Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Straight Talker · 09-04-2023 9:24pm

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It's thirteen years since we last won Sam Maguire, and it'll be fourteen years next year. The hurlers have gone nearly twenty years without winning the big prize, and while we have some good talent coming through in the hurling, i don't think we're at the stage where we can compete with Limerick yet.

There's been a lot of disappointment in both codes since 1990, and Frank Murphy should've been dumped out on his hole after the third strike. Since 1990 preparation of intercounty squads has gotten way more professional, and with the exception of the hurlers under Donal O'Grady and John Allen and the footballers under Conor Counihan, we have failed dismally to adapt to that changing landscape.

windy shepard henderson · 09-04-2023 9:28pm

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ìf the hurlers keep tipping away they will eventually overthrow limerick , or limerick will just hit that switch and say enough

football is a serious conundrum , i really expected ye to win and kick on today , hurlers need to just keep doing what they are doing though

teednab-el · 09-04-2023 9:29pm

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I agree with this. There is no consistency with Cork Football. Put it up to a good team one day and fall apart to a weaker team the next. It's always a problem with Cork football. We have lost nearly double what we won in football All Irelands. Cork football is not getting better.

The_Kew_Tour · 09-04-2023 9:48pm

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Ya sadly Frank set us back years.

The pride in playing for Cork is not there either like it used to.

Cork football bar mid 70s the 89-90 team and from 08-12 has been a joke really. 7 all Irelands in Football is actually embarrassing return really. 5 All Irelands in 80 years. Thats pathetic when you think about it

thefa · 09-04-2023 10:48pm

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Thats it when it comes to pride - doesn’t feel like it’s there consistently in the performances for many years now.

All-Irelands are hard won but one from that Conor Counihane stint was a disappointment considering the quality and athleticism of that team. Left some big games behind.

Having a bigger pool and some success helped create a bit of complacency when it comes putting in proper development structures.

Less than a decade ago, we were a guaranteed top two seed in the province. Couldn’t be further from it.

Straight Talker · 09-04-2023 11:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120460109#Comment_120460109

The pride and fighting spirit hasn't been there in the football since Conor Counihan left, and in hurling we lost our fighting spirit as a county after the third strike. We used to be winners, but that seems to have been beaten out of us in the past few years. It's going to be a challenge financing the preparation of our intercounty squads as well, with the debt for the Stade De Frank continuing to spiral out of control. We sadly still have a lot of issues to straighten out as a county imo.

Fred Astaire · 09-04-2023 11:22pm

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The group stages? There's a chance Cork are in Tailteann now.

Group Stages have 7 spots to teams that don't qualify for provincial finals, based on league.

Mayo
Galway or Roscommon
At a minimum 3 more spots going to Ulster teams. Because only one of Derry/Monaghan/Tyrone can make the final and only one of Donegal/Armagh can make the final.

If Meath end up making the Leinster final (a reasonable chance, especially as if they don't they are in Tailteann) then that means Louth need their spot from the League. Then you only need one more 'shock'. Cavan for example, making the Ulster final would mean another spot gone and Cork would be out and in Tailteann

namloc1980 · 09-04-2023 11:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120460214#Comment_120460214

Tailteann has group stages no??

Figerty · 09-04-2023 11:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120460214#Comment_120460214

What a mess of a system.

Straight Talker · 09-04-2023 11:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120460295#Comment_120460295

I was thinking the exact same thing as you.

namloc1980 · 10-04-2023 12:06am

It's a total mess. The league is more important now than provincials. Not sure how long more the provincial championships can last.

Straight Talker · 10-04-2023 4:51am

I know he's nearly 80 but we really need Billy Morgan to have some involvement with the senior panel. His fingerprints have been all over the very few football all Irelands we've won since 1945, player in 1973, manager in 1989/1990 and he started the rebuilding process that led to the 2010 all Ireland win. Whenever we're looking for the next manager, we need to consider going outside the county imo, even if it's a Kerry man then so be it.

