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2019 In Between Grand Slam Thread

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    #392
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,840 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    3 single handed backhanders in the last 4. First time since 1998, apparently. So much for it dying out


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    #393
    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    walshb wrote: »
    You are spot on. Age is important, but not as much in tennis...

    Sure, you slow down and aren't as fast to cover distances etc, but it's a real slow slow decline. A man in his early to mid 30s, is still a young and strong man....

    Get to 40 and over, and the decline increases....and, of course, injuries happen a lot in the sport; so if you can stay injury free, you can still be very competitive into your 30s and late 30s.

    Plenty rests in tennis, and lulls in the action. Cardio fitness is important, but these lads don't need to be like middle distance runners or boxers, or even soccer players...

    That's why all this PEDs nonsense talk in tennis baffles me, as if what these lads are doing is beyond belief...It's nowhere near beyond belief..

    They are simply young enough men playing tennis day in and day out

    The whole "how can so and so play for 5 and 6 hours." Well, for starters, he is not playing for 5 or 6 hours, and not near that time....

    You've obviously never played tennis because what you said there is completely inaccurate from start to finish.


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    #394
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 54,683 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    AllForIt wrote: »
    You've obviously never played tennis because what you said there is completely inaccurate from start to finish.

    You’ll need to break that down, so. Your one liner won’t cut it..

    Point out exactly the inaccuracies of what I have said....

    I stand by it all. Nothing at all inaccurate.


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    #395
    walshb
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    Roger’s match is live on BBC 2 at 14:00.


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    #396
    walshb
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    Fed just lost set 1 6-3


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    #397
    walshb
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    Fed gone.Very flat today!


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    #398
    velo.2010
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    I think the dam is about to burst with this new crop of young talented players - if it already hasn't!

    We expected it with the likes of Raonic, Dimitrov and Tomic a few years ago, but the other five players here look the business. And not forgetting Shapovalov and a couple of others just outside the top ten who show promise.


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    #399
    jr86
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    I think the dam is about to burst with this new crop of young talented players - if it already hasn't!

    We expected it with the likes of Raonic, Dimitrov and Tomic a few years ago, but the other five players here look the business. And not forgetting Shapovalov and a couple of others just outside the top ten who show promise.

    2020 has to be the year we get a new slam winner

    Djokovic is far more inconsistent these days, I can't see Federer ever winning a non Wimbledon major again and probably never Wimbledon again either, and Nadal seems to always have an injury cloud hanging over him


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    #400
    mzungu
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    I think the dam is about to burst with this new crop of young talented players - if it already hasn't!

    Aye, I do have a feeling that 2020 will see a new name on a GS trophy.


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    #401
    mzungu
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    jr86 wrote: »
    2020 has to be the year we get a new slam winner

    Djokovic is far more inconsistent these days, I can't see Federer ever winning a non Wimbledon major again and probably never Wimbledon again either, and Nadal seems to always have an injury cloud hanging over him

    Djokovic will still be dangerous for another few years, but his form has gone up and down the past year. Unreal performances followed by mediocre (by his high standards). Nadal still has the FO if he keeps himself free of injury and you wouldn't bet against him bagging one or two of the others while he is at it. As for Fed, I hope I am wrong, but that championship point at Wimbledon may prove to be the nearest he will get.


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    #402
    grebonato
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    Do you know any good pub/bar in Dublin to watch the final this evening?


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    #403
    Joe_ Public
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    grebonato wrote: »
    Do you know any good pub/bar in Dublin to watch the final this evening?

    Trinity sports bar up on dame st would be my shout. Not my fav bar but they will definitely be showing it anyway.


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    #404
    Loafing Oaf
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    And Thiem breaks back. Anybody's game now


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    #405
    walshb
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    Final set TB!


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    #406
    Loafing Oaf
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    And a tie break it is. Slightly fancy Tsitsipas. Maybe more capable of pulling out a few spectaculars


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    #407
    mzungu
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    Some good hitting there from Thiem.


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    #408
    mzungu
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    Unreal backhand. The depth on it!!


