"BMW First"

moby2101 · 29-08-2018 2:06pm

Apologies, this is slightly off topic.
I've a 420d coming up on 23000km and I have a message telling me I'm due an oil change in a couple of hundred kms.
I haven’t booked it in yet.
Is this covered under normal warranty, I'm guessing not, what should I expect to be charged?
Thanks

Mike

bazz26 · 29-08-2018 2:12pm

You might be confusing warranty with a service pack. A service pack is a cost option when the car is brand new and covers the cost of basic service items on the car up to 5 years or 100,000km. It doesn't cover things like brake pads/discs, bulbs, etc. Do you have a service pack with the car? If so then an oil service would be included in that. You can check by putting your reg and mileage into www.bmwservice.ie. Warranty is different and only covers things that prematurely fail.

If you don't have a service pack with the car then no you would have to pay for any servicing that needs doing. In that case best sign up to bmw-first and avail of 20% off the cost of a service.

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 29-08-2018 2:15pm

Enter your car into here for prices with a dealer

http://www.bmwservice.ie/contentv3/

moby2101 · 29-08-2018 2:16pm

Cheers bazz

moby2101 · 29-08-2018 2:19pm

Thanks lads,
Yeah I have a service pack. I thought they might charge for the oil tho?

bazz26 · 29-08-2018 2:24pm

No the service pack covers scheduled servicing items such as an oil change.

Wailin · 29-08-2018 3:19pm

Applied for the bmw first 2 weeks ago, card arrived last week surprisingly enough. Put it to use on a service yesterday, 20% off parts plus free wipers. Was very sceptical of this but well worth it for €4.90 a month.

Just be aware the 20% off does not include labour, parts only.

Stallingrad · 29-08-2018 3:23pm

Wailin wrote: »

Just be aware the 20% off does not include labour, parts only.

Their letter says 20% discount on parts, service and repair.

Seth Brundle · 29-08-2018 3:32pm

Wailin wrote: »

Applied for the bmw first 2 weeks ago, card arrived last week surprisingly enough. Put it to use on a service yesterday, 20% off parts plus free wipers. Was very sceptical of this but well worth it for €4.90 a month.

Just be aware the 20% off does not include labour, parts only.

Their T&Cs state:

Package (1): Service & Repair
Service & Repair assures BMW expert’s quality service and costs 4.90 EUR per month. It includes Health Check & Diagnostics read-out, a 20% Discount on the Recommended Retail Price of Parts, Service and Repair and the Replacement of Wiper Blades and Light Bulbs. Retailers/Retail Centres may grant BMW FIRST Customers additional discounts which, however, are not subject to this agreement.

Wailin · 29-08-2018 4:38pm

That's what I thought. But girl at service desk was adamant it was only off parts and showed me a little brochure that did state that. Anyone else have this issue?

Looking at the service cost, it was €628 when i booked it on bmwservice.ie but I was charged €506 which is pretty much 20% off overall cost.

bazz26 · 29-08-2018 4:59pm

When I was in getting the wipers fitted I got a quote from them for my next service interval and the price was the standard bmwservice.ie price that didn't include the 20% BMW First discount.

Wailin, what did your service include?

Wailin · 29-08-2018 5:30pm

Oil change, microfilter, air filter and fuel filter.

Service indicator only had rear brake pads (which had 6mm left so where fine) but since it was my first service since I got the car I had the oil and all filters done.

Oil will be done annually, even though it's every 2 yrs or 20,000 miles according to BMW.

bazz26 · 29-08-2018 10:43pm

Wailin wrote: »

Oil change, microfilter, air filter and fuel filter.

Service indicator only had rear brake pads (which had 6mm left so where fine) but since it was my first service since I got the car I had the oil and all filters done.

Oil will be done annually, even though it's every 2 yrs or 20,000 miles according to BMW.

Just looking at the quote they printed off for me there:

Oil service and microfilter - €414 or €331 with the 20% discount. The cost of the microfilter is €122, pure rip off. I'm going to price up the same from my local BMW indy and see if it's worth going with the main dealer just for goodwill beyond the warranty.

Wailin · 29-08-2018 10:59pm

It's the dilemma isn't it? Stay with BMW and get ripped off in the hope of a goodwill gesture if anything catastrophic happens...or go with a good indy who won't rip you off but BMW will fob you off when you come crawling to them.

I'll stick with them until the 2 yr warranty is up.

bazz26 · 29-08-2018 11:37pm

I didn't buy mine through a BMW dealer so don't have to stick through the warranty period. However if there is only around €100 in the difference I think I'll go with the main dealer just for the fsh and future goodwill. I'll go with the indy for consumables like brake pads, discs, etc either way.

challengemaster · 31-08-2018 2:13pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

So my first experience of BMW First is that I didn't get my 20% on parts

Read the entire post but can't figure out why you didn't get the discount on parts?

bazz26 · 31-08-2018 2:19pm

It's in the terms and conditions afaik. The 20% off parts only applies to parts the dealer fits. It doesn't apply to buying parts over the counter to get fitted elsewhere.

