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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    Saw them in Lisbon the other day, AMAZING! Great place to have it too.

    Same. Only back in Ireland this afternoon. Absolutely incredible gig and one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been to. Perhaps a bit too many people smoking inside the arena but didn't put a dampener on anything.

    The second new tune they played was fuggin great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Is their stuff dated? I find it difficult to tell what sounds of it's time and what feels timeless and I feel Tool falls into the latter category. But I guess it can be difficult to identify something as dated when you consumed it when it was originally released.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    S.M.B. wrote: »
    Is their stuff dated? I find it difficult to tell what sounds of it's time and what feels timeless and I feel Tool falls into the latter category. But I guess it can be difficult to identify something as dated when you consumed it when it was originally released.

    aint that the beauty of it...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Same. Only back in Ireland this afternoon. Absolutely incredible gig and one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been to. Perhaps a bit too many people smoking inside the arena but didn't put a dampener on anything.

    The second new tune they played was fuggin great.

    yeah Lisbon was surprisingly amazing, never knew anything about it. happily walked around it for days without wanting to do anything else, so cool.

    Hated the smoking in there but didnt take away too much, was class! Crowd were much tamer than they would be here though haha. Golden circle was so worth it.

    yeah invincible is amazing! Love it. The first new on descending or whatever was more like an experience, with the crazy visuals/pyramid etc, very cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Full catalogue going on streaming/digital services on Friday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    New album has a title too.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Fear Inoculum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Doubtful but would love an Irish tour date in 2020

    Band has really grown on me great sound


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I wouldn't be surprised to see them make a visit here in the next 12/18 months.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    Was also hopeful of news of them re-releasing their catalogue on vinyl, as they mentioned it a year or two ago, but no dice. Yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Treviso


    Joe Rogan podcast with Maynard was interesting enough - shows him live tweeting the news about the new album name and back catalogue being available from Friday

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-w-LFBw8Co


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    It was an entertaining interview, but there wasn't a whole lot of talk about Tool in it - just the streaming announcemt and the album title. Joe was more interested in talking about staph infections, wine and CBD oil.

    I kinda like Joe Rogan to an extent, but the amount of absolute baloney he comes out with is fairly amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    What a day to be alive

    Tool on Spotify


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭weiland79


    Listening to Tool on the cycle to work this morning !!
    ( Not that i didnt before, but its different right?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 874 ✭✭✭devildriver


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    What a day to be alive

    Tool on Spotify

    Yeah was a bit shocked to see Tool trending on Twitter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    My playlists just got a little better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    Arghus wrote: »
    It was an entertaining interview, but there wasn't a whole lot of talk about Tool in it - just the streaming announcemt and the album title. Joe was more interested in talking about staph infections, wine and CBD oil.

    I kinda like Joe Rogan to an extent, but the amount of absolute baloney he comes out with is fairly amazing.

    Yep. I don't mind the usual Roganisms but it actually seemed like Maynard wanted to discuss the album and the album title etc. but Joe was content to change subject as quickly as possible to talk about the stuff that him and Maynard always talk about. He definitely has barely listened to few minutes of Tool's music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Dero




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭weiland79


    Sitting here listening to Aenima in the kitchen. The wife says it just sounds like noise. What is wrong with some people? Ill have to re evalute our relationship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭weiland79


    Mods any chance we could get a thread title change? Tool would probably work just fine.


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    weiland79 wrote: »
    Listening to Tool on the cycle to work this morning !!
    ( Not that i didnt before, but its different right?)

    Ha snap, my legs seemed to have new energy on "bastard" hill today :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Like stepping back in a time machine listening to many of these songs.

    I hadn't actually properly listened to Tool for years, maybe the odd tune here and there, but, yeah, it had been many years.

    Not that I'd forgotten them - Most of the songs, basically all of Aenima and Lateralus and two thirds of everything else, are hardwired into my brain after countless, countless listens back in the day: you never really forget that stuff that made you.

    Some talk online about whether things have been compressed or mixed/mastered slightly differently - I'm not even going to pretend I understand all the levels of technicality. Hard to say, things sound pretty close to how I remember them.

    Have to say, they're kinda business geniuses: the timing of the streaming releases and the announcement of the album = titanic levels of hype.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Arghus wrote: »
    Have to say, they're kinda business geniuses: the timing of the streaming releases and the announcement of the album = titanic levels of hype.

    Agreed. Not to mention going on Rogan the day of the announcement.


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    How are those itunes albums charts looking for them .....

    https://kworb.net/aww/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭gucci


    Arghus wrote: »
    Have to say, they're kinda business geniuses: the timing of the streaming releases and the announcement of the album = titanic levels of hype.

    Really enjoyed the drive home from work on Friday after a full days Tool inspired productivity (including a beer at lunch which was more or less Tool talk with another fan in the office, while everyone else prattled on about work)

    I was listening to someone, forget if he was from Keane or Kaiser Cheifs, one of those guys speak on tv a few weeks ago how they have changed their song writing style for some of the songs on their new album, because you really need to grab listeners in the first 20/30 seconds on streaming platforms...…..and I was thinking of that when I was listening to the epic intros on the Tool stuff.
    A very different audience of course, but funny to think of the type of "artist" that qualifies success by clicks or by how whether they are actually happy with how it sounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    fyfe79 wrote: »
    Was also hopeful of news of them re-releasing their catalogue on vinyl, as they mentioned it a year or two ago, but no dice. Yet.

