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Who s behind the Gardai road checks?

  • 05-01-2019 2:31am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭


    I dont think my locality (rural Mayo) is any different but for whatever reason in the last few months the amount of Garda checkpoints etc has been ramped up to an incredible degree, they are everywhere at all hours, breathalyzers, tax checks, speeding etc. I mean it makes zero sense for a force that was always complaining and maybe rightly so about being under resourced. obv a decison has been taken at a high level and im wondering by whom and for what reason?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭uch


    I'd say the Gardaí

    21/25



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    Shane Ross


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Vermin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭griffin100


    ‘Zero sense’ about catching drink drivers, uninsured drivers (who we all pay for when they hit someone) and tax cheats??? It’s called enforcement of the law, something we should all be happy about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    Bobby Shmurda.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    Half the country who are still drink driving


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Theres a new sheriff in town, he's gonna shake things up, theres been a huge decrease in breathalyzer numbers, people are slacking off, well not any more...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭Patser


    The illuminatii controlled, Global mega Corporation that produces those disposable blow pipes that you need to put on a breathyliser.

    It's all part of their world domination scheme, that and their latex glove empire, that almost every profession seems to need to stockpile now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Kevin Finnerty


    uch wrote: »
    I'd say the Gardaí

    Some of em stand out front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    there should be a lot more and at different time and different locations.
    not enough is done to rid the roads of the drunk or uninsured or nontaxed or even no nct lot.
    a clown of a system where speed vans are flagged up and visible so the arrogant so and sos can slow down and avoid detection. there should also be cameras at traffic lights- might cure the need for breaking red lights that is so prevalent nowadays.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Like other posters here ii am wondering why you question this? The gards doing their job


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    Mayo,eh! West of the Shannon rural pubs are full of Gardai, drinking after hours, and driving the roads in the early morn.

    I often wonder, how do they get through the road checks?


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    George Soros


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    George Soros

    And the leftiist media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Noveight wrote: »
    Bobby Shmurda.

    I got pulled over ABOUT A WEEK AGO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Whereabouts in Mayo? I am west/North coast and not a sign... Empty roads,.. Is it near towns?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I dont think my locality (rural Mayo) is any different but for whatever reason in the last few months the amount of Garda checkpoints etc has been ramped up to an incredible degree, they are everywhere at all hours, breathalyzers, tax checks, speeding etc. I mean it makes zero sense for a force that was always complaining and maybe rightly so about being under resourced. obv a decison has been taken at a high level and im wondering by whom and for what reason?

    See

    http://www.mayonews.ie/news/33004-full-time-community-policing-unit-to-open-in-mayo-this-spring

    Clearly they are getting their act together> I posted in a thread re community policemen. I was at the Westport Meals on Wheels Lunch Club Christmas dinner and there was a community garda there. Getting to know the old folk ; this time last year there was a spate of burglaries of old folk.

    Orderly Mayo..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    They are retrospective checkpoints, for the ones that happened years ago on paper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I thought it was zig as it was zags day off that day.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭willowthewisp


    I’m driving for over 20 years and I don’t think I remember ever having been breathalised in that time, maybe once.
    That is a poor indication of coverage a cross the country if you ask me.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Considering who the top man is in AGS, id say Mi5 are calling the shots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Like other posters here ii am wondering why you question this? The gards doing their job

    Nah thats not my point, im just wondering at what level this decision was taken and resources have obviously been moved form other areas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭oLoonatic


    No matter what the gardai, do people will think they should be doing something else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Protestants


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    The Gardai maybe??

    Why do people have such a problem with them doing their job? No it’s not catching master criminals but it’s still a vital part of what they do nonetheless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    The Gardai maybe??

    Why do people have such a problem with them doing their job? No it’s not catching master criminals but it’s still a vital part of what they do nonetheless.

    "Should be out catching real criminals"

    Basically.....should stop checking for my non-existent tax disk or me trying to kill other road users by drink driving.

    Piss off and obey the law


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭corsav6


    I dont think my locality (rural Mayo) is any different but for whatever reason in the last few months the amount of Garda checkpoints etc has been ramped up to an incredible degree, they are everywhere at all hours, breathalyzers, tax checks, speeding etc. I mean it makes zero sense for a force that was always complaining and maybe rightly so about being under resourced. obv a decison has been taken at a high level and im wondering by whom and for what reason?

    I'm also living in rural mayo and I haven't come across a checkpoint in years. I'm on the road during fairly busy hours and also do a lot of driving at the weekends.


