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The Defender thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭Watch Ryder


    The good news is removing or destroying the EGR ECU does not affect the landrovers performance or operation. At least that's what the landrover guru's on another forum say...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    2 things that should be removed on a land rover is the EGR valve and the Cat , the egr is chocking your engine and the cat is holding it back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭broro22


    101sean wrote: »
    You can get kits on ebay to do away with EGRs on most vehicles. Improves breathing slightly and can't be picked up on NCT/DOE. Seems a pretty dum idea feeding dirty exhaust back in to inlet manifold just to drop NOx levels slightly.


    If being a 4x4 driver wasnt bad enough a statement like that is really going to get you on John Gormless and the cabbage squads hitlist:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭Watch Ryder


    Latest Update:

    When you have a tyre mounted on the bonnet (or hood as you would call it) the remote release mechanism struggles. Mine previously wouldn't even work without someone to lift the bonnet up while I pulled the lever. This obviously wasn't ideal and I managed to come up with something that could help :)

    While at work though I found a tough looking carriage spring and welded it onto a plate. I bolted that in here....

    The spring splate wasn't ideal though; too many rings were on it and the main spring catch wasn’t engaging.

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    Out came garth’s grinder and it was not one, not two but three rings of the spring plate sheared off before the bonnet would close. The grinders disc went through the rings with ease despite being stainless.

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    Then the moment of truth. I pulled the release lever...

    One resounding ‘klung’ later and it popped open!

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    I trimmed the release catch with some tin-snips and wrapped some tapeit. This prevented it from catching on the spring:
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    The grills went on today. They came with no instructions and were just over £60. I need to get this right with the drill otherwise my lannie will look like swiss cheese on the front end.

    But it wasn’t that straightforward. Drilling and getting the holes right was more of an art than a science, especially when there’s zero in the way of instructions for drill bit sizes. Rule of thumb cometh...

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    The rubber grommet fittings were not simple and needed a bit of modification.
    Some tape on this one to make it flush with the hole.

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    The self taping screws were to be put through thin metal. For wood this might suffice but a vibrating surface such as a veh has the potential for unscrewing. On a lannie even more so.Hence the bolts and locking nuts.

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    Mission accomplished! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Coming along nicely.

    Make sure the bonnet is securely propped when up, hurts if it drops on the back of your head ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    savage!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭DanFindy


    Ive only started looking into defenders as i would really like one, but i need extra seating, i came across this and it looks savage.
    No1 what are their faults and failings
    No2 what kinda bread would i need to part with to get me one of these(id be lookin pretty much identical to this one)
    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1016022

    All opinions gratefully recieved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    UK price on that would be 14-15k, say €18k here with the VRT etc, it's had a lot of money thrown at it but doesn't make that much difference to value. If not registered as a commercial it will cost €948 a year to tax. 110 DCs have only been around for 10 years or so, other option with seats is a Station Wagon like I have.

    How much are you looking to spend? That will determine age and engine you're likely to be looking at. Rather than listing everything to look for, narrow down the choice first. Whatever, you'll be buying on condition not age. Best buys are probably 95-98 300Tdi (€4-7k, no double cabs though) or a post 02 Td5 (€10k +).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭DanFindy


    Well im currently driving on 03 L200 i just like crew cabs and that one really caught my eye, yes it would need to be taxed commercial, i dont often carry passengers but like to have the option but couldnt justify paying more than the 288 or whatever me commecial tax is !
    But feck me 18k is a lot for an 04 wagon of any kind but i suppose its a buyers market


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Defenders hold their value, a same age Disco would be €4-5k less. Trouble is DCs aren't that common and importing a station wagon for conversion in to a utility is a pain. The load bed in a DC is very small unless you go for a 130 (there was a bargain one on DD a while back and no arguement about them being commercial). If you fancy one, keep your eye open on there and on the Ireland forum on Landroveraddicts, may find a bargain. It's easy to smarten up a scruffy one as long as the mechanicals haven't been abused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Great, we're back!

    May have been a bit OTT with value on the DC, may get that in the UK, whether there's demand to support that here, I'm not sure, make a silly offer! ;)

    An illustration of the price differentials though is an 04 Disco II commercial has been reduced to €6750 on LRA forum, early D3s are now less than 10k at auction in UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    put these on the other day and tidyed up a few other things
    painted the light surounds and grill matt black and painted rear cross member matt black too
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    when i bought my defender i noticed a small hole in the passenger side floor matt i could see outside through it so i opened the bonnet and had a closer look and i seen a much bigger hole where the previous owner must have been doing some shooting inside the defender ha ha , anyway i stripped her and fixed it during last week heres some pics

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    shot brake pipe bracket off
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    cut out bad bit
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    welded in and grinded flat
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    had to make new bracket
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    painted and wax oyled
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Nice job, you certainly went out of your way to do a proper job rather than a bodge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Proof that throwing your spare cash at a Land Rover is better than putting it in the bank!