    Ha, it seems like good news! This Dutch site is selling the new album and mentions that the others on vinyl are on the way....

    https://www.hoeshop.nl/a-56948912/welkom/tool-fear-inoculum-lp-versie/#description

    "The older albums Undertow, Aenima, Lateralus and 10,000 Days are also remastered on vinyl for the first time"


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    So Fear Inoculum will have 7 tracks, and is around 80 minutes in length...

    https://loudwire.com/new-tool-album-80-minutes-seven-tracks/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    So Fear Inoculum will have 7 tracks, and is around 80 minutes in length...

    https://loudwire.com/new-tool-album-80-minutes-seven-tracks/

    Now that's the kind of song length I can get on board with. Can't wait!


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    A breakdown of some of the parts of Schism
    https://soundcloud.com/theklossessions/tool-schism


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 874 ✭✭✭devildriver


    weiland79 wrote: »
    Sitting here listening to Aenima in the kitchen. The wife says it just sounds like noise. What is wrong with some people? Ill have to re evalute our relationship.

    Hey! What's my wife doing in your kitchen??? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Arghus wrote: »

    it's so mad to think I was 16 the last time I heard new Tool music. My whole life has happened since then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Do I wait for the entire album or not?

    hmmmmmm


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭weiland79


    Well its unmistakably Tool and feels like it could have been released on 10,000 days.
    I like it, but it hasnt knocked anything off my 'Id love to hear that live list'.
    It says we are still bad ass musicians, but for me it meanders along just a bit too much with not enough hard rock pay off except for the last minute where that hard Metallica One sounding riff kicks in.
    The bass throughout is bad ass, but Maynard i felt never really gets into second gear.

    Should you wait for the full album?

    It may play better in the context of the full album alright.

    7.5/10


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭weiland79


    I should clarify that I'll still be listening to it on repeat for the next 2 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    I caved in and listened although I do think based on the interviews that it'll work a lot better as part of a full album listen.

    On first listen it feels like a mash up of riffs and moments from previous Tool albums with Maynard bringing a bit of APC to the table.

    If it was released by another band I would consider it to be super derivative. Because its Tool I'm wondering if some AI helped put it together or whether it's repeated motifs are part of the bigger picture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    definitely feels very derivative to these ears. It's ike Tool have forgotten how to be Tool so they're trying too hard to write a Tool song, if you get me.

    Will reserve full opinion until I listen to album, it could indeed work better in context. New tunes on the live set definitely more interesting standalone than this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I'm in two minds about it myself. There's parts of it I like: the intro is cool enough, there's passages here and there that are really good, but a lot of it feels like they are retreading old ground - some of the riffs are astonishingly close to what they've done before, there's drum parts that are exactly like the drumming on reflection and the climax of the song sounds too close to Eulogy for me. Feels a lot like Tool doing a Tool cover, rather than something that'll blow your mind.

    Maynard sounds very much in APC mode as well, which I'm not too sure about: I thought their album last year was pretty bland and forgettable.

    It's not bad and there's a lot of unrealistic expectations for them to deliver a mind-blowing piece of music after thirteen years and, sure, maybe in an album context it'll sound a lot better.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    The new song is rather boring. It just re-threads old ground and offers nothing new.
    The new logo and artwork are fairly bad too.

    5/10
    S.M.B. wrote: »
    Because its Tool I'm wondering if some AI helped put it together.
    This is what I was thinking. It sounds like an AI-generated Tool song.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    Really trying to get into this band but just can't. The new song sounds like old Tool, which is fine, but it's not as exciting and as ground breaking as some of the YT comments make out. Take out all the fancy drum fills and it's bog standard enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,892 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    The physical release is about $45 and over here about €99(Tower Records)....

    How the hell does that translate?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    I believe there is a physical release that has some sort of inbuilt media player of sorts? Is that the version that'll cost €99?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Yeah, it has an lcd screen and speakers. I ordered one from Amazon US yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,892 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Yeah, it has an lcd screen and speakers. I ordered one from Amazon US yesterday.

    For 45 dollars?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    evad_lhorg wrote: »
    For 45 dollars?

    works out at €66 with delivery I think, then there may be customs? Not sure if it's already included in the €66 that I heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    New track is really growing on me. Can't wait for the album.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    works out at €66 with delivery I think, then there may be customs? Not sure if it's already included in the €66 that I heard.

    Yep. It estimates a tenner customs in that, I think. Mine was about €58 delivered.

    I saw Wowcd have it for 35 sterling. Ive a feeling that won't go ahead. I've even a feeling my Amazon one could end up being dearer, somehow too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Yep. It estimates a tenner customs in that, I think. Mine was about €58 delivered.

    I saw Wowcd have it for 35 sterling. Ive a feeling that won't go ahead. I've even a feeling my Amazon one could end up being dearer, somehow too.


    Just ordered it from wowhd for €37. Why do you think it won't go ahead, too cheap?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    rickyjb wrote: »
    Just ordered it from wowhd for €37. Why do you think it won't go ahead, too cheap?

    I think the may have guesstimated wrong, as it's £80 on HMV for example, but I could be wrong. If they ship it for that, happy days!


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