I would've baulked at that notion 10 years ago, which shows just how badly we've fallen. We haven't won a trophy outside of the McGrath Cup since 2012 either, and we're now only the third best team in Munster after Kerry and Clare. We brought in Kevin Walsh from Galway, but you'd have to question what he's bringing to the table after yesterday.

What a pitiful and pathetic shambles Cork football is sadly. We have no divine right to success in either code, but the bare minimum i expect is the team to be competently prepared and the players to give it their all. Did that happen yesterday i'm not sure, but i do think that we took Clare for granted, and we sure did pay a heavy price for that. This team just can't be taken seriously, until they put three or four serious championship performances together.

The_Kew_Tour · 11-04-2023 9:41am

It's the style we play too though. It's horrible to watch.

In 2019 we started play a lovely brand of football. We did lose to Dubs by 15 points (our near that) but for 60 minutes we gave a great account of ourselves and I was very proud of those super 8 defeats to Dublin and Tyrone,plus we gave Kerry a good game in Munster.

We seemed to carry that over till Munster final v Tipp in 2020. That day we produced possibly worst Cork performance I can remember and I include Kerry in 2014/2018 and Limerick in 2003 to those.

For every step forward it's been three steps back.

It's not the beatings that bother me, its the style and the lack of pride that I just gave up watching Cork football.

I don't care about my opinion being wrong. If Cork turned it around and started win things I be only too happy for people to point out my negative thoughts on team in past and bookmark them all you like.

But I had friends getting way too carried away about few league performances and thinking we had turned corner. If you have not learned by now you never will.

Sunday did not bother me. I just shrugged shoulders when saw the result.

The whole culture of Cork football has to change. We can blame Frank to a degree I agree, but he ain't only one.

Players and management down years have been way too hit and miss and we just seem to **** our pance when we see Kerry Jersey. We have only ever beaten Dublin twice in championship football. Lost a All Ireland to Louth in past. Left way too much behind us. I can actually understand why people don't bother go to their games.

Straight Talker · 11-04-2023 12:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120463970#Comment_120463970

We're only two all Irelands behind Galway though, if we overtake them then we're next in line after Kerry and Dublin. The problem is that we're miles away from winning an all Ireland, and Galway are far more likely to win Sam next than us. Cork football has for pretty much the vast majority of the time, been riddled with a very un Cork like inferiority complex.

Is that down to the fact that football is the poor relation sport in the county, and the various traumatic beatings at the hands of Kerry over the years? I suppose it is. Maybe we should get an Ulster born manager in after Cleary. That comment Joe Brolly said before about Cork being purveyors of dumb football was a cruel one, but there was a lot of truth to it as well imo.

Straight Talker · 12-04-2023 8:29pm

A depressing article here by Kieran Shannon. We already knew that times are bleak but he's just reminding us how Cork are no longer Cork.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport-columnists/arid-41113741.html

The White Feather · 13-04-2023 6:14pm

On the hurlers injury front, Alan Connolly will be out for the Munster Championship. He had shoulder surgery and is back with his club physio in recovery.

Coleman is still recovering from his knee injury and its not certain when he will be back.

Disappointing news as I hoped both would be back.

Sean O'Donoghue went off against Limerick with a dead leg and his recovery has been slow. He is back running though at least. He is at training every night though talking to everyone because he is Team Captain and that's great to hear.

The good news is that both Darragh Fitzgibbon and Robbie O'Flynn are back in full training. I really thought Robbie was going to be out for longer so nice to hear him back training.

The White Feather · 15-04-2023 1:51pm

The Cork U20 Football team to play Limerick in the Munster U20 Football Championship Semi Final has been announced