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    #409
    mzungu
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    The stuff of nightmares that forehand was.


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    #410
    walshb
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    Delighted for Greek lad!


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    #411
    Loafing Oaf
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    Wow. Three-set games never feel like the real deal to me but I'll make an exception for that one:D


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    #412
    mzungu
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    Fair play to Tsitsipas. Great match from both of them.


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    #413
    jr86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Really enjoyed that

    Hope Tsitsipas becomes the real deal

    He's an absolute marketing dream for the sport. Good to watch, extremely photogenic and a good personality to boot!


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    #414
    josip
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    Pighead wrote: »
    Shockingly your prediction was wrong. Nadal out.


    And that's the last you'll hear from Hector until the first round of the next tournament when the others may as well withdraw since Nadal is nailed on to win it.


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    #415
    lostcat
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    one of the better end of year tournaments in recent years, a handful of very high quality matches and an exciting final.

    With only one of the 'big 3' making the semis, it may be the middle of the start of the future...or something. I'm looking forward to next year with some interest now.


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    #416
    Floppybits
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    After the ATP Finals I am looking forward to next year. I hope to see the big 3 challenged by these up and coming youngsters. Add into the mix the likes of Murray and Del Potro with their low rankings coming up against the higher seeds early in the tournaments. Zverev needs to work on the mental side of his game or he will be find himself been passed by the Medvedev, Tsiptsipas and Berrettini.


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    #417
    jr86
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    lostcat wrote: »
    one of the better end of year tournaments in recent years, a handful of very high quality matches and an exciting final.

    With only one of the 'big 3' making the semis, it may be the middle of the start of the future...or something. I'm looking forward to next year with some interest now.

    The younger guns are getting a lot more joy in the Masters' events these days and that's now also applying to the Tour Finals, with none of the last 4 winners being members of the big 3. Hopefully it soon transfers to the slams

    Almost forgot that 2020 is an Olympics year too. Given its the other side of the world from the North American hard court swing I'd expect a poor participation rate tbh. I can't see the likes of Nadal or Djokovic being too pushed either, the slam count - and upcoming US Open - will be their priority


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    #418
    lostcat
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    jr86 wrote: »
    Almost forgot that 2020 is an Olympics year too. Given its the other side of the world from the North American hard court swing I'd expect a poor participation rate tbh. I can't see the likes of Nadal or Djokovic being too pushed either, the slam count - and upcoming US Open - will be their priority

    Djokovic would, I think, give up a slam for a gold medal
    Federer will be keen to get one also to fill out the collection

    its the last chance for both of of them. I would expect a solid enough turn out overall.


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    #419
    jr86
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    Djokovic will turn up for sure and make all the right noises PR wise, but privately I'd say there's 0% chance he'd swap a gold medal for a slam.

    It would be a nice swansong to Federer's career perhaps, but I'd be very surprised if ND didn't fully prioritise reclaiming the US Open title.

    As for participation, well Rio had plenty big names pull out and that's the same side of the world as north america.

    The North American masters series and obviously US Open are where the ranking points and $$$ are to be won


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    #420
    whiterebel
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    3 Priorities next year - Fed for the Olympic Gold. Nadal for the AO to do the Slam of slams x 2, and the same for ND at the French.


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    #421
    lostcat
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    jr86 wrote: »
    Djokovic will turn up for sure and make all the right noises PR wise, but privately I'd say there's 0% chance he'd swap a gold medal for a slam.

    It would be a nice swansong to Federer's career perhaps, but I'd be very surprised if ND didn't fully prioritise reclaiming the US Open title.

    As for participation, well Rio had plenty big names pull out and that's the same side of the world as north america.

    The North American masters series and obviously US Open are where the ranking points and $$$ are to be won

    I wont labour the point further after this, but I think you are wrong about how much Djokovic would like a gold medal for his country, its not personal or $$.

    in other news, hard to know what to make of this new Davis Cup, it might pick up over the weekend, but it obviously lacks the old electric 'home crowd athmosphere at the moment.


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