New housing developments in Maynooth

ixus · 05-10-2016 4:55pm

Are you sure North City are doing next phase, there are a couple of builders?

My understanding, and open to correction, is the final phase cannot be completed until the Ring Road is built as part of Planning. This could be BS though.

Maybe, the deal is they can't build until current phase is complete buy other builder? I'm not sure, from looking at it, exactly what is left to be built. The showhouse road?

filemoon · 06-10-2016 7:35am

Hi.

I'm not sure who the builder is.

They will be much more houses to build there

They change the plans, as they expect run another phase now (4x5det, 4x4semi + ...).

Is there any chance go to the source as Coonas are not very good to share what is gooing on (they told me they have planning issue). Do we know who the source is?

I will not recommend Hayfield as is to close to Motorway (noisy).

ixus · 06-10-2016 7:52am

You could go down to the current site and ask to speak to the foreman. They may be able to tell you future plans.

donspeekinglesh · 06-10-2016 8:41am

ixus wrote: »

Are you sure North City are doing next phase, there are a couple of builders?

My understanding, and open to correction, is the final phase cannot be completed until the Ring Road is built as part of Planning. This could be BS though.

Maybe, the deal is they can't build until current phase is complete buy other builder? I'm not sure, from looking at it, exactly what is left to be built. The showhouse road?

From An Bord Pleanála:

25. (1) The proposed development shall be phased.
(2) Only house numbers 1-22 the Avenue and numbers 1-12 the
Vale and the creche in The Dale shall be occupied until the
Proposed Outer Relief Road (identified as the Distributor Road
on Register Reference 02/2491/An Bord Pleanala reference PL
09.206437) has been completed to the county boundary to the
satisfaction of the planning authority.
(3) The remainder of the development shall not be occupied until
the Proposed Outer Relief Road has been completed to the
county boundary to the satisfaction of the planning authority.
Reason: In the interest of orderly development, traffic safety and to
comply with the policies and objectives set out in the Maynooth Local
Area Plan 2013 and having regard to the planning history of the overall
landholding, of which the application site forms part, and which
included a condition attached to planning register reference number
02/2491, An Bord Pleanála reference number PL 09.206437 that the
Proposed Outer Relief Road (identified as the Distributor Road as per
planning register reference number 02/2491) would be completed to
the county boundary prior to the occupation of the final phase of the
development.

Mycete Homes are the other builder.

L1011 · 06-10-2016 9:10am

"completed to the county boundary" = nowhere near actually done, its actually only maybe 200m more of the stub that's already there. The ringroad needs to run through Meath.

Orion · 06-10-2016 1:22pm

I seem to recall that Meath have approved their part of the ring road but open to correction on that.

L1011 · 06-10-2016 1:53pm

Orion wrote: »

I seem to recall that Meath have approved their part of the ring road but open to correction on that.

Its approved but it relies on developer funding/construction which is not guaranteed.

filemoon · 08-10-2016 5:50pm

Thank you for update.

Regards Chris

Lastblackdog · 13-10-2016 8:15am

In the new housing development (opposite the garden centre on the Dublin road) the contractor has dug a very large and deep pit not far from the main entrance.

Anyone have any idea what this is for? Never seen this done before.

It is big enough and deep enough to bury a couple of large JCB's!

secman · 13-10-2016 8:19am

Lastblackdog wrote: »

In the new housing development (opposite the garden centre on the Dublin road) the contractor has dug a very large and deep pit not far from the main entrance.

Anyone have any idea what this is for? Never seen this done before.

It is big enough and deep enough to bury a couple of large JCB's!

It's for the subcontractors, builders like to bury them

filemoon · 13-10-2016 8:53am

Hi.

I'm just thinking about this estate but prices and plans are not available yet.
They told me they should be on market soon (1-2 months) - but I have no more details.

L1011 · 13-10-2016 9:10am

Lastblackdog wrote: »

In the new housing development (opposite the garden centre on the Dublin road) the contractor has dug a very large and deep pit not far from the main entrance.

Anyone have any idea what this is for? Never seen this done before.

It is big enough and deep enough to bury a couple of large JCB's!

Surface water attenuation tank I'd imagine. By covering that much ground in concrete you massively reduce its percolation capabilities and to avoid causing local flooding when it rains you need to hold surface water and release it at a more measured rate.

lordgoat · 16-10-2016 3:21pm

The lack of areas zones for something other than residential in maynooth is alarming. Anyone moving there should take into consideration the whole town is going to be mainly a car park in about 4 years time.