Callum Dungan (Carrigaline)
Dan Twomey (Ballinascarthy)
Jacob O’Driscoll (Valley Rovers) Captain
Darragh Murray (Glanmire)
Thomas O’Mahony (Castlehaven)
Tommy Walsh (Kanturk)
Sean Brady (Ballygarvan)
Eoghan Nash (Douglas)
Sean Dore (Ballincollig)
Olan Corcoran (St Mary’s)
Liam O’Connell (Ballincollig)
Richard O’Sullivan (Newcestown)
Peadar O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
Hugh O’Connor (Newmarket)
Tom Cunningham (Kilshannig)
Mikey O’Connell (St Michael’s)
Mikey Quirke (Ballinora)
Fionn Crowley (St Finbarr’s)
Chris Kenneally (Clonakilty)
Eoin de Burca (St Michael’s)
Paddy O’Driscoll (Gabriel Rangers)
Niall Kelly (Newcestown)
Mike McSweeney (Knocknagree)
Ross Corkery (Nemo Rangers)

zetecescort · 16-04-2023 1:30pm

Camogie league final v Galway on RTE at 1:50

The White Feather · 16-04-2023 2:25pm

Enjoyable first half. Cork ahead by two

zetecescort · 16-04-2023 2:58pm

Galway 3 up with 10 min left

The White Feather · 16-04-2023 3:04pm

Some really bad wides are killing us and the ref has been giving them a lot of frees. One was for a thown ball but it was clearly handpassed. Hit the post when it could have been a goal as well so it looks like one of those days

ShamoBuc · 16-04-2023 3:11pm

The ball just didn't run our way. A few very bad wides, 10 in total. The goal chance in the 59th minute, had to be put away.

The White Feather · 16-04-2023 3:11pm

Lost in the end. Good game to watch. Ref was very poor but Cork had so many bad wides. It was about 10. We really missed Thompson in midfield

zetecescort · 16-04-2023 7:58pm

U20 football tomorrow at 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx8V9mHwH-8

zetecescort · 17-04-2023 7:11pm

The Cork Minor Hurling team to play Clare tomorrow in Round 4 of the Munster Minor Hurling Championship has been announced

Oisin Walsh (Youghal)
Oier O’Callaghan (Liscarroll Churchtown Gaels)
Darragh McCarthy (Passage)
Carthaigh Cronin (Midleton)
Cillian O’Callaghan (Dungourney)
Ben Walsh (Killeagh) Captain
David O’Leary (Ballincollig)
James O’Leary (Lisgoold)
Conor McCarthy (Glen Rovers)
Johnny Murphy (Dromina)
Zack Biggane (Charleville)
Barry Walsh (Killeagh)
Sean Meade (Killeagh)
Barry O’Flynn (Sarsfields)
Finn O’Brien (Erins Own)
Fionn Murphy (Killeagh)
Sean O’Callaghan (Aghada)
Johnny Galvin (Éire Óg)
Jayden Casey (Youghal)
James O’Brien (Cloyne)
Patrick Walsh (Carrigtwohill)
Conor McCarthy (St Finbarr’s)
Ronan Dooley (Douglas)
Kristian O’Gorman (Charleville)

zetecescort · 17-04-2023 7:43pm

Cork 1-6 Limerick 0-2 HT

zetecescort · 17-04-2023 8:20pm

as one sided as the score line suggests, Cork 2-14 Limerick 0-6

Kerry given a right game by Clare in Tralee, going to extra time

zetecescort · 17-04-2023 9:02pm

Kerry through, final next Monday live on TG4

zetecescort · 18-04-2023 1:29pm

The Cork U20 Hurling team to play Clare on Wednesday in Round 4 of the Munster U20 Hurling Championship has been announced. Note throw in of 6:15

Brion Saunderson (Midleton)
Sean Daly (Randal Óg)
Shane Kingston (Ballinora)
Darragh O’Sullivan (Ballinhassig)
James Dwyer (Ballincollig)
Eoin Downey (Glen Rovers)
Michael Mullins (Whitechurch) Captain
Tadhg O’Connell (Ballincollig)
Timmy Wilk (Cobh)
William Buckley (St Finbarr’s)
Ben Cunningham (St Finbarr’s)
Diarmuid Healy (Lisgoold)
Eoin O’Leary (Glen Rovers)
Colin Walsh (Kanturk)
Ross O’Sullivan (Na Piarsaigh)
Paudie O’Sullivan (Fr O’Neills)
Ciarmhac Smyth (Midleton)
Mark Howell (Douglas)
Cillian Tobin (Bride Rovers)
Ciaran Doolan (St Finbarr’s)
Mikey Finn (Midleton)
Adam O’Sullivan (Ballinhassig)
David Cremin (Midleton)
Brian Keating (Ballincollig)

https://www.youtube.com/live/-k_3Pauwnak?feature=share

zetecescort · 18-04-2023 7:42pm

minor hurling, Cork 0-8 Clare 0-9 Half time

ShamoBuc · 18-04-2023 8:11pm

Clare score 5 or 6 points in a row to take a 6 point lead with 10 to go.