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/investing/article.html?in_article_id=498002&in_page_id=166


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    101sean wrote: »
    Nice job, you certainly went out of your way to do a proper job rather than a bodge.

    thanks sean , if a job's worth doing its worth doing right , i really hate bodge jobs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    thanks sean , if a job's worth doing its worth doing right , i really hate bodge jobs

    Nice work there lad

    I suppose you don't want to sell it to me for a really low price by any chance do you?

    I'm currently 4x4 less and looking for one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    ha ha wouldn't part with her i'd never get one as clean for the money i paid :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    I'm surprised no one has been on here offering you beer tokens for your welding skills to patch their holey bulkhead!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    ha ha wouldn't part with her i'd never get one as clean for the money i paid :D

    Thought I'd chance my arm anyway. :D

    It's bloody spotless and it can be hard to find a clean one unless you pay big money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    A friend of a friend is selling her 08 Defender County pack with 75K miles for €17,000
    What do you experts think of that price
    Is it reasonable
    No marks other than a few scratches/briar marks
    tow bar never used
    Might treat myself
    Advice please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    08 if am right thats the new Ford puma engined defender , i don't like these they got real bad reviews , also does it have traction control if so that give trouble in them , i'd be careful , also it has high enough miles for 08 for a defender


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    Thanks Deer Hunter
    Dont know will ask and come back to you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    That's cheap although as pointed out, it is high mileage for an 08. Has it got dealer service history (should have had 4 or 5 services by now), walk away if not as warranty won't be valid and any software updates not done. The early problems with the Pumas have been sorted I believe although there's plenty of discussion about them on the UK forums.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭Watch Ryder


    You're better off with the old defenders (pre 2007, but best are pre 2001).
    Less to go wrong, less to worry about and they last forever. This new wave of lannie isn't the same breed. Too refined and trying to be 'urban'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Just to correct you on your dates, Puma engines and 6 speed boxes came in 2007. Td5 was 1998 -2006, very reliable but electronics scare some, post 02 ones best. 300Tdi 1994 - 1998, prefered by many as they have no electronics, still have a cambelt that should be changed if previous owner can't prove it's been done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭rachaelworld


    Hey guys,

    Just wanted to say great thread so far. Nice to see and feel the love on here.

    Although I am yet to own a landy as an adult, I grew up in the 70's and 80's in the back of plenty. My fathers job took us overseas, and into the deserts of Africa and jungles of Asia. He would always put down thick plywood boards on the fold down lateral seats in the back, then foam mattresses and bedding, and me and my younger sister and brother would "live" there as we drove for days into the desert with other families for our "holidays". All our gear would fit underneath and on the roof racks. The adults would sling a tarpaulin between the vehicles and they'd sleep there at nights.

    They were all friends and they were all put through a lot. I remember numerous occasions of holding on for dear life as we drove down steep dry river banks, or repeatedly bouncing and banging my head on the roof as we steamed along "roads" that consisted of many other vehicle rutts, half a mile wide, wailing at my Dad in anger. I remember getting stuck and breakdowns in the *rsehole of nowhere and my dad elbow deep in the engine, and I remember my mum having to crank the front to start on one model. I also remember sitting on the roofs with my siblings and the other kids, from the other families, looking for miles and miles as the sun set on a far away horizon.
    My first driving lesson, aged 5, I drove the thing at a type of bush that grows for hundreds of years in the soft desert sand, and the menfolk spending hours trying to dig us out, and various approaches with sand ladders. They were not very happy I recall :D

    My father was an avid photographer, he liked his cameras like his cars, fully manual and reliable, OM1's. He always had 2 ready to go, one black and white and one colour, and as a result there are many, many pics of us in and around our Landrovers, always looking dusty or sticky, and relaxed and content.

    Anyway, I have long wanted a Defender and so I periodically have a look. I bumped into this very recent thread and enjoyed the read, particularly some great pics guys, nice work. I'd love a 110 Diesel with a fixable engine, the 300 sounds good.

    Anyways, hope you don't mind me indulging in a bit of reminiscence of a Sunday afternoon. Thought yous might appreciate it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Thanks for sharing the memories :cool:

    Hope you find a decent Defender, don't write off the Td5 though unless you are totally leaving civilisation, they are very reliable and fixable, you can get devices to talk to the electronics so you don't need a dealer (I have a Nanocom, around £230). The 300Tdi is still a good engine though (was available in ROW export Defenders until 2006)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    sean will you post up some pics of your 101 FC :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭DF1


    101sean wrote: »
    Thanks for sharing the memories :cool:

    Hope you find a decent Defender, don't write off the Td5 though unless you are totally leaving civilisation, they are very reliable and fixable, you can get devices to talk to the electronics so you don't need a dealer (I have a Nanocom, around £230). The 300Tdi is still a good engine though (was available in ROW export Defenders until 2006)


    Do you have much experience of the nanocom ?
    I recently got a new key fob and programmed it in with the nanocom via pc. It took me a while to figure out now myimmobiliser light is constantly on but it drives fine.
    Any idea how I turn it off ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    That's odd, shouldn't start with that light on! Did you have to use the EKA code routine to get it to work or just use the Nanocom to get Alarm to talk to the fob?