  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭buckwheat


    Rex Banner :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    Eamon De Valera. The source of all of Ireland's problems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Wyatt Earp (aka Drew Harris) has arrived in Dodge City....and the Cowboys ain't happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Ahh, so that's what they've done with all the guards from Galway ... lent 'em to Mayo!


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    I mean, if they didn't have these the Gardai would have very little to do, very little crime and anti-social behaviour these days, the country is fairly peaceful.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 195 ✭✭GAA Beo


    I dont think my locality (rural Mayo) is any different but for whatever reason in the last few months the amount of Garda checkpoints etc has been ramped up to an incredible degree, they are everywhere at all hours, breathalyzers, tax checks, speeding etc. I mean it makes zero sense for a force that was always complaining and maybe rightly so about being under resourced. obv a decison has been taken at a high level and im wondering by whom and for what reason?
    It's similar where I am, I recently joined a facebook group where people post up the checkpoints in our county, it has 12,000 members. Every single checkpoint is posted to warn people. It has seriously ramped up there are checkpoints literally everywhere.

    The anger at Gardai and Shane Ross is also quite something. I wonder do they realise how angry they are making people in rural areas. They are never around to police burglaries or assaults but just harass motorists and be tax collectors for Fine Gael.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,918 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Ahh, so that's what they've done with all the guards from Galway ... lent 'em to Mayo!

    Galway has been full of checkpoints. Feel free to burgle, rob etc as you know where the Guards are & it will take them hours to arrive.

    Checkpoints are PR.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    Theres a new sheriff in town, he's gonna shake things up, theres been a huge decrease in breathalyzer numbers, people are slacking off, well not any more...

    The Gardai falsified 1,500,000 breath tests in order to doss in their stations. Unpunished of course, Garda corruption is beyond punishment. How will they ever improve that number of tests in the field?


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 195 ✭✭GAA Beo


    Discodog wrote: »
    Galway has been full of checkpoints. Feel free to burgle, rob etc as you know where the Guards are & it will take them hours to arrive.

    Checkpoints are PR.
    Exactly they look good on their twitter page and collect revenue for the state but violent crime like burglary and assault, they couldn't give less of a toss. Pure and utter money racket and government spin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    GAA Beo wrote: »
    It's similar where I am, I recently joined a facebook group where people post up the checkpoints in our county, it has 12,000 members. Every single checkpoint is posted to warn people. It has seriously ramped up there are checkpoints literally everywhere.

    The anger at Gardai and Shane Ross is also quite something. I wonder do they realise how angry they are making people in rural areas. They are never around to police burglaries or assaults but just harass motorists and be tax collectors for Fine Gael.

    Checkpoints are a very good way to screen vehicles and catch criminals in transit,because people who break the law tend to break a lot of laws. So a checkpoint isn't just checking for tax they are also to track vehicles or people. I've been through numerous checkpoints where they barely glance at my car but spend ages dealing with vans or certain colour of car. So by posting that the Gardai are doing a checkpoint outside one town it tells all the criminals that the next town over is open for business.

    But no its the Gardai's fault that criminals target isolated locations where even if we had thousands more Gardai patrolling they would still be able to attack isolated areas because people are posting on social media where it'd save to rob, or DUI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,283 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Gardaí are enforcing road traffic legislation - The bastards!
    Gardaí are not enforcing road traffic legislation - The bastards!
    The Gardaí weren't around at a very specific time and place to catch travelling* criminals - The bastards!
    The Gardaí had to prevent a breach of the peace at 'peaceful' protests, so they're working for [insert private company here] - The bastards!
    A very small percentage of Gardaí are corrupt so they must all be corrupt - The bastards!
    Only Gardaí of Inspector rank can cancel penalty point tickets - they're all corrupt - The bastards!

    Etc... :rolleyes:

    *I don't mean travellers, they get separate threads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    The Gardai maybe??

    Why do people have such a problem with them doing their job? No it’s not catching master criminals but it’s still a vital part of what they do nonetheless.

    Who has?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Who has?:confused:

    The OP for one.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Who has?:confused:

    Yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    A very small percentage of Gardaí are corrupt so they must all be corrupt - The bastards!
    Only Gardaí of Inspector rank can cancel penalty point tickets - they're all corrupt - The bastards!

    Hmmm...ah yes, just a few bad eggs like the Roman church.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/big-questions-go-unanswered-in-garda-penalty-points-scandal-1.3312793

    In a force that reached 14,000 members at one point, 442 gardaí cancelled penalty points. (442 of Inspector rank or above you said)

    At the end of repeated investigations and nine reports into the debacle, no gardaí will face discipline.

    Even that small number who were most prolific at cancelling points – in one case 700 times across 17 counties – will face no consequences.