Seth Brundle · 31-08-2018 8:44pm

bazz26 wrote: »

It's in the terms and conditions afaik. The 20% off parts only applies to parts the dealer fits. It doesn't apply to buying parts over the counter to get fitted elsewhere.

I've read the T&Cs and quoted them here. Where exactly in them does it say that?

bazz26 · 31-08-2018 9:03pm

I'm nearly certain I seen in the T&C when I signed up a few months back but I cannot find it on their webpage now either.

aristotle25 · 21-09-2018 1:12pm

Got an offer of €9.90 per month with first month free for the usually priced €16.90 package so took it up. Its worth it at that price I think.

Given I change the oil twice a year and the 5c saving on diesel (on my 3 litre car so not as fuel efficient as say 520) and assume I can buy petrol for wifes car (?), and 1 set of wipers per year I think I will be save overall.

Wailin · 21-09-2018 2:15pm

Oil change twice a year? Why?

aristotle25 · 21-09-2018 2:35pm

Wailin wrote: »

Oil change twice a year? Why?

I change every 7-10k miles at most, from what I read and hear its worth doing versus the long intervals recommended by BMW.

bazz26 · 21-09-2018 2:42pm

You'll knock that habit in the head when you see the price a main dealer charges to replace it on a 3.0 litre engine.

SaintsYB · 21-09-2018 2:44pm

bazz26 wrote: »

You'll knock that habit in the head when you see the price a main dealer charges to replace it on a 3.0 litre engine.

I'm guessing he's been doing that already so he's not too worried about the cost.

aristotle25 · 21-09-2018 2:47pm

bazz26 wrote: »

You'll knock that habit in the head when you see the price a main dealer charges to replace it on a 3.0 litre engine.

€195 previously so €156 now with 20% off with this BMW First thing.

Was charged €200 from a BMW Indie in Dublin, and about same for one in Kildare.

bazz26 · 21-09-2018 2:47pm

SaintsYB wrote: »

I'm guessing he's been doing that already so he's not too worried about the cost.

According to the OP he recently changed car though and a 3.0 litre needs more oil than his previous 2.0 litre.

aristotle25 · 21-09-2018 2:49pm

bazz26 wrote: »

According to the OP he recently changed car though and a 3.0 litre needs more oil than his previous 2.0 litre.

Sorry no, didnt change car. Just making a comparison with a 520 in that I use quite a bit of diesel so 5c off per litre should nearly pay for €9.90 sub fee per month by itself.

bazz26 · 21-09-2018 2:51pm

aristotle25 wrote: »

Sorry no, didnt change car. Just making a comparison with a 520 in that I use quite a bit of diesel so 5c off per litre should nearly pay for €9.90 sub fee per month by itself.

Oh right, I thought you had changed cars. I have signed up to BMW First myself and it's good value.

BrookieD · 21-09-2018 3:00pm

aristotle25 wrote: »

Got an offer of €9.90 per month with first month free for the usually priced €16.90 package so took it up. Its worth it at that price I think.

Given I change the oil twice a year and the 5c saving on diesel (on my 3 litre car so not as fuel efficient as say 520) and assume I can buy petrol for wifes car (?), and 1 set of wipers per year I think I will be save overall.

How did you get the 9.90 price from 16.90?

aristotle25 · 21-09-2018 3:02pm

BrookieD wrote: »

How did you get the 9.90 price from 16.90?

Got an offer from BMW Ireland as a "BMW Club Member". I don't remember how I got in that club to be honest. Must have been added to it when I bought the car.

terrydel · 21-09-2018 3:23pm

You'd know the celtic tiger was back.

aristotle25 · 21-09-2018 3:24pm

terrydel wrote: »

You'd know the celtic tiger was back.

Why?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 21-09-2018 3:48pm

Free? How is it free if I am paying for it?

Get your car cleaned for free for 50 euro a month...

heroics · 21-09-2018 3:59pm

Odin Helpful Lizard wrote: »

Free? How is it free if I am paying for it?

Get your car cleaned for free for 50 euro a month...

Where did you get 50€ a month from. It’s 5€ a month for the basic

heroics · 21-09-2018 4:07pm

aristotle25 wrote: »

Got an offer from BMW Ireland as a "BMW Club Member". I don't remember how I got in that club to be honest. Must have been added to it when I bought the car.

I’m a member but didn’t get that offer.

aristotle25 · 21-09-2018 4:12pm

heroics wrote: »

I’m a member but didn’t get that offer.

Might be worth ringing up and asking about getting the same offer, if you wanted it.

terrydel · 21-09-2018 4:30pm

aristotle25 wrote: »

Why?

Because this kind of discretionary purchase wouldnt even be offered unless people were back spending on unnecessary ****e.

aristotle25 · 21-09-2018 4:40pm

terrydel wrote: »

Because this kind of discretionary purchase wouldnt even be offered unless people were back spending on unnecessary ****e.