The White Feather · 18-04-2023 8:13pm

Really poor second half from Cork in the minor game. We haven't won any puckouts all day. Clare in complete control in the midfield.

A load of errors from us coming out with the ball from defence. Dropping balls and unable to rise ball first time. Possession lost and results in a Clare score

Another thing that is very noticeable, is the amount of throwing the ball from both teams.

ShamoBuc · 19-04-2023 6:26pm

10 gone, good start, 6 v 2 up. Live on TG4 youtube.

The White Feather · 19-04-2023 6:35pm

Constant frees from the ref for both teams. He is way too whistle happy

He is really spoiling this. Like touch hurling. No tackles allowed

ShamoBuc · 19-04-2023 6:49pm

Clear over carrying by the Clare lad left go- jinking left, right and left again. Very annoying considering the frees given so far.

Ht Clare 0-12 v Cork 0-11

The White Feather · 19-04-2023 7:41pm

Clare 0-22 Cork 1-24 FT

That's one of the worst reffing performances. Constant frees everywhere and ruined the flow of the game. He gave a free to whoever was in possession at the time I'm glad Cork won but he ruined it for both sides. Felt like neither could get going properly.

Game hinged on the goal Cork got. Once we got the goal we pulled a bit clear. Clare had a great chance in the first half for a goal but he over carried it when all he had to do was pass it to a free man.

ShamoBuc · 19-04-2023 7:49pm

Atrocious performance from the ref. He absolutely ruined the game with the constant whistling and some truly crap decisions.

A point up with 5 to go when we got the all important goal.

Timmy Wilk chipped in with 4 from play from around midfield.and will surely start the next day having not starting the last 2 games.

Quite a few wides, especially a few from frees that should have been scored.

But that's 3 wins form 3.

The White Feather · 21-04-2023 9:02pm

Tipp beat Limerick tonight in Munster Under 20 hurling. They were 12 points up at half time but just fell over the line in the end. The good news is because of that result, we go into the final on Monday 15th May. Cork will play Limerick in the final Round on Friday 28th April in the Gaelic Grounds at 7:30pm so we can try out all the panel players in that game presumably

The White Feather · 22-04-2023 3:41pm

Full time in the Camogie league 2B final. This was a replay from last week.

Cork 2-15 Kilkenny 0-13

One of the goals is below

https://twitter.com/OfficialCamogie/status/1649781665172975616?s=20

zetecescort · 22-04-2023 4:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120505298#Comment_120505298

I think if we beat Limerick they are out so would like to see us go all out to win

The White Feather · 22-04-2023 5:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120508058#Comment_120508058

Interesting that you said that because in this article that I was reading Linda Mellerick says the Camogie team should have went all out to beat Galway the week before their final. Then they would have played Tipperary in the final and she thinks we would beat them easier. So maybe it does pay off to think about who we want to play in the final and who would suit us better!

"Galway, like Cork, have injuries and were without key players and, already qualified, Cork gave their panel members a run. We were coming into the final with a better team ‘on paper’.

But, in hindsight, that was a mistake. Had Cork beaten Galway, they would have faced Tipperary in the final.

They would have beaten Tipp, of that I’m sure, and it would have been a league medal, important silverware, and a first win since 2018 in HQ."

https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-41121421.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

namloc1980 · 23-04-2023 4:20pm

What's the scenario now for Cork for Sam Maguire vs Tailteann?

The White Feather · 23-04-2023 7:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120511674#Comment_120511674

I think that would have required a series of unlikely results to put us in Tailteann like Tipp beating Kerry which didn't happen.

