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Winter 20/21 - General Discussion

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 366 ✭✭daniel_t1409


    Winter 2017-18 was good here in wexford, snow on 10th December, early Feb, late Feb[BFTE], 18th march.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    we got lucky January 2018 with one night of decent snow from the Atlantic, an absolute rarity to get measurable lying snow of 3 to 4 inches in this part of the country from the west. I don't really count the BFTE/Storm Emma as a winter event, it's more of an early Spring event.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Not true, there were lots of snow days in 2018, it even snowed on St Patrick’s day!
    pauldry wrote: »
    That incredible Winter was 2 days of heavy snow. The rest of all the Winter was benign


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,977 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Not true, there were lots of snow days in 2018, it even snowed on St Patrick’s day!

    March isn’t winter though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Who cares in fairness. 2018 delivered piles of snow and that’s all that matters. 2010 and 2018 were amazing snow events in Ireland. 2010 had amazing snow in both November and December. While November Is autumn it still counts as great snow even if it fell 2 weeks before winter officially started.


    Loughc wrote: »
    March isn’t winter though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Who cares in fairness. 2018 delivered piles of snow and that’s all that matters. 2010 and 2018 were amazing snow events in Ireland. 2010 had amazing snow in both November and December. While November Is autumn it still counts as great snow even if it fell 2 weeks before winter officially started.

    2018 was incredible in its own way. To get that amount of snow and that depth of cold in late February to early March was remarkable. Then there was also the second round on St Patrick's Day. It's just a pity that even with temperatures so low the snow melted rather quickly due to sublimation. So it was a bittersweet. I suppose the ideal is if it had happened in January, but you're right we have to appreciate it when ever it comes along


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Lots of negativity in Netweather about the upcoming cold spell. But it looks to be quite good for the northern part of this island.

    850pha next Thursday -6c and freezing level lower than 400m.

    Not sure what’s so awful about that, I would think that is productive for low level snow. Perhaps because it’s not an easterly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 366 ✭✭daniel_t1409


    Dull, wet dreary morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »

    Not sure what’s so awful about that, I would think that is productive for low level snow. Perhaps because it’s not an easterly?

    Yup, back to cheap Atlantic muck, just what the doctor ordered.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Looks like a NW to me..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Yes indeed next week not without interest
    Wouldn't take much to upgrade to something special


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Lots of negativity in Netweather about the upcoming cold spell. But it looks to be quite good for the northern part of this island.

    850pha next Thursday -6c and freezing level lower than 400m.

    Not sure what’s so awful about that, I would think that is productive for low level snow. Perhaps because it’s not an easterly?

    that would be uneventful for most of the country, maybe a few wet snowflakes on bin lids in the north. Uppers look marginal at best mostly cold rain or sleet mixed in with snow on the peaks.

    An easterly is what most people get excited for as temperatures would be much lower if it's an unstable long fetch easterly with snow showers piling in from the east. Every winter we chase this opportunity and rarely ever get it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    A good easterly is a thing of beauty! Will never forget during that big snow in 2018 standing on the coast looking at the endless conveyor belt of snow coming from the Irish Sea. It just kept on coming and came down so think and fast. Even the coast road was plastered in snow and ice.

    November and December 2010 was phenomenal for easterlies too. The snow is always more powdery too
    Gonzo wrote: »
    that would be uneventful for most of the country, maybe a few wet snowflakes on bin lids in the north. Uppers look marginal at best mostly cold rain or sleet mixed in with snow on the peaks.

    An easterly is what most people get excited for as temperatures would be much lower if it's an unstable long fetch easterly with snow showers piling in from the east. Every winter we chase this opportunity and rarely ever get it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭lostweekend3


    Gonzo wrote: »
    that would be uneventful for most of the country, maybe a few wet snowflakes on bin lids in the north. Uppers look marginal at best mostly cold rain or sleet mixed in with snow on the peaks.

    An easterly is what most people get excited for as temperatures would be much lower if it's an unstable long fetch easterly with snow showers piling in from the east. Every winter we chase this opportunity and rarely ever get it.