Well based on my calculations I will have a net saving about €260 over a year.

Clareman · 21-09-2018 6:19pm

I'm a member of BMW First, my car is still under warranty so the whole service/parts thing doesn't apply to me but as a lazy git I find it great that I get my car washed inside and out, wipers changed, fluids topped up and a decent cup of coffee once a month for a relatively small sum. I already have a fuel card from work so the fuel card doesn't apply to me but I get ~50 litres every week so every month I'd be saving ~€10 with that, throw in the extra free car wash worth €12 I think it's a great service, personally I get the car "valetted" at the start of the month and get the external wash 2 weeks later.

The wipers are a great perk as well by the way, I'd be awful for replacing them but now I just mention that the blades are a bit streakey on booking in the car and they replace them, last time I paid for wipers they were GB£22.10 (~€27) and €3.95 for parcel motel.

Elessar · 22-09-2018 10:53am

What kind of wash is the mini valet? I see it's TOPAZ for exterior wash but those machines destroy your paintwork. Do they wash the exterior in the valet too - is it one of those machines or hand washed or what?

Clareman · 22-09-2018 11:19pm

Elessar wrote: »

What kind of wash is the mini valet? I see it's TOPAZ for exterior wash but those machines destroy your paintwork. Do they wash the exterior in the valet too - is it one of those machines or hand washed or what?

I'd much prefer an automatic car wash over some guy with a scraper and a messy sponge.

The mini valet is the same as you get with the service, power wash, bit of suds, wheels cleaned, inside vacuumed and polished. they usually do a good job on the leather seats, last time I had it done dye from my jeans discoloured the cream leather but they cleaned all that up. For me having 2 small kids in the car every day makes the cleaning a godsend.

vintagevrs · 23-09-2018 12:33am

Chat earlier about service cost. I got an oil, filter, vechicle check and new wipers last month for €130 through this. Was quoted €165 then mentioned the 20% discount. That’s also on a 3.0d. Girl said there’s no difference in service cost as I thought there would be.

ted1 · 23-09-2018 12:40am

aristotle25 wrote: »

I change every 7-10k miles at most, from what I read and hear its worth doing versus the long intervals recommended by BMW.

30k is a long interval , 15 is a regular, 7 is a pi55 take.

bazz26 · 23-09-2018 1:04pm

vintagevrs wrote: »

Chat earlier about service cost. I got an oil, filter, vechicle check and new wipers last month for €130 through this. Was quoted €165 then mentioned the 20% discount. That’s also on a 3.0d. Girl said there’s no difference in service cost as I thought there would be.

I have a quote here from my local dealer on my 5er with the same engine and they want €414 for an oil service + microfilter. They are charging €130 for the microfilter alone and the total price excludes the 20% discount. Even on BMWservice.ie a basic oil service for my car is €259 excluding the 20% discount so you got a good deal there or they made a mistake as I cannot imagine there being any extra involved in this between a 3er and 5er with the same engine.

vintagevrs · 23-09-2018 1:58pm

Yeah I agree. I got the price down then mentioned the discount. No microfilter or air filter in that price. Did those myself. Very straightforward, esp the air filter in those.

Bored.1e · 19-10-2018 11:58am

Anyone else having problems with the free wash? I had two barcodes that I didn't use. But when I went to avail of the carwash the person at the till said it was used. Tried other Circle K still the same.

Lord Nikon · 19-10-2018 1:41pm

vintagevrs wrote: »

Chat earlier about service cost. I got an oil, filter, vechicle check and new wipers last month for €130 through this. Was quoted €165 then mentioned the 20% discount. That’s also on a 3.0d. Girl said there’s no difference in service cost as I thought there would be.

What dealer was this? How did it cost only €130?
My 530 is due a service, and I like the lower price

vintagevrs · 19-10-2018 1:53pm

Sligo. I asked for them not to change the air and cabin filter, so just oil and oil filter plus car check. Think that was 165. Then 20% off that when I mention BMW first.

Stallingrad · 31-10-2018 3:18pm

Three months free - Be quick!

"To help celebrate the autumnal festivities, we’re offering our customers a special 3 month free trial of the BMW FIRST subscription.
Just enter the coupon code “HALLOWEEN2018” at checkout. Subscribe below to get yours - offer ends today Halloween October 31st"

https://www.bmw-first.ie

BrookieD · 31-10-2018 3:58pm

Stallingrad wrote: »

Three months free - Be quick!

"To help celebrate the autumnal festivities, we’re offering our customers a special 3 month free trial of the BMW FIRST subscription.
Just enter the coupon code “HALLOWEEN2018” at checkout. Subscribe below to get yours - offer ends today Halloween October 31st"

https://www.bmw-first.ie

Thanks a million - been thinking on this for a while as got a 12d 520 a few months back and that will do nicely

"BMW First"

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