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Fiesta ST 1.6 Ecoboost 180bhp 6 speed.

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    #1382
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    PCeeeee wrote:
    Does any dealer have the new one?

    I'm told not. I'll have to order one.


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    #1383
    CR 7
    Registered Users Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭CR 7


    Donnelly117 wrote: »
    What specs/criteria are you looking for?

    Still looking now and just checked in on this thread again. There's only been one or two show up in the last few months and all seem fairly overpriced considering the discounts at the time. 161 ST2s in blue seem to be always 19-20k when they show up, which would be hard to justify if they do similar discounts again on the new one anytime soon.


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    #1384
    PCeeeee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    CR 7 wrote: »
    Still looking now and just checked in on this thread again. There's only been one or two show up in the last few months and all seem fairly overpriced considering the discounts at the time. 161 ST2s in blue seem to be always 19-20k when they show up, which would be hard to justify if they do similar discounts again on the new one anytime soon.

    19k for a 16 is an insane price.


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    #1385
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    http://www.backroads.ie/forums/showthread.php?27768-2013-Ford-Fiesta-ST-2


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    #1386
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I'm waiting for the 192 offers (if they actually materialise).


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    #1387
    dar83
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    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    I'm waiting for the 192 offers (if they actually materialise).

    There's genuinely no reason to buy a Ford these days unless it's on offer, as you just know it will be at some point! :p


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    #1388
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    19k for a 16 is an insane price.

    It is. I traded my '161 for €15k last summer. It was highish mileage at 78kms but it was immaculate. It sold in less than a week and the sticker price was €15,950


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    #1389
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    dar83 wrote: »
    There's genuinely no reason to buy a Ford these days unless it's on offer, as you just know it will be at some point! :p

    Discounted or not a new ST2 with a list price starting at €25,277 isn't (comparatively) that bad.

    p.s. It's actually less than the ST1 starting point from the previous model.


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    #1390
    dar83
    Registered Users Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    That isn't bad at all, no. Depending on the starting spec at ST2 these days, because ST1 spec used to be pretty terrible.

    But even in saying that, still no point in buying one at that price when you know it will be discounted at some point and probably buyable at 22/23k, which is an even better deal


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    #1391
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    I thought Ford are only offering the ST3 now here?

    Specced one the other day, 5 door ST3 with metallic, PP and LED headlights comes in at approx €31k. Comparatively still not bad but you'd be hoping for some discounts maybe for the 201 reg period


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    #1392
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    ST2 still appears on the configurator.


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    #1393
    SaintsYB
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    dar83 wrote: »
    That isn't bad at all, no. Depending on the starting spec at ST2 these days, because ST1 spec used to be pretty terrible.

    But even in saying that, still no point in buying one at that price when you know it will be discounted at some point and probably buyable at 22/23k, which is an even better deal

    Which trim level are you talking about at €22k/€23k? Hardly the ST3?


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    #1394
    CR 7
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    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    I'm waiting for the 192 offers (if they actually materialise).

    They were advertising the 192 offers on the radio this morning, low PCP rates but no mention of discounts (yet).


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    #1395
    dar83
    Registered Users Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    SaintsYB wrote: »
    Which trim level are you talking about at €22k/€23k? Hardly the ST3?

    I was basing the figure off Henry's ST2 figures. Using the previous discounts that have been given by Ford on the ST models as guide on how much it might be discounted by.


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    #1396
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    dar83 wrote:
    I was basing the figure off Henry's ST2 figures. Using the previous discounts that have been given by Ford on the ST models as guide on how much it might be discounted by.


    Not sure it'll happen tbh, or even if it does the discount might be modest.

    If it does happen however I'll be ordering.....


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    #1397
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    I think I'll wait for the Focus ST, price depending.

    My 161 Fiesta ST hasnt missed a beat and I love the car but the interior and trim is out of date by about a decade at this stage.


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    #1398
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Focus ST announced in UK at £32k. Depending on emissions/VRT i'd expect a minimum mid 40s price here for it.


