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Do you keep a weapon by your bed?

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  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Could get a small fridge for bedroom, portable type like in camper vans.

    Milk goes in fridge.

    Electric kettle with just enough water and maybe a jug of water beside it for one's morning cuppa, nightly cup of cocoa etc; or even some herbal tea or lemsip - Wouldn't even need a fridge then as no milk requirement. Valid reasons there :)

    Have bedroom door locked - might buy enough time to boil 1/2 litre or so of water and one or two mugs to hand.

    Can source baseball bats after....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I've a baseball bat under the bed too - one that I brought home from the States nearly 30 years ago.

    Only time I've ever picked it up in "intruder alert" circumstances was a few years ago when my wife woke me in the middle of the night to say she was sure she'd heard noises downstairs. As I got to the top of the stairs, clad only in my boxer shorts, I remembered hearing somewhere that it's a good idea to confront an intruder in the nip, because then you'll introduce a real element of surprise to proceedings. Also, they're less likely to attack you, out of fear they might grab a handful of something.........let's say "undesirable".

    So, I whipped off the shorts and proceeded downstairs as nature intended. Didn't find anybody or anything there. Was almost disappointed, as on one level, would have liked to have seen the reaction......

    Hahaha, brilliant.

    Same though, on a serious note. Steel baseball bat I have from the States from many years back, perched in the bedroom. I've picked it up once or twice for a late night inspection of the the abode. I would have no hesitation in smashing some bastard if they dared breaking in.

    We were broken into twice at family home, once when we were there. Vividly remember being woken many years ago by my Dad thundering down the hallway giving a roar from deep inside him that scared the living **** out of me, and also the little cnuts that broke in. He chased them a few hundred meters down the road with the hurl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Could get a small fridge for bedroom, portable type like in camper vans.

    Milk goes in fridge.

    Electric kettle with just enough water and maybe a jug of water beside it for one's morning cuppa, nightly cup of cocoa etc; or even some herbal tea or lemsip - Wouldn't even need a fridge then as no milk requirement. Valid reasons there :)

    Have bedroom door locked - might buy enough time to boil 1/2 litre or so of water and one or two mugs to hand.

    Can source baseball bats after....

    Can't remember if it was an actual case or some movie I saw about people waking up with someone standing over them with a boiling kettle of water. Always give me the shivers. Can you imagine waking up in the middle of the night hearing a kettle being boiled downstairs....When you're the only person in the house...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    quokula wrote: »
    Is this a thread to show your hard man credentials or are that many people really that paranoid?

    I've a lock on my door and I can call the gardai if needed. In 36 years I've never needed to. I'd imagine the stress of thinking you always need a weapon at hand would take more years off your life than the vanishingly unlikely attempt that somebody decides to break into your house and attack you for no reason.

    If they're just breaking in to steal stuff (which has also never happened), then like I said, I've a lock on my door, I've got insurance, and I can call the gardai afterwards.

    it's not as unlikely as you might like to believe. Also we had many family heirlooms stolen during one of our break ins, not stuff that can be replaced. It's also very disturbing to walk through your house seeing the devastation left in the wake of these scrotes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Sortof.

    It was a clarification. The courts had already ruled on the standard of defense, in DPP v Barnes. It is easy reading, and makes a lot of sense. The Oireachtas then put it into law for those who don't read court cases.

    https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5da044464653d077725a0b6f

    To answer the question, I've a SIG P2340 in 357SIG with hollow-points in a finger-print release lockbox by the bed. But I live in the US, where that sort of thing is normal.

    Ah yes, perfectly reasonable, particularly the hollow points. You really have taken to the US.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭slipperyox


    Judging by the answers on this thread...
    The number of baseball bats and golf clubs, out sell the number of baseballs and golf balls by 20:1


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Boss Of Bosses


    Louisville Slugger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭1hnr79jr65


    A maglight 6d and 2 large carabiners looped together with a paracord globe knot with steel ball bearing inside.

    Maglight is heavy and long enough to swing and do damage, plus blind your attacker, it is not "designed" as an offensive weapon making it a legal item to use in self defense.