Does the lack of designated green spaces worry buyers?

ixus · 18-10-2016 5:43pm

Carton Wood house types. No prices yet.

http://oldwww.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/carton-wood-maynooth-kildare/3810129

IrishAlice · 19-10-2016 9:49am

lordgoat wrote: »

The lack of areas zones for something other than residential in maynooth is alarming. Anyone moving there should take into consideration the whole town is going to be mainly a car park in about 4 years time.

Does the lack of designated green spaces worry buyers?

It worries me. We bought two years ago in an older estate in Maynooth and the amount of new housing estates going up is alarming.

There hasn't been anything done to tackle the traffic congestion in the town and the only forward planning seems to be to stuff as many houses in as possible.

The town didn't have much green space to begin with but soon there'll be none.

Staplor · 19-10-2016 10:25am

Traffic situation is a joke, take Hayfield as an example, it adds traffic to an already congested road, the solution could have been to have Hayfield exit at the Lidl lights, instead they join the already big queue of traffic.

However, part of Hayfield's planning was the developer was to install lights before anyone moved in. The developer has apparently paid the money to Kildare Co Co, but, they haven't bothered to put in the lights because they were having a look at traffic management in the town.

So they did the survey (when the students were away) and used "complex maths" to allow for the adjustment to the traffic survey to allow for this. Where's the lights at the junction? Nowhere. What has happened to the funds the developer paid the Co Co?

The only solution to the Maynooth traffic congestion is a second motorway exit at the Kilcock side to allow the college traffic avoid the town.

IrishAlice · 19-10-2016 10:47am

Just what Maynooth needs - another set of traffic lights!

Kildare CoCo are a joke. They destroyed the junction at Maxol going to Celbridge and now thery're digging up the road at the train station even though there's potholes you could swim in just up past the Lidl junction.

From what I can see there's absolutely no logic to anything they do.

filemoon · 19-10-2016 10:51am

"Just what Maynooth needs - another set of traffic lights!" - I'm not sure more lights will solve the traffic issue.

I think we are need another entrance/exit to M4.

Orion · 19-10-2016 10:57am

filemoon wrote: »

"Just what Maynooth needs - another set of traffic lights!" - I'm not sure more lights will solve the traffic issue.

I think we are need another entrance/exit to M4.

That's what Alice meant I think. FTI - a new pedestrian light is going in between Silkenvale and the train station too. That will bring the number of lights from Maxol to the college to 10 - ludicrous. 5 between Maxol and Main Street ffs.

ixus · 19-10-2016 12:12pm

And now we have Water maintenance works on the Dublin and Dunboyne road for the next 3wks. LOL.

Two major routes with road works for extended periods of time during the busiest period for schools and the University. Nothing done in the Summer.

Also, I've confirmed with builder in Moyglare Hall they can't complete until that Ring Road section is done. Cairn will probably be finshed by then! This also means no, much needed, pedestrian entrance on the Moyglare Rd cutting walking time by 20/30mins and reducing traffic into the town....

Can't wait for this Traffic Management Plan, due in October..

kidneyfan · 19-10-2016 6:48pm

Should be locals only.

lordgoat · 19-10-2016 8:27pm

Orion wrote: »

That's what Alice meant I think. FTI - a new pedestrian light is going in between Silkenvale and the train station too. That will bring the number of lights from Maxol to the college to 10 - ludicrous. 5 between Maxol and Main Street ffs.

Wow, more pedestrian lights... that is hilarious. You can drive from Maynooth to Mlain and Mizen head and encounter less traffic lights that from the motorway to Moyglare... And also to Achill.

kidneyfan wrote: »

Should be locals only.

Should have a town and county council not concerned with putting up as many houses as possible...

Orion · 19-10-2016 9:17pm

Lights between M4 Maynooth and Carrick-on-Shannon - 0
Lights between M4 Maynooth and Maynooth Town - 7.

Go figure.

Staplor · 20-10-2016 8:46am

Orion wrote: »

Lights between M4 Maynooth and Carrick-on-Shannon - 0
Lights between M4 Maynooth and Maynooth Town - 7.

Go figure.

