not having to go alone.


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    #50
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    JustJoe7240 wrote: »
    As a fellow road user, I can’t help but disagree with you.

    As a fellow road user - teetotal - I DO agree with him/her.

    Just for balance.


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    #51
    mdwexford
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    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    Hes turned up in court 3 times already. If the police are a no show again tomorrow then it deserves to be thrown out. Are you not reading how stressed the op is. Its not at all fair !

    I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

    Who cares how stressed they are. They drove while over the limit. Attend Court and take the punishment.


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    #52
    4ensic15
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    mdwexford wrote: »
    I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

    There are some decent guards around despite what you might think


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    #53
    Bunny Colvin
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    mdwexford wrote: »
    I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

    Who cares how stressed they are. They drove while over the limit. Attend Court and take the punishment.

    The OP seems genuinely stressed and never tried to excuse his actions. I hope it goes well for him tomorrow.


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    #54
    n!ghtmancometh
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭n!ghtmancometh


    mdwexford wrote: »
    I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

    Who cares how stressed they are. They drove while over the limit. Attend Court and take the punishment.

    Guard injured on duty and off for months, guard on maternity leave, guard on a course in Templemore, guard on holidays etc. It happens regularly enough, they'd usually have another guard stand in and tell judge why they aren't there.


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    #55
    Always Tired
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    OP having gone through it myself psychological torture you put yourself through worrying is always far worse than any sentence the judge will give. I'm convinced that's part of the reason they do this crap putting cases back all the time, time after time.

    Try and just distract yourself from thinking about it and it will hopefully be over this time tomorrow. It's a hard thing to not think about, but it is well worth the effort as you have no idea how the court will go anyway. Which is annoying but really so much of it is out of your hands you can only turn up and let things take their course. Hope it gets dealt with finally and the judge is in good form.


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    #56
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    mdwexford wrote: »
    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    Hes turned up in court 3 times already. If the police are a no show again tomorrow then it deserves to be thrown out. Are you not reading how stressed the op is. Its not at all fair !

    I significantly doubt it’s been adjourned three times because the prosecuting Guard did not show up.

    Who cares how stressed they are. They drove while over the limit. Attend Court and take the punishment.
    He did 3 times. Enough is enough !


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    #57
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Hey OP

    Try to relax it's just a game to these people judges barristers solicitors

    It's your whole life in your head tonight but they won't give you a second thought come Friday evening

    Remember that

    Best of luck


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    #58
    bingbong500
    Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭bingbong500


    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    Hes turned up in court 3 times already. If the police are a no show again tomorrow then it deserves to be thrown out. Are you not reading how stressed the op is. Its not at all fair !


    Stressed? Do you know how "stressed" people are when their family members are killed by drunk drivers?
    It's not ok to be a drunk driver if you're "stressed". It doesn't excuse you. It doesn't mean you're allowed to not go to court or get off on a technicality.


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    #59
    mdwexford
    Registered Users Posts: 11,275 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    There are some decent guards around despite what you might think

    No idea what you mean.

    I said I doubt the reason for the case being adjourned three times was the Guard not showing up. I didn’t say anything about the Guards not being decent?
    Bunny Colvin wrote: »
    The OP seems genuinely stressed and never tried to excuse his actions. I hope it goes well for him tomorrow.

    People are stressed every day.
    Anything other than a ban will be letting them off lightly.
    n!ghtmancometh wrote: »
    Guard injured on duty and off for months, guard on maternity leave, guard on a course in Templemore, guard on holidays etc. It happens regularly enough, they'd usually have another guard stand in and tell judge why they aren't there.

    Three times in a row if the case is ready to proceed seems unlikely though.


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    #60
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Three times in a row if the case is ready to proceed seems unlikely though.


    Whatever about the judge and jury stuff by boards md, it is likely.


    The last conviction rate I have seen published is 58%.


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    #61
    Get Real
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    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    Just going to be a man and face a problem i created myself. Just hope i can do it. It's hard though with anxiety and depression. Also hard for people to understand too.

    I'm afraid of breaking down in court, that's how low i feel.

    Op fair play for facing the problem. Just wondering if by "being a man and face a problem you created yourself" you mean you're going guilty? If that's the case, don't let the barrister/solicitor drag it out over a few separate dates for more money.

    It'll save mental anguish and having to attend on numerous days. In fact in theory, there's nothing to stop someone going guilty on day one and having it dealt with there and then. I'd wonder about the motive$ behind these numerous dates. It's you that's suffering in the long run.

    Unless of course you're going not guilty, in which case it could be given numerous dates for a number of reasons, the guard only required to attend on the actual final hearing day of the case.


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