    The west and northwest and to a certain degree the southwest would do quite well under next week's north-westerly. Snow could get down to lower levels.
    A lot of negativity on here as well, not just netweather. It's a lot better than this time last year. There is a good deal of potential this winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Loughc wrote: »
    March isn’t winter though.

    No, but it may as well be. Statistically, late Feb/early March is one of the coldest periods of the year as tropical air masses seem to find it more of a struggle to infiltrate this far north during this period of the year.

    New Moon



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Gonzo wrote: »
    that would be uneventful for most of the country, maybe a few wet snowflakes on bin lids in the north. Uppers look marginal at best mostly cold rain or sleet mixed in with snow on the peaks.

    An easterly is what most people get excited for as temperatures would be much lower if it's an unstable long fetch easterly with snow showers piling in from the east. Every winter we chase this opportunity and rarely ever get it.

    Thinking back to 2010 and previous years. Most cold or prolonged cold outbreaks came from the north/northwest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    The west and northwest and to a certain degree the southwest would do quite well under next week's north-westerly. Snow could get down to lower levels.
    A lot of negativity on here as well, not just netweather. It's a lot better than this time last year. There is a good deal of potential this winter.

    I agree. Northwesterly’s are very good for the northern part of this island, you usually get quite a decent covering of snow above 100m, with often very frequent snow showers in the unstable NW airstreams.

    Anyway, I find -8c 850pha is the level for snow to fall to low levels in these types of air masses. You need lower 850 pha temps as the ocean track increases the moisture content of the air parcel/column at the surface, so it is best to have the freezing level as low as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 366 ✭✭daniel_t1409


    A dull foggy evening here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Lots of negativity in Netweather about the upcoming cold spell. But it looks to be quite good for the northern part of this island.

    You need to keep in mind a lot of those posters live to the south of the M4 , so a north westerly isn't great for them. So a lot of it is Nimbyism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Couple of rail cams to keep an eye on as a 'storm system' begins to impact the NE USA:

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    Deshler, Ohio. (beginning to snow there already, earlier than expected)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM1ivV-yfo0

    And Fairport, in 'upstate' NY. Rain there at the moment but expected to turn to snow later on tonight especially throughout tomorrow:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Km4mSHsiWw

    New Moon



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    You need to keep in mind a lot of those posters live to the south of the M4 , so a north westerly isn't great for them. So a lot of it is Nimbyism.

    True. Looks very marginal anywhere though. Cold icy rain for most, with the usual higher routes getting some slushy now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Couple of rail cams to keep an eye on as a 'storm system' begins to impact the NE USA:



    Deshler, Ohio. (beginning to snow there already, earlier than expected)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM1ivV-yfo0

    And Fairport, in 'upstate' NY. Rain there at the moment but expected to turn to snow later on tonight especially throughout tomorrow:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Km4mSHsiWw


    Here's a nice snowy one from M.T.'s part of the world.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEfNcfkfobA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Welcome. December!

    Chills the very bones, and totally silent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    And the most utterly magnificent moon riding high and majestic over the still, dark ocean at the back here.

    The sheer breathtaking beauty of this earth. Of this small place where I am blessed to live.

    Just a few lighthouse and marker buoys …flat calm waters shining. reflecting the celestial glory.

    And above it all. the huge glowing white of the haloed moon ….riding high in the deepest of breathtaking silences

    West mayo offshore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Agent_47


    @Graces7,will be interesting weather in the next few days coming in from west!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Agent_47 wrote: »
    @Graces7,will be interesting weather in the next few days coming in from west!

    Oh I hope so! I am ready for it and ready to revel in it.

    And if it stays mild and still? Ready for that too. It is still the weather..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Gorgeous day in Dub


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    met ie advisory re "wintry showers"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Weather Advisory for Ireland

    Much colder for the rest of the week, with sharp to severe frosts and icy stretches. Some wintry showers too.

    Valid: 16:00 Wednesday 02/12/2020 to 23:59 Friday 04/12/2020

    Issued: 09:00 Tuesday 01/12/2020


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Theres been an orange tinge to the horizon all day today. It looks like constant sunset. Anyone know why? Also last night the moon was quite golden or even orange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    pauldry wrote: »
    Theres been an orange tinge to the horizon all day today. It looks like constant sunset. Anyone know why? Also last night the moon was quite golden or even orange.