To be fair, the lack of lights on primary roads is to be applauded, for traffic management in towns lights remain a necessity.

Orion · 20-10-2016 9:35am

Staplor wrote: »

To be fair, the lack of lights on primary roads is to be applauded, for traffic management in towns lights remain a necessity.

A necessity yes - but so many of them is crazy.

Staplor · 20-10-2016 11:22am

Orion wrote: »

A necessity yes - but so many of them is crazy.

Absolutely

kidneyfan · 21-10-2016 6:55am

Orion wrote: »

A necessity yes - but so many of them is crazy.

Not enough IMO

lordgoat · 21-10-2016 6:37pm

kidneyfan wrote: »

Not enough IMO

There really is always one!

fmc3105 · 22-10-2016 6:31pm

Staplor wrote: »

Traffic situation is a joke, take Hayfield as an example, it adds traffic to an already congested road, the solution could have been to have Hayfield exit at the Lidl lights, instead they join the already big queue of traffic.

However, part of Hayfield's planning was the developer was to install lights before anyone moved in. The developer has apparently paid the money to Kildare Co Co, but, they haven't bothered to put in the lights because they were having a look at traffic management in the town.

So they did the survey (when the students were away) and used "complex maths" to allow for the adjustment to the traffic survey to allow for this. Where's the lights at the junction? Nowhere. What has happened to the funds the developer paid the Co Co?

The only solution to the Maynooth traffic congestion is a second motorway exit at the Kilcock side to allow the college traffic avoid the town.

Got this in an email from one of the CC's on Thursday -

"The Director of Services advise us at this morning’s Maynooth MD meeting that the Council has given the go ahead to the developer of Hayfield to install traffic lights at the junction as per the Planning Permission granted.

He expected them to be in place shortly."

More roadworks and chaos!

kidneyfan · 22-10-2016 6:57pm

Good. The more lights the better. Should be one at the graveyard and just as you come into Kilcock.

Staplor · 22-10-2016 6:58pm

fmc3105 wrote: »

Got this in an email from one of the CC's on Thursday -

"The Director of Services advise us at this morning’s Maynooth MD meeting that the Council has given the go ahead to the developer of Hayfield to install traffic lights at the junction as per the Planning Permission granted.

He expected them to be in place shortly."

More roadworks and chaos!

One of our locally elected officials said the developer paid the money direct to the council as the council wanted the survey first.

Someone is telling porkies

Redsoxfan · 22-10-2016 8:01pm

Apparently the new lights at Hayfield, or the junction of the Straffan and Meadowbrook Link Road if you will, will be synched with the lights at Lidl, which is something I suppose.

lordgoat · 23-10-2016 1:38pm

kidneyfan wrote: »

Good. The more lights the better. Should be one at the graveyard and just as you come into Kilcock.

Any chance of getting a few traffic lights for people posting in here?

Dolbert · 24-10-2016 3:18pm

kidneyfan wrote: »

Good. The more lights the better. Should be one at the graveyard and just as you come into Kilcock.

Triggered

Moonbeam · 24-10-2016 10:44pm

I am having issues imagining the Straffan Road worse then it is.
There are also frequent minor accidents there.
We are going to need a set of traffic lights to get on to the Straffan road from the Greenfield shops next.

69x0qfea7rndmi · 04-11-2016 5:11pm

I've been looking at all the new estates in Maynooth, crazy prices for what you're getting Sure the BER are fantastic, but small gardens, small green areas etc. but is it really worth the premium vs an older house?
Detached houses are rare and so pricey, I saw a great one in Carton Court. All the ground work done, Jacuzzi baths, GFCH, south facing private garden, big driveway for €390k.....and wouldn't have to deal with the Straffan Road. How do people feel about this area? When we viewed it was very quite, think the whole estate is a cul-de-sac:rolleyes:

L1011 · 04-11-2016 5:32pm

Most estates in Maynooth are dead ends; if anything there may be pedestrian access to another estate - there is in Carton Court

The houses are quite old so its worth checking that a renovation wasn't just skin deep. Turning right out of the estate can be tricky in heavy traffic but you will be turning left to the motorway if going that way. Estate would be mostly owner occupier and quite a few there since the 80s or longer.