    Same for the carabiners, use 2 large ones as they can fit your hands as improvised knuckle dusters, and the paracord globe knot will do damage too with ball bearing inside.

    To improvise something yourself, i also toyed with idea of a very small zip lock bag (about size of balled fist) filled as tightly with compacted sand while closed and stuffed into the end of a sock. Can be used as a cosh/blackjack and receiver will feel like they got a smack of a rock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭SAXA


    Only a 32 inch hurl.. only had to use it once in anger when I retired from hurling... Still at my bedside


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,597 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    XsApollo wrote: »
    I keep my weapon in my bed.

    That’s your gun, a weapon is for fighting, a gun is for fun


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,597 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    my elderly parents keep a few golf clubs in various rooms upstairs. sad really that they have to do that. sign of the times unfortunately, but who knows when/where scum will strike.

    Elderly parents with a golf club in a confined space does not make them any safer tbh

    They need a full on Home Alone Style home defense system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,597 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    SAXA wrote: »
    Only a 32 inch hurl.. only had to use it once in anger when I retired from hurling... Still at my bedside

    For playing hurling with?

    At night?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    An old 1/2 inch wavin pipe with used pop rivet nails beat into it. I'm not paying one red cent to bate the kernts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    I keep a special hammer beside the bed just in case of fire...it's designed to get through double glazing if needs be...that's what I'm lead to believe anyways ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Akrasia wrote: »
    For playing hurling with?

    At night?

    It's an emotional support hurl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,688 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    A bottle of warming lube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,532 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    A bottle of warming lube.

    Giving the burglar a warm, tingly feeling might help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,072 ✭✭✭OU812


    Anything long like a bat or golf club isn't going to be mush use in the confines of a house/hallway/landing scenario as you need swinging room to do any damage with it.

    A Garda once told me to get myself a decent mag light torch - 4 D Cells. Made of aluminium & weigh about two pounds with the batteries.

    The head is bulbous (ooh matron) & provides good grip when swinging according to him & the end is nicely rounded so it will split skin and also break bone.

    Hopefully never have to use it, but I sleep naked so the sight of my flabby pale body coming at them in the middle of the night swinging a torch like it was a lightsaber, should hopefully convince them to leave before having to fight.

    Also have a very large dog that has full roaming of the house, so there's that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,798 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Bat or golf club is grand unless the hallway but swinging from over your head down is the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭italodisco


    All this talk of mag lights ffs, unless you're well up for a fight they're absolutely useless and 95% of you will nearly wet yourselves if you hear someone on the stairs in the middle of the night!

    I had 2 junkies come in one night, me and the gf were in the attic room (single story attic converted). She woke me up and said she could hear whispering, I couldn't hear a thing.
    I got as far as the top of the stairs and fok me I was frozen when I heard them. Then the adrenalin kicked in and I crept down, picked up hammer left in the hall from work I'd been doing, ran into the kitchen and hit one of them a bit too hard in the head and other parts of the body, the other one legged it, gone like the wind.

    I spent the next 4 hours in a garda station. Gave statements, got released. The guy I hit had a broken cheek and eye socket and other injuries

    They tried to make out I hit him from behind which wasn't allowed haha. The thing that save me was saying that the other lad with him had a huge machete looking type knife in his hand and lifted it as soon as he saw me so I just swung like a mad man to protect myself.

    Be very very careful, it's easy to end up being the one at fault even though you're technically defending the home. Only for I was quick to lie I'd have gone to court.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    I've got the worst song ever recorded (groove is in the heart) ready to go on the stereo. A quick blast of that should send any burglar running from the house screaming.


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've got the worst song ever recorded (groove is in the heart) ready to go on the stereo. A quick blast of that should send any burglar running from the house screaming.

    Might have the opposite effect. Invader might be Dee-Lited to hear that choon :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    Might have the opposite effect. Invader might be Dee-Lited to hear that choon :pac:

    I might sing along and they will definitely start running then.


  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I might sing along and they will definitely start running then.