Today the Cork Minor Camogie team qualified for the All Ireland final beating Galway in the semi

Cork 1-18 Galway 3-11 FT

The Cork U20 Football team to play Kerry in the Eirgrid Munster U20 Football Championship Final at Páirc Uí Chaoimh has been announced. Its on tomorrow night on tg4 at 7.30

Callum Dungan (Carrigaline)
Dan Twomey (Ballinascarthy)
Jacob O’Driscoll (Valley Rovers) Captain
Darragh Murray (Glanmire)
Thomas O’Mahony (Castlehaven)
Tommy Walsh (Kanturk)
Sean Brady (Ballygarvan)
Eoghan Nash (Douglas)
Sean Dore (Ballincollig)
Olan Corcoran (St Mary’s)
Liam O’Connell (Ballincollig)
Richard O’Sullivan (Newcestown)
Peadar O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
Hugh O’Connor (Newmarket)
Tom Cunningham (Kilshannig)
Mikey O’Connell (St Michael’s)
Mikey Quirke (Ballinora)
Fionn Crowley (St Finbarr’s)
Chris Kenneally (Clonakilty)
Eoin de Burca (St Michael’s)
Paddy O’Driscoll (Gabriel Rangers)
Niall Kelly (Newcestown)
Mike McSweeney (Knocknagree)
Ross Corkery (Nemo Rangers)

An Ciarraioch · 23-04-2023 7:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120511674#Comment_120511674

You're almost safe, but if Offaly and Down both qualify for provincial finals, then yourselves and Kildare drop into the Tailteann, and if only one of the two qualify, it'd be Kildare eliminated first

callaway92 · 23-04-2023 8:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120508468#Comment_120508468

‘They would have beaten Tipp, of that I’m sure, and it would have been a league medal, important silverware, and a first win since 2018 in HQ.’

She has some cheek saying things like that…

Similar comments made ahead of Sarsfields’ Munster Camogie Semi-Final against Scariff-Ogonnelloe. ‘I haven’t seen Scariff play but you’d imagine that the Cork champions would beat the Clare champions’

First of all with Sarsfields losing their county final and 2nd of all, Cork clubs haven’t done anything for years

zetecescort · 23-04-2023 9:15pm

TG4 showing the U20 football on tv tomorrow

The White Feather · 24-04-2023 6:02pm

The Cork Minor Hurling Team to play Limerick tomorrow night at 7pm in the Munster Minor Hurling Championship Round 5 has been announced

Oisin Walsh (Youghal)
Oier O’Callaghan (Liscarroll Churchtown Gaels)
Darragh McCarthy (Passage)
Carthaigh Cronin (Midleton)
Cillian O’Callaghan (Dungourney)
Ben Walsh (Killeagh) Captain
David O’Leary (Ballincollig)
James O’Leary (Lisgoold)
Conor McCarthy (Glen Rovers)
Johnny Murphy (Dromina)
Zack Biggane (Charleville)
Barry Walsh (Killeagh)
Brian Lynch (Youghal)
Barry O’Flynn (Sarsfields)
Finn O’Brien (Erins Own)
Fionn Murphy (Killeagh)
Sean O’Callaghan (Aghada)
Johnny Galvin (Éire Óg)
Jayden Casey (Youghal)
James O’Brien (Cloyne)
Patrick Walsh (Carrigtwohill)
Conor McCarthy (St Finbarr’s)
Ronan Dooley (Douglas)
Sean Meade (Killeagh)

Barry Walsh returning to the team is a big plus

zetecescort · 24-04-2023 7:31pm

Kerry goal after 30 seconds

edit: and another one, 2-1 to 0-1 after 5 min

The White Feather · 24-04-2023 7:41pm

The Kerry free taker takes an age to kick the ball. Surely he cant be allowed to take that long every time.

We have missed 2 goal chances where we have missed the target completely. Very disappointing

Ref gave them a free out when it should have been a free in just there

Seadin · 24-04-2023 7:52pm

We are seeing Kerry doing this to Cork in all levels year in an year out. No surprises really. Referee is letting Cork off with nothing.

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