    The reason? Disciplining so many Garda members would simply cost too much and take too long. And the records on which further investigations of individual gardaí would be based were poorly kept.

    A similar logic was outlined by Deputy Commissioner Dónall Ó Cualáin last week when he informed the Policing Authority that no gardaí would face sanction over the inflation of almost 2,000,000 alcohol breath tests.

    ..................

    I stated earlier that 1,500,000 alcohol breath tests were faked. I was wrong. It seems another 400,000 were uncovered since then. I think we are only peeling the onion on Garda corruption.

    The faked breath tests were performed in stations in every single Garda division in Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭RobbieMD


    GAA Beo wrote: »
    Exactly they look good on their twitter page and collect revenue for the state but violent crime like burglary and assault, they couldn't give less of a toss. Pure and utter money racket and government spin.


    Sure don’t the Gardai know the burglars walk miles to do their rural burglaries. Burglars would hardly use cars now would they?

    Every idiot who posts up checkpoint locations is a moron.


  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭RobbieMD


    Hmmm...ah yes, just a few bad eggs like the Roman church.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/big-questions-go-unanswered-in-garda-penalty-points-scandal-1.3312793

    In a force that reached 14,000 members at one point, 442 gardaí cancelled penalty points. (442 of Inspector rank or above you said)

    At the end of repeated investigations and nine reports into the debacle, no gardaí will face discipline.

    Even that small number who were most prolific at cancelling points – in one case 700 times across 17 counties – will face no consequences.

    The reason? Disciplining so many Garda members would simply cost too much and take too long. And the records on which further investigations of individual gardaí would be based were poorly kept.

    A similar logic was outlined by Deputy Commissioner Dónall Ó Cualáin last week when he informed the Policing Authority that no gardaí would face sanction over the inflation of almost 2,000,000 alcohol breath tests.

    ..................

    I stated earlier that 1,500,000 alcohol breath tests were faked. I was wrong. It seems another 400,000 were uncovered since then. I think we are only peeling the onion on Garda corruption.

    The faked breath tests were performed in stations in every single Garda division in Ireland.

    442 Gardai who cancelled penalty point notices had to have been at least of Inspector rank or above. No member of Garda rank could cancel a notice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    RobbieMD wrote: »
    442 Gardai who cancelled penalty point notices had to have been at least of Inspector rank or above. No member of Garda rank could cancel a notice.

    Yeah I said that in my post. What's your point?


  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭RobbieMD


    Yeah I said that in my post. What's your point?

    442 out of 14,000 is roughly 3%. I wouldn’t consider 3% a high percentage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    RobbieMD wrote: »
    442 out of 14,000 is roughly 3%. I wouldn’t consider 3% a high percentage.

    What % of the entire Garda force is Inspector rank or above?

    Let's exclude All the regular Gardaí and Sergeants and make an assumption that the senior Gardaí (Commissioner, Deputy Commissioner, Assistant Commissioner, Chief Superintendent, Superintendent, Inspector) numbers are 4000 (seems an awful lot still). That's 11%.

    And I see you have zero comment on the 2,000,000 alcohol breath tests that were faked in every Garda division in Ireland.
    Or that they went completely unpunished? What message does that send?

    .


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    RobbieMD wrote: »
    442 Gardai who cancelled penalty point notices had to have been at least of Inspector rank or above. No member of Garda rank could cancel a notice.


    It's more likely the 442 refers to Gardaí who issued the tickets as opposed to the people who actually cancelled them because there aren't even that many inspectors and superintendents in the country. A more accurate sentence might be "tickets issued by 442 different Gardaí were cancelled". Most were probably done without the knowledge of the issuing Garda too.
    What % of the entire Garda force is Inspector rank or above?

    About 2%


  • Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭RobbieMD


    What % of the entire Garda force is Inspector rank or above?

    God I don’t know. It’s probably on their website.
    I pointed out that it’s roughly 3% as you bolded Potential-Monke’s statement of a “very small percentage” I was just pointing out that he was correct. It is indeed a small percentage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,323 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    GAA Beo wrote: »
    It's similar where I am, I recently joined a facebook group where people post up the checkpoints in our county, it has 12,000 members. Every single checkpoint is posted to warn people. It has seriously ramped up there are checkpoints literally everywhere.

    The anger at Gardai and Shane Ross is also quite something. I wonder do they realise how angry they are making people in rural areas. They are never around to police burglaries or assaults but just harass motorists and be tax collectors for Fine Gael.

    What an incredibly stupid arrangement that facebook group is.

    Every criminal in the country must love it. When they hear that there is a major checkpoint in one town, they can go to another town and work away. The same facebook group probably has people complaining about the burglaries they helped facilitate.


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