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    #1399
    GavRedKing
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    hooch-85 wrote: »
    Focus ST announced in UK at £32k. Depending on emissions/VRT i'd expect a minimum mid 40s price here for it.

    Ya, I think the last one was roughly €43/44k without discounts/offers here although that figure could be off from my memory.


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    #1400
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    It gets a 2.3l engine this time.


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    #1401
    SaintsYB
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    It gets a 2.3l engine this time.

    Surely they can't put the price up too much though? That's what Mercedes did though. The A35 is the same price as the old A45 despite it being down some 80hp. If the A35 is €60k, how much will the A45 be?

    I'd consider a Focus ST but if it's the same price as the old RS, no thanks, I'll leave it.


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    #1402
    Henry Ford III
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    SaintsYB wrote: »
    Surely they can't put the price up too much though? That's what Mercedes did though. The A35 is the same price as the old A45 despite it being down some 80hp. If the A35 is €60k, how much will the A45 be?

    I'd consider a Focus ST but if it's the same price as the old RS, no thanks, I'll leave it.

    I'd agree. Outgoing RS was north of €50k though.

    p.s. Focus ST has never been a good new buy from a cost perspective imho.


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    #1403
    Phileas Frog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Phileas Frog


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    I'd agree. Outgoing RS was north of €50k though.

    p.s. Focus ST has never been a good new buy from a cost perspective imho.

    Especially not when you change your car every year.

    Where did the prices for the A35 come from? What are they - they're not on the price list on the website... Will there be a CLA35?


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    #1404
    GavRedKing
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    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    It gets a 2.3l engine this time.

    I'd imagine its a de-tuned Mustang/Mk3 RS engine.

    280bhp in the new ST instead of the 345bhp from the RS or 310bhp from the Mustang.

    Although i think Ford de-tuned the original 2.3 ecoboost to 280 BHP for newer Mustangs.


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    #1405
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    I'd agree. Outgoing RS was north of €50k though.

    p.s. Focus ST has never been a good new buy from a cost perspective imho.

    The GTi is a better car IMO, residuals on the VW will be much better when you go to sell down the line.

    A GTi though have always been a bit bland for me though because they're nearly every where, flip side of that is, they're everywhere because they're a cracking car. :o

    If I'm changing at the end of the year, I will look at what VW are offering finance/PCP wise though.


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    #1406
    SaintsYB
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    Phileas Frog wrote: »

    Where did the prices for the A35 come from? What are they - they're not on the price list on the website... Will there be a CLA35?

    The A35 price is on the Mercedes Ireland website. It starts at €57,310 and that's for your bog standard one that will look like a normal A Class in AMG Line spec.

    There's a A35 hatchback, A35 saloon and CLA35. There will also be a A45 and CLA45 but no A45 saloon. I think it's pretty pointless having both the CLA and A Class saloon to be honest.


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    #1407
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Focus sounds promising..

    https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/2019-ford-focus-st-ph-meets/40246


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    #1408
    Phileas Frog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Phileas Frog


    SaintsYB wrote: »
    The A35 price is on the Mercedes Ireland website. It starts at €57,310 and that's for your bog standard one that will look like a normal A Class in AMG Line spec.

    There's a A35 hatchback, A35 saloon and CLA35. There will also be a A45 and CLA45 but no A45 saloon. I think it's pretty pointless having both the CLA and A Class saloon to be honest.

    Thanks, I see it now. I think the A250 or CLA250 with Premium Plus pack is the way to go so...


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    #1409
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Looks like there is to be no discounting for 192.


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    #1410
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    5 door ST3 in stock in Navan, €32.5k:eek:

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-st-3-1-5-ecoboost-200ps-5-door/21907985


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    #1411
    wcooba
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    hooch-85 wrote: »
    5 door ST3 in stock in Navan, €32.5k:eek:

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-st-3-1-5-ecoboost-200ps-5-door/21907985

    I was inquiring about it - it's already sold. Ford had another one in stock - also sold within a week.


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