TheBody · 04-11-2016 9:04pm

I see they have made the entrance, off the Straffen road, to the houses at the back of Old Greenfield. More new houses to be built there yet.

ixus · 04-11-2016 9:41pm

Kildare county council Plan has an made some alterations. Investigating the potential to extend Leixlip or, a new residential area in North Kildare north of the canal. For realz, I read it myself. Adamstown mark2.

On the older houses, you are talking 50-100k depending on size and how much you want to upgrade. Insulation, windows, plumbing, wiring, new kitchen & toilets. It will all have to be upgraded. Electricians wont certify, new gear, wnd of. But, you get better space. Problem is potential to live beside rental or students in a semi. Less likely in a new build.

You can claim VAT back (up to 40k?) and there is tax relief for increasing energy efficiency. SSEI or something if I recall? Plenty of info out there.

L1011 · 04-11-2016 10:16pm

TheBody wrote: »

I see they have made the entrance, off the Straffen road, to the houses at the back of Old Greenfield. More new houses to be built there yet.

Five or six I'd guess from aerial shots. Sell as serviced sites with OPP and I suspect they'd be snapped up in days.

TheBody · 04-11-2016 10:20pm

L1011 wrote: »

Five or six I'd guess from aerial shots. Sell as serviced sites with OPP and I suspect they'd be snapped up in days.

That road was meant to be built over 40 years ago. If you notice, the "back" row of houses on the left hand side of the existing road through Old Greenfield face the new road.

L1011 · 04-11-2016 11:00pm

The road foundations are maybe 10 years old and there were issues about where it'd exit to. The opening to the Straffan Road was decided on after the planning documents were made up for the current works though

Stealthirl · 06-11-2016 1:50am

ixus wrote: »

Kildare county council Plan has an made some alterations. Investigating the potential to extend Leixlip or, a new residential area in North Kildare north of the canal. For realz, I read it myself. Adamstown mark2.

I cant see how a new residential area north of the canal would work,the only area would be between Confey and the back of Intel or between Maynooth and Kilcock [That would necessitate a new interchange on the M4]
South of the M4 there is alot of space or even Grangewilliam between the M4 and canal

Rosahane · 06-11-2016 9:25am

Stealthirl wrote: »

I cant see how a new residential area north of the canal would work,the only area would be between Confey and the back of Intel or between Maynooth and Kilcock [That would necessitate a new interchange on the M4]
South of the M4 there is alot of space or even Grangewilliam between the M4 and canal

The Straffan road south of Maynooth and the M4 interchange would work, especially if they took the opportunity to do a significant upgrade of the M4 junction and the Maynooth bypass.

lordgoat · 06-11-2016 3:53pm

Rosahane wrote: »

The Straffan road south of Maynooth and the M4 interchange would work, especially if they took the opportunity to do a significant upgrade of the M4 junction and the Maynooth bypass.

But it is so shortsighted. All it does is congest the most densely populated parts of the country by building cheap (materials) houses and not supplying decent amenities for the area. If anything no more places like adamstown should be build.

Build better transport links from Dublin and decentralise.

Rosahane · 06-11-2016 10:13pm

lordgoat wrote: »

But it is so shortsighted. All it does is congest the most densely populated parts of the country by building cheap (materials) houses and not supplying decent amenities for the area. If anything no more places like adamstown should be build.

Build better transport links from Dublin and decentralise.

Well yes, that makes sense. But I was commenting solely in the context of the Kildare development plan.

L1011 · 08-11-2016 5:10pm

Two planning apps in:

16/1144 - change a 5 house terrace of 3 beds to 4x4 bed semid in Moyglare Hall. Likely indicates demand for bigger units

16/1153 - lands behind Lidl refused under 15/200 due to traffic and drainage concerns. Not digitised yet.

Orion · 08-11-2016 5:10pm

L1011 wrote: »

16/1153 - lands behind Lidl refused under 15/200 due to traffic and drainage concerns. Not digitised yet.

Is that where they are moving the fire station to?

L1011 · 08-11-2016 5:13pm

Orion wrote: »

Is that where they are moving the fire station to?

That, I believe, is the area that was once intended for the link road between Carton Court and Esso. Permission refused years ago for a medical centre and pharmacy there.

The link road was moved to the other side of Lidl at some point in the plans.

JDxtra · 13-11-2016 4:10pm

Attached is a copy of the price list for the homes in Carton Wood as handed out today at the launch.

New housing developments in Maynooth

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