    The chorus :D With a sharp instrument in your hand, they'll soon know what time it is..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    Used to keep an 8mm blank firing hand gun beside the bed back when you could buy them here, pretty real looking thing and sounded 100% like a 9mm handgun when fired. The idea was when you let off the warning shot they’d think it was a real gun and flee. Never had to use it for that purpose thankfully and sold it a few years later to a mate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    it's not as unlikely as you might like to believe. Also we had many family heirlooms stolen during one of our break ins, not stuff that can be replaced. It's also very disturbing to walk through your house seeing the devastation left in the wake of these scrotes.

    This

    A neighbour was broken into twice in a year and eventually moved as his wife never felt safe in the house again


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Queasy Tadpole


    I do indeed, the wife thinks I'm mad but I have done it my entire life. A nice heavy hurl and a a baton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭danger mouse


    I keep an Sig Sauer P226 legion with three 16 round magazines of hollow tip bullets beside my bed. I wouldn't feel safe without it.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,457 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Ah yes, perfectly reasonable, particularly the hollow points. You really have taken to the US.

    Took a little while to adjust and research, but it makes sense around here, even if it doesn't in Ireland.

    Hollow-points are pricier, but they are both more effective and safer. Ball or FMJ tends to go through more interior walls around here, they're made of drywall (think plaster sandwiched by cardboard), not brick or wood.

    There's a reason most Western police forces around the world use JHP or similar purpose-designed expanding rounds (soft-tip, glaser, etc). Even if you hit the target, a 'normal' round could still go out the other side.

    That you deride the use of hollow-points (I interpret your post as having a satirical/sarcastic tone) indicates to me a lack of knowledge of the subject matter.
    I keep an Sig Sauer P226 legion with three 16 round magazines of hollow tip bullets beside my bed. I wouldn't feel safe without it.

    Always nice to find another SIG fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,452 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I knew a lady who had a baton type weapon in her bedside locker, was coated in rubber though rather than being metal or wood.
    Seemed a strange choice of material but she didn't seem comfortable talking about it when I brought it up so I'm not sure what the logic was.

    Not even sure why she has it as when I asked her did she ever have to use it, she told me to fcuk off.

    You should have told her to go fcuk herself.

    Does anyone else worry about the fact that the lad(s) know where you live? If you did some serious damage, they can come back for round 2 at any time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    OU812 wrote: »
    Anything long like a bat or golf club isn't going to be mush use in the confines of a house/hallway/landing scenario as you need swinging room to do any damage with it.

    A Garda once told me to get myself a decent mag light torch - 4 D Cells. Made of aluminium & weigh about two pounds with the batteries.

    The head is bulbous (ooh matron) & provides good grip when swinging according to him & the end is nicely rounded so it will split skin and also break bone.

    Hopefully never have to use it, but I sleep naked so the sight of my flabby pale body coming at them in the middle of the night swinging a torch like it was a lightsaber, should hopefully convince them to leave before having to fight.

    Also have a very large dog that has full roaming of the house, so there's that too.

    What is your dog called?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭guitarhappy


    1) For close up work - Lock in a Sock. Boston mob boss Whitey Bulger was killed in his cell in Federal prison last year by another prisoner with a padlock in a sock.

    Not sure what size, style, or color of sock is preferred...but it should swing nicely and the lock should probably be a stout one.

    2) For distance work, a can of Raid, 50-foot Bee & Wasp Spray. Stronger than home self defense sprays, easy to explain.

    3) LED headlamp with 1,000+ lumen strobe. Keeps both hands free, enhances your vision, and disables intruder's vision while implementing # 1 and 2.

    I keep a Zebralight 18650 hanging on the bed post, comes in handy for a lot of uses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,072 ✭✭✭OU812


    What is your dog called?

    Defor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    2) For distance work, a can of Raid, 50-foot Bee & Wasp Spray. Stronger than home self defense sprays, easy to explain.

    Sorry officer - I was just trying to get that pesky wasp with my spray when this lad happened to break in :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭ChippingSodbury


    ...

