Where's the deterrent for shіthead scumbags in society?

Crock Rock wrote: »

As I walked past the car, filthy scum who were congregating nearby walked over and attempted to open the door.

Perhaps they were concerned for the owners battery life and were moving to turn the device off on his behalf.

Crock Rock wrote: »

Why is there no consequences for being scum vermin in Ireland?

There is - it is just nigh impossible to attain. They actually have to commit a crime first - and then you have to successfully pursue a prosecution. This is not an easy process.

But that would be a consequence. Whether it is a _good_ one or an effective one however is debatable. As others have pointed out some people have 30 convictions to their name and are happily roaming looking to get more.

Crock Rock wrote: »

Where's the deterrent for shіthead scumbags in society?

Some deterrents work on some people and fail entirely on others. Some in fact only make some people worse. To be honest I have no idea what deterrents actually exist out there - as in the full list. But I doubt whether one exists yet or not - that a one size fits all solution is available.

For me the solution to a small group of local "scum" was to engage with them and start teaching them to fight better.

Up until I did this the "scum" in question were hanging out and blocking a shortcut in my area that people - including little old women going to shops - used heavily.

After they moved into this point they intimidated people and even accosted some of those little old women. Which would I am sure you agree put them in the category of the lowest of the low.

Since I engaged with them however they have actually turned out to be lovely people and are no longer engaged in scummy behaviour. Quite the opposite. They have recently been helping out one particular little old lady and helping her carry her shopping home. A lady they have previously been rather awful to - to the point they sent her waddling home having dropped her shopping in a panic one day in her rush to get away from them. They were that bad.

That worked for me/them. It might have entirely back fired and got me killed with another group of youths. It was quite the risk I took. Some people genuinely are scum. Some people just need a little guidance and investment. Thankfully for me/them/us these ones were the latter.

I walked around Dublin recently for an event I was part of - and I was rather saddened by the number of abandoned and run down buildings I past which still had signs saying they used to be Boxing Clubs. I passed the same thing walking around the outskirts of Sligo town too of late.

I have entertained the notion of starting a "Jedi Training" school for problem youths and even have a curriculum in mind. People and resources are of course a problem though so I have never yet gotten the finger out on it.

Maybe someone could help me here. I remember watching some Docu on some city in some country who implemented a program of youth clubs and investment in their entertainment and engagement. They were claiming in the Docu that crime from that age group had as a result hit zero. Seemed fantastic and I meant to follow up on it years later to see how it was going and if it held true. Now I have forgotten where it was - I can not look it up Anyone know what I am talking about here?

While scumbags when they exist should be dealt with properly, they are thankfully much rarer than they were 8 or 10 years ago and before. High living standards and being kept distracted/entertained with technology has made being an actual scumbag ludicrous to the kids who in previous times would have been at risk of becoming one. Scumbags of old became what they were after having grown up hanging around the streets with their friends in gangs - nowadays young working class guys are too busy trying to not look like a scumbag to be letting themselves down robbing cars or committing crime. Nowadays there is too much social status at stake to be seen being a scumbag and it doesn't appeal to them anyway as "being hard" is no longer the badge of honour among these kids that it once was. Nowadays it is all about how expensive their clothes are, how attractive they look with their sunbeds and skin fades - you know, the kind of stuff their older brothers/fathers punched other guys for back in the day. Also, kids from all backgrounds all go to college nowadays as they have little other choice in this psychological-pressure-cooker economy.