    The sky has been weird a while. That almost yellow tinge we get before snow. There is so much sky out here with no trees and few low buildings .

    Fascinating times.. we shall see what this leads to. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Rougies wrote: »
    Here's a nice snowy one from M.T.'s part of the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEfNcfkfobA

    And a nice dusting in this part of Wyoming:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYIt6NjmYo

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,175 ✭✭✭pauldry


    News were on about a lot of air pollution last weekend and calm conditions so it could be those particles that are leading to the orangey hew that was seen in the Southern sky all day today in Sligo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Goldfinch8


    I know what you are saying about that interesting orange glow towards the southern horizon today.
    I saw it too in Co.Roscommon. My own guess is that it is caused by the low enough sun at this time of the year against a particular cloud type that filters the light somewhat. We had some large banks of slightly broken cloud today. Not very thick stuff but some good banks of altocumulus in particular.
    My gut is telling me that it is not pollution related because we mainly had a westerly breeze here today that certainly was not emanating over any significant urban areas.
    Over the last week or two there has been a few nice displays of a weak sun illuminating similar banks of cloud.
    The top picture was taken looking south this afternoon.
    The bottom pic was a nice late November sky taken a few days ago at home in Mayo. I took it because I liked the way the lowering afternoon sun gave a nice glow to the clouds in front of it.
    Just my own thoughts but could be way off the mark!

    attachment.php?attachmentid=534865&stc=1&d=1606862684

    attachment.php?attachmentid=534866&stc=1&d=1606862841


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    pauldry wrote: »
    Theres been an orange tinge to the horizon all day today. It looks like constant sunset. Anyone know why? Also last night the moon was quite golden or even orange.

    Lunar eclipse tonight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    A bitter chill out there now. Mercurial sudden changes and squalls.I was out perforce getting fuel in etc, and a scurry and a hurry to get back in.

    The sky varies widely in all directions. Clear north but veiled mountains etc else and the ocean is perturbed with white crests.

    A huge change from yesterday.

    West mayo offshore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


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    Stop teasing. My little heart can't take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Lovely + sunny out there today but very cold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Status Yellow - Snow/Ice warning for Donegal

    Met Éireann Weather Warning

    Heavy wintry showers of hail, sleet and snow expected tonight (Wednesday) and Thursday with reduced visibility and accumulations likely in places.

    Valid: 00:01 Thursday 03/12/2020 to 23:59 Thursday 03/12/2020

    Issued: 11:00 Wednesday 02/12/2020


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,958 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Status Yellow - Snow/Ice warning for Donegal

    Met Éireann Weather Warning

    Heavy wintry showers of hail, sleet and snow expected tonight (Wednesday) and Thursday with reduced visibility and accumulations likely in places.

    Valid: 00:01 Thursday 03/12/2020 to 23:59 Thursday 03/12/2020

    Issued: 11:00 Wednesday 02/12/2020

    That seems like a big upgrade to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,989 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Snow has arrived in the far North!

    https://flic.kr/p/2kcV9nw

    https://flic.kr/p/2kcZpXL


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭devilabit


    Had to clear a couple of cm off the car this morning in Omagh, cool at 1C. Mostly melted now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,989 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Getting thicker

    https://flic.kr/p/2kcZBH4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Getting colder and the stove is resisting all efforts to light. It hates some wind directions... shivers,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Very nice clear night out there, temp is currently -1.7

    Edit: Meath, im in Meath in case some want location, ha


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭icesnowfrost


    Dew points are nice and low. Some people are going to be lucky over this weekend especially in the north and west


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Brrr its baltic out there.

    Car frozen soild this morning.

    Had to go back in + search the press for de-icer!

    Its beginning to look a lot like Christmas!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Status Yellow - Wind warning for Ireland

    Met Éireann Weather Warning

    Strong northerly winds today will gust up to 100km/h with a slight risk of coastal flooding.

    Valid: 11:00 Friday 04/12/2020 to 06:00 Saturday 05/12/2020

    Issued: 09:00 Friday 04/12/2020


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Just reached 0 degrees here in meath from an overnight low of -2.3, sun is out so should rise a bit now


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Gusting 111 km/h at Malin Head in 1100 reports.


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