    I've saved myself and my brother in law a heap of money with the Nanocom but it can be tempremental and the manual translation from Italian to English isn't great :rolleyes: There are alternatives but are more expensive and locked to one vehicle type or even to a chassis number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    With pleasure DH :D
    Off roading on Salisbury Plain a couple of years ago.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    really starting to like these , you keep yours in very mint condition too , very nice indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    It's not that mint, you should see some UK examples! It is pretty straight and original though but with some minor mods for comfort and reliability (comfy seats, Facet pump, SU carbs, electronic ignition, overdrive). Beauty of something with no curves and matt green paint, doesn't take much to make them look good :D

    I have the matching trailer as well that carries all my camping kit ( I don't travel light :rolleyes:). Have a NATO hitch and NATO electrics on the 110 so I can tow it with that as well
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    To get this Defender thread back on track, here's what one (and a load of other privately owned MVs) looks like out the back of a 101 on Salisbury Plain :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭Builderfromhell


    Super pics there Sean.
    Love the motors & trailer.
    I've a Mk3 Hilux single cab myself but have always loved Defenders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭Mr.Boots


    Mental Note.......must get myself and defender to Salisbury plain.
    The more i see of it the more i want to go.
    Is there any decent wild camping to be had on the plain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Most of the plain is a military training area and no camping is permitted. It's criss crossed by 100s of miles of public rights of way but these may be closed a few times a year when there's live firing. Never ever stray off the byways (not all tracks are rights of way) as not everything goes bang when it lands :eek:, watch out for tanks crossing and don't upset the Range Wardens.

    The byways extend beyond the military areas and some are wide enough to stop overnight on (there's one right behind Stonehenge), there's also campsites around. Some fantastic off roading, Total Off Road magazine recently did a roadbook and did a 250mile one a couple of years ago that took 2 days to do. Easy enough to plan your own, byways are clearly marked on OS maps of the area.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭Watch Ryder


    101sean wrote: »
    Just to correct you on your dates, Puma engines and 6 speed boxes came in 2007. Td5 was 1998 -2006, very reliable but electronics scare some, post 02 ones best. 300Tdi 1994 - 1998, prefered by many as they have no electronics, still have a cambelt that should be changed if previous owner can't prove it's been done.

    Sure but there are landrovers available after 1998 that have the 300 TDI engine in it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    Sure but there are landrovers available after 1998 that have the 300 TDI engine in it :)

    their only for export and in lhd called them ROW rest of world spec


  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭DF1


    101sean wrote: »
    That's odd, shouldn't start with that light on! Did you have to use the EKA code routine to get it to work or just use the Nanocom to get Alarm to talk to the fob?

    I've saved myself and my brother in law a heap of money with the Nanocom but it can be tempremental and the manual translation from Italian to English isn't great :rolleyes: There are alternatives but are more expensive and locked to one vehicle type or even to a chassis number.

    Found the manual a complete waste of time.
    Just connected the nanocom to laptop and paired the key fob tghrough this.
    Done a good bit of routing around with nanocom before i figured out how to pair these, maybe i turned something on ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    whats the considered opinion on the current defender with the transit engine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Never driven one myself so can't comment. I believe there were a few transmission problems early on (has a 6 speed getrag box).

    If you search Puma on any UK LR forum you'll find plenty of threads about them.
    http://www.defender2.net/forum/puma-tdci-vf19.html
    http://www.landroveraddict.com/smf/index.php?board=7.0
    http://forum.landrovernet.com/forumdisplay.php/69-Land-Rover-Defender
    http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showforum=9


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    I sat in the my first one the other day.

    The dash looks totally out of place in it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Yea, no more fresh air vents :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    It just looks totally cumbersome. I was expecting to see where they had chopped the sides off it to make it fit.

    It probably leaves the cab even more cramped than usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    they tried to modernise the defender too much , and the new one planed for 2013 i fear will be nothing like a defender , i think it should raise the value of the older ones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    101sean wrote: »
    Never driven one myself so can't comment. I believe there were a few transmission problems early on (has a 6 speed getrag box).

    If you search Puma on any UK LR forum you'll find plenty of threads about them.
    http://www.defender2.net/forum/puma-tdci-vf19.html
    http://www.landroveraddict.com/smf/index.php?board=7.0
    http://forum.landrovernet.com/forumdisplay.php/69-Land-Rover-Defender
    http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showforum=9
    Thanks Sean
    I think I am more confused than ever
    Its so hard to get an older clean Defender that hasnt been daily hauling a cattle trailer to marts and factories with 4 tonne of beef on board or ex building site never serviced
    An 08 has the obvious benefits but there seems a to be a lot of negatives about Puma


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    You may be better off bringing one in from the UK, far more choice. Pick up one of the comics when you're passing Easons, Land Rover Owner isn't my favourite (LR Monthly is :)) but it has the most adverts.


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