    2) For distance work, a can of Raid, 50-foot Bee & Wasp Spray. Stronger than home self defense sprays, easy to explain.
    ...
    /QUOTE]

    Honestly, your honour, the amount of 50-foot Bees & Wasps we get around here during the summer is desperate....:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭Mr Meanor


    Feck the guard dogs,
    I have a cat on night patrol with a history of mental illness
    angry-cat1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,798 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    ^^^ go get me a cornetto and nobody gets hurt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭vikings2012


    Thoughts on gas powered metal pellet guns?

    Intruder might think it’s the real deal.

    Magazine of 12 metal pellets can leave a fair sting, should it be necessary to use the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    You should have told her to go fcuk herself.

    Does anyone else worry about the fact that the lad(s) know where you live? If you did some serious damage, they can come back for round 2 at any time.


    Remove battery from phone (s). Dig large hole. Insert scumbag (s). Fill hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    Two dogs, both 14yo who will do anything for McVities Digestive biscuits.
    If an intruder has a packet of McVities Digestives I am f*****.
    The dogs would probably help the intruder bury me for more biscuits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Mr Meanor wrote: »
    Feck the guard dogs,
    I have a cat on night patrol with a history of mental illness
    angry-cat1.jpg

    Ah them cats are as likely to scrape its owners face off while they sleep as attack an intruder! Our one would anyhow haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    Thoughts on gas powered metal pellet guns?

    Intruder might think it’s the real deal.

    Magazine of 12 metal pellets can leave a fair sting, should it be necessary to use the same.

    Unless you can be guaranteed to hit them somewhere it will hurt and that’s harder than you’d think then you’d do more damage throwing it at them. My idea with the blank firing was more so to frighten them with the bang and “hope” they missed the fact that nothing came out the other end 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Unless you can be guaranteed to hit them somewhere it will hurt and that’s harder than you’d think then you’d do more damage throwing it at them. My idea with the blank firing was more so to frighten them with the bang and “hope” they missed the fact that nothing came out the other end ��


    I had a cousin who would fire a warning shotgun blast over the heads of trespassers. I don't think he was a good shot anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Wouldn't you think there would be a lot more burglars waking up in hospital with wounds from shotgun blasts , injuries from being bludgeoned over the head or more even reported missing judging from some of these posts.

    Anyhow, I occasionally work with ex prisoners one of whom was a prolific burglar hitting commercial properties particularly around the Cabra/Finglas area breaking into factories at night.
    He wouldn't break into private houses but did describe how a burglar he knew would break into houses through patio doors and then go straight to the hallway leaving a chair or phone table across the bottom of stairs never going upstairs so if the homeowners came downstairs he'd hear them move the furniture giving him time to escape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭micah537


    What happens if a GSD or Rottweiler etc, savagely attack or kill an intruder?


    Are they put to sleep? Can the intruder sue you? (if they survived)



    Known my luck our GSD would lie on its back looking for belly rubs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭SlowMotion321


    Sawn off pool cue is my weapon of choice as I can't have Christopher Walken!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    micah537 wrote: »
    What happens if a GSD or Rottweiler etc, savagely attack or kill an intruder?


    Are they put to sleep? Can the intruder sue you? (if they survived)



    Known my luck our GSD would lie on its back looking for belly rubs.

    A guard once told me "once the scumbag is laying on the path outside when we get there, he can't claim anything happened, and you can say he fell when running away"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Put a condom on the dildo before you bludgeon the bastard. Problem solved.

    The retribution doesn't feel as good that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Wouldn't you think there would be a lot more burglars waking up in hospital with wounds from shotgun blasts , injuries from being bludgeoned over the head or more even reported missing judging from some of these posts.

    Anyhow, I occasionally work with ex prisoners one of whom was a prolific burglar hitting commercial properties particularly around the Cabra/Finglas area breaking into factories at night.
    He wouldn't break into private houses but did describe how a burglar he knew would break into houses through patio doors and then go straight to the hallway leaving a chair or phone table across the bottom of stairs never going upstairs so if the homeowners came downstairs he'd hear them move the furniture giving him time to escape.


    Perhaps. Then again many disappear every year some aren't missed. See the case of the body in the freezer in Galway. Nobody knew he was missing until the place changed hands.


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